Session Start: Wed Apr 13 09:34:22 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:34] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:34] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [09:34] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:36] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1188.5 --> - 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:36] yw [09:41] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1188 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:42] good chance mkt stay here till oil report imho [09:43] good chance it'll stay here anyway :( [09:44] early chop ... [09:45] yeah whats new [09:50] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10518 [09:52] boy... THIS is exciting... [09:52] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1187.5 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:53] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10508 --> + 10 [09:53] Oilk at 10:30, I thought? [09:53] Oil that is [09:53] spose to be.. yes [09:53] Black Gold. Texas Tea. ;) [09:54] decomposed dinosaur guts [09:54] "Oil that is" is a line from the Beverly Hillbillies theme song - didn't realize it until I typed it. [09:54] hehe... OK Jed [09:56] 0,3 Long ES @ 1187.25 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [09:56] 0,3 Long YM @ 10512 [09:57] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1187.75 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [09:57] 0,3 Buys ER2 @ 613 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:59] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10509 --> - 3 [10:00] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long ER2 at 613.5 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:01] 0,6 exit stop set ER2 @ 613 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:02] Hmmmm breakdown possible? [10:04] buyers just spinning their wheels so far... [10:04] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 612 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:05] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short ER2 at 611.5 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:05] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 612 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:06] 0,2 stop hit ER2 @ 612 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:10] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 611.4 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 610.9 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 611.4 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] pat255...please see pm I just sent you. [10:14] 0,3 Long ES @ 1186.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:14] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1186.5 --> + 0.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:15] 0,3 Long YM @ 10507 [10:15] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [10:16] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1186.25 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:17] Punks [10:17] 0,3 Long YM @ 10506 [10:19] 0,2 stop hit ER2 @ 611.4 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:20] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10510 --> + 4 [10:22] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:23] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187. [10:24] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187.0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:26] OK, which one of you turkeys is buying at .75? [10:26] ;) [10:26] lol [10:27] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1186.5 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:27] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1187 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:29] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10500 [10:29] me FFT - cept i'm buying er2 [10:29] Oilr report says "We're all out. Everybody go home." ;) [10:29] that any help? [10:30] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10512 --> + 5 [10:30] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10507 [10:30] I really need to incorporate that buying and selling into my strategies [10:30] 0,3 Long YM @ 10512 [10:31] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10527 --> + 15 [10:31] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1189.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:33] Will this be a repeat performance like yesterday or just fizzle and trade back down to where it started at before the pop. [10:34] Feels like the boys are holding it here until they get their positions on :( [10:35] Buyers at .75 again? Sheesh [10:35] Lets see if they at least test Yersturday's High [10:35] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 612.8 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:35] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1188 --> + 1.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:36] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10521 [10:36] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short ER2 at 612.3 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:36] 0,6 exit stop set ER2 @ 612.7 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:37] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 612.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:37] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10515 --> + 6 [10:38] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 612.2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:38] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1187.5 --> + 1.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:39] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 612 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:39] * FFT sets stop BE+.25 at 1189 paper [10:40] 0,2 stop hit ER2 @ 612 --> + 0.8 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:41] There's some weakness here...if it pushes downwards hard...I'm short.... [10:41] Prolly go tag my stop before tanking for good, lol [10:44] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10515 [10:45] Won't chase...missed my NQ Short entry @ 1484.50 [10:46] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10514 --> + 1 [10:46] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10507 --> 0 [10:47] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1188.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:47] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1186.00 --> + 1 [10:47] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10505 [10:48] Sink it baby [10:48] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 610.6 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:49] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 610.1 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:49] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1185.75 --> + 1.25 [10:50] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1186.25 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:50] 6 points is pretty much the minimum range we should expect today, one more point than we have so far. [10:50] Yesterday I caught the train...so far it looks like I may have missed it today :( [10:52] 0,3 Long ES @ 1186 [10:52] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 610.6 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:52] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1188 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:54] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10499 --> + 6 [10:54] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10505 [10:55] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10505 --> 0 [10:55] No train so far [10:56] 0,3 Long YM @ 10503 [10:58] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10505 --> + 2 [11:01] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 610.4 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:02] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 609.9 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:03] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1186.75 --> + 2.