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 Post subject: December 11th Monday - Futures, Forex, Stocks and ETF
 Post Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:17 pm 
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##TheStrategyLab primary purpose is for you to post your WRB Analysis, post your price action analysis, ask real-time questions about WRB Analysis or post your real-time trades (simulator or real money) in a timestamp environment after you've received confirmation from your broker trade execution platform. Simply, the free chat room is a trade journal of your trading day (thoughts and trades). In fact, if you think the only feedback you need is your broker statements and you decide to not discuss WRB Analysis nor post any real-time information about how you're viewing the markets nor post real-time trades...the free chat room will be a waste of your time and you will increase the odds of failing at trading.

The free chat room is located on the Freenode IRC network along with being a serious professional trading chat room for traders that want to talk about your use of WRB Analysis (e.g. Contracting Volatility, WRBs, WRB Hidden GAPs, WRB Zone, WRB/WRB Hidden GAP profit targets, Key Market Events, Reaction Highs/Lows, Expanding Volatility, WRB Zone, R area of WRB Zone, S area of WRB Zone) merged with your trade methods to improve the performance of their trade methods regardless if you're a position trader, swing trader, day trader, trend trader or range trader. Therefore, you're welcome to use the free chat room to ask questions about WRB Analysis, post your real-time price action trading analysis involving WRB Analysis merged with your own trade methods, post real-time trades or talk about general market issues impacting today's price action involving stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. In addition, we welcome all traders (beginners, experience, part-time, full-time) that are merging WRB Analysis with their trade methods or using WRB Analysis to help develop a better understanding of the price action (market context) they're trading.

##TheStrategyLab Chat Room Review - This is not a signal calling trading room. This is not a live trading room...we have no interest in trading rooms where a head trader tells other traders when to buy and sell because the business model for such isn't suitable for helping traders to succeed as independent traders. This chat room is free and many years ago it was started by users of WRB Analysis as a trade journal for members to document their own trades. Our job is to moderate (keep the peace between members) the chat room and to answer any questions involving WRB Analysis. Once again, the purpose of the free chat room is for you to use as a trade journal of your WRB Analysis or real-time trades with time stamp archive....giving you a better understanding of your broker statements from one trade to the next trade when you review your thoughts and how you interacted with the markets on any given trading day in the past. Therefore, if you use the chat room...its highly recommended you post messages that reflect what you see in the price action on your monitors so that the chat room becomes your diary to correlate with your broker statements. Thus, the usefulness of ##TheStrategyLab chat room is determined via your participation in the chat room.

Yet, you're not require to use the free chat room as a trade journal to get help with your trading. Instead, as recommended by some users of WRB Analysis, you can use professional trade journal services such as tradebench.com, edgewonk.com, tradervue.com, tradingdiarypro.com, stocktickr.com, journalsqrd.com, tradingdiary.pro, mxprofit.com or trademetria.com for quantitative statistical analysis of their trading in combo with our chat room or your private thread to discuss with us the statistical analysis of your trading so that we can help you to improve your use of WRB Analysis. You can then request a private thread for you to share the professional trade journal analysis of your trading with us for us to review. Therefore, you have many choices. You can use our chat room (you maintain your own statistics) as a trade journal or you can use professional trade journal services to do the work for you.

Also, do not attempt to use our chat room as a signal calling trade room via trying to mimic (copy) trades posted by members. If you do such, you will be KICKED from the chat room without warning. In fact, most of the negative commentary about TheStrategyLab website is by traders after we've removed them from the free chat room, removed them from the forum or removed them from the website for violating our terms of use policy.

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The chat room is only for traders learning or applying concepts of WRB Analysis. In addition, traders that use ##TheStrategyLab are required to post either one WRB Analysis price action commentary involving any key concept from the free study guide, one real-time trade or one general trading related commentary per day they log-in to the chat room. Yet, if the trader decides to post real-time trades (simulator or real-money)...the trades must be clear (not ambiguous) entry price/exit price and position size. Traders that consistently log-in and not post any price action commentary involving WRB Analysis or post ambiguous trades will be KICKED (removed) from the chat room.

