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 Post subject: January 30th Monday - Futures, ETFs and Forex Currencies
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:02 pm 
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#FuturesTrades is designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a real time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day and this gives them a better understanding of their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day. In addition, we welcome all traders with their own methods or different perspective of the markets to help keep the chat room diversified...posting trades or market commentaries about the price action on their monitors.

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Session Start: Mon Jan 30 09:19:46 2012
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:19:46] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:19:47] <@X> [NihabaAshi] chat room archives @ viewforum.php?f=20
[09:26:45] <wave1> gm all
[09:31:12] <+wave1> s 35 nq papaer
[09:31:27] <@wrbtrader> Good morning all...
[09:31:38] <+wave1> gm M
[09:32:02] <@wrbtrader> These huge opening gaps on the regular session charts are crazy and consistent since the 2008 financial crisis occurred
[09:32:14] <Trendtrader> gm all
[09:32:35] <Tigerman> gm all
[09:35:34] <+Trendtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 788.7 «« simulator »»
[09:38:54] <+wave1> out 2t nq
[09:38:58] <+wave1> will wait
[09:51:01] <+Trendtrader> Covered 1/2 Emini TF Short @ 787.7 --> + 1 «« simulator »»
[09:51:15] <+Tigerman> good trend
[09:52:26] <+wave1> back geez missed nq S
[09:57:27] <+wave1> hmmm turning awound
[09:57:58] <+Trendtrader> Covered Remainder Emini TF Short @ 788.2 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»
[09:58:51] <+wave1> es zoom up
[09:59:55] <+wave1> S 37 nq
[10:06:06] <+wave1> out +3
[10:13:06] <werner> hi all
[10:19:58] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[10:22:47] <T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 786 -> large size «« simulator »»
[10:23:38] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 786.6 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[10:26:01] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 786.3 -> large size «« simulator »»
[10:27:52] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 24.35.50
[10:29:17] <+wave1> es had some bounce but no cigar
[10:29:28] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 24.34.00 --> + 24.35.50 - 24.34.00
[10:29:41] <+werner> djeez
[10:30:15] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 24.34.00 --> + 24.35.50 - 24.34.00
[10:30:24] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 785.5 --> + 0.8 «« simulator »»
[10:30:36] <+werner> mm exit +1.5
[10:30:57] <+wave1> vn
[10:31:11] <+werner> tx
[10:32:56] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2435.50
[10:33:51] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2437.00 --> + 1.5
[10:38:07] <+wave1> res. 1303 on es
[10:45:24] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 788.50 -> small size
[10:45:32] <@wrbtrader> 3 contracts
[10:46:09] <@wrbtrader> WRB pt1 reached (shallow)
[10:46:17] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 789.00 --> + 0.5
[10:47:02] <+wave1> vn quick one
[10:50:34] <+wave1> still look for 1303 on es
[10:54:25] <@wrbtrader> Not a lot of volatility so far today...reason why I didn't stay in that trade beyond a WRB pt1
[10:55:05] <@wrbtrader> Especially with the low volatility and tight trading range in Emini ES futures and Emini YM futures
[10:55:06] <+wave1> y this move up a bit inexpected ...
[11:01:22] <+wave1> S 50 nq tight stop
[11:01:44] <+wave1> geez out -1 that was quick
[11:01:58] <@wrbtrader> Biggest volatility spike of the trading day so far
[11:02:44] <+wave1> s 1302.75 es
[11:06:00] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 791.6 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[11:06:25] <+wave1> out 2t geez
[11:08:35] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 791.7 --> + 0.1 «« simulator »»
[11:09:33] <+wave1> dropped idea of S es ..
[11:09:42] <+Tigerman> Long TF @ 791.8 «« simulator »»
[11:13:13] <+Tigerman> Exited all TF Long @ 791.2 --> - 0.6 «« simulator »»
[11:19:26] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 790.9 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[11:23:02] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES and YM futures still WEAK
[11:24:10] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 791.6 --> + 0.7 «« simulator »»
[11:33:33] <+wave1> 1303 may become S
[11:34:50] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2454.00
[11:35:57] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2455.00 --> - 1
[11:37:21] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2455.00
[11:39:02] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2457.50 --> + 2.5
[11:44:47] <+wave1> vn werner
[11:45:02] <+wave1> back hust had quick lunch
[11:45:19] <+werner> thnx wave
[11:49:58] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[11:50:56] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 791.30 -> small size
[11:51:02] <@wrbtrader> 1 contract
[11:55:26] <+werner> nq is the prop :(
[11:57:50] <@wrbtrader> more and more volatility contraction
[11:58:11] <@wrbtrader> Exited Emini TF Long @ 790.80 --> - 0.5
[12:20:25] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2456.00
[12:22:51] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2456.50 --> - 0.5
[12:25:25] <+werner> diner here ..bbl
[12:43:59] <@wrbtrader> So far only Emini TF is dropping on increasing volatility (slowly)
[13:13:12] <@wrbtrader> Geeesh...YM futures slowly been turning into like ES futures the past year or so.
[13:13:46] <@wrbtrader> Volatility drying up as the bots, arbs, hft, algs or whatever you want to call it become "more efficient".
[13:14:06] <+T4n_paper> thats too bad
[13:14:18] <+T4n_paper> i was hoping to start with ym when i went live
[13:15:10] <@wrbtrader> I still can't figure out why many "retail traders" are still attracted to the Emini ES while knowing the most capitalized traders and most professional participation out there.
[13:16:59] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[13:17:01] <+Tigerman> hi wrbtrader in relation why retail wanna trade ES
[13:17:57] <+Tigerman> because by mistake they think the money is made there
[13:18:46] <+Tigerman> in contrast is there is more efficency so too compressed price and not spike where to get some profit
[13:19:14] <+Tigerman> yes in ES you have less spread but also less move
