Session Start: Tue Apr 26 09:31:09 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:31] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:31] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [09:35] ConCon & New Home Sales @ 10 [09:40] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1161.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:41] 0,3 Long ES @ 61.75 [09:42] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1160.75 -> small size [09:42] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1160.75 --> + 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:42] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1161.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:42] BE+.25 [09:43] 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 60.75 --> - 1 [09:44] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1160.5 --> + 1.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:45] 0,3 Buys ER2 @ 593.2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:46] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10215 [09:46] 0,2 Covered 2/3 ES Short @ 1159.75 --> + 1 [09:46] 0,2 Exited 1/3 Long ER2 at 592.7 --> - 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:46] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 593.2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:47] Lucky trade...I made an entry error (no signal). [09:47] mistake.. [09:47] my trade was short [09:47] so +.05 [09:47] now out for remainder @ 0.0 [09:50] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1160.50 --> + 0.25 [09:52] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1161.5 --> + 0.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:53] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10225 [09:57] numbers in 3 min [09:58] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10210 --> + 5 [09:59] ConCon can move the market [09:59] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 593.60 -> small size [10:00] market expecting 98 [10:00] I expect a move on this number - at least one. [10:00] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10214 --> + 1 [10:00] :( [10:00] 97.7 [10:00] Pop then drop? [10:01] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 594.60 -> Add [10:01] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1161 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:01] Pop then drop v good! [10:02] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1159.5 --> + 1.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:02] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1160.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:02] BNE+.5 [10:02] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1160.50 [10:02] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1159.75 --> + 0.75 [10:02] FFT YUP. They had to get Stops first [10:03] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1158.75 --> + 2.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:03] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 593.00 --> + 1.6 [10:03] Come on runner! [10:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1158.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:05] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 59 [10:07] 0,2 Covered ER2 Short @ 591.50 --> + 2.1 [10:07] Holding 2 contracts [10:08] Geesh...what a bounce. [10:08] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1159.50 [10:09] 0,2 Covered ER2 Short @ 593.60 --> 0 [10:09] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 593.60 [10:09] Nice Trade Niha. Profit is Profit [10:10] 0,3 Long YM @ 10214 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:10] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1160.5 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:10] 0,2 Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 594.60 --> + 1 [10:10] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 593.60 [10:11] nice reversal niha... :) [10:11] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1160.25 -> Add [10:12] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10195 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 593.60 --> 0 [10:12] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1159.25 --> + 1.25 [10:13] I dont like it when the 5min candles are more then 20+ points. Too much risk for me [10:14] in that case, szu.... [10:14] i recommend u only look at 6min candles [10:15] :) [10:15] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 60.50 --> - 1.5 [10:17] 0,3 Long ER2 @ 595.70 -> large size [10:18] :( [10:18] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10230 [10:18] 0,2 Exited all ER2 Long @ 595.70 --> 0 [10:19] Crap...I tried to get Long @ 593.80 [10:19] * FFT shorted and covered at 62.5 [10:19] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10224 --> + 6 [10:20] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1161.50 [10:21] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 61.75 [10:23] 0,3 Buys ER2 @ 596.2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:23] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1162 -> Add [10:23] 0,2 Exited 1/3 Long ER2 at 596.7 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:24] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 596.2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:25] 0,2 stop hit ER2 @ 596.2 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:25] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10214 --> + 16 [10:26] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1161.25 --> + 1 [10:27] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 596.00 -> large size [10:28] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 596.00 [10:29] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10211 [10:31] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 595.70 --> + 0.3 [10:31] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10221 [10:32] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 596.00 --> 0 [10:32] :( [10:32] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 61.75 --> 0 [10:32] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10221 --> - 10 [10:33] trade management error...it hit my pt at 595.00 and I didn't realize it was a pt level until it bounced back up to 595.60 :( [10:34] 0,3 Long YM @ 10224 [10:35] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1161.50 [10:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1162.25 -> Add [10:37] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10203 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:38] 0,3 Long ES @ 62.25 [10:38] YM, ES Stuck [10:41] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [10:41] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 596.7 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:44] ER,NQ new highs YM,ES Stuck frikin amazing [10:45] 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 63.50 --> + 1.25 [10:45] 0,2 Covered all Short ER2 at 597.6 --> - 0.9 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:45] yech [10:46] I picked the wrong contract to play today [10:48] I'm a little slow today...missed a few Long signals... [10:48] However, I was Long back at 593.60 (chased it) and had no wiggle room to survive the retracement :( [10:48] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10231 --> + 7 [10:48] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10224 [10:52] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10216 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:52] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1165.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:54] No ES trades? [10:55] Anybody getting ES trades? [10:55] nope [10:55] no data [10:55] I'm getting data from TS and IB on other stuff, but no ES rtades [10:55] same here in UK [10:55] No ES here [10:56] must be exchange server [10:56] es does seem to be stuck here too (IB) [10:56] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10249 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:56] Big boys must be really ready to run this thing if they shut down CME to set it up :( [10:56] else they having a short day in Chicago, but no-one's told us [10:57] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10259 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:58] dang lots of quote problems lately as if trading didnt keep me busy enough [10:59] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10259 --> - 10 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:59] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10229 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:00] Most of my profits today came from shorting (that initial push down)... [11:00] However...looking at the charts at this very moment...I obviously missed the train :( [11:01] SMH might be toppping off [11:03] Globex is down [11:03] server probs [11:04] ES related only obviously [11:04] good example here of why you should have a stop in the market [11:04] yes [11:04] les IF Globex was down, then u woudnt be getting ANY quotes, not just ES [11:04] or be in a papaertrade like i am now :) [11:05] agree szu [11:05] my broker just informed me that the problem with es is to do with the Globex quotes [11:06] Lets see if i can get thru IB :| [11:07] IB broadcast Globex probs with ES, and now TS just did so as well. [11:08] The CME has informed us that it is currently experiencing a general inability to deliver real-time data for the e-mini S&P 500 futures.Â We have been in contact with the CME and will be providing more information as it becomes available. [11:08] Big Spoos 66 [11:08] from TS [11:08] Tue Apr 26 11:07:34 2005 EST GLOBEX has reported problems with their ES market. They are currently rejecting all orders. We will post more details as they become available [11:09] its that cheap software they keep importing from us here in the UK [11:09] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10257 --> + 33 [11:10] Anybody know what happens when ES resumes? [11:11] My guess, it's gonna go like a Spring Break Video at a Free and Open Bar. [11:11] Very wild [11:11] i can that very accurately square [11:11] no blinking red message from IB [11:11] its gonna go up [11:11] gotto keep our fingers crossed sq64 [11:11] unless it goes down or sideways [11:11] HTH :) [11:11] WBAT I got IB bulletined [11:12] I bet it goes all over the place. We'll see. [11:12] GLOBEX has reported problems with their ES market. They are [11:12] currently rejecting all orders. We will post more details as [11:12] thats the IB message [11:12] Spoos still 66 [11:14] i just got my fft [11:14] this is bad [11:16] I have some other functions (not related to reading) hat are out...must be an internet problem [11:16] Man, I'm surprised they haven't got us back OL yet [11:16] TICK tankin [11:16] I have no ES quotes :( [11:16] Stopped dead in their tracks. [11:16] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10255 --> + 41 