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 Post subject: June 1st Friday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:49 pm 
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Session Start: Fri Jun 01 09:44:38 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:11:10] <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:30:05] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:31:27] <Trendtrader> Long Emini ES @ 744.2
[09:31:28] <Trendtrader> x4
[09:32:20] <Trendtrader> Exited 1/2 Emini ES Long @ 745.2 --> + 1
[09:32:54] * canaandog_ has joined #FuturesTrades
[09:33:36] <Trendtrader> Exited 1/4 Emini ES Long @ 746.2 --> + 2
[09:35:06] <Trendtrader> Exited Remainder Emini ES Long @ 748 --> + 3.8
[09:40:32] * hp102 has joined #FuturesTrades
[09:41:10] <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:41:53] <StormwolfT> where is Mark?
[09:42:27] <canaandog_> don't know
[09:42:59] <Fleneer> ES hit 1280.00 LOD overnight. on the jobs number I guess
[09:43:10] <Fleneer> NQ 2470.75
[09:43:23] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:44:23] * wrbtrader has joined #FuturesTrades
[09:44:23] <X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:44:23] * X sets mode: +o wrbtrader
[09:44:49] * canaandog_ is now known as canaandog
[09:44:49] * canaandog is now known as canaandog_
[09:45:41] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:46:24] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement active
[09:46:40] <Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 74.69
[09:48:31] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 74.6 -> Add
[09:49:09] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 74.6 --> + 0.09
[09:54:04] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 74.54
[09:54:25] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 74.49 --> + 0.05
[09:58:29] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 74.44
[09:58:38] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 IWM Short @ 74.43 --> + 0.01
[09:58:54] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder IWM Short @ 74.42 --> + 0.02
[10:05:43] <+Tigerman> Long IWM @ 74.78
[10:06:00] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 IWM Long @ 74.89 --> + 0.11
[10:06:08] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder IWM Long @ 74.85 --> + 0.07
[10:06:45] <+Tigerman> first time in green
[10:07:03] <+Tigerman> simply also if got previous profit was ruined by commisions
[10:08:25] <+Tigerman> price try hard to get out from price zone related with previous morning news
[10:13:53] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 74.77
[10:14:17] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 IWM Short @ 74.76 --> + 0.01
[10:14:24] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder IWM Short @ 74.74 --> + 0.03
[10:15:04] <+Tigerman> price not able to go out that zone
[10:15:18] <+Tigerman> stay still inside
[10:15:31] <@wrbtrader> Agree
[10:16:03] <@wrbtrader> I'm not touching this until the price action gets OUTSIDE of the range of that big WRB Hidden GAP @ 0830am est
[10:16:35] <StormwolfT> my data shows TF had a few trades outside that zone. 2mi chart
[10:17:03] <@wrbtrader> None for me
[10:17:15] <@wrbtrader> will just wait for something to show up
[10:19:26] <@wrbtrader> May jobs report: Hiring slows, unemployment rises (CNNMoney) @ http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/01/news/ec ... m?iid=Lead
[10:22:23] <+StormwolfT> does anyone here uses DAS Trader pro?
[10:22:51] <+Tigerman> no never hear about that what is it ?
[10:23:18] <+StormwolfT> software and data provider
[10:23:43] <@wrbtrader> they're in Europe ?
[10:23:53] <+StormwolfT> US
[10:25:12] <+Tigerman> I checked seems more directed to stock trader
[10:25:49] <+StormwolfT> was just wondering what is the vix symbol
[10:26:28] <+Tigerman> vix is the cboe volatility index
[10:26:51] <+Tigerman> or storm do you speak a symbol in DAS trader?
[10:27:02] <+StormwolfT> yup
[10:30:16] <+Tigerman> my previous short was planned in the right direction but simply not have the patience to hang on longer
[10:30:36] <+Tigerman> so I exit soon x only a couple a ticks
[10:31:01] <+Tigerman> to saty longer in a trade is one thing I have to improve
[10:31:16] <+StormwolfT> does anyone here uses IB?
[10:31:30] <+Tigerman> yep
[10:31:58] <+StormwolfT> the fee for ICE data was $75 but they were charging $1 if you do trades. is this still the case?
