##TheStrategyLab Price Action Chat Room Logs

#TheStrategyLab (formerly known as #FuturesTrades) is free along with being a serious professional trading chat room involving WRB Analysis and any trader can use the chat room to post their real-time trades, real-time price action analysis or market commentaries involving stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Further, although our chat room is smaller than the other popular chat rooms...we are the most active chat room in posting trades, price action analysis or market commentaries in comparison to other free chat rooms.

#TheStrategyLab is primarily designed to be only a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day and this gives them a better understanding of their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day. In addition, we welcome all traders (beginners and experience) that are merging WRB Analysis with their trade methods or using WRB Analysis to develop a better understanding of the price action (market context) they're trading...improving their position size management and trade management after entry.

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Chat logs saved (timestamp) from Québec, Canada in eastern daylight time

Session Start: Wed Sep 12 09:23:24 2012
Session Ident: #TheStrategyLab
[09:23:24] * Now talking in #TheStrategyLab
[09:23:24] * Topic is ' WRB Analysis Traders using WRB Analysis - WRBs, WRB Hidden GAPs, WRB Zones, FVB Basic Trade Signal Strategy @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum '
[09:23:24] * Set by X on Wed Aug 22 20:20:21
[09:24:43] <+Trendtrader> all
[09:30:44] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 845.6 «« simulator »»
[09:30:47] <+Trendtrader> x10
[09:30:47] <Tigerman> all
[09:31:19] <leoconteisni>
[09:31:33] <+Trendtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 844.6 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:31:54] <+leoconteisni> are u trading it real or simulating?
[09:32:07] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:32:30] <@wrbtrader> Leocon...you should use the person name in your message because some folks in here really aren't here.
[09:32:38] <@wrbtrader> Thus, they don't see your questions.
[09:32:47] <+leoconteisni> ah
[09:32:48] <+leoconteisni> ok
[09:32:50] <+leoconteisni> sorry
[09:33:09] <@wrbtrader> What I mean is that some are sending their trades in here from "another location".
[09:33:24] <@wrbtrader> I myself do it too sometimes
[09:33:54] <+leoconteisni> is it kind of a script?
[09:34:00] <@wrbtrader> Yes.
[09:34:20] <+leoconteisni> nice
[09:34:24] <@wrbtrader> For example, I can send messages in here from my twitter account.
[09:34:49] <+leoconteisni> i used to use mirc a lot
[09:34:53] <+leoconteisni> but long time ago
[09:35:13] <@wrbtrader> Emini YM in a Creeper Up Movement
[09:36:13] <@wrbtrader> another strange opening with key markets not insync...kind'uv getting old
[09:37:52] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 845.00 -> medium size
[09:37:57] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:38:05] <+leoconteisni> it set a buy in ES about 1435.50 but didnt got it =/
[09:38:26] <canaandog> old = very
[09:40:52] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders using concepts from WRB Analysis to understand "market context" and to help improve the performance of your trade signal strategies. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[09:42:02] <@wrbtrader> Key Market Events @ 1000am and 1030am est
[09:44:12] <@wrbtrader>
[09:44:23] <@wrbtrader> tough again
[09:49:59] <@wrbtrader> Other Eminis now getting insync
[09:51:37] <@wrbtrader> lowest volatility and volume open of the week so far
[09:53:15] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 844.00 --> - 1
[09:54:01] <@wrbtrader> This is not a hyped news event coming around the corner.
[09:54:18] <@wrbtrader> Thus, I expect the low volatility tight trading range to continue
[09:54:46] <@wrbtrader> S area of most recent WRB Hidden GAP being tested
[10:01:12] <@wrbtrader> We're still stuck inside the RANGE of the prior trading day.
[10:01:21] <@wrbtrader> That's several consecutive trading days of such.
[10:01:30] <@wrbtrader> maybe the first time all year like this
[10:01:55] <+Tigerman> infact sever days my trading is not good
[10:02:24] <+Tigerman> Vxx is at lowest value in 5 years !!
[10:02:37] <@wrbtrader> Yep
[10:02:54] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 842.90 -> large size
[10:03:01] <@wrbtrader> 4+2
[10:03:03] <+Tigerman> usually volatility should rise after that low value
[10:03:28] <@wrbtrader> If you're new to trading...this is the type of price action you WANT to learn how to trade within.
[10:03:36] <@wrbtrader> It doesn't get any worst than this.
[10:04:05] <@wrbtrader> If you can manage this type of market conditions...you'll make a killing whenever the VIX is rising or high.
[10:05:28] <@wrbtrader> Covered 2/3 Emini TF Short @ 842.00 --> + 0.9
[10:05:41] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:06:20] <@wrbtrader> I've cut my profit goals by 50% for this trading week...
[10:06:37] <@wrbtrader> The volatility is just too low for the Emini futures
