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 Post subject: March 27th Tuesday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:42 pm 
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#FuturesTrades chat room is not a signal calling chat room. Therefore, do not attempt to mimic the trades of other members. Also, if we suspect you've joined #FuturesTrades to try to use it as a signal call chat room in an effort to piggy back (mimic) someone's trades, you will be banned...no exceptions.

#FuturesTrades is designed to be only a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day and this gives them a better understanding of their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day. In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries about the price action on their monitors.

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Session Start: Tue Mar 27 07:25:54 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[07:25:54] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[07:25:54] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[08:24:14] <wave1> gm all
[08:35:53] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:14:10] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:15:15] <+Trendtrader> Long Emini TF @ 845.3 «« simulator »»
[09:16:32] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all
[09:17:47] <markg557> hi
[09:19:24] <+wave1> gm N
[09:22:42] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:31:47] <+Trendtrader> Long Emini TF @ 844.3 -> Add «« simulator »»
[09:35:05] <@wrbtrader> Euro-zone needs 1 trilllion euro firewall: OECD @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/euro-z ... 2012-03-27
[09:35:35] <+Tigerman> no problem we can print
[09:36:39] <@wrbtrader> :)
[09:38:00] <@wrbtrader> Key market events today @ 1000am, 1245pm, 1545pm est
[09:48:19] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 845.40 -> small size
[09:48:26] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[09:48:36] <@wrbtrader> want this one back but will hold
[09:48:54] <@wrbtrader> had an entry problem @ 844.60
[09:49:10] <+Trendtrader> Exited 3/4 Emini TF Long @ 845.6 --> + 1.3 «« simulator »»
[09:49:12] <@wrbtrader> If it retraces without reaching a WRB pt1...
[09:49:26] <@wrbtrader> That 844.60 will be a re-entry price I'll be looking for
[09:49:46] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[09:50:10] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 845.10 --> - 0.3
[09:50:58] <+Trendtrader> exit stop moved to breakeven Emini TF @ 844.4 «« simulator »»
[09:51:09] <+Trendtrader> BE+1
[09:57:12] <+Trendtrader> exit stop set Emini TF @ 844.8 «« simulator »»
[09:58:57] <@wrbtrader> lots of long shadows...up and down
[10:00:16] <+Trendtrader> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 844.9 --> - 0.4 «« simulator »»
[10:00:42] <+Trendtrader> +0.6
[10:00:46] <+Tigerman> wow big spike down
[10:00:59] <+Tigerman> seems news disappointing
[10:01:20] <@wrbtrader> hope the volatility continues rising
[10:01:33] <+Tigerman> yhep that s matters
[10:01:58] <+markg557> hope you wont call intuition trades
[10:03:29] <@wrbtrader> hope you post your trades
[10:03:52] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 843.70 -> large size
[10:04:29] <@wrbtrader> this is close to a support area if it ever reaches a WRB pt1
[10:05:01] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:05:22] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 84.40
[10:05:38] <@wrbtrader> price action trying hard to climb down the Long Lower Shadow of the 1000am est key market event interval
[10:05:52] <@wrbtrader> trailing @ profit
[10:05:54] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:06:26] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached near/at support
[10:07:07] <@wrbtrader> along with being within the range of WRB Hidden GAP @ 1558pm est yesterday's price action
[10:07:32] <+wave1> wd N
[10:07:38] <+wave1> geez L bias here
[10:07:55] <@wrbtrader> had I shorter 2 ticks earlier as planned @ 843.90
[10:08:02] <@wrbtrader> trade would not have been intuition
[10:08:30] <@wrbtrader> still testing the support area
[10:08:36] <@wrbtrader> tighten trail
[10:08:58] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 84.34 --> + 0.06
[10:09:08] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 842.80 --> + 0.9
[10:09:27] <+markg557> your posts are very late
[10:09:30] <+markg557> wrbtrader
[10:09:48] <@wrbtrader> You may have a delay in seeing the posts.
[10:10:29] <@wrbtrader> Only delays I know of is the Denver and Fremont servers
[10:10:34] <@wrbtrader> Other servers are normal
[10:10:57] <@wrbtrader> Warren, Miami and Firewall servers are normal this morning
[10:11:17] <@wrbtrader> I myself had a 30 second delay on Fremont server...
