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 Post subject: October 15th Tuesday - Futures, Forex, Stocks and ETFs
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:56 am 
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Session Start: Tue Oct 15 09:23:28 2013
Session Ident: ##TheStrategyLab
[09:23:28] * Now talking in ##TheStrategyLab
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[09:25:40] <TigermanTrader> sh es 1698.5
[09:27:23] <squiggles> Futures nervous - Paul Ryan tells reporters going into House caucus the Senate plan isn't good enough
[09:29:33] <TigermanTrader> nasty vola contracting
[09:32:35] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1700.25 -7tk
[09:33:14] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1699.00 -> medium size
[09:34:12] <wrbtrader> Short Emini TF futures @ 1083.00 small size 3 contracts
[09:34:41] <TigermanTrader> sh es 1698.5
[09:34:51] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1698.25 +1tk
[09:35:39] <wrbtrader> Cover all Emini TF futures @ 1082.00 +1.00
[09:36:01] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1698.25 --> + 0.75
[09:37:58] <TigermanTrader> I wait to load on next short
[09:40:58] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1698.50 -> large size
[09:41:01] <NDW> TF is very jumpt this mroning
[09:41:06] <NDW> jumpy
[09:41:08] <wrbtrader> small size...not large
[09:41:13] <wrbtrader> 5 contracts
[09:42:28] <TigermanTrader> sh es 1698.25
[09:42:33] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 (shallow) reached
[09:42:47] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1697.25
[09:43:21] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1696.00 --> + 2.5
[09:43:31] <TigermanTrader> miss a good re-entry now it is too late
[09:43:58] <TigermanTrader> anyway seems downtrend is still in charge
[09:44:19] <wrbtrader> I had a late entry by 3 ticks due to a phone call...
[09:44:23] <TigermanTrader> gold shines now
[09:44:47] <wrbtrader> That took away my WRB pt2 potential...forcing me out a little early
[09:45:50] <squiggles> GC taking a run up
[09:46:55] <TigermanTrader> one thing I learn all the way
[09:47:18] <TigermanTrader> try to enter in a good price
[09:47:41] <TigermanTrader> too late and a retrace ruin the profit potential
[09:47:50] <TigermanTrader> not easy to do by emotions
[09:53:17] <wrbtrader> Market Context of the day is that it was "rumored" both sides in the U.S. Government was getting close to a deal until a few republicans went on TV and said that's "not true".
[09:54:41] <wrbtrader> Key market event @ 1000am est FOMC Member Dudley Speech
[10:21:51] <TigermanTrader> lg es 1702.5
[10:22:19] <TigermanTrader> good x me because almost enter at 1703
[10:28:10] <TigermanTrader> exit ES 1703 +2tk lost patience
[10:28:32] <TigermanTrader> to wait a spike that doesn t arrrive
[10:45:53] <TigermanTrader> sh ES 1701
[10:49:57] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1700.5 +2tk
[10:53:24] <TigermanTrader> sh es 1700
[10:55:00] <kristi39_> decreasing volatility on the ym
[10:57:55] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1699 +4tk
[11:09:09] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1698.50 -> small size
[11:09:27] <wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:12:28] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1701.00 --> - 2.5
[11:14:18] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 1703.25 -> large size
[11:14:31] <wrbtrader> 15 contracts
[11:18:03] <NDW> Boehner speaking?