[10:07:46] <@wrbtrader> Other option is to switch to another trading instrument (e.g. Oil CL futures, EuroFX 6E futures) to trade during low volatility conditions in the general market
[10:07:57] <@wrbtrader> That's what I've always done in the past
[10:08:12] <@wrbtrader> will do it again if this low volatilty level continues
[10:08:51] <@wrbtrader> never get married to your trading instrumet
[10:09:45] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 842.80 --> + 0.1
[10:13:22] <+leoconteisni> shorted ES 1 contract 1437.75
[10:16:00] <@wrbtrader> Inside the range of that WRB Hidden GAP @ 0952am - 0954am est
[10:20:16] <@wrbtrader> Today I started getting those email reminders from my brokers about "rollover and delivery" of trading instruments
[10:20:57] <@wrbtrader> I notice they don't send out emails to tell folks that volatility is at record lows and you should take LESS trades
[10:20:59] <@wrbtrader>
[10:21:30] <+leoconteisni> lol
[10:23:21] <@wrbtrader> Look at Emini YM in comparison to NQ or TF...
[10:23:42] <@wrbtrader> That's NORMAL (not insync) for "low volatility market conditions"
[10:24:25] <@wrbtrader> Add that to the record number of money that's been pulled OUT of the markets this year by investors...
[10:24:38] <@wrbtrader> Its tough
[10:26:21] <+leoconteisni> its really a low volume this week
[10:26:32] <+leoconteisni> maybe waiting to tomorrow datas?
[10:29:22] <@wrbtrader> I don't think tomorrow's economic data is going to save the volatility this week.
[10:30:11] <@wrbtrader> By the way, someone once said in here the volatility is normally low the 2 weeks of September when many kids and college students go back to school.
[10:30:34] <@wrbtrader> I've never research that to verify if that's a real "market tendency"
[10:30:42] <+leoconteisni> lol
[10:30:45] <@wrbtrader> If its true...it can then be exploited.
[10:31:03] <+leoconteisni> but maybe theres something
[10:31:26] <@wrbtrader> Simply, if you're single (dont have kids in school)...good time to go on a vacation
[10:32:13] <@wrbtrader> seriously, that info can be used to tell you when to trade a different trading instrument that's not impacted by volatility as much in comparison to whatever it is you're trading
[10:32:32] <@wrbtrader> For those first two weeks of September
[10:34:23] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 840.00 -> small size
[10:34:29] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:34:35] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[10:35:04] <@wrbtrader> Hammer lines just showed up AFTER my entry
[10:35:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 840.50 --> - 0.5
[10:38:11] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 840.20 -> small size
[10:38:16] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:38:19] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[10:41:20] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:41:39] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 839.10 --> + 1.1
[10:43:31] <+leoconteisni> covered ES 1 contract 1434.00
[10:43:42] <+leoconteisni> +3.75
[10:44:09] <@wrbtrader> nice
[10:44:35] <+leoconteisni> just one contract
[10:45:17] <@wrbtrader> The issue if did you follow your trading plan...if so...its always good.
[10:45:48] <@wrbtrader> Therefore, if you're suppose to trade via 1 contract...
[10:45:51] <@wrbtrader> You did good
[10:46:50] <@wrbtrader> That's the only way to develop good trading habits...documenting your ability to follow your trading plan.
[10:47:26] <+leoconteisni> yeah
[10:47:37] <+leoconteisni> i never traded this market before
[10:47:40] <+leoconteisni> still learning
[10:47:53] <+Fleneer> watsa trading plan :o)
[10:47:59] <+Tigerman> yes ability to follow plan is important the problem arise when following the plan you loss money
[10:48:14] <+leoconteisni> lol
[10:48:42] <@wrbtrader> The REAL problem is making money while NOT following your trading plan.
[10:49:10] <+Tigerman> x my experience many times I get better result when not follow the plan
[10:49:12] <@wrbtrader> I've never seen a trader survive such too long because it develops bad trading habits
[10:49:15] <+Fleneer> 2 cents.... every market every day is different. you musst be flexible. Trading is so very much like poker. you gotta know ehn to hold em...
[10:49:46] <@wrbtrader> Losses occurs...
[10:49:54] <+Tigerman> of corse I mean to be flexible depends of market contsest
[10:50:07] <@wrbtrader> Therefore, when losing...make sure your losses occurs via the right reasons...not the wrong reasons
[10:50:16] <+Tigerman> one have to know the plan and follow
[10:50:26] <+Fleneer> Or I often refer to trading as a high risk price action, because I truly believe many days to be that way. Take a position and set your brackets and let come what may...
[10:50:47] <+Fleneer> roll dem bones...
[10:50:56] <+Tigerman> but to be able to modify the stop loss and target level makes difference
[10:51:20] <+Fleneer> and NEVER forget the house has the edgte. You're a looser the minute you step up to the table.
[10:51:40] <+Fleneer> If you see green grab it!
[10:51:50] <+Tigerman> today for exmple I am too busy to click in my dome and not reported my trades here
[10:51:51] <@wrbtrader>
[10:52:10] <+Tigerman> in reality I ve done a lot