[10:11:32] <@wrbtrader> It prompt me to switch earlier this morning
[10:11:57] <@wrbtrader> Simply, change your server :)
[10:12:08] <+markg557> by moving to utah?
[10:12:18] <+markg557> or alabama?
[10:12:53] <@wrbtrader> The server change instructions is in the same message post where you've registered at the FTCHAT Support Forum
[10:13:17] <@wrbtrader> Same location where you got the password whenever the room becomes "password protected"
[10:14:09] <@wrbtrader> Any server more than 5 second delay should be switched
[10:15:17] <@wrbtrader> I say that because with a "normal" 5 seconde server delay + the typical 5 second trade post delay...
[10:15:32] <@wrbtrader> You shouldn't see trades more than 10 seconds after the fact.
[10:16:08] <+markg557> i see 5 tick after the fact since i joined this room
[10:16:22] <@wrbtrader> That's normal
[10:16:39] <@wrbtrader> Just as long as its 10 seconds or less on the server ping
[10:18:35] <@wrbtrader> Simply, the script is NOT "instant"
[10:19:17] <@wrbtrader> unless you're using a dll file with TS that post instant changes to IRC.
[10:19:36] <@wrbtrader> I have a old script for such but I no longer use TS (tradestation broker)
[10:19:53] <@wrbtrader> It also crashes the IRC or broker platform "sometimes" :(
[10:20:13] <@wrbtrader> Therefore, post your trades "manually" to prevent any problems
[10:21:00] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1012am est
[10:25:23] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 843.40 -> small size
[10:25:33] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:25:42] <+markg557> 6 tick delay
[10:25:45] <@wrbtrader> lowering the position size
[10:26:02] <@wrbtrader> near/at support
[10:26:26] <@wrbtrader> I have a 2 tick delay
[10:26:45] <@wrbtrader> now 3 ticks
[10:26:56] <@wrbtrader> 1 tick
[10:27:10] <@wrbtrader> 4 ticks
[10:27:25] <@wrbtrader> 2 ticks
[10:27:37] <@wrbtrader> 5 ticks
[10:27:56] <@wrbtrader> 3 ticks
[10:28:23] <@wrbtrader> 1 tick
[10:28:42] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[10:29:05] <@wrbtrader> 5 ticks
[10:29:27] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 842.90 --> + 0.5
[10:29:34] <@wrbtrader> 2 tick delay
[10:29:56] <@wrbtrader> 4 tick delay
[10:30:09] <@wrbtrader> 3 ticks
[10:30:29] <@wrbtrader> 2 ticks
[10:30:37] <@wrbtrader> 3 ticks
[10:30:58] <@wrbtrader> I would say anything over 3 tick delay is not normal...
[10:31:38] <@wrbtrader> Either ISP stalls, broker stalls or IRC ping stall
[10:32:41] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1024am est
[10:33:44] <+Tigerman> interesting what do you measure with this tick ?
[10:34:00] <+Tigerman> delay between post vs what?
[10:34:16] <+Tigerman> meanwhile my platform crashed :(
[10:34:19] <+Tigerman> reboot now
[10:35:02] <+markg557> market went up for 5 tick against you what prevent you not to stop the trade
[10:35:02] <+markg557> ?
[10:35:08] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...I measure it between my two computers that you know I'm using
[10:35:24] <@wrbtrader> I only have IRC on one computer...not the other.
[10:35:44] <@wrbtrader> Broker platform on the other.
[10:35:54] <+Tigerman> yes me too
[10:35:59] <@wrbtrader> YOu need to change your IRC from minutes to seconds Log.
[10:36:23] <@wrbtrader> Thus, if you see your logs in minutes...you need to go into the options and change it to seconds
[10:36:26] <+Tigerman> yes now I have H:M:S
[10:36:32] <@wrbtrader> exactly
[10:36:58] <@wrbtrader> Next...everytime someone writes a commentary in here or yourself...
[10:37:25] <@wrbtrader> Look at the time of your broker quotes (not your charting program) and compare it to the seconds shown in the logs
[10:37:48] <@wrbtrader> If they are different (they should be)...there's a delay in the time of IRC and your broker.
[10:38:14] <@wrbtrader> You can then count the ticks between the delay after you post whatever or someone else.