[13:19:38] <+Tigerman> this if we speak x volatility move
[13:20:06] <+Tigerman> maybe many reatilers wanna get some swing..
[13:21:00] <+Tigerman> btr wrbtrader what you think of the insane idea from france and seems germany to finantial transaction tax??
[13:21:14] <+Tigerman> uk say nooo of course
[13:21:44] <+Tigerman> but we have to remember they have a duty stamp on stocks.. :(
[13:29:48] <+T4n_paper> Shorts TF @ 788.8 -> small size «« simulator »»
[13:31:19] <+T4n_paper> Covered TF Short @ 789.5 --> - 0.7 «« simulator »»
[13:38:21] <@wrbtrader> Emini ES and YM futures showing strength now
[13:41:33] <@wrbtrader> time for lunch
[13:41:37] <@wrbtrader> be back later
[13:41:43] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[13:51:45] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2463.00
[13:53:49] <+werner> exit 61.50
[13:54:35] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2461.50 --> + 1.5
[13:59:52] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 792.1 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:02:08] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 792.3 --> + 0.2 «« simulator »»
[14:04:29] * wrbtrader_away is now known as wrbtrader
[14:04:42] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2064.75
[14:05:22] <+werner> exit 59.25
[14:05:24] <Babalatchi> short CLH 98.60 into pit close stop 98.90
[14:07:09] <+werner> mm
[14:08:30] <+werner> stop at 63.25
[14:08:39] <+T4n_paper> Long TF @ 792 -> medium size «« simulator »»
[14:10:25] <+T4n_paper> Exited TF Long @ 792.4 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »»
[14:10:37] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2462.25 --> - 397.5
[14:11:52] <+werner> thats a-2.5
[14:14:23] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2464.50
[14:16:04] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2463.50 -> Add
[14:16:13] <@wrbtrader> I'm going to wait until the 3pm est session to begin before looking for trade opportunities again...
[14:16:44] <@wrbtrader> trading from 2pm - 3pm est on a low volatility trading day has "always" been uncomfortable for me.
[14:16:47] <@wrbtrader> be back later.
[14:23:59] <+Babalatchi> long CLH 98.70 stop 98.60
[14:24:32] <+Babalatchi> previous CL trade stopped out 98.90
[14:25:01] <+werner> Covered 1/2 Emini NQ Short @ 2462.00 --> + 1.5
[14:30:34] <+Babalatchi> exit CLH @ 98.80
[14:30:53] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2462.00 --> + 2.5
[14:31:00] <+Babalatchi> net loss 2 CL trades -200
[14:33:06] <+Babalatchi> short NGH @ 2.711 stop 2.721
[14:42:27] <+werner> Long Emini NQ @ 2463.50
[14:43:17] <+Babalatchi> long GCJ @ 1234
[14:43:18] <+werner> exit 65.25
[14:43:29] <+Babalatchi> stop GCJ @1232
[14:44:51] <+werner> Exited all Emini NQ Long @ 2464.25 --> + 0.75
[14:45:06] <+werner> mm sissy
[14:46:59] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[14:47:06] <+werner> Shorts Emini NQ @ 2462.50
[14:48:27] <+werner> Covered all Emini NQ Short @ 2461.00 --> + 1.5
[15:02:52] <+Babalatchi> covered NGH @ 2.693 +180
[15:09:50] <+Babalatchi> stopped GCJ -200
[15:10:53] <+Babalatchi> long NGH 2.691 stop @ 2.685
[15:23:13] <+werner> gn all
[15:26:55] <+Babalatchi> exit NGH @ 2.696 +50
[15:43:33] <@wrbtrader> 1545pm - 1600pm est rush hour traffic around the corner
[15:49:25] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 791.30 -> medium size
[15:49:31] <@wrbtrader> 3+1
[15:52:25] <@wrbtrader> EuroFX 6E futures moving higher too
[15:53:00] <@wrbtrader> tighten stop loss
[15:54:44] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 791.40 --> + 0.1
[15:54:58] <@wrbtrader> it was a good try :(
[15:55:07] <+Tigerman> agreed
[15:55:24] <+Tigerman> not strong moving
[15:55:45] <@wrbtrader> support around 790.00
[15:57:20] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 789.80 -> medium size
[15:57:29] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:57:37] <@wrbtrader> intuition
[15:58:01] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 790.20 --> - 0.4
[15:59:33] <+Tigerman> not a nice day x me
[15:59:37] <@wrbtrader> Shorts Emini TF @ 790.30 -> medium size
[15:59:42] <@wrbtrader> re-entry
[15:59:46] <@wrbtrader> 4 contracts
[15:59:49] <+Tigerman> too much contraction
[16:00:52] <@wrbtrader> Covered all Emini TF Short @ 790.90 --> - 0.6
[16:01:46] <@wrbtrader> Long Emini TF @ 791.00 -> medium size
[16:03:06] <@wrbtrader> Looks like that WRB Hidden GAP of 1336pm est didn't have enough time to generate volatility...just contraction
[16:07:06] <+T4n_paper> two tf doji's, low vol
[16:08:16] <@wrbtrader> Hopefully tomorrow (last trading day of the month) will have more volatility than today.
[16:08:32] <+Tigerman> yep I hope so
[16:08:45] <@wrbtrader> Going into February...volatility "usually" is more active than January.
[16:09:57] <+Tigerman> thats good because I switch from sym to real money..
[16:10:44] <+Tigerman> the results in January was not good as Nov-Dec
[16:11:10] <+T4n_paper> were you possitive?
[16:11:13] <+Tigerman> so I wait x a better volatility in FEb
[16:11:35] <+Tigerman> hi t4n
[16:11:44] <+T4n_paper> hello
[16:11:49] <+T4n_paper> just curious
[16:12:47] <+Tigerman> sorry what do yo mean if I was optimistic in Jan ?
[16:13:06] <+T4n_paper> dollar wise,
[16:13:14] <+T4n_paper> are you in the black
[16:13:56] <+Tigerman> what I mean is simply my January was not good as previous 2 months
[16:14:00] <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders of Emini Futures (EMD, TF, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (6E, EC), Eurex/Euronext Futures (DAX, ESTX50, FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQ, SPY) and Forex Currencies
[16:14:08] <@wrbtrader> Exited all Emini TF Long @ 791.30 --> + 0.3
[16:14:17] <+T4n_paper> ok
[16:14:46] <+Tigerman> I have add got some distraction in life cause a slow in my trading
[16:15:27] <+Tigerman> but review my past trades show diffrent chart oportunity in Jan vs nov-dec
[16:15:58] <+Tigerman> anyway I am optimistic and plan to have a good February :)
[16:16:11] <+T4n_paper> Good luck sir
[16:16:12] <+Babalatchi> thx guys
[16:16:22] <@wrbtrader> Emini TF futures pulled back into the price area of that WRB Hidden GAP again.
[16:16:22] <+Tigerman> we will know that after some weeks
[16:16:30] <+Tigerman> thanks
[16:16:39] <+Tigerman> thanks t4n
[16:16:58] <@wrbtrader> I'm going to hang around to see what it does at 1630pm est when the maintenance period of 15 minutes is complete.
[16:40:14] <@wrbtrader> Take care all and see all tomorrow.
[16:40:28] * wrbtrader is now known as wrbtrader_away
[16:45:25] <+Tigerman> see all tomorrow
Session Close: Mon Jan 30 16:48:35 2012

