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 Post subject: June 4th Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:34 am 
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#FuturesTrades is designed to be only a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day and this gives them a better understanding of their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day. In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the price action and markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries about the price action on their monitors.

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Session Start: Mon Jun 04 07:26:47 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:26:47] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:26:47] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[08:11:39] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:27:37] <wave1> gm all
[09:29:07] <canaandog> gm
[09:35:09] <+wave1> geez boom cant chase it here NQ
[09:35:26] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:38:00] <+wave1> D 81 es
[09:38:03] <+wave1> S
[09:41:16] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 74.17
[09:41:36] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 IWM Short @ 74.5 --> - 0.33
[09:41:40] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:41:46] <+wave1> out 79
[09:42:02] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder IWM Short @ 74.11 --> + 0.06
[09:42:39] <+Tigerman> exited before the targer was reached because no patience to hang on
[09:42:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 739.60 -> large size
[09:44:10] <@wrbtrader> 3+3
[09:45:14] <+Tigerman> volaility is rising
[09:45:30] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[09:46:18] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 737.50 --> + 2.1
[09:46:42] <+Tigerman> good
[09:49:01] <Fleneer> wild market this morning. one tradae long on a Fib retrace and stopped for a loss.
[09:51:46] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[09:51:51] <@wrbtrader> in Eurex and Emini futures
[09:53:28] <+Tigerman> wrbtrader dou you mean dax or stoxx or both ?
[09:57:11] <+Tigerman> spike down on tf
[09:57:35] <@wrbtrader> Eurex and Euronext
[09:57:47] <@wrbtrader> all of them
[10:02:57] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 73.49
[10:07:19] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[10:08:15] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 73.40 --> + 0.09
[10:08:31] <+Fleneer> LOL creeper? NQ fell of a cliff 2480.25 the HOD at the open and just hit 2444
[10:08:58] <+Fleneer> I had two big stops trying to catch support at my EMAs then got back about half the losses with a short
[10:09:33] <+Tigerman> grrr made the mistake to let a stop in dom so triggered me a buy ehen I wanna go short :(
[10:10:03] <+Tigerman> to compensate I use a bigger size to compensate in later trades
[10:10:22] <+Tigerman> over that I close the platform by mistake 2 times :(
[10:10:39] <+Tigerman> simply when paniced a lot of mistake follows... :(
[10:11:12] <+Tigerman> of course that many trades are unreported here to fast action
[10:12:14] <+Tigerman> anyway I am to be breakeven after that mess
[10:13:07] <+Tigerman> simply real money trade and paper or simulator are diffrent beast similar but not the same :)
[10:14:37] <+Tigerman> price trey now rresume the sell off
[10:35:15] <@wrbtrader> Just got back after some family distractions
[10:47:34] <@wrbtrader> looks like the "volatility contraction" has shown up about 1 hour earlier.
[10:48:06] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully there's "one more" strong directional price movement "before" the mid-day trading session starts
[10:52:41] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1030am - 1032am est is defining the current low volatility tight trading range.
[10:53:17] <+Fleneer> Well I oput myself in a deep hole to start by trtying to catch the falling knife. managed to trade it to near BE net. gonna quit here
[10:57:28] <+Fleneer> done. managed to recover all the red ink. stepping aside.
[11:10:12] <+canaandog> short emd 893 3c sim [10:58]
[11:11:35] <+canaandog> flat emd 891.6
[11:13:50] <+canaandog> pickpocketed, as it turns out
[11:15:33] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 736.80 -> small size
[11:15:40] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[11:16:03] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[11:17:06] <T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 736.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:17:52] <@wrbtrader> retesting the R area of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1010am - 1012am est
[11:18:58] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 736.50 --> + 0.3
[11:19:15] <@wrbtrader> :(
[11:19:25] <@wrbtrader> tighten that trail too soon
[11:23:32] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 736 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[11:26:40] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:29:42] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[11:30:54] <+wave1> y
[11:36:26] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 734.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:39:32] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 734.6 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[11:43:10] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 734.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:46:43] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 734 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:47:44] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[11:48:22] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 734.10 -> small size
[11:48:32] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:51:32] <@wrbtrader> shallow WRB pt1 :(
[11:53:05] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 743.50 --> - 9.4
[11:53:15] <@wrbtrader> ooops
[11:53:26] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 733.50 --> + 0.6
[12:12:54] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[12:26:07] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 731.20 -> small size
[12:26:15] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[12:33:17] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 730.10 --> + 1.1
[12:33:20] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[12:56:41] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:33:34] <+Tigerman> take care see tomorrow
[14:41:41] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:43:09] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 736.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:48:06] <+canaandog> short emd 890.8 2c sim
[14:49:36] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 736 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[14:50:22] <+canaandog> pt1
[14:51:55] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still active
[14:55:03] <+canaandog> flat emd 890
[14:56:01] <+canaandog> +1.6cp [contract-points]
[14:56:45] <+canaandog> trail a little too tight again
[15:02:06] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[15:08:54] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 734.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:16:43] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 732.4 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[15:17:06] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 733.30 -> small size