[10:38:32] <@wrbtrader> The delay should INCREASE during volatility
[10:38:53] <@wrbtrader> That's because nobody has the ability to count faster than the quotes :)
[10:39:34] <@wrbtrader> [10:35:02] <+markg557> market went up for 5 tick against you what prevent you not to stop the trade
[10:39:43] <@wrbtrader> I wasn't at a WRB target
[10:39:53] <@wrbtrader> It was close...I think about 3 ticks away
[10:42:17] <+Tigerman> test delay
[10:42:22] <+markg557> wrb
[10:42:26] <+markg557> my question
[10:42:35] <+markg557> why do you post the trade if you know we have 5 tick delay
[10:42:42] <+Tigerman> test
[10:42:42] <+markg557> what is the reason to post then?
[10:42:58] <+Tigerman> test
[10:43:10] <+Tigerman> test
[10:43:14] <@wrbtrader> If we don't post anything...the room is silent or we can talk about Hilary Clinton :)
[10:43:19] <+Tigerman> 0 sec
[10:43:30] <srinim> test
[10:43:32] <+Tigerman> test
[10:43:36] <+Tigerman> 1sec
[10:43:48] <+Tigerman> test
[10:43:57] <+Tigerman> 1sec
[10:44:06] <+Tigerman> ts
[10:44:15] <+Tigerman> to me seems good
[10:44:23] <+Tigerman> is fast
[10:44:33] <+Tigerman> warren server
[10:44:34] <@wrbtrader> Yep
[10:45:42] <@wrbtrader> Case-Shiller: Home prices fall in January @ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/case-s ... 2012-03-27
[10:46:00] <@wrbtrader> retesting that support area again
[10:46:19] <@wrbtrader> meant...it's below that support area but quickly goes back above it
[10:46:49] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 843.30 -> small size
[10:46:55] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:47:07] <+markg557> 9 tik delay post
[10:47:08] <+markg557> lolol
[10:47:21] <@wrbtrader> 3 tick
[10:47:48] <@wrbtrader> I shorted @ 843.30 while my tick delay showed 842.60
[10:48:09] <+markg557> 7 tik delay then
[10:48:27] <@wrbtrader> still 3 tick here
[10:48:59] <@wrbtrader> 5 tick
[10:49:07] <@wrbtrader> 1 tick
[10:50:18] <+Tigerman> contracting price now
[10:50:26] <@wrbtrader> yep
[10:50:33] <@wrbtrader> things slowing down dramatically
[10:50:51] <@wrbtrader> we're not that far away from the price of the open too
[10:51:05] <@wrbtrader> lots of shadows today...that's choppiness
[10:51:21] <@wrbtrader> or bouncing around but it hasn't been that bad so far
[10:51:32] <@wrbtrader> 7 tick delay
[10:51:38] <@wrbtrader> on the spike
[10:51:40] <@wrbtrader> now...
[10:51:43] <@wrbtrader> 1 tick delay
[10:51:48] <+markg557> ok nevermind
[10:52:02] <+markg557> i feel like it i am wasting my time just to look at those trade posts
[10:52:29] <@wrbtrader> You can just read the other stuff that's posted...
[10:52:35] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 84.26
[10:52:38] <@wrbtrader> Here's one that I just read...
[10:53:00] <+Tigerman> volat increase hope continue down :)
[10:53:41] <@wrbtrader> White House: Jobs recovery isn't 'statistical fluke' @ http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/27/news/ec ... ?iid=HP_LN
[10:55:50] <+wave1> give up ...only +ve did not take L on pb
[10:55:52] <@wrbtrader> still WRB pt1 level
[10:56:29] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1050am est Emini TF
[10:57:12] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1052am est EuroFX 6E and Forex EurUsd
[10:58:12] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAPs @ 1040am and 1050am est Light Crude Oil CL futures
[10:58:37] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement CL futures
[10:58:55] <@wrbtrader> 2 tick delay in CL futures
[10:59:35] <@wrbtrader> 0 tick delay in EuroFX 6E futures...
[10:59:45] <@wrbtrader> Only because my data just stopped :)
[11:00:51] <+Tigerman> Wrbtrader Fuzemeeting should fix any problem in delay
[11:01:08] <+Tigerman> or add other issue more :)
[11:01:09] <@wrbtrader> BINGO...that's why we'll be switching to it :)
[11:01:19] <+markg557> why dont you use mikogo
[11:01:26] <+markg557> put up your dome there
[11:01:37] <+markg557> and we can see what action on your accountyou are taking
[11:01:40] <+markg557> no delay gurantee
[11:01:45] <@wrbtrader> I prefer to put it up on FUZE meeting...
