Session Start: Thu Mar 31 08:31:29 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [08:31] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [08:31] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [08:33] gm all [08:33] Doing some trade post script testing... [08:36] morn all [08:38] 0,3 Long ES @ 3.00 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:38] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 5.00 --> + 2 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:39] a ha working .. [08:39] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 56.00 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:39] Nope... [08:39] That last one is ER2 :( [08:42] 0,3 Long ER2 @ 76.00 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:42] 0,2 Exited all ER2 Long @ 71.00 --> - 5 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:43] 0,4 Shorts EuroFX @ 5.89 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:43] 0,2 Covered all EuroFX Short @ 4.98 --> + 0.91 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:44] 0,4 Shorts ZN @ 1200.00 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:44] 0,2 Covered all ZN Short @ 1400.00 --> - 200 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [08:45] pat255...sorry I missed your question yesterday... [08:45] Will respond now... [08:45] np niha ...geez i did not realise i was yammering to myself...but figured out most of the stuff.. [08:46] Ok...posting my reply in #EminiFutures [08:53] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [08:57] * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Mar 31 08:57:12 2005 Session Start: Thu Mar 31 09:29:02 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:29] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:29] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [09:29] would be fun [09:30] Wonder if Matrix will show? Two days ago he was doubling down on longs as we tanked hard. Then yesterday he was a no show. [09:30] maybe he is hanging out with AMT4 [09:30] :)) [09:31] Ya know, when he started doubling down and kept adding I checked his IP to see if he was from Austin ;) [09:32] Frequently after a nice trend day, the next day will be a bit rangey and a bit of a retrace. Maybe that will happen again today. [09:32] hehe... fft the conspiracy PI [09:32] its the end of the quarter though FFT [09:33] So what does that suggest to you, WBAT? [09:33] window dressing rally [09:33] Lots of fairly boring econ news at 10 [09:35] March 30th 2004 (end of 1st quarter) S&P closed down for the day [09:35] ~-8 from the open [09:36] I wonder if statisitically that suggests an up day for today. [09:36] only if ya spell it right :) [09:37] oil is the real influence [09:38] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1184 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:40] Strong bidders :( [09:40] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1184.5 --> - 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:41] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184.5 [09:41] 0,3 Long YM @ 10535 [09:41] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10534 [09:42] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1185.5 --> + 1 [09:44] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10545 --> + 10 [09:44] Geez, more upside potential? Q [09:44] Looks like the market likes your theory, WBAT :) [09:47] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10549 -> Add [09:47] day aint over yet fft... [09:47] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 616.8 [09:47] Paper [09:49] Holy moly, my indeies might be getting together to say yet another trend day. [09:49] Whoops, nope, not yet [09:49] 0,2 Covered all ER2 Short @ 616.4 --> + 0.4 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:50] * FFT shorts ER2 @ 627 (paper) [09:51] 617 [09:51] * FFT covers @ 616.4 +.6 [09:52] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1497.00 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:54] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1187 [09:56] 0,2 Covered all NQ Short @ 1495.00 --> + 2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:56] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10535 --> + 13 [09:57] Bizzarre candle on SMH one minute (fat fingered buyer?) [09:58] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1188.25 [09:58] Terri Shiavo died [09:59] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1187 --> 0 [10:03] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10539.00 -> small size 4,0 ŤŤ testing ťť [10:03] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10537 [10:03] That's a real trade [10:03] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1185.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:04] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10539.00 [10:06] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [10:06] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10528 --> + 9 [10:06] 0,2 Covered 1/3 YM Short @ 10529.00 --> + 10 [10:06] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10537 [10:07] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1185 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:07] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1184.75 --> + 3.5 [10:07] ? [10:07] Should be +1.5 [10:07] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10538.00 [10:08] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1185.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:10] Lotta bidders here at 4.75 [10:10] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1184.5 --> + 1.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:11] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1185.