Session Start: Fri May 13 09:35:46 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:35] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:35] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [09:37] gm [09:38] hi szu [09:39] SMH is smok'n [09:42] consumers sentiment ... coming up shortly [09:43] morn all [09:43] S ym 200 [09:45] I'll be bearish via the weekly chart analysis if the markets close less than yesterdays mid-point area. [09:47] for the daily or swing trades ? [09:47] mich out 85.3 [09:47] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10190 [09:47] was expected 90 [09:48] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1160.0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:48] eminitrader...both. [09:49] k [09:49] thx [09:51] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1160.0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:52] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1159.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:53] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 586.00 -> small size [09:53] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10179 --> + 11 [09:53] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10190 [09:53] Testing something new here. [09:53] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1158.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:54] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 586.00 [09:54] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 585.1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:54] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 584.80 --> + 1.2 [09:55] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 584.6 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:55] Niha some kind of new setup? [09:56] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 584.5 --> + 0.6 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:56] Yep...a continuation pattern...I used tried it many years ago without any consistent success...decided to overhaul it and use my current trade management (a lot different than 6 years ago). [09:58] Hopefully by the end of the year I'll have enough trades via it to determine if its suitable for normal use. [09:58] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1156.5 --> + 3.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:58] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 584.00 --> + 2 [09:59] Eminis will need to put in a power move upwards to close above yesterday's mid-point to prevent Shorts showing up early next week in "full force". [10:00] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1157.75 --> + 2.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:03] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 583.9 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:04] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 583.4 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:04] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 583.4 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:05] wrong [10:05] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 583.9 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:08] NQ showed unusual strength in comparison to the others. [10:11] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 586.00 [10:13] NQ showed unusual strength in comparison to the others. [10:14] The spread NQ/ ES is rising stongly since end of April... [10:14] yup nq took this back up [10:14] Do you know this indicator...? [10:14] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 586.00 --> 0 [10:15] The spread between the front month Nasdaq-100 and S&P500 futures contracts ??? [10:15] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [10:21] 0,3 Long YM @ 10183 [10:27] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10190 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:28] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10178 [10:28] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10180 --> + 10 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:29] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10195 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:31] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10195 --> - 5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:34] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10178 --> - 5 [10:37] Anybody got any recommendation for a particular software that does "automatic backup" (working in the background) of files or the entire hard-drive via schedule times. [10:37] Right now...I do everything manually...once per week. [10:37] Niha: consider using RAID [10:37] I'm looking for something to do it for me on a daily basis via a schedule. [10:37] yes....try Iomega BAckup [10:37] niha - how large is yr backup? [10:38] and what media do u use? [10:38] No more than 40G but my critical files are no more than 5G. [10:39] tape or CD? [10:39] Currently, I do it manually to a "external" hard-drive once per week. [10:40] what software for backup? [10:40] Are you asking what software am I trying to backup ? [10:41] no, i'm asking what application do u use to perform the backup [10:41] or ru just copy files over to the HD? [10:42] My external drive holds 250G and I do the 40G backup via either "just copy" or via AISBackup. [10:42] AISBackup is a backup program? [10:43] Well...they have an old version of a backup program I used on an old pc :) [10:43] Not sure what they have now. [10:45] Iomega backup seems to me a good solution... [10:45] I'm just looking for something with the least maintenance...it just works in the background are I setup the schedule settings. [10:46] try this [10:46] http://superwin.com/rescuexp.htm [10:46] here is the link for iomega : [10:46] http://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iomega_na_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16448 [10:46] it also does a registry backup and recovery disc [10:46] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10206 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:46] 0,2 Covered all ZB Short @ 115-270 --> + 115-16 - 115-270 [10:46] last posting [10:46] late posting [10:48] 0,3 Long YM @ 10199 [10:49] Thanks guys for the links. [10:49] btw niha... for those 5G critical files.. [10:50] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10185 [10:50] u might consider using a memeory stick [10:50] they based on flash eprom tecnology [10:51] i think they have about 2gig capacities these days, but to me seem more reliable than other nedia [10:51] and very quick [10:52] 2G will do especially since they are personal digitial photos, live-recordings of my trading sessions and my daily email interactions. [10:53] Along with my personal charts of daily trade signals. [10:53] That stuff needs to be backup daily...no more once per week. [10:54] i recently bought a 1gig stick for backup puposes [10:55] paid bout $100 [10:55] but they getting cheapper all the time [10:55] i think its a tecnology to watch [10:55] only a matter of time fore we have our HD's in that media [10:56] also its uses USB connection [10:57] hehe i was wrong about the price tho [10:58] just seen 1 gig selling for $40 [10:59] 2G $140, 4G $309, and 8G $1500 [10:59] http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_flash.asp [10:59] look at this Niha [10:59] http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=110 [11:00] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10220 --> + 21 [11:00] Pdays...that's something I need for the Laptop...will save the link...thanks. [11:01] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10195 [11:17] . [11:27] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10202 [11:27] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [11:28] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10223 [11:31] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10221 -> Add 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:42] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10215 --> + 8 [11:43] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10223 [11:51] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10225 --> - 2 [11:55] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10211 [11:56] 0,3 Long YM @ 10235.00 -> small size [11:56] 0,3 Long YM @ 10237.00 -> Add [11:57] 0,3 Long YM @ 10230.00 -> Add [11:59] ER looks like its Topping [12:03] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10225 [12:07] the dow can't seem to get out of it's own way, i was hoping it would play catch up with the ndx [12:08] we had a lot of selling yersturday and it was all pros so i dont think they gonna let this go any higher [12:19] geez this is slow [12:20] Yea..I gotta leave soon...can't finish this trade at this rate [12:21] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10236 --> - 11 [12:21] 0,3 Long YM @ 10236 [12:22] oil 47.90 [12:23] I may get a short signal in ER2 :( [12:24] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10219 [12:26] we are slowly creeping higher [12:26] i shoudnt have taken that Short [12:29] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10224 --> - 12 [12:29] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10223 [12:30] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10223.00 --> - 12 [12:30] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short YM @ 10223.00 [12:30] Added 3 contracts [12:30] yeah wish i could do that get me ++ for day [12:30] small account Sucks [12:31] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10219 --> + 20 [12:34] I need 10213.00 to dump 1/2 and be breakeven on YM overall. [12:35] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10211 --> + 12 [12:35] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10210.00 --> + 20 [12:36] szu...I usually trade no more than 9 YM contracts on a normal day or when I'm trading my best signals... [12:36] However, when I'm testing new stuff like today...I'll start with 1 contract entries and build up as the day progresses. [12:37] Only reason why I added 3 contracts on the trade reversal because the Short signal is one of my normal setups whereas the Long entry that got me into a little pinch was a new entry method I'm testing. [12:39] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [12:41] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10205 [12:41] I'm just guessing but I think 5 YM contracts is normal for most retail traders. [12:43] hi all [12:44] hi zizi, where u been? [12:47] I got a pm...for clarification...when I say I'm testing something new...its via real money. [12:47] However, if the method is not of my own...I'll test it via a realtime simulator and my trade will say "paper trade". [12:48] I'm sick:( [12:49] Hopefully not the market is making you sick. [12:49] not yet! [12:54] 0,3 Long ER2 @ 586.9 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:01] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10222.00 [13:02] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10224 [13:03] [12:35] Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10210.00 --> + 20 [13:03] Not sure why the script posted that...its suppose to be straight math :( [13:04] That 1/2 is +13 per contract [13:08] Nihaba, in regards to your backup question: I suggest you check out Salty Brine Software's FolderClone and FolderMatch for simple one version manual copying of files and folders, Stomp Inc.'s Backup MyPC for creating file and folder specific backups, and Dantz Retrospect for volume backups. [13:11] With FolderClone and FolderMatch you can backup all your files with one mouse click to your external hard drive. The others can create progressive backups, meaning you can restore prior versions that were backed up. [13:12] Those products I mentioned to you are geared respectively toward home users up through small businesses. [13:13] Salty Brine the mosst home user oriented, Retrospect the most small business oriented, Stomp in between. [13:19] oil bounce quite a bit, now -.15 [13:19] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10216 [13:20] 0,2 Exited all ER2 Long @ 585.9 --> - 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:22] plan to cover 1/2 around 10185 [13:22] if i get the chance [13:23] They need to crack this 200 hard [13:23] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10197.00 --> + 26 [13:24] oil back to flat [13:24] Nice Niha [13:24] going green [13:24] [12:08] we had a lot of selling yersturday and it was all pros so i dont think they gonna let this go any higher [13:24] Holding only 2 contracts....may get lucky and catch a pt3 [13:25] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10213 [13:26] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10187.00 --> + 36 [13:26] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10183 --> + 22 [13:26] Holding 1 contract...may get lucky and catch a pt4 [13:27] Low of day test? [13:27] Oooo that would be nice [13:27] i dont see why not.. dont see any Support [13:30] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10205 [13:31] Thanks m618 for the info. [13:33] np, drop me an email if you have more questions [13:37] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10186 --> + 55 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:38] very nice danshirley [13:38] back from lunch :-) [13:40] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10220.00 [13:42] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [13:42] nice work dan [13:44] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAsh [13:45] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10196 [13:47] IF we breal low of day this could get UGLY [13:49] I'm at a pt4 but there's a small chance I can get a pt5 if this can pick up momentum downwards in the next two intervals on the 5min chart. [13:51] 0,3 Long YM @ 10175 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:51] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:53] I got a good choke hold on YM...time to put it to sleep. [13:54] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10165 --> - 10 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:54] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10192 [13:55] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10162.00 --> + 61 [13:55] Caught a pt5. [13:55] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10179 [13:55] 4 GO NIHA 4 [13:56] nicee one real neat :) [13:57] I just followed danshirley down...his patience paved a nice path for me :) [13:58] REIT's are getting hit...chk out RWR [14:06] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10171 --> + 52 [14:06] WTG szu [14:08] thanx.. back to ++ for day hehe [14:08] Nice work szu and dan...it would be nice now if it bounce back up strongly so that we feel like we got the best of it :) [14:12] had another long signal but afraid to take it [14:14] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10173 [14:14] Wow...YM just hit a pt6 [14:15] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10172 [14:17] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10140 --> + 65 [14:18] no exit sig, it was just getting too good to be true [14:19] YM now at a pt7...geeesh...someone call 911. [14:20] Nice trade TLTrader. [14:20] thanks, i'm learning some good trade habits from you guys [14:21] Power failure here bout 15 mins ago...my UPS is supporting me now.... had to exit this short quite early [14:21] bummer [14:29] Nice Shorts room. [14:30] ok.. will cya all on monday.. my ups is saying goodnight [14:30] bout to turn all my support off... :(( [14:32] hopefully you'll have power by Monday [14:32] Now at a pt8. [14:32] I hope we don't see a bunch of Black Monday threads over the weekend at ET :) [14:33] betcha we do :) [14:35] once again I should have just let the trailing stop alone [14:36] I could/should have had 100 YM points [14:37] NQ still hasn't made new intraday lows after such a steep drop. [14:38] Monday I'm going to be looking for any price rise and then I'll be looking for Short signals that may appear after a price rise. [14:55] cya monday [14:57] * NihabaAsh is now known as NihabaAshi_away [15:03] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [16:12] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [17:24] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [18:36] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [19:05] * Disconnected Session Close: Fri May 13 19:05:13 2005