Session Start: Tue May 10 09:29:54 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:29] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:29] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [09:33] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1172.50 -> small size  [09:34] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1172  [09:36] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1172.75 --> - 0.75  [09:40] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1172.75  [09:40] 0,4 Shorts ZN @ 111-035  [09:41] uh oh [09:41] If we haven't movedin my favor by a tick by the time I post, I usually get killed :( [09:41] like the zn short m618 [09:42] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 597.8 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:42] Too much of a fight so far in ES in comparison to YM. [09:45] 0,2 Covered all Short ER2 at 598.4 --> - 0.6 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:45] :( [09:45] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1172.5 --> + 0.25  [09:45] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [09:46] niha what you think about the gap in ES [09:46] . [09:47] , [09:47] ; [09:48] { [09:48] funny boys [09:48] its gonna be one of those days [09:48] PFBs at .25? [09:49] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1172.5  [09:49] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 597.80  [09:50] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 597.4 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:50] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1172.50  [09:51] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1172 --> + 0.5  [09:51] I'm gonna nickel and dime this thing to death [09:52] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1171.75 --> + 0.75  [09:52] And Nihaba's gonna help ;) [09:53] Dang there's the 71 I wanted :P [09:53] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 596.90 --> + 0.9  [09:53] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 596.9 --> + 0.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:53] Same here...I wanted that to be my pt1 and exited 1/3 a little early because I thought ET had too much of a fight in it. [09:53] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 597.4 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:54] I would not have gotten a fill at 71 tho only about 900 contracts traded [09:54] 0,3 Long YM @ 10330  [09:56] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1172.25 --> + 0.25  [09:56] If it's tuff shorting - that suggests we're going up [09:57] 0,3 Long ES @ 1172.0 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:57] 0,2 Covered all ER2 Short @ 598.0 --> - 0.2  [10:00] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10321 --> - 9  [10:00] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1171 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:00] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10322  [10:00] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1171.75 -> large size  [10:02] Ooops... [10:02] Reposting... [10:02] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1170.75 -> large size  [10:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1171.5  [10:04] 1,4Red Alert1,0 Lots of 4red1 in #FuturesTrades :( [10:05] 0,3 Long YM @ 10324  [10:09] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1171 --> + 0.5  [10:09] Gettin rich today, boy ;) [10:10] ic u retiring by friday [10:10] YM is the better trade again...I won't make that mistake 3x in the same day :( [10:10] sweatin for those ticks [10:12] TICK breaking out? [10:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1172.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:16] Crap. [10:16] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1172.25 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:17] Yeah Nihaba, that pretty much sums up market action so far today :( [10:17] yeah [10:17] sucks [10:18] Every breakout/breakdown is immediately jumped on. [10:18] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10329 --> + 5  [10:18] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1171.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:19] NNot paper [10:20] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10312 --> + 10  [10:21] Die already [10:22] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10337  [10:22] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1169.75 --> + 1  [10:23] Major problems here...I lost access to some of my exchanges...I'm only getting delayed data (10min delay) on ER2 and YM...weird [10:24] Time for some phone calls to data provider :( [10:25] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1170.75 --> + 0.5  [10:27] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1170.75  [10:27] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1170.75 --> 0  [10:28] Just lost my ES data :( [10:32] Niha.. is there an indicator that tracks the 'transaction' volume?... not actual volume? [10:32] What do you mean by transaction volume ? [10:34] 0,3 Long YM @ 10327  [10:34] well... let's say there during this 3min candle the volume is 3000 shares.. but the transactions is 100 [10:35] then the next candle volume is 6000 shares.. but the transactions is 50 [10:35] transactions = filled order i guess??? [10:35] = exchange of shares [10:36] got it? [10:36] Time and Sales [10:36] right.. but [10:36] tick chart? [10:36] is there a chart for it jp [10:37] no tlt.. tick chart would only place bars/candles based on the number of ticks YOU specify [10:37] Quotetracker plots the Ask-Bid sales as a chart [10:38] hmm... ok... limme look into this some more on esignal [10:38] don't think Esignal provides this [10:38] PapaJohn ...What do you want to check with that ? the big boy activities ? [10:39] sortuv msipe [10:40] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10315 --> - 12  [10:40] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10315  [10:40] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10316.00 -> large size  [10:41] There ya go, Szu :) [10:41] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1169.5 --> + 1.25  [10:41] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10306 --> + 9  [10:41] Finally a decent trad3 :) [10:42] if u cant beat them, join them [10:42] 0,2 Covered 1/3 YM Short @ 10305.00 --> + 11  [10:42] And there was much rejoicing in #FutresTrades ;) [10:42] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10328  [10:43] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10315.00  [10:43] WE still have really good odds of a new RTH HOD or LOD to come [10:43] or both [10:43] lol [10:44] good forecasting there [10:44] That forecast plus a credit card can get you groceries ;) [10:44] or a hard tiem [10:44] **time [10:44] 0,2 Covered 1/3 YM Short @ 10310.00 --> + 6  [10:45] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10315.00 --> + 1  [10:45] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10315 --> 0  [10:48] 0,3 Long YM @ 10314  [10:49] Yep...I think what Papa is looking for is something that filters the T&S. [10:50] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1173.