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[10:45:02] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[11:09:15] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3691.00 -> large size
[11:09:18] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[11:10:16] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3691.50 --> - 0.5
[11:16:50] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3693.00 -> large size
[11:17:06] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts oon the Short Squeeze
[11:17:50] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3693.50 --> + 0.5
[11:18:01] <wrbtrader> small WRB pt1
[11:18:44] <wrbtrader> too much contraction in the recent intervals...not enough merit in holding this longer beyond a small WRB
[11:19:32] <wrbtrader> Typically worth holding if there was more volatility in the Short Squeeze or growing volatility
[11:22:28] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3694.00 -> large size
[11:22:43] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry into the Short Squeeze
[11:23:53] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3693.00 --> - 1
[11:27:59] <Tigerman______> hi wrbtrader ... welcome
[11:28:41] <Tigerman______> junky action today I just did some experiment at open loss trade in test platform
[11:28:54] <Tigerman______> in contrast used small size in mES later
[11:29:27] <Tigerman______> simply I realized unless market behave good ... I no trade anymore
[11:29:45] <Tigerman______> good = more sync
[11:30:02] <Tigerman______> regardless I ll leave in minutes
[11:30:03] <wrbtrader> If the overall volatility continues to deteriot...I'm going to downsize a little and use the poor trading conditions to do some trading / testing in MES myself
[11:30:35] <Tigerman______> yep mES give condidence via small risk/size
[11:30:55] <wrbtrader> Should be useful because most of the clients I've been getting are traders of the Micro Emini Futures which is something I myself have not even traded just yet
[11:31:08] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader remember mS has low liquidity vs ES
[11:31:22] <wrbtrader> I won't trade size with MES
[11:31:40] <wrbtrader> to get around the illiquidity of the Micro emini futures
[11:32:14] <Tigerman______> also commissions impact more
[11:32:22] <wrbtrader> Yep
[11:33:13] <wrbtrader> I have no documentation nor verification of any trading in the MES futures to be in tune with what clients are actually trading
[11:33:54] <wrbtrader> A few weeks of such will give me some screenshots to post on the website
[11:34:27] <wrbtrader> Then I'll revert back to Emini ES futures for the pending spike in volatility for the month of January
[11:34:59] <wrbtrader> That's a plan for the moment but no guarantee I'll temporary switch to MES
[11:37:12] <wrbtrader> U.K. had a big celebration today...A 90 year old grandmother of 4 got the first vaccination shot @ 6:31am GMT
[11:38:00] <wrbtrader> Hospital staff at St. Thomas lined the hallways to cheer her after her vaccination
[11:38:37] <asuni> 91 years next week
[11:38:44] <wrbtrader> Yep
[11:39:05] <wrbtrader> Actually,..some media referring to her as the 1st worldwide
[11:39:34] <wrbtrader> Seems kind'uv strange when China and Russia have been saying they've been doing vaccinations for awhile now
[11:40:07] <Tigerman______> they mean in west world
[11:40:15] <wrbtrader> Ahhh...Ok
[11:40:56] <Tigerman______> btw lot of vaccines was already given out to China people
[11:41:17] <Tigerman______> also to chinese leaving abroad
[11:41:41] <Tigerman______> not sure how safe these vaccines
[11:41:51] <wrbtrader> Vaccinations will only create "herd immunity" if at the minimum about 70% of the population takes the vaccine...until then...must social distance, wash hands and wear a face mask
[11:42:13] <asuni> This wonderful 91 years old girl could have great impèact on markets. Let you imagine if she unfortunately will have side effects from vaccine..................
[11:42:42] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3694.00 -> large size
[11:42:47] <Tigerman______> btw all these US UK are so New... tested on just few people
[11:42:48] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[11:45:40] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3695.25 --> - 1.25
[11:47:23] <Tigerman______> wrbtrader your cover was a 10 contract 1 fill or was more small multiple size reported by your broker ?