[11:01:45] <+markg557> and no need no posting
[11:01:46] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 84.24 --> + 0.02
[11:01:54] <@wrbtrader> That way EVERYBODY has to do the same :)
[11:02:07] <@wrbtrader> Those that won't...can't get in.
[11:02:20] <+Tigerman> About Fuze is working only in apple network?
[11:02:34] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 842.00 --> + 1.3
[11:02:55] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...I'm not sure.
[11:02:56] <+markg557> i personaly dont need to read anyhting but trades
[11:02:58] <@wrbtrader> Good question
[11:03:00] <+markg557> buy sell all day
[11:03:22] <+wave1> how does fuze works?
[11:03:31] <+Tigerman> because no problem x my side get an ipad
[11:03:47] <+Tigerman> what I wonder how to share my desktop
[11:03:51] <+wave1> N so u pst charts on it ?
[11:04:01] <@wrbtrader> No...
[11:04:08] <@wrbtrader> I don't have time to post charts.
[11:04:15] <+Tigerman> I mean I have trading desktop on PC
[11:04:22] <+wave1> geez this technology beats me every time
[11:04:30] <@wrbtrader> By the time I post a chart...it'll be 10mins to 15mins AFTER the fact
[11:04:35] <+markg557> wrb trader
[11:04:39] <+markg557> you can put mikogo
[11:04:43] <+wave1> lol y that is waht i mean ..
[11:04:46] <@wrbtrader> Instead...will just allow members to see each other screen window
[11:04:46] <+markg557> and we can you dont have to type anyyting
[11:04:48] <+wave1> so waht is the diff
[11:05:05] <+markg557> on mikogo we will see all your trades
[11:05:15] <@wrbtrader> markg557...Fuze is better than mikogo
[11:05:20] <+markg557> and we can see if trades are good or not
[11:05:36] <@wrbtrader> Yet, fuze is more expensive (for me)
[11:05:40] <+wave1> so it allows folks to see charts?
[11:06:03] <@wrbtrader> wave1...fuzemeeting is not a charting program :)
[11:06:16] <@wrbtrader> It's a "true collaboration" program
[11:06:34] <+wave1> y s it allows others to charts or trading platform?
[11:06:42] <T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 841.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:06:45] <@wrbtrader> You setup "whiteboard" to see exactly what's on others monitors.
[11:06:57] <@wrbtrader> You can do video chat if you want
[11:07:04] <@wrbtrader> You can do text if you want
[11:07:07] <+Tigerman> wrbtrader but x sharing our platform Fuze needs to install on PC if trading platform is there or not?
[11:07:09] <+wave1> i c.
[11:07:15] <@wrbtrader> You can do audio if you want
[11:07:20] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 841.5 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[11:07:38] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...you need to install Fuze to share like that.
[11:08:01] <@wrbtrader> If you don't install...you'll only be able to text, audio and video only
[11:08:08] <@wrbtrader> No whiteboard I think
[11:08:10] <@wrbtrader> not sure
[11:08:12] <+Tigerman> Seems the only option
[11:08:29] <+wave1> hmmm geez i will have to leave then ..
[11:08:31] <+wave1> :(
[11:08:39] <@wrbtrader> wave1...hopefully not
[11:09:25] <@wrbtrader> You can find out lots of stuff about Fuze on Youtube
[11:09:34] <@wrbtrader> http://www.youtube.com
[11:09:37] <+markg557> i d like to see real time posts
[11:09:43] <@wrbtrader> Then type in Fuzemeeting
[11:09:47] <+markg557> not 7 -9 tick delays
[11:09:56] <@wrbtrader> markg557...that's the point of moving the room
[11:10:21] <@wrbtrader> Only those can get in that allows others to see their trades, chart setups and such
[11:10:22] <+markg557> ok
[11:10:40] <@wrbtrader> IRC is too archaic for "real-time"
[11:10:54] <@wrbtrader> normal market commentaries...IRC is ok
[11:11:03] <@wrbtrader> Trade post...not really
[11:11:10] <@wrbtrader> Yet, that's not what this room is for.