[10:52:42] <+Tigerman> I recuped all my loss doing trdes based on my experience
[10:53:01] <@wrbtrader> One month several years ago I monitor how much I was clicking...
[10:53:12] <+Tigerman> if have sticked on plan exactly I still have losses
[10:53:25] <@wrbtrader> There's a direct relationship between number of clicks and my profit/loss statement
[10:53:27] <@wrbtrader>
[10:53:27] <+Fleneer> Well, to draw from the flying business. You gotta set of priorities. Foremost is fly the airplane (make your trades) then when that task allows navigate (check your trading plan and make adjustments) third ois to communicate!
[10:53:37] <@wrbtrader> Thus, I don't want to be clicking too much
[10:53:55] <+Tigerman> THAT kind of experience in very difficult to write out
[10:54:53] <+Tigerman> one have to understand what happen right now
[10:55:25] <+Tigerman> look how market moves
[10:56:05] <@wrbtrader> Almost a 8 point range today so far in the Emini TF
[10:56:09] <+Tigerman> to be fast to decide if is better a big stop or small stop
[10:56:31] <@wrbtrader> that's actually better than expected for this type of "low volatility" conditions
[10:56:39] <+Tigerman> this valid for the last minutes
[10:56:53] <+Tigerman> in 1 hour later things change
[11:10:52] <@X> WRB Analysis -> 8,2 - Your use of this chat room implies you're using concepts from WRB Analysis to help trade either Stocks, Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), Oil Futures (Brent, CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY), Forex Currencies (GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCad) or other key market price actions.
[11:21:32] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 843.90 -> small size
[11:21:42] <@wrbtrader> just got back after a personal break
[11:21:49] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:22:21] <@wrbtrader> decided I'm going to trade the mid-day trading session because I noticed the moves recently has been occurring mid-day when I'm away on a break
[11:22:49] <@wrbtrader> looks like it started a little early today
[11:25:36] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 844.00 --> + 0.1
[11:29:25] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF with WRB Hidden GAP @ 1118am - 1121am and 1051am - 1054am est
[11:31:40] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 844.50 -> small size
[11:31:46] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:31:52] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still active
[11:38:00] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 844.70 --> + 0.2
[11:38:05] <@wrbtrader>
[11:38:16] <@wrbtrader> chop showed up
[11:40:25] <@wrbtrader> $TF_F - Emini TF futures with WRB Hidden GAP @ 1130am - 1133am, 1118am - 1121am and 1051am - 1054am est
[11:40:57] <@wrbtrader> That represent the Creeper Up Movement since 1050am est
[11:53:43] <@wrbtrader> S area of the most recent WRB Hidden GAP I mentioned earlier is being tested right now
[12:40:53] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders using concepts from WRB Analysis to understand "market context" and to help improve the performance of your trade signal strategies. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[12:59:07] <@wrbtrader> wow...I hung around for this
[13:00:21] <@wrbtrader> The price action since 12noon est could have been no worst with a "coin flip"
[13:00:28] <@wrbtrader>
[13:04:41] <@wrbtrader> QQQ and Emini NQ...very nice volatility spike
[13:07:44] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 844.70 -> small size
[13:07:55] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[13:08:09] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement
[13:08:34] <@wrbtrader> they've been losing their steam as soon as I've entered in them the past few trades
[13:13:23] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 843.80 --> - 0.9
[13:13:29] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[13:14:11] <+canaandog> someone flipped coin again
[13:14:28] <@wrbtrader> Yep
[13:14:36] <@wrbtrader> and the range just got tighter
[13:17:07] <+Tigerman> this kind of price action make me very stressed
[13:17:42] <@wrbtrader> Keep it tight on the risk AND reward...lowers the stress
[13:17:45] <@wrbtrader> seriously
[13:18:37] <+Tigerman> oh yeah i m tight on risk reward
[13:18:57] <+Tigerman> the problem market do not take a clear direction
[13:19:48] <+Tigerman> simply is not a market x newbe
[13:19:48] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully tomorrow we can break outside this range we've seen the past few trading days
[13:20:30] <+Tigerman> we hope so strangly market do not move big after germany news about ESM
[13:21:12] <+Tigerman> or better do a big spike at 10am in EU time
[13:21:35] <+Tigerman> but not a following trend day after that
[13:22:04] <+Tigerman> I was in front of my screen when that spike happen
[13:22:18] <+Tigerman> Dax move a lot of point
[13:22:50] <+Tigerman> not a good situation if someone not used tight stop loss
[13:22:57] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 843.60 -> medium size
[13:23:03] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[13:23:06] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[13:23:52] <+Tigerman> I exit take care all see all tomorrow