[11:47:39] <wrbtrader> split
[11:47:42] <Tigerman______> these days I see more strange fill
[11:48:11] <wrbtrader> I rarely post the spits
[11:48:19] <wrbtrader> I use to in the past
[11:48:49] <wrbtrader> Sometimes what I will do is just say "strange fill"
[11:48:52] <Tigerman______> ah ok just 2 splits or more.. out of curiosity
[11:48:57] <wrbtrader> Usually I'm talking about split
[11:49:03] <wrbtrader> On the exits and the entry
[11:49:38] <Tigerman______> also depends broker route
[11:50:00] <wrbtrader> This trade 3 spits with some contracts @ 3695 and some at 3695.25
[11:51:26] <Tigerman______> ok thanks.. when past moves fast I experience worst fill
[11:51:47] <wrbtrader> Splits are too hard to post
[11:52:46] <wrbtrader> My script only does 1/4 trade posts at best
[11:52:49] <Tigerman______> sure... just post the trade with small delay it is a great thing... I can t most of the time
[11:53:36] <wrbtrader> Thus, if a split is 6+2+1+1 and a few contracts filled at a different price...
[11:53:40] <wrbtrader> silly to try to post that
[11:54:21] <wrbtrader> Be aware of this in which I showed the difference a few times in the past in my trade fill window...
[11:55:44] <Tigerman______> ok thanks
[11:55:54] <wrbtrader> I was show the exact same price for a 10 contract position at for example 4+1+1+1+2+1 and my other broker would show the same timestamps as 4+4+2
[11:56:40] <wrbtrader> all with the same timestamps of for example 10:05:06am
[11:57:33] <wrbtrader> If my two brokers do that...other brokers must be doing it too
[11:59:26] <wrbtrader> Years ago...rarely were there splits
[11:59:39] <wrbtrader> I think that changed around 2015
[12:00:27] <Tigerman______> maybe more Algos involved I dont know
[12:00:35] <wrbtrader> That tells me there's either more algo doing 1 contract multiple trades at the same price
[12:00:47] <wrbtrader> Yeah, I was thinking the same thing too
[12:01:06] <Tigerman______> liquidity also lower these days
[12:01:25] <wrbtrader> Only Algos can move trades that fast at the exact same price on 1 contract trades
[12:02:08] <Tigerman______> right now just 60 pz on bid and 40 on ask
[12:02:31] <wrbtrader> Read an article in a financial mag that Algo can do for example...20 to 100 contracts in a few ses at the exact same price with splits of 1 contract each fill
[12:02:35] <Tigerman______> time ago I remember 300/ 400pz was normal
[12:02:42] <Tigerman______> at first line
[12:03:34] <wrbtrader> Visually, I would say 5 - 20 contracts is the norm
[12:03:49] <wrbtrader> Not sure what the actual stats of the average print size
[12:18:02] <wrbtrader> sometimes I think we should be able to visually see when there's "liquidity problems"
[12:18:46] <wrbtrader> I think it happens when the intervals are very contracted while people are trying to move size as in move than 10 contracts
[12:19:27] <wrbtrader> We should be able to see it in the Times & Sales prints with a lot of small contracts moving at the same price with the same timestamps
[12:19:37] <wrbtrader> regardless if they are printing slow or fast
[12:19:58] <wrbtrader> Like right now
[12:21:48] <Tigerman______> I also use different window set to show small size and another show bigger size print
[12:22:20] <wrbtrader> You talking about the DOM or Times & Sales ???
