Session Start: Mon Feb 07 09:28:38 2005 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:28] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:28] [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab [09:29] morn folks [09:29] gm [09:32] GM [09:32] No pile o Superbowl Buyers this AM? [09:32] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10698 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [09:35] 0,3 Long ER2 @ 638.6 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:35] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10697 --> + 1 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [09:36] 0,2 Exited all ER2 Long @ 638.6 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:42] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 638.9 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:45] what a snoozefest [09:46] With extra snoozing noodles :( [09:47] 0,2 Covered all ER2 Short @ 638.5 --> + 0.4 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:47] Friday's big meal needs to be digested. [09:48] SB hangovers ;) [09:48] 0,3 Long YM @ 10704  [09:49] 0,3 Long ES @ 1202.75 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:50] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [09:50] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1203  [09:51] meant to say order placed, but I got a fill :) [09:53] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10705 --> + 1  [09:54] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1203.25 --> + 0.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:55] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1203.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [09:55] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1203.50  [10:00] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1204.0 --> - 0.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [10:02] 0,3 Long YM @ 10713 -> Swing / Position Trade  [10:04] one filter that I have thought about putting in to the position trades is not to trade after a trend day like Friday. [10:04] Many times after a trend day there will be a tight range day and the position trade looks for volatility. [10:06] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1204.50 --> - 1  [10:07] However, defining a trend day can be discretionary and 'systems' work themselves out over time based on stats so, I've been reluctant to add this filter. [10:08] my PT for the long I no longer have was YM 10726 - 10734 [10:12] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10710  [10:19] 0,3 Long ER2 @ 639.70 -> small size  [10:20] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 03.75 -> small size  [10:21] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 03.75 --> 0  [10:22] 0,3 Long NQ @ 1537  [10:23] 0,2 Exited all ER2 Long @ 639.70 --> 0  [10:23] 0,2 Exited all NQ Long @ 1537.5 --> + 0.5  [10:24] 0,3 Long YM @ 10715  [10:26] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10719 --> - 9  [10:27] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10717 --> + 2  [10:28] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1204 -> small size  [10:29] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10714  [10:29] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10715  [10:30] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10713  [10:32] short dax 4374 [10:33] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10710 --> + 5  [10:34] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1203 --> + 1  [10:35] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1202.5 --> + 0.5  [10:35] covered 4368 +6 [10:36] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10704 --> + 9  [10:37] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1202.25 --> + 1.75  [10:37] Jimmy...please use the trade posting script. [10:37] Go ahead and do a test trade post via it. [10:37] Dang, I wanted 02 on that, but I chickened out when everybody keep buying ES on the way down. [10:39] Niha, do you know if there is a way to use the script to tell it to specifically exit a Swing/Position trade ? [10:39] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 95.25 --> + 1108.75  [10:39] oops that was 1203 [10:40] Flash...the normal exit command but it won't say Exit Swing. [10:41] that's what I thought. At the end of the day when I exit my Pos. Trades. the script seems to just remember my last trade (other than the Position) [10:41] Ok...now your asking something different... [10:42] The script does not remember multiple different trades... [10:42] it only remembers the last trade type. [10:42] Example... [10:42] If I post a swing trade... [10:42] Then later post a day trade entry then post an exit of the swing trade... [10:43] It's going to do its calculations based on the day trade entry because it was the last type of trade that you posted. [10:43] I see that scalp has a "scalp exit" and of course regular trades have their own "exit" but Pos/Swing only has Long or Short. [10:43] Not sure but maybe you missed my point... [10:44] Will show you instead. [10:44] no i see what you're saying [10:44] 0,3 Long ER2 @ 980.00 -> Swing / Position Trade  [10:44] 0,2 Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 970.00 --> - 10  [10:44] 0,2 Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 960.00 --> - 20  [10:45] Thus, it just shows it as an Swing entry but the exits don't say Swing Exit. [10:45] Just saids plain