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 Post subject: July 6th Thursday - Futures, Forex, Stocks and ETF
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Session Start: Thu Jul 06 09:32:02 2017
Session Ident: ##TheStrategyLab
[09:32:02] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
[09:32:02] * Topic is 'Chat room for traders that are using concepts from WRB Analysis to help improve their entry signals, initial stop/loss management, profitable trail stops or profit targets. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... 119&t=718'
[09:32:02] * Set by wrbtrader on Fri Dec 26 09:39:03 2014
[09:32:04] ##TheStrategyLab url is http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum/
[09:32:15] <wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:35:42] <ofthomas> morning
[09:35:57] <wrbtrader> Hopefully the volatility shows up again today soon after the Opening regular session bell
[09:43:50] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2417.50 -> large size
[09:44:19] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts (scaled into)
[09:45:06] <wrbtrader> Yet, it has already reached the S area of the WRB Zone and now has become choppy
[09:46:49] <wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini ES Short @ 2415.50 --> + 2
[09:48:07] <wrbtrader> Long lower shadow interval developed on the 1min chart
[09:48:16] <wrbtrader> trade via the 3min and 5min chart
[09:49:03] <wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini ES Short @ 2414.50 --> + 3
[09:51:10] <ofthomas> do you mean identify the are with 5 but enter the trade with 3?
[09:51:18] <ofthomas> ,3
[09:51:20] <wrbtrader> will lower position size when volatility begins to decline as in more consistent contracting volatility intervals
[09:52:26] <wrbtrader> Yeah, I identify a prior trade signal area that I missed and used it as a WRB Zone. Missed trade signal was on the 5min chart
[09:53:16] <wrbtrader> R area of the range of that missed trade signal @ 2418.25
[09:53:45] <wrbtrader> S area @ 2416.25
[09:53:49] <werner1> gm all
[09:53:59] <wrbtrader> a 2 point range for that WRB Zone
[09:59:08] <wrbtrader> KME @ 1000am and 1100am est
[10:01:58] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2415.00 -> small size
[10:02:12] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:04:26] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:04:35] <ofthomas> you used the 3m this time for that entry right?
[10:04:36] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 5593.50
[10:04:54] <wrbtrader> 1min chart for WRB Zone
[10:05:37] <ofthomas> ok, I see it..
[10:05:40] <wrbtrader> WRB pt2 reached
[10:05:43] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 5587.75 --> + 5.75
[10:06:03] <wrbtrader> wasn't able to grab it
[10:06:14] <wrbtrader> hoping for a 2nd chance at it
[10:06:49] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2413.25 --> + 1.75
[10:07:11] <wrbtrader> WRB pt2 was at 2412.25
[10:07:33] <wrbtrader> trail stop picked off immediately after I adjusted it
[10:07:46] <wrbtrader> Now the price action drops further after the stop out :(
[10:09:25] <wrbtrader> Had I waited about 15 seconds more before I adjusted that trail stop...I would have caught that WRB pt2 @ 2412.25
[10:09:43] <wrbtrader> Yet, KMEs price reaction still make me nervous
[10:10:49] <wrbtrader> In contrast, prior to my illness last year...KMEs price action didn't cause any fear in me. I didn't even adjust my position size during KMEs
[10:12:05] <wrbtrader> That's a perfect trade example of how my recent illness has impacted the "trader psychology" of my trading
[10:12:23] <wrbtrader> That mental aspect
[10:16:25] <wrbtrader> I don't know about the U.S. but the Sears bankruptcy story is still big news here in Canada...its constantly on TV
[10:16:48] <wrbtrader> Last time I saw that was constant TV news stories about "Target"
[10:17:43] <ofthomas> across the board all retailers are being impacted pretty much.. the Amazon effect basically.
[10:18:10] <wrbtrader> I remember when employees at Sears were ready to go on "strike" for better wages and better pensions
[10:18:19] <wrbtrader> Company gave in after a big fight
[10:18:38] <wrbtrader> Now a few years later...company filling for bankruptcy
[10:18:44] <wrbtrader> Gessh :(
[10:20:41] <wrbtrader> more contracting volatility
[10:21:24] <wrbtrader> Key markets were insync during that recent volatility price movement
[10:21:52] <ofthomas> Tech is lagging behind today... SP & DOW seem to be leading
[10:22:26] <wrbtrader> I didn't see any strange or weird "inverse" price action between Emini ES and Emini NQ like I saw out of the gate yesterday for about 10 minutes
[10:34:11] <wrbtrader> In prior years when the overall volatility was good...calmness (contraction in the volatility) right now at this time of day...
[10:34:24] <wrbtrader> Usually setup the price action for another big movement
[10:35:39] <wrbtrader> Unfortunately in low volatility market conditions...that calmness or inactivity lasts for a long time as in a few hours or the remainder of the trading day with a few spikes that may last a minute or two
[10:35:59] <wrbtrader> Hopefully this summer trading conditions will be different