[10:32:10] <+Tigerman> simplt I am sometimes scared price retrace against me ans so I exit soon before a target reach
[10:32:57] <+Tigerman> strom seems is still the same
[10:33:15] <@wrbtrader> I thought "most" brokers don't charge the ICE fee if you're an active trader.
[10:33:31] <+Tigerman> but now I trade IWM
[10:33:38] <+StormwolfT> Tiger, they have been charging you $1?
[10:33:59] <+Fleneer> I use IB but not actively trading the real account. Trading the paper account.
[10:34:05] <@wrbtrader> In contrast, data providers (e.g. eSignal) will always charge the $65 - $75 fee to access ICE
[10:34:43] <+Fleneer> they carge me about 20 bucks a month for reeal time data. Cheap tool to gain trading experience and formulate trading strategy.
[10:35:30] <+Fleneer> I'm soon to switch to paying them commisssions so interested in the chat here regarding that for futures. Particularly the NQ and the ES
[10:40:37] <+Tigerman> I was distracted by rolland garros tennis before
[10:41:07] <+Tigerman> yep IB charge for TF also x index
[10:41:26] <+Tigerman> but now I trade only IWM and use others data provider
[10:42:04] <+Tigerman> when have time just curios if IB soved the way they collect data
[10:42:32] <+Tigerman> so I can use again multichart with IB datafeed
[10:44:59] <+StormwolfT> when was the last time you used their feed?
[11:04:27] <T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 742.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:06:03] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 741.6 --> + 0.9 «« simulator »»
[11:10:48] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[11:11:35] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 741.40 -> medium size
[11:11:45] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[11:13:05] <@wrbtrader> price action climbed but upward "inside" the range of the prior mentioned big WRB HG :(
[11:15:24] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 742 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:15:47] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 742.20 --> - 0.8
[11:16:19] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 742.4 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[11:16:31] <+Tigerman> storm no remember but I use diffrent provider and gave to pay always about 70$$
[11:17:51] <+Tigerman> my opinoin big boys traded mainly this early morning
[11:17:53] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[11:18:18] <+Tigerman> yep lets see if climb more and let us entry long
[11:22:25] <@wrbtrader> its trying
[11:25:00] <+Tigerman> Long IWM @ 74.47
[11:25:39] <+Tigerman> chase after no fill @74.43
[11:26:26] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:26:34] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 743.20 -> small size
[11:26:41] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:27:26] <+Tigerman> oh oh
[11:27:33] <@wrbtrader> key markets struggling right now to get "insync" with each other
[11:27:51] <+Tigerman> Exited all IWM Long @ 74.37 --> - 0.1
[11:28:05] <@wrbtrader> Therefore, I'm now expecting a "volatility spike" here soon...Up or Down
[11:29:23] <@wrbtrader> nasty price action...
[11:29:30] <@wrbtrader> Up then Down on the volatility spike
[11:30:08] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 742.30 --> - 0.9
[11:31:12] <@wrbtrader> two trades involving that WRB HG
[11:31:23] <+Tigerman> today seems one of those hard trading days
[11:31:33] <+Tigerman> I have to do more statistics
[11:31:42] <@wrbtrader> price action trying hard again to get below the S area of that WRB HG
[11:31:47] <+Tigerman> but seems to me friday is a worst day foe me
[11:32:09] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...I said yesterday there was "great volatility"...
