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 Post subject: May 31st Thursday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Session Start: Thu May 31 09:23:01 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:23:01] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:23:01] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:24:18] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:24:36] <wave1> gm tt N
[09:24:53] <+Trendtrader> gm wave1
[09:28:09] <+Trendtrader> Long Emini TF @ 762.5 «« simulator »»
[09:28:12] <+Trendtrader> x2
[09:39:52] <+Trendtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 758.8 --> - 3.7 «« simulator »»
[09:39:54] <canaandog_> short tf 760.8 sim 3c [6:37]
[09:40:19] <+canaandog_> flat tf 759.3
[09:41:02] <+wave1> chicago PMI 9 mins
[09:41:21] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:41:43] <+canaandog_> int
[09:43:03] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[09:43:28] <Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.87
[09:43:59] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.82 --> + 0.05
[09:44:09] <+Tigerman> gm all
[09:44:14] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 757.40 -> large size
[09:44:20] <@wrbtrader> 4+2
[09:45:15] <@wrbtrader> Yesterday I got 2 messages my connection to my broker system was "slow"
[09:45:29] <@wrbtrader> I got that same message earlier this morning when I logged on.
[09:46:00] <@wrbtrader> I'm also noticing "more" no fills lately too when fills should have occured based upon the "current data"
[09:46:12] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.82
[09:46:18] <+canaandog_> not good
[09:46:40] <@wrbtrader> Simply, I'm now wondering if the price is much "further away" than shown when I put an order in.
[09:46:55] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.78 --> + 0.04
[09:48:14] <@wrbtrader> Next week I'm going to do some ping tests in realtime every trading day for a few weeks to see if there's a "connection problm" or changes in my ISP or router
[09:49:26] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.7
[09:49:40] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.67 --> + 0.03
[09:50:14] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 755.10 --> + 2.3
[09:50:14] <+Tigerman> int this fast price action I tend to exit soon vs let the trade go
[09:50:24] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[09:50:28] <+Tigerman> good wrbtrader
[09:50:39] <@wrbtrader> nice Creeper Down Movement so far
[09:53:30] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[09:55:01] <+Tigerman> yep
[09:55:24] <+Tigerman> I am looking for another short entry
[09:57:18] <@wrbtrader> I had one but had a "no fill" on 3 contracts @ 755.20 when the price was @ 755.40
[09:57:25] <@wrbtrader> :(
[09:57:29] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.46
[09:57:41] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.44 --> + 0.02
[09:58:17] <@wrbtrader> When the volatility is this good...got to take advantage of it because it usually is followed by several trading days of "crappy price action"
[09:59:10] <+Tigerman> ok good to know
[10:04:01] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active...order in
[10:04:12] <@wrbtrader> lets see if I get another "no fill"
[10:05:17] <@wrbtrader> 753.60
[10:05:47] <@wrbtrader> I rarely have problems with fills like this...