With that said, thanks for reviewing (reading) the trades, price action analysis or market commentaries that's below and we highly recommend you make reading of the logs a part of your trading routine because you will sometimes find useful market context information that's critical to understanding price action trading. To qualify for access to our free ##TheStrategyLab chat room that's located on the Freenode IRC network...please follow the instructions at the TSL Support Forum @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewforum.php?f=164

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##TheStrategyLab Archive Chat Logs

Session Start: Mon Dec 11 09:30:53 2017
Session Ident: ##TheStrategyLab
[09:30:53] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[09:30:53] * Topic is 'Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... 119&t=718'
[09:30:53] * Set by wrbtrader on Fri Dec 26 09:39:03 2014
[09:30:54] -ChanServ- [##TheStrategyLab] Chat room for day traders, swing traders, position traders using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve the performance of their trade signal strategies. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[09:30:54] ##TheStrategyLab url is http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/
[09:32:08] <werner1> Long Emini NQ @ 6352.00
[09:32:31] <werner1> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 6360.00 --> + 8
[09:32:46] <werner1> gm all
[09:37:41] <wrbtrader> volatility low out of the gate :(
[09:38:28] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:44:28] <werner1> es try to stay above fridays hod
[09:51:13] <Trendtrader> long es 2653.25 sim
[09:55:23] <Trendtrader> exit 2/3 es 2654.25 +1 sim
[09:59:39] <wrbtrader> WTF ?
[09:59:57] <wrbtrader> The past three intervals on my charts just changed
[10:00:32] <werner1> :(
[10:05:28] <Trendtrader> exit remainder es 2655.25 +2 sim
[10:06:02] <Trendtrader> wrb how do you mean changed? bars repainted differently?
[10:09:43] <wrbtrader> Yes, repainted differently
[10:10:24] <wrbtrader> Pretend you're using the 3min chart
[10:11:18] <wrbtrader> The interval 15mins ago has a High @ 2657 and Close @ 2653.50
[10:11:39] <wrbtrader> On the 3min chart...that interval is complete
[10:12:37] <wrbtrader> Yet a minute later in the current active interval on the 3min chart...the prior intervals changed (updated)
[10:13:15] <wrbtrader> That high @ 2657 changed to 2655.50
[10:13:18] <wrbtrader> :(
[10:13:31] <wrbtrader> I've seen this happen before years ago
[10:14:11] <wrbtrader> I called the tech department and they said there was "incorrect" or "corrupt data" and they corrected it
[10:14:45] <wrbtrader> Poor data integrity
[10:16:06] <wrbtrader> Today I had Long Shadow intervals for several intervals about 15 minutes ago on the 3min chart and it updated (changed)
[10:16:16] <wrbtrader> Those Long Shadow intervals are now gone
[10:17:10] <wrbtrader> As you know I've been primarily using a new strategy for 2017 to adapt to the changed market conditions...based upon Long Shadow intervals
[10:17:46] <wrbtrader> I could have made 2 bad trades based upon bad data
[10:18:51] <wrbtrader> Had I suffer big losses...I'm sure they would tell me its not their fault even if I had recorded the data change
[10:20:13] <wrbtrader> FutureSource use to do that years ago when I used them...it was the main reason why I stopped using them and it was the main reason why I closed down the FutureSource chat room that I started / moderated on IRC
[10:23:49] <wrbtrader> Anyways, no trades so far...too many strange looking data bars
[10:27:55] <Trendtrader> that's messed up. (btw on the 3min chart I have a high of the day at 10:12 at 2657.75, 2017-12 contract)
[10:29:49] <werner1> me too
[10:31:54] <wrbtrader> Trendterader...can you post that chart in your private thread so that I can compare it with mine own chart...
[10:32:21] <wrbtrader> I most likely will send both charts to my account rep at the data vendor
[10:32:41] <wrbtrader> I greatly appreciate it
[10:32:43] <Trendtrader> ok. give me a sec...