[11:19:15] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 1703.25 --> 0
[11:19:37] <wrbtrader> Yes...he suddenly showed up on TV and it killed my Short position
[11:20:24] <NDW> sure did, quickly
[11:21:03] <wrbtrader> Long Emini ES @ 1704.00 -> large size
[11:21:16] <wrbtrader> 20+5 contracts
[11:25:02] <TigermanTrader> lg es 1705.5
[11:27:06] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1705.75 +1tk
[11:27:53] <wrbtrader> Democrats about to give their own (reply) speech
[11:28:10] <wrbtrader> Geeesh...why can't they do these speaches AFTER the markets close
[11:31:58] <wrbtrader> Exited all Emini ES Long @ 1704.75 --> + 0.75
[11:32:22] <wrbtrader> :(
[11:32:53] <wrbtrader> Had good sizes on both longs but stops got pick pocketed
[11:35:52] <NDW> this market is so jumpy and erratic with the political environment right now
[11:36:50] <wrbtrader> Democrats now speaking
[11:37:43] <wrbtrader> They seem to be responding as if the Republicans don't have the vote to make any deals
[11:38:33] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1702.50 -> medium size
[11:38:59] <wrbtrader> WOW...democrats said the "sabotage" word about the Republicans.
[11:39:25] <wrbtrader> Geeesh...I'm starting to become bearish on the markets instead of bullish that a deal will be made before the deadline
[11:39:43] <wrbtrader> 5 contracts
[11:40:04] <canaandog> good for them
[11:40:06] <canaandog> about time
[11:45:57] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1702.25 --> + 0.25
[11:46:45] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1701.75 -> medium size
[11:46:58] <wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[11:47:03] <TigermanTrader> sh es 1701.75
[11:47:09] <wrbtrader> intuition trade
[11:47:14] <TigermanTrader> miss a higher entry :(
[11:48:16] <TigermanTrader> exit 1/2 ES 1701 +3tk
[11:51:25] <wrbtrader> 1698.50 is my profit target...that's the price I was at in the losing Short that got killed by the Republican sudden TV speech :)
[11:51:48] <wrbtrader> wishful
[11:52:40] <TigermanTrader> exit all ES 1701.75 +0 :(
[11:54:16] <wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1703.25 --> - 1.5
[11:59:02] <TigermanTrader> sh ES 1702.5
[11:59:29] <TigermanTrader> all entry was intuition
[12:01:10] <wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1701.75 -> large size
[12:01:19] <wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[12:03:14] <wrbtrader> I'm in a trade right now that currently there's no Republican or Democrate on TV giving a speech.
[12:03:39] <wrbtrader> Got my fingers cross I can close this trade without crap from some speech
[12:04:09] <TigermanTrader> exit 1/2 ES 1700.75 +7tk
[12:05:35] <TigermanTrader> I no have tv tuned on that show :)
[12:06:22] <TigermanTrader> but speech give always bad headache
[12:07:04] <wrbtrader> :(
[12:08:30] <TigermanTrader> exit all ES 1701.5 +4tk
[12:09:06] <TigermanTrader> I mean speech cause price choppy and difficult to trade
[12:09:40] <TigermanTrader> anyways usually I stick to charts and dom prices
[12:10:26] <wrbtrader> There's a schedule White House press briefing schedule around 1230pm est that may be postponed until AFTER the markets have closed
[12:11:04] <wrbtrader> They should postpone ALL speeches until AFTER the regular markets have closed.
[12:12:10] <canaandog> don't you want any volatility? ;)
[12:12:29] <wrbtrader> Its range bound chop.
[12:12:43] <wrbtrader> I want volatility that produces strong continuation price actions or trends
[12:15:38] <wrbtrader> I will ignore any trade signal that may appear around 1230pm est
[12:16:32] <wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[12:17:15] <@wrbtrader> WRB Analysis -> - Your use of this chat room implies you're using concepts from WRB Analysis for price action trading to help trade either Stocks, Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX 6E Futures, Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40, BUND), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), Oil Futures (Brent, CL, HO, QM), Gold GC Futures, Natural Gas NG Futures, Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY), Hang Seng HSI Futures, NIFTY Futures, Forex Currencies (GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCad) and other key market price actions.
