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 Post subject: February 10th Friday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:41 pm 
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Session Start: Fri Feb 10 08:58:05 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[08:58:05] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[08:58:05] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:23:15] <+Trend> gm all
[09:25:43] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all...
[09:25:49] <wiseguy7600> gm
[09:26:03] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:26:12] <+wiseguy7600> greece remains the focus this morning
[09:26:12] <@wrbtrader> It will be a HUGE gap down at the open on the regular session chart...thanks to Greece again.
[09:26:45] <+wiseguy7600> yup, one of the parties refuses to sign agreement with Troyka
[09:27:53] <+Tigerman> this greece stuff is absurd
[09:28:06] <+Trend> Shorts Emini TF @ 814.1 «« simulator »»
[09:28:17] <+Tigerman> I mean they defaulted from over 3 years now...
[09:29:57] <+Tigerman> my main chart prog is crashing this morning
[09:30:12] <+Tigerman> I have to set up the spare one
[09:30:43] <+Tigerman> of course today I planned to not using it :(
[09:32:59] <+Trend> Covered 1/2 Emini TF Short @ 813.1 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:34:40] <+Trend> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 814 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[09:34:53] <+Trend> Long Emini TF @ 814.1 «« simulator »»
[09:38:20] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 814.60 -> medium size
[09:38:27] <@wrbtrader> 2+2
[09:40:22] <+Trend> Exited 1/2 Emini TF Long @ 815.1 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:40:33] <@wrbtrader> I'm bearish this morning with the Greece fiasco...
[09:41:00] <@wrbtrader> Thus, I am expecting this to "rollover southward" sometime today to make new intraday lows
[09:41:22] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 814.80 --> + 0.2
[09:41:30] <pat255> gm all
[09:42:13] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 815.30 -> medium size
[09:42:20] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[09:42:23] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[09:42:28] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 wasn't reached
[09:42:45] <+Trend> Exited Remainder Emini TF Long @ 816.1 --> + 2 «« simulator »»
[09:43:05] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 815.50 --> + 0.2
[09:43:28] <@wrbtrader> good volatility so far but its shaking me...
[09:43:39] <@wrbtrader> I'm still bias to the Short side...
[09:43:50] <@wrbtrader> Waiting for an opportunity to go large on a Short
[09:44:20] <+pat255> looking for L on nq
[09:46:25] <@wrbtrader> 0955am est pending key market events
[09:47:50] <+Tigerman> today no have data from TF so I follow only the IWM
[09:48:00] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement
[09:49:16] <+Tigerman> yep I have a WRB HG in IWM at 9:36
[09:49:50] <+Tigerman> now the creepy up is confermed on IWM
[09:49:55] <+Tigerman> I wait x a C1
[09:50:43] <+Tigerman> but today have problem with data feed and chart :(
[09:52:27] <+pat255> l 2245 nq
[09:54:57] <+wiseguy7600> worse than expected
[09:55:00] <+pat255> out -1
[09:56:49] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[09:57:07] <+pat255> N u were correct on S bias
[09:57:51] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 813.20 -> large size
[09:58:21] <StormwolfT> intuition?
[09:59:07] <+pat255> looking for L nq 36 area
[10:00:33] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 812.20 --> + 1
[10:00:42] <+pat255> wd
[10:06:13] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 811.40 -> small size
[10:06:19] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:06:28] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement
[10:06:33] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:06:57] <@wrbtrader> Long shadows now trying to show up :(
[10:08:59] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.10 --> + 0.3
[10:10:09] <+pat255> geez missed the 36 entry ...someone in the room :(
[10:10:32] <+pat255> looks like even NQ may be betetr to S
[10:13:53] <+pat255> S 38 nq
[10:15:02] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 810.60 -> medium size
[10:15:12] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[10:16:47] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.00 --> - 0.4
[10:18:32] <+pat255> out -2 nq
[10:20:27] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 811.20 -> medium size
[10:22:06] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 812.00 --> + 0.8
[10:23:05] <@wrbtrader> more volatility contraction with choppy price action showing up
[10:30:02] <+pat255> nq stronger a bit than es tf
[10:35:08] <T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 812.5 -> large size «« simulator »»
[10:35:13] <+pat255> that 36 on nq held
[10:38:36] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 812 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[10:42:01] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 813.00 -> small size
[10:42:38] <@wrbtrader> Emini YM had a WRB spike down and then the next interval went up
[10:42:50] <@wrbtrader> 2 contracts
[10:42:53] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[10:46:03] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 813.00 --> 0
[10:46:10] <@wrbtrader> lost patience
[10:46:32] <+pat255> y not easy heer
[11:14:24] <+pat255> l 38 es paper
[11:25:31] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 814.4 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:26:50] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:32:07] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ alot --> + alot - 814.4 «« simulator »»
[11:34:17] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 813.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[11:36:05] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 814.2 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[12:56:50] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:19:11] <+Tigerman> I have to exit have all a safe weekend see all next week
[13:48:54] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 812.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:51:30] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 812.5 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[13:56:26] <@wrbtrader> 5min and 15min chart tells the story clearly...