[10:56:45] <Trendtrader> wrb, uploaded to my private vtr thread. let me know if you can see it and it suits your purpose. I can send others if required.
[11:12:20] <wrbtrader> Ok thanks...I haven't gotten an email alert about new messages posted in your private thread.
[11:12:59] <wrbtrader> I've installed some new security codes this weakend involving VPNs and rented IP addresses
[11:13:12] <wrbtrader> Hopefully I didn't mess anything up
[11:15:14] <wrbtrader> Got it...thanks and your upload was valid from a good IP address :)
[11:16:37] <wrbtrader> You're using Ninjatrader
[11:16:42] <Trendtrader> cool. If you need anything else just let me know.
[11:17:00] <Trendtrader> I am, yes. Been using it for several years now.
[11:17:17] <wrbtrader> Does Ninjatrader has a setting that ONLY lets you look at the regular session chart instead of the all session chart ???
[11:18:16] <Trendtrader> It does. I can load whatever you need.
[11:18:54] <Trendtrader> Do you want 09:30-16:15 only?
[11:19:48] <wrbtrader> Yes
[11:20:09] <Trendtrader> ok. hang on...
[11:20:14] <wrbtrader> By the way, your charts are different from mine by several points
[11:20:54] <wrbtrader> If I remove the data point axis on the right...it looks almost the same
[11:21:33] * Retrieving ##TheStrategyLab modes...
[11:21:45] <Trendtrader> how many days do you want on the chart?
[11:22:05] <wrbtrader> For example, that high interval you mention earlier is about 2 points LESS in comparison to my high for the same interval
[11:22:13] <wrbtrader> very weird
[11:22:54] <wrbtrader> I'm going to investigate this for the remainder of the day with eSignal, TOS and TradeStation
[11:23:43] <Trendtrader> so yours is 2659.75?
[11:23:50] <Trendtrader> <Trendtrader> how many days do you want on the chart?
[11:24:31] <wrbtrader> Just 2 days of intraday regular session charts 3min
[11:24:40] <Trendtrader> ok
[11:26:01] <wrbtrader> That 1012am interval you show on your charts as 2657.75
[11:26:39] <wrbtrader> The same interval for me shows 2660.50
[11:27:14] <wrbtrader> in reference to comparing our high for that interval
[11:27:45] <wrbtrader> remove the data axis on the right...our charts look almost the same
[11:28:39] <wrbtrader> Our WRBs and WRB Hidden GAP intervals are also the same
[11:29:07] <wrbtrader> Maybe I'm having some vision crisis :)
[11:30:15] <wrbtrader> Here's a quick chart I just grab for you too look at in comparison to your chart.
[11:30:28] <wrbtrader> Its from eSignal but delay by 10 minutes @
[11:30:30] <wrbtrader> http://quotes.esignal.com/esignalprod// ... names=true
[11:30:49] <wrbtrader> Its the 3min chart
[11:31:13] <wrbtrader> maybe I'm looking at the wrong interval ?
[11:31:42] <Trendtrader> I've just sent a few more. Take a look and tell me if you need any others. btw, by default NT prints the bars at the close of the time period. i.e. the first bar of the day on a 3min chart is at 09:33.
[11:31:57] <wrbtrader> Ok
[11:32:39] <wrbtrader> Thanks
[11:34:00] <Trendtrader> hmmm... that is odd. Is that esignal chart the 2017-12 ES contract or is it a continuous contract with some sort of adjustment?
[11:35:02] <Trendtrader> Although why the difference?
[11:35:26] <wrbtrader> Ahhh
[11:35:34] <wrbtrader> Its continous
[11:36:05] <wrbtrader> We're on different contracts :)
[11:37:52] <Trendtrader> I never usually look at continuous contracts, but why would the front month be different? Shouldn't those be back-adjusted?
[11:39:14] <wrbtrader> You're on the Z7 contract whereas I'm now on H8 contract
[11:39:29] <wrbtrader> Mystery solved...I thought I was seeing things...going crazy
[11:39:32] <wrbtrader> :)
[11:40:49] <wrbtrader> That's why it didn't line up with my broker data...by default they go to the H8 contract and I needed to manually go back to the Z7 contract
[11:41:01] <Trendtrader> ah. now that makes sense!
[11:41:41] <wrbtrader> I rarely use my broker charts...I use the independent 3rd party charts like eSignal
[11:42:10] <wrbtrader> I was too fixated on eSignal and your data...I forgot to look at my broker data