[11:11:27] <@wrbtrader> It's not a signal calling room as stated about a million times in the INFO page.
[11:12:13] <@wrbtrader> Simply, if you want to see someone's DOM on Fuze...be ready to do the same or you can't get in.
[11:12:20] <+wave1> that is true ...was happy the way it is now ..easy to write ..evn if the post is a bit delayed
[11:12:29] <+Tigerman> GOOD news for all
[11:12:55] <+Tigerman> FUZE is ok to share desktop on PC
[11:13:01] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...I get rid of folks that try to use this chat room as a signal calling for the purpose of trying to mimick someone's trade.
[11:13:10] <@wrbtrader> If I catch someone trying to do that...
[11:13:26] <@wrbtrader> The long time members in here knows what I do to those I catch...
[11:13:28] <@wrbtrader> I ban them
[11:13:30] <@wrbtrader> :)
[11:13:54] <+wave1> v true if u dont take your own trades u are doomd
[11:14:03] <@wrbtrader> That's why its stated in big black BOLD letters at the INFO page...
[11:14:16] <@wrbtrader> This room is NOT suitable for signal calling
[11:14:25] <+Tigerman> yeah anyway very hard mimic trades with this delay
[11:14:31] <@wrbtrader> DO NOT attempt to mimick...you won't get the same fill.
[11:14:55] <+Tigerman> for not to speack about stop already set in platform and so on
[11:15:10] <+Tigerman> exactly
[11:15:30] <+wave1> NQ still bullish
[11:15:35] <@wrbtrader> FUZE is real-time...any delays will most likely be on the receiver side due to any limitations is thier iPad, adroid phone or any other mobile device.
[11:15:46] <@wrbtrader> The purpose for FUZE is to make this room MOBILE
[11:15:50] <+Tigerman> anyway what counts is the educational value of trading people
[11:16:07] <@wrbtrader> The other purpose if to FIX the connection problems we CONSTANTLY have in here.
[11:16:07] <+Tigerman> this room is not x educational but for trade diary
[11:16:34] <+Tigerman> nevertheless many usful tips are given here every day
[11:16:43] <@wrbtrader> About 73% of the register members can NOT even log on to #FuturesTrade on the Othernet servers.
[11:16:45] <+Tigerman> tips can improve our trading
[11:16:49] <@wrbtrader> That's ridiculous
[11:17:25] <+Tigerman> yep always wonder why register and not show up
[11:17:29] <@wrbtrader> Thus, FUZE should fix the connection problems and allow folks (including myself) to be MORE mobile.
[11:18:12] <+Tigerman> yep a grat thing I wait long time for it
[11:18:34] <+Tigerman> at this point any idea when we can start? :)
[11:19:02] <+Tigerman> I know you want get a new ipad but wait x some month after a new product
[11:20:42] <@wrbtrader> More info about Fuzemeeting @ http://www.fuzemeeting.com/
[11:21:03] <@wrbtrader> I'll keep #FuturesTrades here on Othernet IRC as a FILTER room.
[11:21:56] <+Tigerman> yep I now reading on that link
[11:21:57] <@wrbtrader> Simply, only those in here (#FuturesTrades) that have posted trades will be allowed to move to #FuturesTrades on Fuzemeeting
[11:22:08] <+Tigerman> seems ok on PC
[11:22:20] <+Tigerman> only wanna check if ok on window XP
[11:22:41] <+Tigerman> otherwise I have to upgrade
[11:23:12] <@wrbtrader> I'll lose some members that are currently in here...
[11:23:29] <+T4n_paper> <- what if your trades are terrible
[11:23:36] <@wrbtrader> I know that there are a few trading from their workplace and their jobs won't allow Fuzemeeting
[11:23:36] <+Tigerman> OK works on PC very good :)
[11:23:46] <@wrbtrader> on their networks
[11:24:19] <@wrbtrader> Yet, the positive is that we'll become available for all those missing members that have not been able to connect to #FuturesTrades
[11:24:26] <+Tigerman> yes I solved that with a notebook with mobile internet key
[11:25:46] <@wrbtrader> Reminder: If someone does NOT post trades in here or does NOT post real-time market commentaries...