[10:05:54] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.39
[10:05:58] <@wrbtrader> Price action currently BELOW 753.60
[10:06:16] <@wrbtrader> If it goes UPWARDS...I will get a fill
[10:06:18] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 IWM Short @ 75.36 --> + 0.03
[10:06:27] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder IWM Short @ 75.38 --> + 0.01
[10:06:27] <+canaandog_> yes- I've had under 753.3 since 10:04
[10:06:50] <+Tigerman> price moving fast indeed
[10:06:59] <@wrbtrader> My problems with "no fills" are occurrng when price action is ABOVE my order price and then declines downwards through the price for a "no fill"
[10:07:08] <+canaandog_> ah
[10:07:42] <+Tigerman> yes wrbtrader I got same probelm sometimes
[10:07:50] <+Tigerman> usually with TF
[10:08:11] <+Tigerman> now II m using small size on IWM seems better
[10:08:15] <@wrbtrader> cancelled all open limit orders
[10:10:36] <+Tigerman> missed an entry here
[10:10:53] <+Tigerman> I am tempted to chase but I prefer no chase
[10:11:34] <+Tigerman> in contrast I wait if another good signal appear
[10:11:55] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully there's another setup in this Creeper Down Movement before the "consistent volatility contraction" shows up
[10:24:56] <@wrbtrader> order in @ 750.50
[10:25:15] <@wrbtrader> price action currently ABOVE my price
[10:27:47] <@wrbtrader> looking for an early entry...I now see another setup on a different time frame
[10:28:59] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 752.20 -> small size
[10:29:04] <@wrbtrader> 2+1
[10:29:05] <+Tigerman> volaility contraction here
[10:29:08] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:31:08] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.28
[10:31:29] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.26 --> + 0.02
[10:33:11] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 751.80 --> + 0.4
[10:33:26] <@wrbtrader> lost patience
[10:33:49] <+Tigerman> yep similar mee
[10:34:09] <@wrbtrader> still watching the 750.50 for a Short entry
[10:34:09] <+Tigerman> simply when price not going weel in one direction I prefer exit
[10:34:33] <+Tigerman> yep still a short is ok
[10:34:52] <+Tigerman> price are fighting here between up or down
[10:35:19] <+Tigerman> seems up is the way they go
[10:36:33] <@wrbtrader> its trying hard to setup a Creeper UP Movement
[10:38:17] <+Tigerman> agreed
[10:40:50] <@wrbtrader> We should (hopefully) get at least one more good volatility movement before the mid-day trading session starts
[10:42:45] <@wrbtrader> Alert Reminder - Today we have the EIA Petroleum Status Report @ 1100am est...normally its on Wednesday @ 1030am est
[10:48:36] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 751.00 -> small size
[10:48:42] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[10:48:46] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:51:10] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.2
[10:51:41] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.19 --> + 0.01
[10:51:50] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 751.00 --> 0
[10:52:01] <+Tigerman> today only fast scalp for me
[10:52:16] <@wrbtrader> it ht that support area hard down around 750.70 but couldn't stay below
[10:52:22] <+Tigerman> is not planned :)
[10:53:41] <+Tigerman> wrbtrader do you follow roland garros ?
[10:53:51] <@wrbtrader> Oil CL futures Creeper Down Movement still active
[10:54:12] <@wrbtrader> don't know a Garros but I know a few Roland's :)
[10:54:24] <+Tigerman> I mean tennis match playng now
[10:55:03] <+Tigerman> yep also 6E euro future
[10:55:10] <@wrbtrader> Ahhh...
[10:55:44] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I follow the women ATP sometimes (Italian Open, French Open and Wimbledon)
[10:56:50] <+Tigerman> right now 2 women play li an another from france
[10:57:24] <+Tigerman> simply not easy trade and try to look at tennis :)
[10:57:37] <@wrbtrader> probably Gacon from France
[10:58:32] <+Tigerman> is written for I do not know
[10:58:46] <+Tigerman> I have to check on site
[10:59:02] <+Tigerman> but the chinese li have 2 match ball right now
[10:59:25] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[11:00:07] <@wrbtrader> Emini YM and Oil CL futures in an active Creeper Down Movement
[11:00:23] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 751.60 -> small size
[11:00:29] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[11:02:06] <+Tigerman> yep right foretz gacon loss from li
[11:03:20] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.17
[11:03:38] <+Tigerman> Covered 1/2 IWM Short @ 75.14 --> + 0.03
[11:03:52] <+Tigerman> Covered Remainder IWM Short @ 75.16 --> + 0.01
[11:04:11] <+Tigerman> no have patience to hang on more today :)
[11:05:08] <+Tigerman> wow big spike down on euro
[11:05:24] <+Tigerman> no good for my currency account :(
[11:05:48] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 750.10 --> + 1.5
[11:05:51] <+Tigerman> I almost try a short on forex :)
[11:05:52] <T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 750.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:06:02] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:06:33] <+Tigerman> and big very high volume on spike down in euro
[11:06:50] <+Tigerman> I suspect no good news from euro meeting
[11:06:59] <+Tigerman> or speack
[11:07:13] <+Tigerman> therfe are many one every hour
[11:07:29] <@wrbtrader> At least all the key markets are in sync right now...