[10:36:11] <wrbtrader> Yet, I'm not going to hold my breadth
[10:37:01] <ofthomas> NQ seems to be drifting lower. TSLA is dragging it down
[10:38:14] <ofthomas> @ 10:10AM there was a WRB in YM, followed by immediate contracting vol since then..
[10:38:29] <ofthomas> can someone validate that interpretation if you dont mind.
[10:38:41] <ofthomas> 5m chart..
[10:38:49] <ofthomas> it was the same behavior across YM/NQ/ES
[10:39:49] <wrbtrader> Emini NQ had more of a drift lower but it also setup a bullish signal that I missed (most likely wouldn't have traded it)
[10:41:25] <wrbtrader> Emini NQ now above the prior S area of a reaction low of 0755am est
[10:43:19] <wrbtrader> Sears has suspended employees retirement plans, health/dental benefits and retirement life insurance...
[10:43:36] <wrbtrader> Its just too costly for them :(
[10:44:17] <wrbtrader> About 4.5 million dollars in total
[10:44:31] <wrbtrader> That sounds like small change to me
[10:45:23] <wrbtrader> I feel sorry for those that have recently retired from Sears
[10:46:31] <wrbtrader> A lot of old people will be going back to work at other companies :(
[10:49:13] <wrbtrader> Emini futures via the 15min chart interval are trading within the range of a recent Long Lower Shadow interval
[10:49:41] <wrbtrader> Great place for "something" to happen
[10:49:52] <wrbtrader> Hopefully a little volatility will show up soon
[10:51:45] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2414.00 -> small size
[10:51:52] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:51:57] <wrbtrader> intuition trade
[10:52:05] <wrbtrader> no trade signal
[10:55:16] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2413.75 --> + 0.25
[10:55:25] <wrbtrader> :(
[10:55:34] <wrbtrader> Avoided a breakeven trade
[10:55:54] <wrbtrader> Exited early...too much contraction now
[10:56:24] <wrbtrader> This low volatility is gonna pop here soon
[10:57:07] <wrbtrader> VIX not very bad...still in a price range where the market can quickly juice itself up
[11:03:10] <werner1> i don't like this type of price action
[11:03:23] <werner1> crap
[11:04:31] <wrbtrader> Wow...see how Emini ES powered upwards...
[11:04:39] <wrbtrader> Emini NQ has barely moved
[11:04:44] <werner1> indd
[11:05:07] <wrbtrader> That's a classic "markets not insync"
[11:05:23] <wrbtrader> Lets see if NQ can catch up :)
[11:34:30] <wrbtrader> Emini NQ caught up nicely to the Emini ES price action and the surpassed it
[11:34:58] <wrbtrader> Emini ES still has not gotten above its most recent reaction high
[11:35:05] <wrbtrader> Just did :)
[11:35:48] <wrbtrader> Emini NQ has already done such about 6 minutes ago
[11:40:40] <wrbtrader> Emini ES futures price check @ 2418.75
[11:40:52] <wrbtrader> @ 2418.25
[11:41:19] <wrbtrader> Contracting volatility the past 5 mins
[12:00:39] <Donnin______> long es market
[12:02:27] <wrbtrader> Emini ES price action trying hard to climb upwards the range of recent Long Upper Shadow interval
[12:02:55] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 2419.25 -> small size
[12:03:01] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:03:17] <wrbtrader> near the mid-point of the WRB Zone
[12:03:45] <Donnin______> i wish i new all the zones lol
[12:08:45] <wrbtrader> Crude CL futures trying hard to hold on to its 11am est KME price action gains
[12:10:11] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 2418.50 --> - 0.75
[12:10:53] <wrbtrader> Crude Oil is near the mid-point of its most recent Up WRB Hidden Gap interval 15 min chart
[12:13:12] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 2418.25 -> small size
[12:13:22] <wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:13:38] <ofthomas> NQ is struggling to make new high..
[12:14:06] <ofthomas> still lagging behind YM/ES.. but also not falling off the cliff..
[12:15:49] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 2418.00 --> + 0.25
[12:15:54] <wrbtrader> Hindsight...I should have did a reverse order @ 2418.50 (my hesitation cost me one tick on the Long position)
[12:20:14] <Donnin______> ah i should start reversing all my trading decisions
[12:21:19] <Donnin______> i always hit my stop at 3pts
[12:22:30] <ofthomas> do you guys do only value stops, or do you also do time based stops?
[12:22:32] <ofthomas> curious..
[12:22:39] <Donnin______> why not capitalize on that gift
[12:23:35] <Donnin______> seriously i could take my current strategy and reverse all signals
[12:23:35] <wrbtrader> I only do time base stops when I have "schedule medical/dental appointments" :)
[12:23:57] <wrbtrader> I have one today :(
[12:24:11] <wrbtrader> I need to close any positions by 1245pm est
[12:24:38] <wrbtrader> I have a 1315pm est appointment today
[12:26:15] <wrbtrader> I use market orders when I do early exits or when I get spooked out of a trade (profitable or losing) early before stop or pt level is reached
[12:26:31] <ofthomas> Short ESx1 @ 2417.25 SL 2418.25
[12:28:28] <ofthomas> out @ 2416
[12:28:42] <wrbtrader> volatility slowly increasing
[12:28:50] <wrbtrader> intervals expanding
[12:29:57] <wrbtrader> Its not choppy or jerky...good sign for more follow thru to the downside
[12:31:05] <ofthomas> NQ still lagging, its holding while YM/ES lead to the downside..