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:04] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 690.4 --> - 80 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:04] oops [11:05] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 609.4 --> + 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:05] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 610.2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:05] nice les [11:05] thx [11:05] 10:45] Won't chase...missed my NQ Short entry @ 1484.50 [11:05] That sucks. [11:06] i'm hoping this heads for yesterday low @ 6081. [11:07] 601'ish ya mean? [11:08] 608.1 [11:08] yest open, sorry [11:08] ah [11:08] i would prefer the low.. hehe [11:09] true : [11:09] but lotta support in that area on er2 daily [11:09] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184 -> Add [11:10] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10486 [11:11] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10489 --> - 3 [11:13] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 609.4 --> + 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1185.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:21] Even female traders are tuff: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/050412/photos_od_afp/050412182416_3qg15yv0_photo0&e=10&ncid=1778 [11:22] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1185 --> + 0.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:22] FFT - i saw the TV interview with her yesterday [11:22] How'd she sound? [11:23] said she couldnt bear the insult of someone trying to rob her [11:23] said she took the mugging attempt as a personal affront [11:24] wouldnt like to meet her on the trading floor [11:25] Nope :) [11:27] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [11:34] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1186.25 --> + 2.5 [11:40] S nq 84.5 for scalp [11:44] looks like consolidate here ...:( [11:45] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:50] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187 [11:51] out +1 tick ...sigh [11:54] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1188.75 --> - 1.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:55] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1186.25 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:55] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1186.50 --> + 0.5 [11:56] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1186.25 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:07] k guys back to the office ..ty all [12:22] 0,3 Long ES @ 1185 -> small size [12:39] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [12:55] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1186 --> + 1 [12:55] I'm just too many steps behind today...missing trade signals and refusing to chase prices today after such a big move yesterday. [12:58] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:59] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1187 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:59] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1186.74 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:59] Doh - one more time [12:59] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1186.74 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:59] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1186.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:03] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10511 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:04] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1186 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:04] * Retrieving #FuturesTrades modes... [13:05] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1186.5 --> + 0.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:08] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10508 --> + 3 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:09] Nice trade cervenca. [13:10] my quotes stopped in Ym now , want out of trade [13:10] I have YM at 104500 [13:11] Ooop... [13:11] 10498 [13:11] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10498 --> + 13 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:13] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [13:22] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:23] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1183.25 --> - 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:23] no YM Quotes here [13:23] 15 minutes later IB messages ECbot not available for trading [13:31] 0,3 Long ES @ 1182.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:47] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [13:48] cervenca...that sucks...would you have covered had IB quotes been available ? [13:49] Eminis has given back more than 1/2 of yesterday's impressive gains. [13:51] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:59] Some poor guy was Long 60 YM contracts before ECBOT crashed :( [13:59] http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=47981 [14:00] Gotta not be afraid to have either a backup broker or to trade another trading instrument as a hedge for situations like this that happens a few times per year. [14:01] Maybe next time it won't be ECBOT fault but that IB system is down. [14:01] Or vice versa. [14:11] good idea NIha , couls have just shorted ES when ECBOT crashed [14:11] could [14:11] can you get out of a trade at IB by phoning them ? [14:14] Usually, and in theory yes. But see the thread on ET for a contrary report. [14:15] their c/s not always that great [14:28] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1179 -> small size [14:32] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1178.25 --> + 0.75 [14:47] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1179.75 --> - 6.25 [14:47] bad post [14:47] lol [14:48] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10440 [14:50] The guy stuck with the YM contracts could have hedged himself out via options, if he was prepared for it ... doesn't look as if he was though. [14:52] Well in trading you learn something new EVERYDAY [14:53] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10431 --> + 9 [14:53] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10440 [14:55] 0,3 Long ES @ 1177 [15:00] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [15:19] Wow...ES and NQ has given back all of yesterday's gains. [15:19] YM and ER2 closing in on that fact also. [15:22] Well...its official...that uptrend from yesterday has now evaporated. [15:25] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10404 --> + 36 [15:26] Nice szu. [15:26] Thanks. [15:27] I hope that guy that was stuck in his Longs for 60 contracts had a big day yesterday to compensate for today's problem. [15:39] ? [15:39] Who was that? [15:43] nm found out how that scroll bar works ;) [15:47] If we close down here (and I don't see how we can avoid it) this is gonna be some bad technicals for the markets. [16:12] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [17:24] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [18:13] still long my ES position, going to hold it overnight -- first time I've done it. [18:13] let's see what happens. [18:13] cya all tomorrow. [18:35] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [19:48] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [21:00] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [22:00] * Disconnected Session Close: Wed Apr 13 22:00:37 2005