Session Start: Thu Mar 03 03:32:58 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [03:32] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [03:56] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [03:56] * NihabaAshi: you're not channel operator [04:00] * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Mar 03 04:00:07 2005 Session Start: Thu Mar 03 04:00:32 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [04:00] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [04:00] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [04:34] 0,4 Shorts DAX @ 4392.00 -> large size [04:40] 0,2 Covered 1/3 DAX Short @ 4388.00 --> + 4 [04:44] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven DAX @ 4392.00 [04:45] Be back later...will post late results if stop is hit or a big profit target is hit. [04:46] Going back to bed...had a long night because spouse has a sinus infection and is snoring heavily because of such :( [04:48] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [05:08] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [06:20] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [07:01] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [07:01] Late post after waking up... [07:02] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit DAX @ 4392.00 --> 0 [07:32] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [07:57] morn guys [08:28] gm [08:30] hey guys sory to ask again could u pl post the site link to get the password for this room...always has problem when the password changes ...thks [08:31] http://p207.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm88.showMessage?topicID=1.topic [08:34] thks arrow ...geez i paste the link & get error page not found same problem... [08:35] i log on to the ezboard site then paste the link & get error msg...sigh [08:36] http://p207.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm88 This is page just before. [08:37] pat255...you only get that error message if you click on the link from within mIRC. [08:37] yes [08:37] You NEED to copy the link and then paste it into your browser... [08:38] Than save the link in your browser for future use. [08:38] Let me know if your still getting the ERROR message. [08:40] hmmm niha still get the error ...sorry :( did the paste the link [08:42] Your user name is pat255 at ezboard ??? [08:43] no niha ..it is vin15 & u think that zonealarm may be causing this problem? [08:43] Let me check to see in vin15 is on the ACCESS list. [08:43] vin15 that is how i signed up...thks [08:44] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [08:44] pat255...how did you get the new password to get in here then ??? [08:45] Hopefully NOBODY gave you the password without consulting me... [08:45] Niha i logon to the eminifutures & u gave me the pw on tuesady... [08:46] There's a lot of former members I do not want to return for various reasons...your not one of them... [08:46] Ok...that' was you the other day. [08:46] yes ... [08:46] that was my last resort... [08:46] Just check...vin15 is not on the access list...give me a second to add your name... [08:46] hmmm ok Niha ...thks [08:47] Ok...try it now. [08:48] ah ha that works ...ty niha ...pl don't put me on the black list ...:) [08:50] k tried again ..it works ...thks [08:50] What I did was late last year is that I DELETED a bunch of user names I didn't recognize (some members use different user names in here in comparison to the ezboard)... [08:50] Those that got deleted by accident...if they wanted access...would eventually contact me. [08:51] The ACCESS list was too long in comparison to those that use the room... [08:51] i c...it was by accident that my ezboard login & mirc room login are different ... [08:51] I have on average about 15 users in here whereas I had 175 names on the ACCESS list :( [08:52] Lots of members logged in a few times and never return. [08:52] so i left it the way it was . [08:52] i c.. [08:52] No problem. [08:52] thks again for yourhelp [09:06] markets just want to go higher but seems that its spooked by the slightest [09:14] It now takes 84 workers to produce what 100 workers could produce in 2000. interesting [09:17] morn jper [09:18] gm all [09:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1213.50 -> large size [09:36] That's a small size...not large. [09:42] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:42] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.50 -> small size [09:42] real trade [09:43] Short DAX @ 4396.50 Large size [09:44] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1214.25 --> + 0.25 [09:45] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.25 [09:46] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1215 --> - 0.5 [09:50] GM [09:52] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.75 -> small size [09:52] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.25 [09:53] Might be a runner, emini. [09:53] ER2 and NQ broke down too soon...hopefully it doesn't bounce. [09:54] maybe FFT [09:55] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [09:56] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:00] man the NQ is weak [10:01] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1214.25 --> 0 [10:02] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1214.0 [10:02] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1213.50 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:03] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1213.25 --> + 1.5 [10:03] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1213.00 --> + 1 [10:03] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1213 --> + 1.25 [10:03] nice guys [10:03] Cover 1/2 DAX @ 4391.00 [10:03] Stop at breakeven [10:03] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10846 [10:04] ES is sure jerky, makes it harder for me to read [10:04] btw... greenspan is speaking again today... [10:04] on bloomberg currently [10:05] I'm about to give up on ES...as usual...everything else is going well except for trading ES :( [10:05] ES jumped off 1min support FFT should see if it will provide enough momemtum to carry thru [10:07] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1214.75 --> 0 [10:08] Reverse all... [10:08] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1214.75 --> - 1.25 [10:08] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1214.75 [10:08] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10860 --> - 14 [10:08] 4 Short Squeeze4 [10:08] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1215.50 --> - 2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:09] Cover remainder DAX @ 4395.00 +1.50 and I'm currently Long at 4395.00 [10:09] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1215.75 --> - 1.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:09] 0,3 Long YM @ 10867 [10:09] Won't make the same hesitation mistakes like yesterday. [10:11] shorts to the woodeshed again ? [10:12] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1216 [10:12] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10864 --> - 3 [10:12] frikin chased it [10:13] 0,2 Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1216.25 --> + 1.5 [10:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1216 [10:14] nice niha..that was quick recerse .. [10:14] ER2 is smokin [10:14] Exited DAX @ 4402.00 and holding a few contracts at breakeven. [10:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1215.75 [10:14] Same with ES...remainder at breakeven. [10:15] pat255...this time I didn't miss my bread-n-butter trade signal. [10:15] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10865 [10:15] Huge difference between my primary signals and my secondary signals. [10:16] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1215.25 --> + 0.75 [10:16] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1215.25 --> + 0.5 [10:17] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1215 --> + 1 [10:17] Same with DAX @ 4398.00 [10:21] DAX today got rid of 1/2 the damage yesterday...will stick with Eurex for awhile (sticking with what works). [10:23] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10854 --> + 11 [10:23] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10865 [10:23] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10858 [10:23] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1214.50 --> + 1.5 [10:24] 0,4 Shorts DAX @ 4395.00 -> large size [10:24] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1213 --> + 3 [10:24] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1212.75 --> + 3 [10:24] :) [10:24] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10842 --> + 16 [10:24] Nice shorts everybody :) [10:25] 0,4 Shorts DAX @ 4391.00 -> Add [10:26] 0,3 Long ES @ 1213 [10:27] 0,3 Long ES @ 1212.75 -> small size [10:27] 0,2 Covered 1/3 DAX Short @ 4386.00 --> + 5 [10:28] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven DAX @ 4395 [10:28] Looking for a 4379.00 [10:28] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1212.75 --> 0 [10:28] That price wipes out the remainder of yesterday's losses. [10:29] :} [10:29] nice niha [10:29] 0,6 exit stop lowered DAX @ 4394.00 [10:30] 0,3 Long ES @ 1212.25 -> small size [10:31] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1211.75 --> - 0.5 [10:31] ES still hasn't closed the gap [10:32] FFT...I'm watching that closely [10:32] It's the only reason why I'm still holding my DAX shorts. [10:32] . [10:33] My net connection burped :( [10:34] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1211.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:34] THis one is paper :) [10:35] FFT why some real some paper ? [10:35] HUnch trade [10:35] k [10:35] My main signal thing says "If you ain't short already, don't bother going short now" so I can't short for real. [10:36] then why short on paper if u dont have a signal ???? [10:37] I've got a weak signal, and it's a junch trade. NIce o try them out. Especially when I get killed - keeps me honest [10:37] 0,3 Long ES @ 1211.50 -> small size [10:38] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1211.75 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:39] 0,3 Long ES @ 1211.25 -> Add [10:41] * LesC is now known as les [10:43] be back [10:44] Geesh...I have no support levels here and the Eminis are acting like its the line in the sand :( [10:44] That's interesting. The next ES contract has been about 4 points higher since we started trading March [10:45] Doesn't seem to vary a whole lot [10:47] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10835 --> + 30 [10:47] actually 835 [10:47] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1212 --> - 0.25 [10:48] 0,2 Covered all DAX Short @ 4387.00 --> + 8 [10:48] TS Showing all ses VWAP @ 1213.75 [10:48] :( [10:50] Between today and yesterday...its a roller coaster ride so far... [10:51] Taking a break and be back later...going rest the mind and eat a plate of pancakes. [10:51] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_pancakes [11:07] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [11:14] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1212.75 --> + 1.25 [11:14] late post [11:14] had to run an errand [11:15] missed a good short @ around 1213 [11:16] yeah that 1213 is going to be R now [11:17] looks like it [11:21] Where support? [11:22] 1208 1209? [11:26] 0,3 Long YM @ 10833 [11:29] * NihabaAshi_pancakes is now known as NihabaAshi [11:30] 0,3 Long ES @ 12010.75 [11:30] Correction follows [11:30] 0,3 Long ES @ 1210.75 [11:38] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1211.25 --> + 0.5 [11:41] k guys back to office ...thks all [11:46] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1209.25 [11:47] 0,4 Shorts DAX @ 4374.00 -> large size [11:47] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10817 --> - 16 [11:47] Looking to ADD... [11:48] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1208.