[12:32:31] <wrbtrader> a little choppy now
[12:34:47] <Donnin______> another problem with only hindsight is i am just realizing that i have to watch for new developments esp if i take a trade before i should
[12:35:17] <Donnin______> im still wired in signal result mode
[12:35:23] <wrbtrader> Yes, strongly agree
[12:36:04] <wrbtrader> I myself continue monitoring the volatility of other key markets even when I'm in a trade in the Emini ES futures
[12:37:11] <wrbtrader> The big boys have a "tendency" to hear about other markets from their fellow employees...often traders in the "exact same" room (big office)
[12:37:55] <wrbtrader> I saw such a few times when visiting friends/relatives for lunch that work for firms
[12:39:04] <wrbtrader> Folks in Crude WTI/Brent futures yelling in the room that also has Gold GC futures traders, Emini futures traders and connected to the next room that has Treasury futures traders...stuff like that
[12:39:32] <wrbtrader> They clearly watch out for each other when a different "asset" is moving
[12:39:53] <wrbtrader> Short term and Long term
[12:43:55] <Donnin______> intresting
[12:54:51] <wrbtrader> I'm calling it quits early today...got some medical appointments (blood tests and doctor review of recent prior test results)
[12:55:38] <werner1> ok take care :)
[12:56:16] <wrbtrader> Take care and I'll see all tomorrow...I doubt I'll make it back in time for the 3:30pm - 4:00pm est trading session
[12:56:49] <ofthomas> good luck w/the dr
[12:56:54] <werner1> np cya
[13:19:41] <werner1> Long Emini NQ @ 5627.75
[13:19:57] <werner1> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 5630.25 --> + 2.5
[14:06:22] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 5614.75
[14:07:42] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 5615.00 --> - 0.25
[14:14:30] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 5613.00
[14:15:15] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 5610.00 --> + 3
[14:15:47] <werner1> wow lucky me,,,,tail
[14:17:36] <werner1> sofar+11
[14:41:30] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 5609.00
[14:41:50] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 5605.00 --> + 4
[14:43:04] <ofthomas> I think if ES/YM break down further NQ will follow..
[14:44:14] <ofthomas> I'll short NQ at 5600 if they do..
[14:50:00] <werner1> most of the time i only look at nq .....i lost focus when i try to read other markets to
[14:53:03] <ofthomas> I keep them all open... ES/NQ/YM... at times they lead each other... like few days back NQ was leading, but now it is lagging... its just to give me an idea of overall market direction to make sure I am with the trend..
[14:53:41] <ofthomas> but they are all holding right now..
[15:11:05] <ofthomas> here we go.. all WBR bars likely across all 3 markets.. and that will be lowest of the day for 2 of them..
[15:11:25] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 5602.25
[15:11:49] <ofthomas> its also filled the WBR zones from this morning..
[15:12:30] <ofthomas> short 1 NQ @ 5600, SL 5604..
[15:12:51] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 5600.50 --> + 1.75
[15:12:58] <ofthomas> TGT 5594
[15:13:45] <ofthomas> hmmm.. stalled...
[15:15:26] <ofthomas> hmmm... I'll add at 5604 1, stop to 5607.. target5591
[15:20:45] <ofthomas> stopped out.. oh well... didnt move it in time to 7.75...
[15:30:51] <ofthomas> now it goes... lol
[15:31:28] <werner1> Shorts Emini NQ @ 5600.75
[15:32:07] <werner1> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 5597.50 --> + 3.25
[15:32:53] <ofthomas> nice, I was going to short 5598 but hesitated.. sucks I was taken out by a tick on my SL..
[15:33:13] <werner1> :(
[15:34:08] <ofthomas> NQ moves a bit more bursty it seems..
[15:34:13] <ofthomas> similar to the TF..
[15:39:49] <ofthomas> TSLA down 6% now... XLK down 91 basis points vs 95 on the futures and QQQs.... so the decline in NQ is mostly all tech impact..
[15:41:21] <ofthomas> I wonder what happens if ES breaks 2405...
[15:42:17] <ofthomas> its filling a WRB HG from 6/29
[16:03:18] <werner1> today + 20...gn all
Session Closed: Thur Jul 06 20:23:15

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##TheStrategyLab (located on the Freenode IRC network) is free and is a serious professional trading chat room involving WRB Analysis in which any trader (position trading, swing trading, day trading) can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries about stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the free chat room nor do you need to be a price action trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not. Yet, the only requirement is that you want to learn WRB Analysis.

Therefore, we welcome all traders that want to learn about WRB Analysis regardless if they are beginners or experience traders in price action trading.

The purpose of ##TheStrategyLab is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

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Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from stocks, futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies Gbp/Usd, Eur/Usd, Eur/Yen, Usd/Cad, Xau/Usd and Xag/Usd

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

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