[11:26:01] <@wrbtrader> You ain't going to be invited to Fuzemeeting...no exceptions
[11:26:03] <+Tigerman> at the end fuze meeting or any application of this kind is a big revolution for sharing ideas and view exacly how others work in real time and learn a lot
[11:26:18] <@wrbtrader> Tigerman...agreed
[11:26:22] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 842.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:26:43] <+markg557> i posted
[11:26:52] <+markg557> then i saw lot of posts on simulator
[11:26:59] <+markg557> i stoped posting real time trades
[11:27:24] <+markg557> because i find this not serious when i post real time and someone post demo simulator trades
[11:28:52] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 842 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[11:29:06] <+wave1> slight pb today but trend continues
[11:29:31] <+T4n_paper> I did the same thing yesterday
[11:29:33] <@wrbtrader> [11:27:24] <+markg557> because i find this not serious when i post real time and someone post demo simulator trades
[11:29:43] <@wrbtrader> I think that's a poor excuse
[11:29:58] <@wrbtrader> You're not here to compete with anyone and nobody is here to compete with you.
[11:30:08] <+T4n_paper> I try with my sim trades...
[11:30:19] <@wrbtrader> Thus, is someone is new to trading and still in the middle of designing their trading plan...
[11:30:33] <+markg557> when you trade simulator
[11:30:39] <+markg557> you can post all day long
[11:30:42] <@wrbtrader> It's understandable and recommended they use simulator only and not real money
[11:30:56] <+markg557> the game chnages when you start posting real trades
[11:31:04] <+T4n_paper> I've done real trades
[11:31:09] <+markg557> i am king on simulator
[11:31:10] <+T4n_paper> that's why i trade sim
[11:31:25] <@wrbtrader> markg557...still a poor excuse and it won't get you into Fuzemeeting :)
[11:32:09] <+markg557> funny
[11:32:11] <@wrbtrader> Post to get In...don't post and stay here on the Othernet SLOW servers
[11:32:27] <@wrbtrader> I'll be still here too to keep you company
[11:32:38] <@wrbtrader> I'll just manage both locations
[11:33:16] <@wrbtrader> I'll post a few trades in here to keep those happy that don't move to Fuzemeeting while the bulk of the sharing will occur on Fuze
[11:33:35] <@wrbtrader> As to the motives of others...I can't speak for them.
[11:34:08] <@wrbtrader> Simply, I just don't care why someone is on a simulator...
[11:34:15] <@wrbtrader> It's none of my business
[11:35:33] <+T4n_paper> I just want more experienc... this room keeps me motivated as well
[11:35:54] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:37:19] <@wrbtrader> Anyways, I've been on IRC for 15 years.
[11:37:37] <@wrbtrader> I've grown tired of it and need to be MORE mobile due to changes in my personal life.
[11:37:52] <@wrbtrader> It's the primary reason why I'm moving to Fuzemeeting.
[11:38:23] <@wrbtrader> Secondary reasons is to have truer real-time collaboration and to share (to those interested) the info on my screens.
[11:38:29] <+wave1> N can u trade from netbook etc which is such a small screem?
[11:39:04] <+wave1> on a mobile platform etc
[11:39:18] <@wrbtrader> I don't know what you're calling netbook...
[11:39:37] <@wrbtrader> Yeah...when I'm mobile...I obviously won't be on my desktops
[11:39:49] <@wrbtrader> Thus, will be on one screen only.
[11:40:06] <+wave1> k that is waht I mwant
[11:40:26] <@wrbtrader> Anyways, most of the time when I'm trading...it will be while Fuze is connected to my desktops.
[11:40:42] <+Tigerman> can be done but now I used to many chart and monitor not know hot to do on only a small monitor
[11:40:45] <@wrbtrader> Yet, the times when I do go mobile...I will obviously be on my laptop.
[11:41:04] <@wrbtrader> Along with being able to continue using Fuze
[11:41:04] <+markg557> tf ois about to break down
[11:41:12] <+Tigerman> also for chat I used a small notebook
[11:41:16] <+markg557> short tf 841,30
[11:41:18] <@wrbtrader> Agree
[11:41:23] <+markg557> NO DELAY ON THIS TRADE CALL
[11:41:27] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement still active
[11:41:45] <@wrbtrader> same as stated before the conversation :)
[11:42:04] <@wrbtrader> WRB Hidden GAP @ 1128am est
[11:42:35] <@wrbtrader> unfilled and still able to be used as a trigger
[11:42:38] <+Tigerman> after tired with eyes I connected the notebook with my spare 17" monitor
[11:43:07] <+Tigerman> now I plan to upgrade my main 24" monitor with 2 27 "
[11:43:23] <+markg557> i trade from mac mini and 30 in screen
[11:43:31] <+markg557> worsk well
[11:43:44] <+Tigerman> same number of windows inside but big size so my eyes thanks a lot :)
[11:44:49] <@wrbtrader> By the way, IRC sucks while mobile...too many connection issues
[11:45:13] <@wrbtrader> I have a script for such but the delays are horrible.