[12:19:46] <@wrbtrader> can't believe I'm sitting here watching the clock so that I'll know when NOT be trading :(
[12:25:21] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1701.25 --> + 0.5
[12:37:13] <TigermanTrader> take care all see next time
[12:45:39] <@wrbtrader> Whitehouse briefing live on TV :(
[13:16:12] <t4npaper> if i survive this mont i'm getting a better chart service, TOS performance has become unusable
[13:30:18] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1699.25 -> large size
[13:30:31] <@wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[13:35:27] <r33gmd> golf futures volatility
[13:35:29] <r33gmd> gold*
[13:48:54] <NDW> no follow through, and all chop
[13:49:56] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES futures R area being retested on the most recent Down WRB Hidden GAP
[13:53:46] <@wrbtrader> Short Light Crude Oil CL futures @ 101.44 small size 3 contract
[13:56:34] <NDW> using 3 min ES?
[13:56:56] <NDW> and also 5 min.
[13:59:59] <@wrbtrader> Cover all Crude Oil CL futures @ 101.39 +0.05
[14:02:15] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1701.25 --> - 2
[14:02:38] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing in different key markets
[14:10:46] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1700.00 -> large size
[14:11:04] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[14:11:25] <@wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[14:14:54] <NDW> Senators are about to start talking about the politics.
[14:15:04] <@wrbtrader> :(
[14:16:44] <t4npaper> gold on the rise
[14:17:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1699.75 --> + 0.25
[14:25:13] <t4npaper> volatility spike near 230
[14:25:37] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1996.25 -> large size
[14:25:54] <@wrbtrader> 10 contracts
[14:26:16] <t4npaper> oil gold eminis spiking
[14:28:17] <@wrbtrader> Short Crude Oil CL futures @ 101.30 medium size 4 contracts
[14:29:47] <@wrbtrader> Cover all Crude Oil CL futures @ 101.14 +0.16
[14:31:15] <@wrbtrader> correction on the Emini ES
[14:31:34] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1696.25 -> large size
[14:34:05] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1695.25 --> + 1
[14:38:24] <NDW> Reid was talking which caused the drop
[14:40:10] <@wrbtrader> nasty snap back
[14:40:39] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1693.00 -> large size
[14:40:55] <@wrbtrader> 25 contracts
[14:42:21] <@wrbtrader> These speeches have been hammering me all day
[14:43:00] <@wrbtrader> 3 tick range just showed up
[14:43:44] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini ES Short @ 1692.75 --> + 0.25
[14:43:56] <@wrbtrader> still hammering me :(
[14:46:12] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1692.50 -> large size
[14:46:30] <@wrbtrader> 25 contracts
[14:48:21] <@wrbtrader> volatility just dried up
[14:48:52] <@wrbtrader> won't complained...it was better than that other crap volatility that was range bound in chop
[14:49:11] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:50:01] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini ES Short @ 1691.75 --> + 0.75
[14:50:20] <@wrbtrader> another nasty snap back
[14:51:28] <@wrbtrader> I'm now expecting another volatility spike
[14:51:38] <@wrbtrader> Time to roll the dice on the position size management
[14:52:41] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini ES @ 1694.50 -> large size
[14:52:59] <@wrbtrader> 20+10 contracts
[14:56:20] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini ES Short @ 1693.75 --> + 0.75
[14:57:52] <@wrbtrader> chop has returned
[15:00:41] <@wrbtrader> volatility increasing again
[15:03:49] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini ES Short @ 1694.25 --> + 0.25
[15:04:00] <@wrbtrader> that was my lucky exit of the day
[15:04:27] <NDW> sure was, what were you using as the stop on that trade?