[13:56:33] <@wrbtrader> Range Day
[13:56:48] <@wrbtrader> after the big overnight or pre market price action
[13:56:53] <+pat255> @office looking at 2mchart only
[13:57:37] <+pat255> correct N nq range too
[13:58:40] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 812.2 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:59:48] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 811.8 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:00:19] <+pat255> nq heading tothe lows?
[14:03:57] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 812.5 -> small size «« simulator »»
[14:06:37] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 812.4 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[14:07:15] <@wrbtrader> range getting tighter again
[14:07:39] <+pat255> FREE Paragon System Backup 10.5 SE 5 hours left to DL http://giveaway.downloadcrew.com/
[14:16:27] <+T4n_paper> I couldn't survive the low vol pullback
[14:23:50] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:01:15] <@wrbtrader> volatility spike
[15:03:20] <+pat255> S nq 40.5
[15:06:21] <+pat255> out 38 nq
[15:09:57] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 811.10 -> small size
[15:10:12] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:12:40] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.00 --> + 0.1
[15:17:55] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 811.3 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:18:07] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 810.80 -> small size
[15:18:13] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[15:18:16] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[15:18:43] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 810.6 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[15:18:53] <@wrbtrader> 811.10 slipped through my fingers via a 3 second hesitation
[15:19:44] <+T4n_paper> early entry
[15:20:01] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.00 --> - 0.2
[15:22:14] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 811.10 -> medium size
[15:22:57] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[15:23:15] <@wrbtrader> risky due to the size increase
[15:24:23] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 811.10 --> 0
[15:24:48] <@wrbtrader> gave it a good try
[15:25:09] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 810.60 -> medium size
[15:25:19] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:25:38] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Down Movement trying to resume
[15:25:58] <+pat255> S may cover atthe eod?
[15:26:46] <@wrbtrader> May be an issue of "will Longs show up in full force"
[15:27:18] <+pat255> mostly S cover Ithink
[15:27:24] <@wrbtrader> We already know the price action has been POOR going into the 4pm est rush hour traffic the past several weeks
[15:27:35] <+T4n_paper> yep
[15:27:36] <+pat255> y true
[15:29:47] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.50 --> - 0.9
[15:30:16] <@wrbtrader> hate exiting a losing trade at the extreme of its range
[15:30:44] <+T4n_paper> i know...
[15:31:53] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 811.50 -> medium size
[15:32:49] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 811.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:33:22] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.70 --> - 0.2
[15:35:01] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 811.90 -> medium size
[15:35:41] <@wrbtrader> near a R area :(
[15:36:13] <@wrbtrader> I'm now expecting a volatility spike
[15:36:23] <@wrbtrader> Up or Down away from this R area
[15:36:28] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[15:36:36] <+T4n_paper> :(
[15:38:32] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 811.6 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[15:38:37] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 811.70 --> - 0.2
[15:39:11] <@wrbtrader> 812.00 - 811.50 is that R area
[15:40:24] <@wrbtrader> Price action has been getting stuck in these types of 5 tick ranges a lot lately going into the 3:45pm - 4:00pm est rush hour traffic
[15:41:44] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 811.7 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:41:50] <+T4n_paper> tight stop
[15:41:56] <+T4n_paper> bleh
[15:42:00] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 811.5 --> - 0.2 «« simulator »»
[15:42:42] <+T4n_paper> hoping it would push through
[15:42:43] <@wrbtrader> Only good thing is that it will be easy to spot a Breakout
[15:44:13] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 812.1 -> small size «« simulator »»
[15:44:57] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 812.40 -> large size
[15:45:11] <@wrbtrader> breakout but will it hold
[15:46:17] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 812.7 --> + 0.6 «« simulator »»
[15:46:54] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 812.50 --> + 0.1
[15:48:12] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 812.50 -> large size
[15:48:20] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[15:48:40] <@wrbtrader> 4+2
[15:48:56] <+T4n_paper> Dark interval keeping me out
[15:50:03] <@wrbtrader> tricky too because TF doesn't have a dark WRB but IWM did
[15:51:47] <@wrbtrader> A new 5 tick range developed
[15:53:15] <+pat255> see you all next week ..