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184.25 [10:12] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1183.75 --> - 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:13] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1185 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:14] 0,3 Long YM @ 10523 [10:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1184 [10:15] oil dragging the mkt down [10:16] yup 55 should have been a R for crude and its well above that now [10:16] 0,2 Covered 1/3 YM Short @ 10518.00 --> + 21 [10:20] 0,2 stop hit ES @ 1185 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:22] Niha your S setup was similar to the bearish setups u described ... [10:25] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10529 --> + 6 [10:26] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10529 --> + 8 [10:27] 0,3 Long YM @ 10530 [10:28] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10530.00 --> + 9 [10:29] 0,3 Long EuroFX @ 1.29870 -> small size [10:30] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 614.7 [10:31] 0,6 exit stop set ER2 @ 615,20 [10:31] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 615,20 --> + 614.7 - 615,20 [10:31] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1185.50 [10:33] 0,2 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10535 --> + 5 [10:33] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10530 [10:33] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10534 4,0 ŤŤ Scalp ťť [10:33] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10530 --> 0 [10:36] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10528 --> + 6 4,0 ŤŤ Scalp ťť [10:37] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1184.50 --> + 1 [10:38] 0,2 Exited all EuroFX Long @ 1.29890 --> + 0.0002 [10:38] :( [10:39] I dumped my YM because I thought I could catch a nice bounce in EuroFX...didn't happen :( [10:39] 0,6 buy limit to cover ES short @ 1183.25 [10:46] 0,3 Long YM @ 10537.00 -> small size [10:47] Wow, two 400 block trades almost in a row [10:47] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1186. --> + 1.75 [10:48] Does this smell like manipulation or what? [10:49] 0,2 Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10534 --> + 11 [10:53] If YM is in some sort'uv down channel...it should at least retest the 10540.00 price area. [10:54] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1185.75 -> Add [10:54] Holy Moly, did ya see that nasty trick? strong bidders showed up at 5 even, popped it up to 86, then let it sink. [10:55] games [10:55] Come on ES, new LOD [10:55] Baby needs a new pair of shoes ;) [10:56] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1184 --> + 1.75 [10:56] hot pink stilletos? [10:57] Niha looks like u were Too Early on that Euro Long [10:58] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10520.00 --> - 17 [10:58] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short YM @ 10520.00 [10:59] Fierce freaken bidders at 3.5 :( [11:00] Same trick as before? Let's see. [11:04] szu...yes...I normally don't trade EuroFX this late...its a different price action for me...I've had problems with it before after 0930am est. [11:04] I prefer to trade it before 0930am est [11:05] It's the end of the month...figure I'll try things differently for one trading day :) [11:06] I'll be back later gotta relocate [11:06] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10530.00 --> - 10 [11:06] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long YM @ 10530.00 [11:07] 0,3 Long NQ @ 1490.50 [11:09] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1185.75 --> - 0.25 [11:09] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1186 [11:09] meant the remainder [11:09] Wow, some serious buying at 6 [11:09] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1186 --> - 2 [11:10] Talk about a rodeo ride :) [11:10] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1185.75 --> - 0.25 [11:10] re-post [11:10] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1185. --> + 1 [11:11] [09:31] <@FFT> Frequently after a nice trend day, the next day will be a bit rangey and a bit of a retrace. Maybe that will happen again today. LOks like it :) [11:11] Yep :) [11:11] z day [11:12] consoldation [11:12] ? [11:12] yep time for a nap [11:12] Usually tho we have a bit more of a retrace. FWIW [11:12] Usually by now, that is. [11:12] low adx [11:12] now [11:12] maybe it will in the pm [11:12] coil [11:13] NYSE AD line very strong - kinda argues against the usual pattern [11:13] today the market is in value [11:13] 2 sided market [11:14] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [11:16] Grrr, missed this pop - too slow :( [11:16] 0,2 Exited 1/2 NQ Long @ 1494 --> + 3.5 [11:17] the ad line has been a pretty good tell all month as to the overall bias [11:18] it will test patience in the higher time frames tho [11:23] Punch it ES, come on [11:23] Just think...I had profit targets on each trade today of +40 points :) [11:23] Got 1/2 on one particular trade :) [11:24] Meant 1/2 way and didn't make it. [11:24] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10530.00 [11:25] I was trying to catch a big mover without exceeding 5 roundtrip trades. [11:26] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven NQ @ 1490.50 [11:27] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10530.00 --> 0 [11:27] niha what stop u use for eur futs? [11:28] just curious don't play it ..this just too wild [11:28] heron is albtros. had some conection problems and it logged me on that way [11:30] wireless internet is great...till it gets moody [11:31] 0,3 Long ES @ 1186 -> medium size [11:32] pat255...wide hard stops of 0.0050 [11:33] Will use tighter mental stops to decide on trade reversals or just dumping it prior to a wide stop being hit. [11:33] gl oh man those stops will kill me...thks [11:34] I normally dump it if it goes against me like 0.0010 [11:35] i c.. [11:40] Yes. mental stops are NOT FOR ME. [11:42] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10534.00 -> small size [11:42] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1186. [11:42] Last trade and last experiment :) [11:43] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1185 --> + 1 [11:43] Looking for +40 points :) [11:44] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10534.00 [11:47] exit the rest 1490.5 nq [11:51] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184. [11:55] k guys cu alllater ...back to office [11:56] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1185.00 --> + 1 [11:58] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10533.00 --> + 1 [11:59] I'm done for the day...made enough to order a large size pizza with the works on it. [12:00] Not the ending to the month I wanted but still a great month. [12:00] with anchovies [12:00] lol [12:00] and beer? [12:00] must have beer [12:01] No beer...water because if I drink beer...toddler gets mad because he can't have any :) [12:01] hellava toddler :) [12:01] lol [12:01] I tried pizza and milk...felt like a contradiction :) [12:01] understood [12:01] my dads dog was a beer drinker [12:02] :) [12:02] nuts [12:02] only Heinakens [12:03] new RTH HOD or LOD extremely likely [12:04] If I could only tell which one :) [12:04] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1155.5 --> - 30.5 [12:04] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1185.5 --> - 0.5 [12:15] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184 [12:15] fft, oil is running up again [12:15] likely to drag the mkt down [12:17] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1183 --> - 1 [12:17] 0,3 Long ES @ 1183 [12:17] Now it drops :( [12:17] Nasty day [12:18] 0,3 Long ES @ 1182.50 [12:23] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1183.5 --> + 0.5 [12:26] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [12:36] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1184. --> + 1.5 [12:42] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10515 [12:43] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1183.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:48] ES T&S is some kinda strobe [12:51] 0,3 Long ES @ 1184 [12:51] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1184 [12:52] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1183.25 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:53] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1183.75 [12:57] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 11856 --> + 10672 [12:57] 1185 [12:57] 1 [12:57] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1184.5 --> - 0.75 [13:29] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10527 --> - 12 [13:34] Im just glad im staying away from this brutal whipsaw [13:34] 0,3 Long YM @ 10525 [13:35] This week so far has been tough for me to trade. The Price Action is just terrible [13:35] agree [13:35] no argument here [13:38] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:39] 0,3 Long YM @ 10524 -> Add [14:08] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1183.75 [14:08] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10514 --> - 21 [14:09] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1184 --> - 0.25 [14:16] 0,3 Long YM @ 10528 [14:16] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1185.75 [14:32] just got back got stopped out 1185.25 [14:32] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1185.25 --> - 1.25 [14:32] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10527 [14:35] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10531 [14:43] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10533 [14:45] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10535 [14:46] 0,3 Long YM @ 10551 [14:47] 0,6 exit stop raised YM @ 10540 [14:50] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [14:51] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10541 --> - 10 [14:51] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10541 [14:51] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10540 --> + 12 [14:51] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1186.5 --> - 0.75 [14:52] 1185.5 [14:55] had i followed my trailing stop method exactly it would have been stop YM 10535 [15:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1186.50 [15:06] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10536 --> + 5 [15:07] grabin ticks just scared of this price action [15:07] this can turn on a frikin dime [15:08] 0,3 Long ES @ 1185.5 [15:09] good fll [15:09] meant fill [15:09] tks [15:10] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1185.50 --> + 1 [15:16] emini these Shorts are sure a lot of work [15:17] had a excellent signal @ 1187-1186 looks like its stalled [15:19] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1185.50 --> + 1 [15:19] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1185.50 [15:20] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10541 --> 0 [15:21] 0,3 Long YM @ 10544 [15:22] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1186.5 --> + 1 [15:23] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1186.50 --> + 1 [15:30] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10534 --> - 10 [15:30] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1185.50 --> 0 [15:30] frikin fakes [15:30] :) [15:30] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10534 [15:30] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10533 [15:31] nuts [15:34] This is worst price action i can remeber in a long time [15:35] Keep your wallet at home [15:35] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10524 --> + 10 [15:35] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10534 [15:35] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10532 [15:39] nice entry szu...it nailed one of my bread-n-butter trade signals. [15:40] thnx..cost me 1 Stop-out though [15:41] 10522 was pt1 had I taken the trade. [15:46] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10529 [15:49] YM now at pt2 [15:49] 10512.00 [15:50] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10524 [15:51] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10521 [15:52] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10518 [15:55] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 10518 --> + 15 [15:55] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10522 --> + 12 [15:59] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [17:11] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [18:20] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [18:46] . [19:10] * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Mar 31 19:10:20 2005