[15:17:44] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:18:01] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[15:22:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 733.30 --> 0
[15:22:56] <@wrbtrader> tight trading range developing
[15:23:44] <@wrbtrader> still have fear of that "strange" choppy volatility that we saw back in May
[15:24:11] <+Fleneer> back for the close. try to keep my green day
[15:25:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 732.90 -> medium size
[15:25:25] <@wrbtrader> re-entry intuition
[15:25:32] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 732.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:25:42] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[15:26:31] <@wrbtrader> geeesh :(
[15:27:03] <@wrbtrader> it got tighter
[15:27:27] <@wrbtrader> now looking for a Houdini Escape
[15:27:31] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 733.2 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[15:28:28] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 733.50 --> - 0.6
[15:32:07] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 732.50 -> medium size
[15:32:16] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:32:55] <@wrbtrader> S area around 731.50 of the WRB HG @ 1418pm - 1420pm est
[15:33:32] <@wrbtrader> most of the recent price action within that WRB Zone
[15:33:49] <@wrbtrader> so far not coughing up any money :(
[15:35:37] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[15:36:11] <@wrbtrader> fighting hard not to retrace down to that S area
[15:36:42] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 732.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:36:54] <@wrbtrader> volatility chop showing up now
[15:37:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 732.50 --> 0
[15:38:15] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:38:55] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 732.8 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[15:41:58] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 732.80 -> medium size
[15:42:47] <@wrbtrader> re-entry via a FADE of the R area...not looking good so far
[15:43:20] <+canaandog> and here i've been considering going long :)
[15:44:07] <@wrbtrader> pending rush hour traffic
[15:44:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 734.00 --> - 1.2
[15:44:46] <+canaandog> should have
[15:45:04] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[15:45:27] <@wrbtrader> too early for a volatility spike in the rush hour traffic but there it is
[15:49:09] <+canaandog> would be +1.8 if I'd taken my entry
[15:49:29] <+canaandog> lesson: don't let others put you off your own trades
[15:51:10] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement
[15:52:29] <@wrbtrader> it started very early...curious to see what it does now with 7 minutes remaining
[15:56:06] <Nicolas88> Good afternoon to all. My presence was a test. I will probably come back for real-time trading. 1/2
[15:56:12] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 736.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:56:21] <+Nicolas88> Meanwhile, wish you the best for your trading. :) 2/2
[15:56:45] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still active
[15:58:48] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 736.50 -> medium size
[15:58:55] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:59:36] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 736.8 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[16:00:15] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 735.30 --> - 1.2
[16:00:31] <StormwolfT> test
[16:01:56] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike...so far taking it back down to where it started out of that low volatility tight trading range
[16:02:40] <@wrbtrader> starting to feel like the start of May last month
[16:04:39] <@wrbtrader> Good volatility today in the 0930am 0 1000am duration...was here to trade it
[16:05:25] <@wrbtrader> Good volatility in the 1335pm - 1435pm est...was not here to trade it.
[16:07:06] <@wrbtrader> Good voaltility in the 1445pm - 1510pm est...traded it but not able to get anything out of it
[16:07:46] <+T4n_paper> cya
[16:08:42] <+canaandog> is annoying to come back and find one has missed an obvious and good trade
[16:09:00] <@wrbtrader> Gotta get use to it...
[16:09:07] <@wrbtrader> I have SEVERAL every trading day
[16:09:25] <@wrbtrader> been like that for +20 years
[16:09:30] <+canaandog> yeah, I know
[16:10:18] <@wrbtrader> I usually miss about 40% - 50% of each trading day...intentionally.
[16:11:04] <@wrbtrader> I just don't have the mental strength to sit and the computers from 9 to 5
[16:11:06] <+canaandog> because didn't feel quite right? or other reason?
[16:11:22] <+canaandog> oh, yeah. know what you mean there. hard work.
[16:11:41] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:11:49] <@wrbtrader> That's normal with any career
[16:11:52] <+canaandog> intense focus
[16:12:05] <@wrbtrader> Young folks sit and pound the kids all day...work overtime.
[16:12:33] <@wrbtrader> Older folks go find time away from the office during the day and then go home (no overtime)
[16:12:34] <@wrbtrader> :)
[16:12:54] <+canaandog> yep - I'm with you...
[16:13:48] <+canaandog> I've found my IT backgound very helpful learning the tutorials. Often had to approach a complex system and learn it fast.
[16:14:41] <@wrbtrader> By the way, the daily chart of the Eminis volatility analysis...
[16:14:53] <+canaandog> only diff is that code and systems can be more easily tested empirically. one can usually control the number of variables.
[16:15:01] <@wrbtrader> I'm expecting a TREND DAY this week
[16:15:25] <@wrbtrader> something along the lines that produces a WRB Hidden GAP on the daily charts
[16:15:54] <+canaandog> cool. hope I can catch it-- maybe with real $
[16:16:04] <@wrbtrader> If it doesn't happen this week...I will be lowering my position size "dramatically" for next week.
[16:16:33] <@wrbtrader> This week without a WRB Hidden GAP on the daily chart will setup some NASTY price action next week.
[16:17:11] <+canaandog> one problem I have is figuring out how to enter an already-running trend safely- watched many go by because I missed the start
[16:17:32] <@wrbtrader> I use the Creeper Movement for entering trends.
[16:17:50] <@wrbtrader> Most of the time I get a setup...once in awhile I don't get a setup
[16:18:41] <+canaandog> is there something more detailed on that that I haven't found? I think so far I've found only a 1-pager that's pretty general
[16:19:14] <@wrbtrader> Its ALL in the chat logs of the other chat room #VolatilityTradingTSL
[16:19:39] <+canaandog> ah, ok
[16:19:40] <@wrbtrader> Very detailed...in depth with tons of chart discussions without the charts
[16:20:09] <+canaandog> will research there
[16:20:10] <@wrbtrader> meant...nobody post charts about it. Just reference point talks.
[16:20:41] <@wrbtrader> Simply, everytime someone talks about it...gotta make your own charts and save them.
[16:21:34] <+canaandog> np; I can pull charts from discussion context
[16:22:29] <+canaandog> gtg - c u tomorrow
[16:22:55] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[16:23:04] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[17:56:42] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Mon Jun 04 19:47:42 2012

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The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

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Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

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