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:52] Globex does things with orders that aren't intuitive. Once I ha a fill during a very slow time, so I could check it out. [10:52] I bought 1 contract on the bid, but there weren't any 1 contract orders on T&S, just 5 and higher. [10:53] yes and no niha [10:54] i can filter t&s via its min size, etc. but [10:54] am looking for a comparison, graphically to compare no. of trans. to vol [10:55] kinda like a ratio comparison [10:55] TS can chart in number of transactions [10:55] it can? [10:55] have you ever done it? [10:55] Nope. But tick charts use either trade vol or tick count [10:56] I use trade vol [10:56] but thats a tick chart .. right? [10:56] * FFT nods [10:57] well... then yu are determining the tick count.. not quite right .. ithink [10:57] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [10:57] Right. You can set it so each bar represetns the prcie range over 100 trades or 100 contracts traded. [10:58] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10304 --> - 10  [10:58] :( [10:59] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10320  [10:59] 0,3 Long YM @ 10305  [11:01] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10311 --> + 6  [11:03] Kinda looking like we've found a bottom, mayhaps [11:03] 0,3 Long YM @ 10308  [11:06] Darn, I was hoping to get a signal before we lifted off [11:06] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10316 --> + 8  [11:07] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10320 --> + 2  [11:07] 0,3 Long YM @ 10320  [11:08] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10319  [11:10] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10315 --> + 4  [11:11] * LesC is now known as les [11:16] 0,3 Long YM @ 10314  [11:17] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10320 --> + 6  [11:46] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10313 --> - 7  [11:46] :(( [11:51] 0,3 Long ES @ 1169.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:51] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1168 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:52] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1168.5 --> - 0.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:53] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 1172.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:53] oops [11:53] system crash screwed the script postings up [11:53] reposting: [11:53] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1171 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:53] 0,3 Long ES @ 1168.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:54] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1172 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:57] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1168.25 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [11:57] that es short entry of mine was at about 9:52 [11:58] could be more downside coming [12:09] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [12:25] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1171.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:49] 0,2 stop hit ES @ 1171.5 --> - 0.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:06] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10310  [13:13] Tlt im thinking the low for the day is in, now they go for the gapper [13:14] could be [13:14] i almost bought that rally but never had a good entry [13:18] 0,3 Long YM @ 10318  [13:21] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:28] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10329 --> + 11  [13:28] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10318  [13:29] Good, i read the Price Action nicely. [13:31] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10336 --> + 26  [13:31] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short YM @ 10336  [13:31] that was reverse long [13:31] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10336 --> 0  [13:31] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long YM @ 10336  [13:32] ok Short to Long? [13:33] yes [13:38] just noticed that +26 should be -26 [13:39] thats what happens when your screaming and typing at the same time [13:44] :).. just leave the furniture alone [13:44] i broke a desk top with my fist a couple of years ago [13:52] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10318 --> 0  [14:03] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10316  [14:06] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10316.00 -> large size  [14:08] :) [14:08] careful [14:08] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10313 --> - 23  [14:08] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short YM @ 10313  [14:08] heheh.. must be good signal for you [14:09] TLT sometimes its good just to take a break [14:10] would jumping out the window count? :) [14:10] :( [14:10] :} [14:10] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10316.00 --> 0  [14:10] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long YM @ 10316.00  [14:11] Geesh... [14:12] Gonna hold this just a little longer... [14:12] thats what I said, twice [14:13] Usually when YM moves in my favor by +5 points...my stop goes to breakeven... [14:14] I decided not to move it to breakeven this particular trade to give it a little more breathing room. [14:14] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10316.00  [14:15] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10326  [14:15] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10326 --> - 10  [14:17] hard to keep your cool when they do these stunts [14:19] :( [14:19] I gave it a lotta room and just wasn't in the cards for a big mover... [14:19] I'm done for the day. [14:19] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10316.00 --> 0  [14:29] hi all [14:30] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [14:37] Hi zizinio...its been awhile. [14:38] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10308  [14:38] hello Niha [14:39] I was on a long Holiday:) [14:39] See all tomorrow...my last two trade that resulted in breakeven set me up nicely to call it quits for the day...as soon as I closed my broker platform...my best trade signal appeared and its still dropping... [14:39] Currently at a pt2...without me :( [14:40] Now at a pt3. [14:41] Who saids timing isn't important. [14:41] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [14:41] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10263 --> + 50  [14:41] i hate that [14:42] i know i shouldn't be emotional but WHOA HOO! [14:44] 0,2 Covered all ZN Short @ 111'115 --> + 111-035 - 111'115  [14:48] pretty nice there TLT [14:48] thanx, i feel redeemed :) [14:49] looks like i won't be jump'n out the window after all [14:50] on the wise advise of szu I'm going to take the rest of the day off, cya tomorrow guys [14:58] Well I'm done for the day. See ya all tomorrow [15:06] 0,3 Long YM @ 10261  [15:32] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10261 --> 0  [15:42] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [16:54] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [17:01] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [17:02] * Disconnected Session Close: Tue May 10 17:02:16 2005