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:17] Yeah Nihaba, Globex ES is down. [11:17] YM seems to be dropping, so no hedge for short ES position [11:17] [11:08] Tue Apr 26 11:07:34 2005 EST GLOBEX has reported problems with their ES market. They are currently rejecting all orders. We will post more details as they become available [11:17] S&P index might have a doulbe top [11:17] 116570 [11:19] SMH coming in [11:21] Going by the drop in the YM and NQ my short in ES would probably now be in profit :( [11:22] Check the SPYs, Square [11:22] 500=1 ES [11:23] Just in profit [11:23] Cannot close :( [11:23] There was this TV commericial for soem department store that had this yearly sale and this lady tapping her fingers against the glass at the closed store sayin "Open, open, open". I feel like that. [11:24] Square, hedge with the SPYs or the Spoos [11:24] anyone have RT big s&p quotes? [11:24] 30 bid 1/2 [11:25] 4.5x4.7 [11:25] 5 even [11:25] 5 even [11:25] ty fft [11:25] That too [11:26] This is completely maddening [11:27] sq64 you long? [11:27] Short ES, just around b/e [11:27] they will probably bust trades [11:27] Including all positions that were live when the feed went down? [11:27] All the profitable ones, anyway [11:28] who knows [11:28] :) [11:29] Of course, worst of all worlds is you hedge, the hedge goes down, they bust the original trade. [11:30] that would suck [11:31] NAw, they're not gonna bust trades prior to say 10:50 AM EDT [11:31] 0,2 Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10244 --> + 30 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:42] Uh oh, we might be turning around [11:43] My hedge is now in profit, which starts to get worrying. [11:44] By my guess the Spoos is about 65.5 or so right now [11:46] Somebody on ET wrote that Globex was down for most of a day a couple years ago. Musta missed that day. [11:47] Spoos 4.5x4.7 [11:51] CME getting ready to restart ES on Globex. All day orders are going to be cancelled. Going to be a pre-opening period to re-enter stops. [11:53] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [11:53] PJ word on ET is they will repoen soon, cancelling all day orders. [11:55] Spoos 4 even on the bid [11:55] Square if you haven't hedged yet, get exit order(s) ready to xmit, cuz your previous ones will be canceled. [11:57] Thx [11:57] Hedged [11:57] Hedge now in the red.... [11:57] With SPYs or Spoos? [11:58] Imperfect hedge: ym [11:58] Yuck [11:59] :( [12:12] es mini CME update - [12:12] S&P E-mini Update [12:12] Â [12:12] We received the following message from GLOBEX: [12:12] Â [12:12] PriorÂ to the market re-openingÂ all day and, or session orders will be cancelled. Customers will be able to enter newÂ ordersÂ during the pre-opening period. At this point the exchange has not yet announced a pre-open time.Â [12:12] emini where did you get that info from? [12:12] TS [12:13] client news/alerts [12:14] Thx :) [12:15] Spoos 63.7 [12:16] guess if u have no open orders this does not count ? meaning if u were in and out of a trade before the stoppage - do those trades count ? anyone know [12:16] ? [12:16] Yeah, those trades will stand/. [12:17] SO far, there's no reason to cancel any trades that I can see. [12:18] thx fft [12:18] Yer welcome [12:19] I expect they'll give us 15 or so minutes warning before they reopen, cancel all open day orders, and allow us to submit new orders a few minutes before they reopen. [12:20] so this effects only open orders prior to the stoppage .Got it [12:21] Yeah. They cancel them on account of how the market has changed since they were entered, but give folks chance to submit new ones, or resubmit old ones. [12:40] 0,6 sell stop to enter short YM @ 10220 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:55] ER2 just burped :) [12:56] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 593.70 -> small size [12:56] Reposting... [12:56] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 593.70 -> small size [12:58] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 593.70 [13:02] 0,4 Short YM @ 10220 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:02] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 592.80 --> + 0.9 [13:03] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 593.60 [13:03] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10235 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:04] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10211 --> + 9 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:04] Any more news about ES? [13:04] Nope :( [13:05] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:05] I'm hoping for ER2 to put in a big red down candle prior to attempting a counter-thrust. [13:06] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10210 [13:06] darn good short [13:09] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 591.70 --> + 2 [13:16] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10217 --> + 3 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:17] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10220 --> - 10 [13:18] Thats what i get for shorting big down candle in the middle of the day :)) [13:20] I was looking for one (big red candle) on the 3min chart to dump my remainder before any bounce...I didn't get what I wanted and I'm still short. [13:24] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10205 [13:28] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10199 --> + 6 [13:28] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10205 [13:28] 1:45 reopen [13:28] they gonna prolly take it back up LOL [13:29] :) [13:30] square 64 - latest on cme E-Mini S&P are set to re-open at 12:45. [13:30] Pre-open is to start at 12:30 Chicago time [13:30] e-mini - [13:30] I wonder if there's stats somewhere about how the other Eminis perform when one of their sisters is closed ??? [13:31] 1.45 est pre-open @ 1.30 est [13:31] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10205 --> 0 [13:31] :(( [13:34] Yeah, globex is taking orders now [13:34] 0,3 Long YM @ 10206 [13:35] es bid/ask being balanced 60.25/61 currently [13:36] THey might be settling at 60.25 for the open [13:40] That doesn't seem to bear any relation to the other contracts [13:40] Interesting to see what happens in 5 mins from now [13:40] It's inline with the S&P index and the SPYders [13:40] At the moment, anyway ;) [13:42] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10209 --> + 3 [13:44] We just might open on the start of a selling wave for the rest of the market [13:46] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1160.75 --> + 2.25 [13:47] That was the most unpleasant trade I have ever experienced [13:48] welcome to the Club. [13:49] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1160.75 -> small size [13:50] If I hadn't hedged, it would have been one of my better days... [13:57] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1162 -> Add [14:00] Be back in 30mins...will post late trade result if my trailing stop 593.60 is hit. [14:00] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [14:04] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1161 --> + 0.75 [14:04] Yeah Square. I forgot about margin requirements LOL. I tried to hedge my short with a bunch of SPys and didn't have the cash. [14:05] You need about 30k margined worth of SPys for each contract :( [14:06] :( indeed [14:06] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10206 --> 0 [14:06] My problem was that when I hedged my short, the market tanked. [14:06] So I took the hedge off... [14:07] Market tanked some more... [14:07] Put it back on again... [14:07] Market tanked some more.... [14:07] Original short did OK [14:08] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10200 [14:10] geez i got a bad entry [14:11] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10211 --> - 11 [14:15] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10199 [14:15] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1158.50 -> small size [14:16] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1158 --> + 0.5 [14:16] I keep thinking this will now bounce, but it looks like a trend afternoon. [14:16] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10191 --> + 8 [14:16] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [14:17] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10199 [14:17] 0,2 Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 589.50 --> + 4.2 [14:17] I got my big red candle :) [14:17] via the 15min chart [14:18] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [14:18] So are you going long? [14:18] Not unless I get a trade signal. [14:19] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10199 --> 0 [14:20] :( right back to take my Runner [14:33] 0,3 Long ES @ 1158 -> small size [14:35] 0,3 Long YM @ 10193 [14:37] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10202 --> + 9 [14:37] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10193 [14:37] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1159.25 --> + 1.25 [14:39] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10194 --> + 1 [14:44] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 589.8 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:44] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1157.75 [14:45] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 589.3 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:46] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 589.5 --> + 0.3 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:47] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 589.8 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:52] 0,3 Long ES @ 1157.50 -> small size [14:53] 0,3 Buys ES @ 590.1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:57] 0,2 Exited Long ES @ 588.8 --> - 1.3 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:57] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 588.8 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:58] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 588.4 --> + 0.4 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:01] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 588.5 --> + 0.3 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:11] 0,3 Buys ER2 @ 589.8 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:18] 0,2 Exited all Long ER2 at 589.5 --> - 0.3 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:20] cya all tmorrow. [15:28] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [16:37] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [17:01] . [17:19] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1155.50 --> + 3.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [17:49] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [19:01] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [20:10] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [21:14] * Disconnected Session Close: Tue Apr 26 21:14:24 2005