[11:45:29] <+markg557> i post real time and no delay
[11:45:29] <@wrbtrader> I also have a Twitter and Stocktwits posting script...
[11:45:35] <@wrbtrader> Same problem...delays
[11:45:39] <+markg557> 841.30 short
[11:46:21] <@wrbtrader> The isse is that when the trades are posted on Twitter or Stocktwits in real-time...by the time the script captures and sends the exact same trades to IRC...
[11:46:23] <+T4n_paper> 1200 soon
[11:46:56] <@wrbtrader> It post on Twitter/Stocktwits with a 1 second delay but the exact same trade is posted on IRC with a 30 second delay on average
[11:47:22] <@wrbtrader> Thus, one trade or market commentary post to three different sources at the same time...
[11:47:36] <@wrbtrader> IRC will post it via a bigger delay
[11:47:44] <@wrbtrader> Don't know why nor do I care :)
[11:47:46] <+Tigerman> another thing is the fact that one first is trading so click on his platform
[11:48:14] <+Tigerman> later post on chat
[11:48:29] <+Tigerman> so a natural dealy is normal
[11:49:00] <@wrbtrader> It's IMPOSSIBLE to post a true exactly the same time the trade is executed...
[11:49:11] <+markg557> very posible
[11:49:11] <+Tigerman> be able to trade with real money and post immediatly on chat is very hard and a big distraction
[11:49:14] <@wrbtrader> Even when using a dll script with TradeStation (only ones that has such)
[11:49:27] <@wrbtrader> I tried it and it "almost works"
[11:49:29] <@wrbtrader> :)
[11:49:56] <@wrbtrader> Just too many buggy problems and sometimes it caused Tradestation to crash in the middle of a trade
[11:50:43] <@wrbtrader> Brokers found out the same thing on Stocktwits...
[11:51:20] <@wrbtrader> There were 3 brokers in the beginning that allowed traders to connect their trade execution platforms to Stocktwits...
[11:51:27] <@wrbtrader> Too many crashes.
[11:51:39] <@wrbtrader> Now there are ZERO allowing such
[11:51:56] <@wrbtrader> now
[11:52:25] <@wrbtrader> That's why I say, the human eye and reaction time of seeing a trade...
[11:52:41] <@wrbtrader> It's about 3 - 5 seconds
[11:53:09] <@wrbtrader> Next, add on how long it takes to execuate your own trade AFTER seeing a trade...
[11:53:15] <@wrbtrader> Add on a few more seconds
[11:53:25] <@wrbtrader> That's why IRC is NOT suitable as a signal calling chat room
[11:53:29] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 841.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:53:33] <+Tigerman> exactly
[11:54:27] <+Tigerman> expecially for daytrading
[11:54:30] <+T4n_paper> maybe people will bail before lunch
[11:54:51] <@wrbtrader> IRC is NOT ok for day trading is someone wants info in real-time...
[11:54:59] <@wrbtrader> Swing trading or position trading is OK
[11:55:14] <@wrbtrader> No problems with those types of trading or market commentaries
[11:55:17] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 842 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[11:55:20] <@wrbtrader> For example...
[11:55:26] <+wave1> nq refuse to go red
[11:55:42] <@wrbtrader> If I say TOMORROW I will buy TF if it reaches 850.00
[11:55:58] <@wrbtrader> That's about as real-time as you can get.
[11:56:00] <@wrbtrader> :)
[11:56:07] <+wave1> lol
[11:56:33] <+Tigerman> yep and stick with that plan
[11:56:46] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Movement trying hard to go the other way
[11:57:07] <+T4n_paper> then i'll ree
[11:57:12] <@wrbtrader> Now waiting for "volatility contraction" AFTER the WRB Hidden GAP
[11:57:56] <@wrbtrader> That's 4 minutes BEFORE the fact.