[11:42:32] <wrbtrader> Had I done that...I would have realized the difference was because of the contract difference :)
[11:42:36] <wrbtrader> Oooops
[11:43:02] <Trendtrader> I have to head out. If you need anything else let me know and I can do it remotely. (or if not urgent I can do it this evening)
[11:43:31] <Trendtrader> Glad that you've got it figured out. :)
[11:43:42] <wrbtrader> Thanks for the help and I apologize for the distraction from your trading
[11:44:22] <Trendtrader> no worries. I'll be simming till next year anyway.
[11:49:46] <wrbtrader> I might be testing a new trade execution platform in January
[11:50:00] <wrbtrader> If so...it'll be simulator trading only.
[11:50:27] <wrbtrader> If I do...my daily broker PnL statements will show CQG instead of Xtrader
[14:49:29] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 6388.00
[14:54:12] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 6386.50 --> + 1.5
[15:20:59] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 6385.25
[15:24:48] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 6385.50 --> - 0.25
[15:25:11] <werner1> :( ..greedy is not for me
[15:26:57] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 6385.00
[15:27:03] <werner1> re short
[15:30:46] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 6386.75 --> - 1.75
[15:30:59] <Tigerman______> good afternoon all
[15:31:27] <werner1> hi tigerman
[15:31:39] <Tigerman______> Volatility decreasing in scary mode
[15:31:41] <Tigerman______> hi werner
[15:32:14] <Tigerman______> issue is.. when Big folks unwind that
[15:32:26] <Tigerman______> I mean short positions in vola
[15:33:39] <werner1> indd :(
[15:34:10] <Tigerman______> that will be good for traders :)
[15:34:32] <Tigerman______> just a nightmare for investors and market stability
[15:35:48] <Tigerman______> btw talk of the town is Bitcoin these days
[15:36:42] <werner1> pfff all over the place
[15:42:10] <wrbtrader> Just got back from an appointment with my tax accountant...setting up quarterly tax payments
[15:42:59] <Tigerman______> hi wrbtrader
[15:45:24] <wrbtrader> No trades for me today...big mistake this morning on my part about my data and I forgot about my appointment this afternoon with my tax account.
[15:45:50] <wrbtrader> Yeah, Bitcoin talks is the rave of the town
[15:46:19] <wrbtrader> I've been seeing it discussed here in Quebec on the financial TV networks for the first time last month.
[15:46:32] <Tigerman______> yeah seems everybody wants get in before too late
[15:46:34] <wrbtrader> A lot more forum discussions too
[15:47:00] <Tigerman______> btw yesterday Cboe lunched derivates on bitcoin
[15:47:11] <Tigerman______> system crashed :)
[15:47:19] <wrbtrader> Yes
[15:47:42] <Tigerman______> Cme will lunch its on dec 18 this year
[15:48:28] <Tigerman______> australian wants use blockchain for its financial market
[15:48:36] <wrbtrader> How long can the government keep saying its not a currency and keeps recommending people should "stay away" while Wall Street is slowly getting involved in Bitcoin
[15:49:36] <Tigerman______> someone said it is not a currency nor a comodity ... it is a gambler heaven :9
[15:49:54] <wrbtrader> By the time the U.S. government recognizes it as a viable currency...Bitcoin will be 21k.
[15:50:04] <wrbtrader> or more
[15:51:06] <Tigerman______> yeah
[15:51:28] <Tigerman______> oh wrbtrader Rty down on his own !!!
[15:51:56] <wrbtrader> Yet, just an opinion...Bitcoin will be in trouble when they create "futures Bitcoin".
[15:52:14] <wrbtrader> People will then be able to Short it without crashing it
[15:53:39] <wrbtrader> If that happens...I bet the government & financial institutions like JP Morgan will be "secretly" Shorting Bitcoin because they are openly against it.
[15:53:57] <wrbtrader> I think my Android tablet just broke :(
[15:54:14] <wrbtrader> It's been turning On & Off all by itself
[15:54:31] <Tigerman______> yeah it is that "short part" missing till now
[15:54:33] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Dec 11 15:54:33 2017