[13:24:15] <@wrbtrader> oh oh
[13:24:24] <@wrbtrader> looking for a Houdini Escape
[13:28:27] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 843.50 --> + 0.1
[13:28:58] <@wrbtrader> it got within 2 ticks of a WRB pt1
[13:31:16] <@wrbtrader> This is sometimes called a "sleep walking market"
[13:42:01] <@wrbtrader> lots of long shadows the past 10 minutes
[13:42:21] <@wrbtrader> price action trying hard to do something but just can't get it started
[14:19:41] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 842.60 -> medium size
[14:20:26] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[14:22:37] <@wrbtrader> trying to go back up inside the incredible range
[14:23:27] <@wrbtrader> still have not figure out why the price action today is so content to stay inside that "low volatility tight trading range since 12noon est
[14:25:53] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders using concepts from WRB Analysis to understand "market context" and to help improve the performance of your trade signal strategies. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[14:31:36] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 842.90 --> - 0.3
[14:32:27] <@wrbtrader> may reset again but at a lower price
[14:33:35] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 842.70 -> medium size
[14:33:44] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[14:34:13] <@wrbtrader> prior trail I had to tighten it up while price was only a few ticks away
[14:34:29] <@wrbtrader> will do the same again if the trade moves a few ticks my way
[14:35:19] <T4n_paper> tightening up again
[14:36:51] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[14:43:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 841.30 --> + 1.4
[14:51:19] <@wrbtrader> tough day at the office...market making you earn every single penny
[15:08:58] <+T4n_paper> shadowy indecisive
[15:33:17] <+T4n_paper> good little trend line break
[15:44:21] <+T4n_paper> nice push
[15:55:54] <@X> #TheStrategyLab -> Chat room for traders using concepts from WRB Analysis to understand "market context" and to help improve the performance of your trade signal strategies. WRB Analysis free study guide @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/tsl/forum ... =119&t=718
[15:59:00] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 843.90 -> small size
[15:59:12] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:59:55] <+T4n_paper> by all
[16:00:57] <+T4n_paper> hey, i got .1 off this final move :P
[16:01:02] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[16:01:18] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 846.20 --> + 2.3
[16:02:40] <@wrbtrader> someone once said that most low volatility tight trading range days...only the last 30 minutes are worth trading.
[16:02:57] <@wrbtrader> Today sure did fit that description.
[16:08:02] <@wrbtrader> By the way, we're still stuck inside the establish range.
[16:20:40] <@wrbtrader> I hope the VIX doesn't go back to the extreme low volatility we had in 2004, 2005 and 2006...tough trading years.
[16:20:50] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[17:40:54] <@X> WRB Analysis -> 8,2 - Your use of this chat room implies you're using concepts from WRB Analysis to help trade either Stocks, Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), Oil Futures (Brent, CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY), Forex Currencies (GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCad) or other key market price actions.
Session Close: Wed Sep 12 18:07:20 2012

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#TheStrategyLab is free and is a serious professional trading chat room involving WRB Analysis in which any trader can use the chat room to post their trades or commentaries about stocks, futures, exchange traded funds or forex currencies. Simply, you don't need to be a client of TheStrategyLab.com to use the chat room nor do you need to be a price action only trader (no indicators) because some members use indicators while others do not. Yet, the only requirement is that you want to learn WRB Analysis.

Therefore, we welcome all traders that want to learn about WRB Analysis regardless if they are beginners or experience

The purpose of #TheStrategyLab is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from stocks, futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Forex Currencies Gbp/Usd, Eur/Usd, Eur/Yen and Usd/Cad

Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #TheStrategyLab.

Reminder, our Terms of Use (TOU) Policy is a must read to prevent any misunderstandings along with revealing that #TheStrategyLab is a serious professional trading chat room and we expect members to act professional. Also, these logs may have been edited (rarely) to remove any messages that a member has complained to me via private message that they consider a particular commentary to be inappropriate, offending or too far in the off topic area that's a distraction when the commentary was posted.

Note: chat logs saved (timestamp) from Québec, Canada in eastern daylight time

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