[11:32:18] <+Tigerman> maybe due to big traders let floor early for weekend
[11:32:24] <@wrbtrader> that usually is followed by "crappy price action"
[11:32:51] <@wrbtrader> Thus, got to exploit the volatility of yesterday because you don't know how many days this crappy price action will last
[11:33:15] <+Tigerman> yep remember well so is better capitalize in such big volatility day right
[11:33:37] <@wrbtrader> That's why I'm NOT doing any "large size" trades today
[11:33:55] <+Tigerman> yeah crappy volatility is very difficult to trade
[11:43:26] <@wrbtrader> be back later
[11:48:43] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 742.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:57:30] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 743.2 --> - 0.9 «« simulator »»
[12:56:26] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:20:45] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 742.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:29:39] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 740.4 --> + 1.7 «« simulator »»
[13:32:03] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 739.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:32:48] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 740.3 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[14:06:15] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 73.89
[14:10:44] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 738.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:15:19] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 738.1 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[14:20:54] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 73.90 --> - 0.01
[14:21:02] <+Tigerman> lost patience
[14:21:51] <+Tigerman> wow big up spike
[14:31:54] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 740.50 -> medium size
[14:32:02] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[14:33:01] <+Tigerman> Long IWM @ 74.13
[14:33:15] <+Tigerman> this should be a good entry
[14:34:32] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still active
[14:35:09] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 IWM Long @ 74.18 --> + 0.05
[14:36:51] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 740.70 --> + 0.2
[14:38:26] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 740.70 -> small size
[14:38:37] <@wrbtrader> re-entry intuition
[14:39:38] <canaandog_> good intuition
[14:39:39] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder IWM Long @ 74.24 --> + 0.11
[14:39:40] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[14:40:01] <+Tigerman> yep that made reach my target
[14:40:25] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 741.30 --> + 0.6
[14:41:27] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:41:58] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still active
[14:44:40] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 740.6 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:47:32] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 740.7 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[15:03:05] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 738.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:06:21] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES price action stuck within the range of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1420pm est
[15:10:46] <+canaandog_> long tf 739.6 2c sim int
[15:12:08] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 740.3 --> - 1.5 «« simulator »»
[15:12:27] <+canaandog_> flat tf 739.9
[15:28:55] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 738.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:30:02] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 738 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[15:34:06] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 737.20 -> medium size
[15:34:14] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[15:35:59] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 736.9 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:36:10] <@wrbtrader> oh oh...that's odd
[15:36:37] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 737.30 --> - 0.1
[15:37:01] <@wrbtrader> sideline...got some data problems
[15:37:23] <+StormwolfT> not seeing any valid signals in my data
[15:37:42] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[15:37:52] <@wrbtrader> hopefully I can get a re-entry
[15:38:24] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 73.80
[15:39:38] <@wrbtrader> doesn't look like its going to retrace for a re-entry
[15:39:45] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:40:24] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 736.8 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[15:40:43] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 IWM Short @ 73.75 --> + 0.05
[15:40:57] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 737.00 -> large size
[15:41:02] <@wrbtrader> 3+3
[15:41:08] <@wrbtrader> re-entry intuition
[15:41:43] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 736.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:41:54] <@wrbtrader> bouncing around now
[15:43:05] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 736.80 --> + 0.2
[15:43:16] <@wrbtrader> it was a good try...
[15:43:20] <@wrbtrader> price action stalling
[15:43:52] <@wrbtrader> that's that strange volatility I mentioned for the past several weeks
[15:44:59] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[15:45:24] <@wrbtrader> Kye markets NOT insync...
[15:45:36] <@wrbtrader> I'm now expecting a volatility spike here soon (Up or Down)
[15:46:57] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 737.1 --> - 0.8 «« simulator »»
[15:46:57] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder IWM Short @ 73.80 --> 0
[15:49:03] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 736.90 -> medium size
[15:49:13] <@wrbtrader> re-entry intuition
[15:49:24] <@wrbtrader> one more try at that Creeper Down Movement
[15:49:30] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:54:32] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 73.81
[15:55:29] <@wrbtrader> spiked again...this time Down then Up
[15:57:09] <@wrbtrader> tight trading range in the 4pm est rush hour traffic = crappy price action
[15:59:37] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 736.80 --> + 0.1
[15:59:48] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 73,79 --> + 73.81 - 73,79
[15:59:52] <@wrbtrader> another good try at it
[16:00:08] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 73.79 --> + 0.02
[16:00:23] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 737.20 -> medium size
[16:00:30] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[16:00:36] <@wrbtrader> re-entry intuition
[16:00:41] <@wrbtrader> same price action
[16:00:48] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[16:03:07] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[16:05:05] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 736.30 --> + 0.9
[16:05:58] <@wrbtrader> It was one of those trading days :(
[16:06:22] <@wrbtrader> Yet, expected after yesterday's excellent volatility day
[16:11:27] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:17:49] <+Tigerman> take care have a safe weekend see all next week
[16:39:25] <@wrbtrader> Market looked tired today...that should setup good volatility on Monday
[16:39:35] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and have a good weekend
Session Close: Fri Jun 01 16:47:14 2012

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