[11:58:42] <@wrbtrader> Will take another 2 intervals at 2min apiece to confirm volatility contraction unless a NEW WRB Hidden GAP develops...
[11:58:48] <@wrbtrader> Resulting in a new count.
[11:59:45] <@wrbtrader> Therefore, you now KNOW ahead I'm going Long if I get a trade signal out of a confirmed volatility contraction
[12:00:40] <+wave1> nq is dead all AM but did not go red
[12:02:16] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement
[12:02:50] <@wrbtrader> Just need now a pullback but not into the recent WRB Hidden GAP @ 1154am est
[12:02:56] <+wave1> L mq 84 paper
[12:03:38] <+T4n_paper> I'd normaly look to short this
[12:03:45] <+T4n_paper> used to anyway
[12:04:42] <@wrbtrader> Creepers have 68% chance of moving in their confirm direction
[12:04:48] <@wrbtrader> Creeper is confirm
[12:04:58] <@wrbtrader> I'm going to still with the probabilities
[12:05:04] <@wrbtrader> still = stick
[12:05:25] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF testing the range of the WRB Hidden GAP :(
[12:06:28] <+wave1> k guys c u all later ty all
[12:06:33] <+wave1> back to office
[12:11:18] <+T4n_paper> may collapse into low vol
[12:11:24] <+Tigerman> lunch time see all later ..
[12:13:12] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 842 -> small size «« simulator »»
[12:13:55] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 842.2 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[12:14:05] <+T4n_paper> good enough
[12:14:12] <Bambam-77> Short TF @ 792.1 «« testing »»
[12:15:31] <+Bambam-77> trend is ss for now below 842.8
[12:16:39] <@wrbtrader> The high of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1128am est is my resistance area...
[12:17:07] <@wrbtrader> The low of the WRB Hidden GAP @ 1154am est is my support area...
[12:17:21] <@wrbtrader> Any price action in between...I'm ignoring.
[12:17:27] <+Bambam-77> 1412.5 as es pivot
[12:17:54] <@wrbtrader> As someone stated in the other room...
[12:17:58] <+Bambam-77> still looking at ss unless we firmup above
[12:18:02] <@wrbtrader> [12:11:10] <Tigerman> also we are in lunch time zone
[12:18:10] <@wrbtrader> Agree
[12:20:26] <+Bambam-77> probably drift lower
[12:21:20] <+Bambam-77> 842.8 is my line in sand tf
[12:23:43] <+Bambam-77> price action shows limit moves in tf always know thy stp
[12:32:25] <@wrbtrader> As stated the other day...
[12:32:41] <@wrbtrader> Shorten day for me...got some personal appointments this afternoon.
[12:32:49] <@wrbtrader> Take care and see all tomorrow.
[12:36:15] <+Bambam-77> take care
[13:02:55] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:32:28] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 841.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:35:26] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 841.4 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[14:02:19] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 841.9 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:05:01] <+T4n_paper> I sure do trade when it's ugly
[14:11:17] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 843.2 --> + 1.3 «« simulator »»
[14:31:21] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 842.9 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:32:55] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:33:41] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 842.7 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[14:51:23] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 842.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:52:16] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 842.3 --> - 0.5 «« simulator »»
[14:52:20] <+T4n_paper> damn
[15:16:18] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 841.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:17:18] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 841.3 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[15:51:01] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 83.86
[15:51:15] <+Tigerman> last minutes rush hour
[15:52:31] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 83.85 --> + 0.01
[15:55:08] <+Tigerman> down move still in place
[15:55:18] <+Tigerman> look s short again
[15:56:07] <+Tigerman> Shorts IWM @ 83.81
[15:57:05] <+Tigerman> TF/IWM more tight price vs others eminis
[15:59:56] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:02:08] <+Tigerman> Covered all IWM Short @ 83.76 --> + 0.05
[16:03:28] <+Tigerman> OK I close here
[16:03:36] <+Tigerman> take care all see tomorrow
[17:11:38] <+Bambam-77> Shorts TF @ 845 «« testing »»
[17:12:45] <+Bambam-77> Covered all TF Short @ 837 --> + 8 «« testing »»
[17:29:56] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Tues Mar 26 19:42:36 2012

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