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Therefore, we welcome all traders with their own trade signal methods, different perspective of the markets and different experience levels. To gain access to #FuturesTrades...please follow the instructions at the below link.

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The purpose of #FuturesTrades is that it's designed to be a trade journal for documentation purposes only so that members can have a time stamp archive of trades and market commentaries of each trading day so that they can better understand their broker statements from one trade to the next trade when they review their performance numbers on any given trading day.

Further, members are not obligated to educate nor help other members but members are encourage to ask questions about any trades or market commentaries that's posted by others because sometimes the answers contains useful trading tips.

In addition, our primary job in the free chat room is to moderate the room (keep the peace) because with so many members using different trade signal methods along with different opinions about the market...debates or arguments can easily flare up without moderating. In addition, our presence in the chat room is to ensure it's a spam free chat room during trading although these archived chat logs may contain advertisements for guest visitors.

Commonly discussed trading instruments from futures, exchange traded funds and forex currencies:

Image CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ

Image ICE Emini TF Futures (formerly CME ER2)

Image CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Image Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Image Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives (futures) BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Image Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

Image CME Futures EuroFX 6E and EC

Image Treasury Futures T-Notes ZT, ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Image Forex Currencies GbpUsd, EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCad

Image Exchange Traded Funds VXX, DIA, IWM, QQQ, SPY, BGU, FAS, FAZ, TNA, OIH, XLE and GLD

Image NYMEX Energy Futures Light Crude Oil CL, Brent Crude Oil BRN, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

Image COMEX Metal Futures Gold GC, mini-Gold YG, Copper HG and Silver SI

Image S&P CNX NIFTY Futures

Image Hang Seng Index Futures HSI and mini-Hang Seng MHI

Also, to prevent the usual mix-up about our different chat rooms, most of our fee-base clients do not use chat rooms just like most retail traders do not use chat rooms. Yet, the few clients that do use chat rooms, our fee-base clients are discussing market analysis or price action only trade signals via concepts from our strategies in the private chat rooms called #VolatilityTradingTSL or #SwingTradingTSL and they're not allowed to do such in #FuturesTrades.

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