[15:04:54] <@wrbtrader> It came within 2 ticks of taking my stop at the S arear of the WRB Hidden GAP of 1426pm est of 1697.00
[15:05:04] <NDW> thanks
[15:05:47] <@wrbtrader> This chop is almost painful to trade
[15:06:25] <NDW> I had one losing and 1 winning trade today, decided to sit on the sidelines and watch the theater in Washington play out
[15:06:39] <@wrbtrader> volatility dried up again
[15:06:53] <@wrbtrader> knock on wood...it just spike :)
[15:07:17] <NDW> the market is moved by the politicians today, nothing to do with the market fundamentals or normal price action
[15:08:09] <@wrbtrader> We're now back inside that key change in supply/demand price area
[15:08:40] <@wrbtrader> 1700.00 - 1697.00
[15:09:20] <@wrbtrader> If we get above it...I'll switch to being bullish again
[15:09:52] <@wrbtrader> In contrast, if we stay below it...I'll be more bearish
[15:14:26] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF futures back inside the same time of a WRB Hidden GAP
[15:16:06] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 1079.40 -> large size
[15:16:18] <@wrbtrader> 4+2 contracts
[15:19:18] <@wrbtrader> both TF and ES trading in contraction at/near the S area of that WRB Hidden GAP
[15:20:50] <@wrbtrader> Exited 1/2 Emini TF Long @ 1079.90 --> + 0.5
[15:21:44] <@wrbtrader> I tried this scale out before in this type of price action...
[15:22:03] <@wrbtrader> Didn't go so well in Emini ES and got lucky with a Houdini Escape
[15:25:30] <@wrbtrader> chop chop and more chop
[15:27:36] <TigermanTrader> hi all
[15:27:49] <TigermanTrader> let see if something move
[15:27:54] <TigermanTrader> chip and chop
[15:28:40] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 1079.40 --> 0
[15:29:09] <@wrbtrader> I've had more breakeven trades in one day than I've had in combo the past few months :(
[15:31:57] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 1078.50 -> small size
[15:32:02] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:35:41] <TigermanTrader> sh ES 1695.25
[15:39:53] <@wrbtrader> Short Emini ES futures @ 1695.25 large size 10 contracts
[15:42:18] <TigermanTrader> exit es @ 1694.25 +4tk
[15:42:23] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 1078.60 --> - 0.1
[15:42:31] <TigermanTrader> close it at second time
[15:42:58] <TigermanTrader> anyway is very difficult trade this
[15:43:05] <TigermanTrader> not clear direction
[15:43:15] <NDW> see all tomorrow
[15:43:27] <TigermanTrader> 1694 es seems a support
[15:43:36] <TigermanTrader> break it now
[15:47:18] <@wrbtrader> Cover Emini ES futures @ 1693.25 +2.00
[15:50:11] <@wrbtrader> a lot of trades today
[15:50:24] <@wrbtrader> didn't plan on being this aggressive
[15:50:52] <@wrbtrader> Based upon all the speeches I saw today...
[15:50:57] <TigermanTrader> sh ES 1693.5
[15:51:04] <@wrbtrader> I'm going to assume tomorrow will be the same.
[15:51:12] <@wrbtrader> May be a good day to just watch
[15:53:07] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1692.5 +4tk
[15:59:34] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 1077.00 -> small size
[15:59:48] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[16:01:49] <TigermanTrader> sh ES 1693
[16:04:42] <TigermanTrader> exit es 1692.75 +1tk
[16:05:00] <TigermanTrader> do not want retrace against me
[16:06:36] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 1078.00 --> - 1
[16:08:38] <@wrbtrader> Price still stuck in that last 20 minutes of volatility contraction.
[16:08:44] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[16:15:05] <TigermanTrader> take care all see all tomorrow
Session Close: Wed Oct 16 00:00:00 2013

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##TheStrategyLab (located on the Freenode IRC network) is free and is a serious professional trading chat room involving WRB Analysis in which any trader (position trading, swing trading, day trading) can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries about stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not. Yet, the only requirement is that you want to learn WRB Analysis.

Therefore, we welcome all traders that want to learn about WRB Analysis regardless if they are beginners or experience traders in price action trading.

The purpose of ##TheStrategyLab is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

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Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called ##VolatilityTradingTSL or ##WRB_Analysis and they're not allowed to do such in ##TheStrategyLab.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that ##TheStrategyLab is a serious professional price action trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

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