[12:22:33] <Tigerman______> T & S
[12:22:38] <wrbtrader> Ok
[12:22:55] <Tigerman______> lg mES 3697 sym platform
[12:23:32] <Tigerman______> exit all @ 3697.25 +.25 snapback
[12:54:00] <wrbtrader> VIX a steady decline...creeper movement
[12:59:48] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3700.25 -> large size
[12:59:55] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts poor entry
[13:00:14] <wrbtrader> too much analysis since the 3701.75 level
[13:03:23] <wrbtrader> creepy tough price action
[13:03:36] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3701.00 --> - 0.75
[13:03:57] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3701.25 -> large size
[13:04:05] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[13:04:11] <wrbtrader> chasing Emini NQ
[13:06:36] <wrbtrader> tiny Long Upper Shadow interval
[13:06:54] <wrbtrader> maybe not enough to drag this up higher
[13:13:25] <wrbtrader> :(
[13:14:46] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3701.75 --> + 0.5
[13:15:37] <Tigerman______> ok take care all see next time
[13:16:01] <wrbtrader> Seems like the more vaccination news there are...the stranger this price action has become
[13:55:11] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3701.00 -> large size
[13:55:22] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[13:55:55] <wrbtrader> need to try to hold this without trigger happy fingers
[14:01:41] <wrbtrader> small WRB pt1 reached
[14:03:00] <wrbtrader> President-elect Biden on TV :(
[14:03:26] <wrbtrader> I hate when Presidents go on TV during market hours...price action becomes more weird
[14:13:31] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3701.50 --> - 0.5
[14:13:49] <wrbtrader> shaken out...lost patience
[14:15:12] <wrbtrader> Hopefully won't regret not taking the small pt1 won't bite me at the end of the trading day
[14:21:30] <wrbtrader> spread increased in the move back up
[14:21:45] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3703.75 -> large size
[14:21:53] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[14:22:14] <wrbtrader> not a good way to chase Emini NQ
[14:24:13] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3704.75 --> + 1
[14:24:29] <wrbtrader> not a WRB pt1
[14:24:35] <wrbtrader> not an early exit
[14:24:40] <wrbtrader> random exit
[14:24:51] <wrbtrader> I do not have a lot of patience today
[14:27:01] <wrbtrader> VIX broke below a S area
[14:28:33] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3705.75 -> large size
[14:28:51] <wrbtrader> trying to move up another Long Upper Shadow interval
[14:33:49] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3705.75 --> 0
[15:04:59] <wrbtrader> looking for a snapback UP in this area
[15:05:41] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3702.50 -> large size
[15:05:51] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts intuition
[15:07:04] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3701.75 --> - 0.75
[15:07:09] <wrbtrader> punks
[15:09:00] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3702.25 -> large size
[15:09:03] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[15:11:53] <wrbtrader> geeesh
[15:12:32] <wrbtrader> scary ES today
[15:12:51] <wrbtrader> holding on to this one by my finger tips
[15:17:51] <wrbtrader> No snapback Up :(
[15:19:00] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3700.75 --> - 1.5
[15:20:50] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3701.75 -> large size
[15:21:05] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts re-entry
[15:24:41] <wrbtrader> NQ testing its S area
[15:25:46] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3701.00 --> - 0.75
[15:26:12] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 3701.00 -> large size
[15:26:25] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[15:26:38] <wrbtrader> NQ now breakout below the S area
[15:27:09] <wrbtrader> now back above it :(
[15:27:31] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 3702.50 --> - 1.5
[15:27:41] <wrbtrader> wicked
[15:28:10] <wrbtrader> ES back to the R area
[15:29:24] <wrbtrader> Need a runner (big mover) to prevent today from being resulting as a losing trading day
[15:29:48] <wrbtrader> not likely in this tight trading range that's still forming
[15:30:25] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 3702.75 -> large size
[15:30:45] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[15:35:13] <wrbtrader> geeesh
[15:35:24] <wrbtrader> another snapback down
[15:36:15] <wrbtrader> back down to the S area
[15:36:48] <wrbtrader> 3.75 tight trading range
[15:40:38] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 3700.50 --> - 2.25
[15:41:07] <wrbtrader> can't breakout of this range
[15:41:19] <wrbtrader> looks like its going to stay like this until the close
[15:41:38] <wrbtrader> I'm calling it quits here on the trade losses resulting in a losing trading day...
[15:41:45] <wrbtrader> Take care and see all tomorrow
Session Close

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