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 Post subject: April 10th Tuesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:27 pm 
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Session Start: Tue Apr 10 08:19:10 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:19:10] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:02:28] <wave1> gm all
[09:30:50] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:31:23] <+wave1> gm
[09:31:33] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:35:18] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 799 «« simulator »»
[09:36:25] <@wrbtrader> Post-break, Spain yields resume march higher (MarketWatch) @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/post-b ... 2012-04-10
[09:38:51] <+wave1> y
[09:38:59] <+wave1> troubling europe
[09:39:07] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 80.04
[09:39:11] <+Tigerman> intuition
[09:39:41] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 80.01 --> + 0.03
[09:39:59] <+Tigerman> small size in that trade
[09:41:05] <+Tigerman> price bouncing here not a clear direction
[09:41:21] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 800.00 -> large size
[09:41:56] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[09:42:11] <@wrbtrader> no fill @ 799.60
[09:43:03] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 799.90 --> - 0.1
[09:43:09] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 800 -> Add «« simulator »»
Session Close: Tue Apr 10 09:46:27 2012 (error disconnection)
Session Start: Tue Apr 10 09:52:29 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:52:29] * Disconnected
[09:57:38] <wrbtrader> be back in
[09:58:05] * Attempting to rejoin channel #FuturesTrades
[09:58:16] * Rejoined channel #FuturesTrades
[09:58:16] <X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:58:32] <Tigerman> hello seems chat have server problem
[09:59:38] <Trendtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 796.9 --> + 2.1 «« simulator »»
[09:59:44] <@wrbtrader> Yes...the Othernet server are currently having problems and going through maintenance period to fix the problems...happens about once every few months.
[10:00:06] <+Trendtrader> Sorry, lost connection and couldn't get it back.
[10:00:55] <+wave1> wholesale #a
[10:01:32] <+wave1> +0.5% was exp
[10:02:05] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[10:02:37] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 797.30 -> large size
[10:03:48] <@wrbtrader> big WRB pt1 1 reached...thanks to the 1000am est key market events
[10:04:27] <Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 79.77
[10:04:46] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 79.69 --> + 0.08
[10:05:08] <@wrbtrader> Covered 2/3 Emini TF Short @ 794.70 --> + 2.6
[10:05:14] <+Tigerman> too distracted from server problen to post faster here :(
[10:05:28] <+Tigerman> also a delayed entry
[10:05:32] <@wrbtrader> You can still post while not on a server...
[10:05:59] <+Tigerman> 79.85 IWM was planned
[10:06:08] <@wrbtrader> Just post the trade and then re-copy it with the timestamp whenever you get re-logged in.
[10:06:35] <+Trendtrader> thx wrb, good to know.
[10:06:43] <+wave1> geea missed try NQ S 49 if can
[10:06:49] <+wave1> 40\
[10:06:51] <+Tigerman> yep thanks
[10:09:16] <+wave1> S nq
[10:10:08] <+wave1> 40
[10:11:23] <+wave1> out +2.5
[10:11:36] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still intact
[10:16:08] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt2 reached
[10:16:25] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 792.80 --> + 4.5
[10:16:30] <@wrbtrader> Holding 1 contract remainder
[10:16:36] <+Tigerman> very good
[10:17:19] <@wrbtrader> Good volatility today ONLY because the Europeans are no longer on vacation...
[10:17:38] <@wrbtrader> Yesterday was a "Bank Holiday" for them that had followed the Easter Holiday
[10:18:11] <+Tigerman> yes traders are back after holiday
[10:18:22] <markg557> well i saw trend line on esmini
[10:18:23] <+Tigerman> friday in US monday in EU
[10:18:31] <+markg557> wich was not on vacation
[10:18:39] <+markg557> and i triggered the sell
[10:19:31] <@wrbtrader> Canada's institutional traders will be back on Wednesday or Thursday...
[10:20:19] <@wrbtrader> Most of the school systems are still on Easter Holiday...returns back to school on Thursday.
[10:20:57] <@wrbtrader> Thus, most institutional traders here in Canada that have "kids"...use this time as a long vacation.
[10:21:25] <@wrbtrader> I have 2 institutional friends with kids...their still on vacation.
[10:21:56] <+Tigerman> good to know x safety I consider with suspect the days before and after big holidays
[10:22:44] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...that's the main reason why I don't push it hard the first trading day after the U.S. Easter Holiday...
[10:23:11] <@wrbtrader> I know most of the European institutions and Canadian institutions are still on vacation...
[10:23:20] <@wrbtrader> That's a ton of missing volatility from the markets.
[10:23:56] <+markg557> i am not on vacation
[10:24:01] <@wrbtrader> I was small position size only in yesterday's "lack of volatility" trading session
[10:24:05] <+markg557> but when you are short i am short
[10:24:20] <+markg557> we need those who are long when we are short
[10:24:35] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still intact
[10:24:57] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1002am est
[10:25:10] <@wrbtrader> in Emini TF
[10:25:32] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1014am est via RUT index
[10:25:52] <@wrbtrader> Good profit targets whenever someone decides to go Long
[10:26:08] <@wrbtrader> good source of stop management too
[10:29:46] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 793.70 --> + 3.6
[10:30:39] <+wave1> wd
[10:31:05] <@wrbtrader> thought I would catch a runner on that remainder...