[15:53:20] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF below its volatility contraction...
[15:53:22] <+pat255> have a peaceful weekend
[15:53:28] <+pat255> ty
[15:53:29] <@wrbtrader> Other Eminis still holding their support
[15:53:51] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[15:53:53] <+T4n_paper> tf vol expanded below contraction
[15:54:17] <+T4n_paper> I dont know, too confusing for me atm
[15:54:47] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES just sitting there...doing nothing
[15:55:27] <@wrbtrader> Emini YM and ES now trying to go higher
[15:56:24] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 812.00 --> - 0.5
[15:57:15] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 811.50 -> large size
[15:57:32] <@wrbtrader> 6 contracts
[15:57:49] <+T4n_paper> eminis not syncing
[15:58:24] <@wrbtrader> AD lines out of whack too
[15:59:01] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 811.40 --> + 0.1
[15:59:22] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 811.80 -> large size
[15:59:36] <@wrbtrader> :(
[15:59:49] <@wrbtrader> geeesh
[16:00:05] <+T4n_paper> I nearly shorted...
[16:04:04] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 812.90 --> + 1.1
[16:05:45] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 813.00 -> medium size
[16:06:01] <@wrbtrader> Creeper Up Movement still intact
[16:06:46] <@wrbtrader> watching the Creeper Movement in "all Eminis" at the same time is a little tiring.
[16:06:53] <@wrbtrader> Did such many times today
[16:08:12] <+T4n_paper> plenty of time to rest this weekend
[16:11:32] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 813.80 --> + 0.8
[16:11:47] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached
[16:11:52] <@wrbtrader> same on prior trade too
[16:12:22] <@wrbtrader> both trades involved "identifying" the Creeper Up Movement
[16:12:37] <+T4n_paper> didnt expect TF to sync with its emini pals
[16:13:05] <+T4n_paper> and I gave up on the creeper, nearly went short to immediate fail
[16:14:40] <@wrbtrader> Most of my trades were to the Long side AFTER I cover that Short for a loss around 1530pm est
[16:14:51] <@wrbtrader> That's when the Creeper Up Movement was confirmed
[16:15:44] <+T4n_paper> i see now
[16:15:50] <+T4n_paper> not during
[16:16:22] <@wrbtrader> I did only two Shorts amongst that Creeper Up Movement...one small winner and the other a small loss
[16:16:24] <+T4n_paper> I gave up after the vol spike up
[16:19:37] <+T4n_paper> hindsight looks like a good long before the closing bell :)
[16:20:07] <@wrbtrader> You mean at 1614pm est ?
[16:20:25] <+T4n_paper> sry 1558
[16:20:27] <+T4n_paper> you got it
[16:20:53] <+T4n_paper> I was good and confused at that point
[16:21:38] <+T4n_paper> Hindsight, should have paid attention to 1528
[16:22:01] <@wrbtrader> The adaption I did today in the rush hour trading session between 3:45pm - 4:15pm est was that I dropped down to the "1 minute chart interval"
[16:22:27] <@wrbtrader> I usually only use that interval during a FOMC Announcement or EXTREME volatility
[16:23:28] <@wrbtrader> I felt if I was going to have a chance at spotting any Creeper Movements in the rush hour traffic...it was via that interval
[16:23:57] <+T4n_paper> was a good call, cleans it up in higher vol
[16:25:26] <+T4n_paper> good day for experience
[16:41:04] <@wrbtrader> Take care, have a good weekend and see all on Monday
[17:20:51] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
Session Close: Fri Feb 10 17:28:39 2012

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