[11:07:48] <+Tigerman> yep everything is downhill :)
[11:07:56] <@wrbtrader> That makes trading easy regardless if trading the Eurex, Eminis, Oil or Euro
[11:08:44] <+Tigerman> yep this is the best condition for trading
[11:09:57] <+Tigerman> infact VIX and company are going higher every day
[11:10:50] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 750.8 --> - 0.7 «« simulator »»
[11:16:19] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.13
[11:16:36] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.18 --> - 0.05
[11:19:09] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 75.15
[11:19:25] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 75.12 --> + 0.03
[11:20:45] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 750.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:24:47] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 751.4 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[11:26:22] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:43:59] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 753.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:49:14] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 752.6 --> - 1.2 «« simulator »»
[12:56:22] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:16:17] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 759.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:25:48] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 757.6 --> - 1.9 «« simulator »»
[13:41:45] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 757.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:52:48] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 755.2 --> + 1.9 «« simulator »»
[14:03:32] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 754.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:03:40] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 755.6 --> - 0.9 «« simulator »»
[14:22:39] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 756.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:25:13] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 756.7 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[14:26:23] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:30:41] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 756.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:33:43] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 757.8 --> - 1.4 «« simulator »»
[14:33:51] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 757.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:45:41] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still active
[14:46:36] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 758.20 -> small size
[14:46:43] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[14:47:11] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 757.9 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[14:50:34] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 757.50 --> - 0.7
[14:52:06] <@wrbtrader> price action of Emini TF getting closer to the S area of the WRB HG @ 1432pm est
[14:52:15] <@wrbtrader> ooops...its there now
[14:56:14] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 756.80 -> small size
[14:56:22] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[14:57:33] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached via volatility spike
[14:58:14] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 757.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:58:35] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 757.80 --> + 1
[15:00:41] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 757.8 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[15:05:19] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 757.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:08:34] <@wrbtrader> T4n...nice entry...I was too slow to grab it
[15:08:52] <+T4n_paper> we'll see how it works out
[15:08:55] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 757.80 -> small size
[15:09:01] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[15:09:08] <@wrbtrader> chasing
[15:09:29] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:09:58] <@wrbtrader> be back in a little while...got some at home distractions right now
[15:10:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 758.50 --> + 0.7
[15:10:21] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[15:13:58] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 759.4 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[15:15:23] <@wrbtrader_away> Hey all...I'm done for the day...need to take care of something personal.
[15:15:41] <@wrbtrader_away> Overall good volatility today and a nice ending to the month of May.
[15:15:57] <@wrbtrader_away> See all next month in June (tomorrow).
[15:17:29] <Fleneer> crazy marklet today.
[15:17:31] <+T4n_paper> seeya
[15:17:52] <+Fleneer> You want a day to show trading is a real high risk price action.... this is one of them.
[15:18:12] <+T4n_paper> wow, thought it was friday :/
[15:28:17] <+Tigerman> Long IWM @ 76.32
[15:28:37] <+Tigerman> strong up move
[15:30:38] <+Tigerman> Exited 1/2 IWM Long @ 76.37 --> + 0.05
[15:32:35] <+Tigerman> Exited Remainder IWM Long @ 76.39 --> + 0.07
[15:32:54] <+Tigerman> not confident price can rise more
[15:41:09] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 764 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:44:32] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 763.4 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[15:52:31] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 760.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:55:38] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 761.2 --> - 1 «« simulator »»
[15:56:23] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:58:18] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 760.6 -> small size «« simulator »»
[16:00:28] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 759.7 --> - 0.9 «« simulator »»
[16:30:49] <+Tigerman> take care see all tomorrow
Session Close: Thur May 31 16:37:34 2012

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