[10:31:10] <@wrbtrader> wasn't meant to be
[10:33:00] <+wave1> looks like the move is over
[10:33:04] <+wave1> down
[10:38:27] <@wrbtrader> The weekly and daily charts of the major indexes are still BEARISH (DAX, CAC40, FTSE100, TSX, DOW, S&P, RUT and others)
Session Close: Tue Apr 10 10:39:24 2012 (error disconnection)
Session Start: Tue Apr 10 10:39:24 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[10:39:24] * Disconnected
[10:40:58] * Attempting to rejoin channel #FuturesTrades
[10:41:07] * Rejoined channel #FuturesTrades
[10:41:08] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[10:50:01] <+wave1> geez careful to S NQ
[10:51:36] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[11:09:23] <@wrbtrader> U.S. February job openings rise to 3.5 million (Reuters) @ http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... SD20120410
[11:12:32] <@wrbtrader> $6E_F futures and $EURUSD currency have WRB Hidden GAPs involved as a swing point @ 1048am est...price action trading currently in a Creeper Down Movement.
[11:12:48] <@wrbtrader> Emini futures increasing volatility
[11:15:37] <+wave1> looks like trend finally turned down .
[11:16:19] <@wrbtrader> You must be talking about the weekly and daily charts...I agree
[11:16:41] <@wrbtrader> Ever since...more failed counter-thrusts on the intraday charts
[11:17:41] <+wave1> yes was lookg at daily
[11:19:07] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 788.70 -> small size
[11:19:20] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[11:19:51] <Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 79.01
[11:21:21] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:21:30] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 78.96 --> + 0.05
[11:21:54] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 787.50 --> + 1.2
[11:22:02] <+Tigerman> not have the patience to wait ,anyway exited in profit
[11:22:37] <+Tigerman> I mean wait x a better profit like that last spike in my favor
[11:23:39] <@wrbtrader> FYI - Othernet still having server problems...chat rooms still may get disconnected. Thus, there's nothing wrong with your ISP or computer...problem is the Othernet servers.
[11:25:02] <+wave1> k thks N
[11:25:44] <StormwolfT> I'm wondering which CPUs you guys use. I'm thinking of buying a six core but I'm not sure I even need that much
[11:26:33] <@wrbtrader> Go with the overkill :)
[11:26:48] <@wrbtrader> seriously...you won't need it today but you may need it next year
[11:29:12] <+StormwolfT> when I open everything I use my CPU is still not being used fully. My RAM almost maxes out but CPU seem to be fine. I have a Intel core 2 duo 2ghz
[11:31:04] <@wrbtrader> support trying to develop
[11:44:28] <+wave1> k guys c u all later ty
[11:44:32] <+wave1> back to office
[11:44:49] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 786.60 -> small size
[11:44:54] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:46:07] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 786.80 -> Add
[11:46:31] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract add...priced @ the entry I had wanted for the prior contract
[11:47:52] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 78.81
[11:48:14] <@wrbtrader> trying to develop into a shallow pt1 if it gets there :(
[11:48:24] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 78.79 --> + 0.02
[11:49:46] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[11:49:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini TF Short @ 786.00 --> + 0.8
[11:50:28] <+Tigerman> good wrbtrader also this time not have the patience to wait x a decent target :(
[11:51:25] <+Tigerman> this relate to the fear in trading in past low volatillity days
[11:51:47] <+Tigerman> simply I exited early for the fear they shake me out soon
[11:51:55] <markg557> 6375 ill be flat on es
[11:52:06] <+markg557> flat from short and done
[11:52:09] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt2 reached
[11:52:12] <+Tigerman> in contrast in a better volatility as today maybe a more patience pay off :)
[11:52:28] <@wrbtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 783.90 --> + 2.7
[11:52:35] <+Tigerman> good
[12:17:20] <+Tigerman> sell off continue
[12:17:42] <+Tigerman> long time not see this kind of move
[12:17:55] <+Tigerman> a good volatility day at last !