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:49] :( [11:49] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1208 --> + 1.25 [11:50] 0,2 Covered all DAX Short @ 4372.00 --> + 2 [11:51] * les is now known as lesAway [11:55] Feels like yesterday but this time its on the way down. [11:55] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1207 --> + 2.25 [11:56] should have held a lot ? [11:56] Exited rest of ES long Swing at +0 [12:02] 0,3 Long ES @ 1207 [12:04] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1207.25 --> + 0.25 [12:05] Long felt wrong [12:19] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [12:36] 0,3 Long YM @ 10785 [12:42] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1208.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [12:59] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1207.25 [13:07] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1209 -> Add [13:08] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1210.25 -> Add [13:08] When you gotta add, you gotta add... [13:09] :) [13:10] trend is still down no confirmation of change [13:11] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1209.75 [13:12] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10819 --> + 34 [13:13] :) [13:13] . [13:16] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1210.75 -> Add [13:20] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1210 --> + 0.5 [13:21] Neutral position. Could go anywhere. [13:25] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1209 --> - 0.5 [13:26] :) [13:26] was looking for 1207.50....may still get there [13:27] Could do, but this is such a strange day. Could be driven back up to HOD if there were any large orders [13:27] 0,2 stop hit ES @ 1208.5 --> + 0.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [13:28] late post [13:28] i'm done for today [13:28] think its still in a downtrend..tough to go higher than 1212..but u never know [13:28] * lesAway is now known as les [13:28] * square64 is now known as Square-out [13:29] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10816 [13:31] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:44] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1209.25 [13:46] emini i see you loading up the boat with Shorts [13:46] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10810 --> + 6 [13:47] no szu i was out at b/e on the previous trade. this is the only lot now [13:50] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1209.25 --> 0 [13:50] Position Trade Short YM at 10816. Hold until close. [13:51] stop over intraday high, ouch [13:51] correction stop over Dec. 2004 high [13:52] over 10878 [13:52] why that ? [13:53] typcially the system places a stop just above/below the intraday high/low, but because todays high is so close to this multimonth resistance, I'll give it a little more. [13:54] thx [13:54] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1210 [13:55] 0,3 Long YM @ 10829.00 -> large size [13:55] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1211 --> - 1 [13:55] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1211 [13:56] :( [13:57] lets wait and watch [13:58] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1209.75 --> - 1.25 [13:58] emini im watching, they turned on on woodchipper [13:59] yeah about time to be on the sidelines [14:03] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10825.00 --> - 4 [14:03] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short YM @ 10825.00 [14:06] 0,3 Long ES @ 1210.50 -> large size [14:08] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10836.00 --> - 11 [14:08] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long YM @ 10836.00 [14:08] Stop reversal [14:09] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1211.75 --> + 1.25 [14:09] Not part of the plan...looking to dump it. [14:09] Maybe not if it tages 10845 [14:10] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1212 --> + 1.5 [14:11] be back stop @b/e [14:17] Yesterday I was in a similar position with a Long... [14:17] it started retracing...I dumped it for a tick or two profit... [14:17] Then it shot straight up...will hold this time until target is reached. [14:19] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1211.50 --> + 1 [14:21] hi guys back [14:21] welcome [14:21] kty trader [14:24] 0,3 Long ES @ 1212.25 [14:24] ER2 doing its superman thing again. [14:26] It's volatility is much stronger than the others... [14:26] They either will catch up or drop like a rock when ER2 drops. [14:27] Es is on its way up :) [14:27] Not without ER2 [14:27] :) [14:27] One more spurt in ER2...ES will make new intraday highs. [14:28] chart says it should most probably even after a minor retracement [14:29] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10843 [14:29] here we go [14:30] YM is nearing my target [14:30] :( [14:30] It tag it and no fill at 55 [14:32] That's the 4th trade like that (no fill) in the past 2 weeks. [14:32] If it pushes up there again...will try to get out with something more. [14:33] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10852 --> - 9 [14:34] 0,2 Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1213 --> + 0.75 [14:35] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10850 [14:36] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1212.25 --> 0 [14:36] will wait for a better entry [14:39] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10842 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:39] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10842 --> + 8 [14:40] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10850 [14:40] nice szu [14:40] thx [14:42] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10839.00 --> + 3 [14:43] Will try for a Long re-entry at a better price and keep the same target if it occurs via a WRB. [14:43] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [14:46] Niha where u see re-entry Price on YM? [14:47] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10842 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [14:47] :( [14:49] * Square-out is now known as square64 [14:59] no trades for me today. cya tomorrow. [15:04] szubaark...not at a specific price... [15:04] 0,3 Long ES @ 1211.50 [15:04] Just waiting for an entry signal and hoping that signal is below 10836 [15:10] Anybody still awake :) [15:11] not easy the mkt is asleep too...lol [15:11] i got my Stop and just let it do its thing [15:11] you got a good entry on that short szu [15:11] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1212.50 --> + 1 [15:11] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10848 --> + 2 [15:12] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1212.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:12] yawn [15:13] need a pillow/sheet/fleece/coffee/tea/ anyone [15:14] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10842.00 -> large size [15:15] out of my misery finally [15:15] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1211.75 [15:15] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1211.50 --> 0 [15:15] see ya all in the morn [15:16] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1211.5 --> + 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:17] YM waiting on ES to make its move [15:17] Agree [15:17] Bidders awfully strong at the bottom of the ES range :( Somebody tell em to go away :) [15:18] Looks like another breakeven trade for me if it doesn't break. [15:19] moving in the right direction.. [15:19] ES needs to break below that support [15:20] yup [15:20] 1211 [15:20] should make its move Shortly [15:21] Hang on, I think we got a wave down comin here [15:21] Dang [15:21] I hope so...I'm rarely in the red in YM by end of the first week of trading. [15:22] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10841.00 --> + 1 [15:23] :( [15:27] Ya know, it seems like S&R has been working better on ES over the last couple of weeks (versus the earlier months) [15:28] Yep...its biting me in the butt on that when in past months I was able to exploit those darn numbers. [15:29] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1212.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:30] Uh oh [15:30] its weird how the market ranges in the last hour lately [15:31] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10842.00 -> large size [15:31] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1212.25 --> - 0.5 [15:31] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1212.25 [15:32] Crap...its after 3:30pm est [15:33] * jperl is having a hard time making up his mind [15:33] No more trades today for me after I close this one...push it far too hard today. [15:33] Paid off earlier in DAX :) [15:34] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1212 --> + 0.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [15:34] Now we can have a nice 12 point run ;) [15:34] I've been missing a lot of big moves lately due to stopping trading too early... [15:35] Wanted to be active today as long as possible and avoid missing too many bread-n-butter signals. [15:36] :( [15:36] another breakeven trade [15:37] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10841.00 --> + 1 [15:38] Niha its just Chop. [15:38] Im not touching it. This is where i get Killed. [15:39] Well...it sucks because I took 3 time outs today... [15:39] All 3 of my 10min away from the computer...the market put in a key reversal :( [15:40] There's tomorrow :) [15:40] Yes.. tomorrow another day [15:40] Not getting that fill at 10855 hurt big time. [15:41] k guys call it a day...thks all... [15:42] Cya Pat [15:42] later FFT...& Thks for your help niha... [15:44] Guys on the radio are debating flat tax and sales tax and taking about abolition of the IRS. Sure be nice, but they are a buncha dreamers. [15:45] I'd be happy to file a 3X5 card [15:45] IRS are crooks. [15:45] Not ever gonna happen. Better to search for the holy grail of trading than to dream about no IRS :( [15:46] In 1998 I went to them to ask for help on my tax...the IRS agent signed his name and ID code as the guy who wrote in the numbers eventhough I signed it. [15:46] I sent it in...no problem until 2003... [15:47] I get this little notice of owing tax along with interest based on some number error in my 1998 tax... [15:47] I debated with them endlessly... [15:48] Still had to cough up $1200 in penalities for an error I didn't make :( [15:48] They in turn audited me the next year...didn't find anything wrong though :) [15:48] The average IRS employee is not the sharpest tool in the shed, if ya know what I mean. I've met a few. [15:48] Oh yeah...I learned my lesson. [15:48] 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 1212 --> - 0.25 [15:50] Now ES wants to break down...will YM follow ? [15:51] Take care all...time for me to do my market wrap up. [15:51] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [15:52] Cya Nihaba [15:55] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. 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