Session Start: Mon Dec 11 15:54:33 2017
Session Ident: ##TheStrategyLab
[15:54:39] * Attempting to rejoin channel ##TheStrategyLab
[15:54:45] * Rejoined channel ##TheStrategyLab
[15:54:45] * Topic is 'Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... 119&t=718'
[15:54:45] * Set by wrbtrader on Fri Dec 26 09:39:03 2014
[15:54:46] -ChanServ- [##TheStrategyLab] Chat room for day traders, swing traders, position traders using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve the performance of their trade signal strategies. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[15:54:46] ##TheStrategyLab url is http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/
[15:55:00] <wrbtrader_away> Really a strange day for me and I just got disconnected
[15:55:48] <wrbtrader_away> Now I'm glad I didn't trade today...my head would not have been in the game
[15:56:33] <Tigerman______> yeah in that case better stay aside
[15:57:15] <Tigerman______> molt people still not realize trading is like compete in sport more then a worl 9-17
[15:57:25] <Tigerman______> work
[16:04:06] <Tigerman______> take care all see next time
[16:47:27] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Dec 11 16:47:27 2017

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##TheStrategyLab (located on the Freenode IRC network) is free and is a serious professional trading chat room involving WRB Analysis in which any trader (position trading, swing trading, day trading) can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries about stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the free chat room nor do you need to be a price action trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not. Yet, the only requirement is that you want to learn WRB Analysis.

Therefore, we welcome all traders that want to learn about WRB Analysis regardless if they are beginners or experience traders in price action trading.

The purpose of ##TheStrategyLab is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

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The free chat room is not a signal calling trading room and we do not believe in the business model of a head trader telling other traders when to buy and sell. Its a flawed approach to trading and its a flawed substitution for mentoring in which a trader can not learn how to be a successful independent trader.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from stocks, futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image CME Emini RTY Futures (formerly ICE TF)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies Gbp/Usd, Eur/Usd, Eur/Yen, Usd/Cad, Xau/Usd and Xag/Usd

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that ##TheStrategyLab is a serious professional price action trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, racist, harassment, lies, hackers, pikers, trolls that's a distraction to members of our chat room, our forum or our website. Yet, the original logs are always maintain for security reasons and legal reasons if needed.

Disclaimer: Today's trading performance is not an indication of my future performance and not an indication of the future performance for any trader that decides to learn/apply WRB Analysis. The risk of loss can be substantial. Therefore, you must carefully consider if trading is suitable for you within the context of your financial condition. TheStrategyLab.com is an education and research site. The resources on this site are provided for informational purposes only and should not be used to replace professional educational and professional research because we are retail traders only. TheStrategyLab.com does not accept liability for your use of the website and its resources.

We make no guarantees of success and your level of success is dependent upon other factors including your skill as a trader, knowledge, financial condition, market conditions and other factors. Trading is stressful and you should always consult a doctor in all matters relating to physical and mental health of you and your family because trading can impact beyond your financial condition regardless if you're a profitable or losing trader. Also, you can read our full disclaimer statement @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/Disclaimer.htm

Review of TheStrategyLab @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=3167

TheStrategyLab Review @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/thestrategylab-reviews.htm

Note: chat logs saved (timestamp) from Québec, Canada in eastern daylight time

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Trader and Founder of WRB Analysis (wide range body/wide range bar analysis)
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