[12:49:30] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...as soon as you said that "good volatility" comment...the volatility flatlined :)
[12:49:54] <@wrbtrader> knock on wood next please :)
[12:50:56] <@wrbtrader> Oil CL futures currently testing the S area of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1226pm est
[12:59:25] <+Tigerman> wrbtrader is ok x me to alert when volatility rise again
[12:59:53] <+Tigerman> I think I knock on wood on last 2 hours :)
[13:00:35] <@wrbtrader> ok :)
[13:01:06] <+Tigerman> lunch time now have a nice lunch :)
[13:07:29] <@wrbtrader> FYI - Yesterday's archive chat logs posted @ viewtopic.php?f=103&t=1189
[13:07:44] <T4n_paper> Long TF @ 784.9 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:08:52] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 784.4 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[13:14:36] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF price action trying hard to close above the S area of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1258pm est
[13:15:15] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 783.80 -> small size
[13:15:21] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[13:19:03] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 782.90 --> - 0.9
[13:19:03] <@wrbtrader> Reverse and Enter Short Emini TF @ 782.90
[13:19:11] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 783 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:19:33] <@wrbtrader> S area taken out via a WRB
[13:19:39] <@wrbtrader> volatility still low
[13:19:43] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 782.7 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »»
[13:20:33] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[13:20:50] <@wrbtrader> knock on wood - volatility increasing now
[13:22:09] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 782.20 --> + 0.7
[13:27:06] <@wrbtrader> German Two-Year Note Yield Drops Below Japan’s for First Time (Bloomberg) @ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-1 ... -time.html
[13:28:54] <@wrbtrader> Oil CL futures fighting a Creeper Down Movement
[13:30:25] <@wrbtrader> Top Forecasters See Euro Weakness Returning on Spain (Bloomberg) @ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-1 ... spain.html
[13:34:08] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 782.80 -> small size
[13:34:16] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[13:34:39] <@wrbtrader> Oil CL futures still trying hard at that Creeper Down Movement
[13:34:41] <+T4n_paper> over analyzed
[13:36:26] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached but missed my exit price
[13:37:23] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[13:37:43] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 782.30 --> + 0.5
[13:45:24] <@wrbtrader> The way Gold GC futures have been "strong uptrend" since 1220pm est...must be due to people running to it as a safety net with the Eurozone negative information today
[14:01:30] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 783.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:01:34] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 783.7 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:03:29] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 783.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:03:57] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 782.8 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[14:25:02] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 783.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:30:07] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 784.2 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[14:54:29] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF has a WRB Hidden GAP @ 1432pm est
[15:13:35] <@wrbtrader> FRAN3005...you having server problems or computer problems with your connection to the Othernet ?
[15:17:05] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 780.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:17:20] <+T4n_paper> last trade
[15:18:30] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 780.7 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[15:18:40] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 780.90 -> small size
[15:18:48] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:19:34] <@wrbtrader> some volatility showed up
[15:20:06] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 781.50 --> - 0.6
[15:20:14] <@wrbtrader> a little choppy too
[15:23:53] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 781.60 -> small size
[15:24:00] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:24:03] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[15:26:21] <@wrbtrader> choppy again
[15:27:01] <@wrbtrader> could be showing us what the 3:45pm - 4:00pm est rush hour traffic will be like - "increasing volatility with chop"
[15:27:33] <+Tigerman> increase volatility is ok the chop is not welcomed by me :(
[15:27:45] <@wrbtrader> strongly agree
[15:28:01] <@wrbtrader> Chop cause me more fear than any other type of price action
[15:28:45] <+Tigerman> yep shake us again back and forth
[15:28:51] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[15:29:34] <@wrbtrader> Covered Emini TF Short @ 781.00 --> + 0.6
[15:29:41] <@wrbtrader> churn :(
[15:34:37] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 782.10 -> small size
[15:34:44] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:35:21] <@wrbtrader> killer chop
[15:37:54] <@wrbtrader> FYI - As a reminder, I also post real-time price action analysis (not trades) on twitter or stocktwits.
[15:38:39] <@wrbtrader> sometimes I use a special script for such that post to mIRC, twitter and stocktwits via the same message...
[15:39:10] <@wrbtrader> Unfortunately it shows up about 15 seconds late to mIRC while almost real-time on twitter and stocktwits
[15:40:26] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 (shallow) reached
[15:40:36] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 782.50 --> + 0.4
[15:41:00] <@wrbtrader> didn't want to hang around too long with this chop after reaching a WRB profit target
[15:41:36] <@wrbtrader> Also, didn't see any possibility for a WRB pt2 on that trade
[15:42:45] <@wrbtrader> bullish price action still while the S area of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1530pm est is still providing support
[15:49:22] <@wrbtrader> Rush Hour Traffic...
[15:49:28] <@wrbtrader> so far just chop :(
[15:55:59] <@wrbtrader> support trying hard to develop again if it can get back about the S area of the recently mentioned WRB Hidden GAP
[15:57:04] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 781.90 -> small size
[15:57:10] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[15:58:15] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[15:59:08] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[16:00:45] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[16:01:12] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[16:01:32] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 782.50 --> + 0.6
[16:01:42] <+Tigerman> good wrbtrader seems you catch the last spike of the session :)
[16:08:32] <@wrbtrader> I wish...
[16:09:10] <@wrbtrader> I got a distraction at the wrong time...didn't want to hang around with a Long position too Long.
[16:09:26] <@wrbtrader> kids came back home 30 mins earlier :(
[16:09:42] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow
[16:11:22] <+Tigerman> I end x today trading take care all and see all tomorrow
Session Closed

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