old Exit [10:47] i do not see a way to script my position trades exits then at the end of the day if I have had other trades in between. [10:47] doesn't matter to me, but i know you like things to be scripted [10:47] Sure...just post your Swing Trades via text only or use a color highlight if you want. [10:47] OK [10:48] It's what I do when I do multiple different trades. [10:48] Sometimes I'm in the DAX and one of the Eminis at the same time... [10:48] I'll post one via the script and the other via text only. [10:49] gotcha [10:50] I recently did some statistical work and found out I make about 7% more profits via trading two different trading instruments moving in the same direction instead of increasing my contracts in one trading instrument. [10:51] However, its a lot more mental work :( [10:55] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10720 --> - 6  [10:55] 0,3 Long YM @ 10720  [10:56] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10720  [11:01] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 1723 --> + 8997  [11:01] 10723 net -3 [11:02] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [11:03] 0,4 Shorts DAX @ 4377.00 -> large size  [11:04] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10720  [11:05] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10715 --> - 5  [11:05] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10715  [11:06] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10717 --> + 3  [11:06] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1203.75 -> large size  [11:07] hm [11:07] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10616  [11:09] oops [11:09] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10616 --> 0  [11:09] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10716  [11:11] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven DAX @ 4377.00  [11:12] :( [11:12] Picture perfect entry gone to waste :( [11:12] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit DAX @ 4377.00 --> 0  [11:13] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10725 --> - 10  [11:13] 0,3 Long YM @ 10725  [11:19] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10723  [11:20] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10722 --> + 1  [11:21] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 640.10 -> large size  [11:21] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10724  [11:23] looks kinda choppy there niha [11:23] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10724 --> 0  [11:25] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 640.10  [11:26] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10722 --> - 3  [11:26] market consolidating from Friday [11:27] 0,3 Long ES @ 1250  [11:27] test [11:30] c u all later,,thks [11:33] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1203.75 --> 0  [11:38] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 639.20 --> + 0.9  [11:41] 0,6 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 640.00  [11:41] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10713 --> + 3  [11:43] Be back later if when either 640.00 or 638.50 is hit and my audio alerts are going off to alert me to such. [11:43] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [11:54] 0,3 Long YM @ 10722  [11:58] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10718 --> - 4  [11:58] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10718  [12:00] 0,3 Long ES @ 1202 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:02] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1202 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:05] 0,3 Long ES @ 1202  [12:07] :) [12:07] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [12:08] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 638.40 --> + 1.7  [12:10] good one [12:13] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1202.5 --> + 0.5  [12:14] 0,3 Long JPY @ 0.9562  [12:14] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [12:17] 0,3 Long YM @ 10709 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [12:18] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10710 --> + 8  [12:18] 0,3 Long ES @ 1202  [12:18] Paper [12:18] Last one was real :) [12:20] 0,3 Long YM @ 10708  [12:21] 0,3 Long ES @ 1201.50 -> small size  [12:22] 1,3Green Alert1,0 Lots of 3green1 in #FuturesTrades :( [12:22] Yup! [12:23] 0,2 Covered ER2 Short @ 637.70 --> + 2.4  [12:23] We should push this UP [12:23] Holding only 1 contract. [12:23] Here comes the big money boys [12:23] I thought, lol [12:24] FFT, WE ARE the big money [12:24] * FFT is Big money (on paper) :) [12:26] 0,2 Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 637.00 --> + 3.1  [12:26] WTG Nihaba. [12:27] After all the unusual number of breakeven trades I've had this month...I was due for a decent trade like that. [12:29] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1201.75 --> - 0.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:29] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10711 --> + 2 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [12:30] geez, I can't buy a descent trade today [12:31] 0,3 Long ES @ 1202.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:39] 0,3 Long YM @ 10710  [12:45] 0,2 Exited all JPY Long @ 0.9563 --> + 0.0001  [12:46] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1202.50 --> + 1  [12:47] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10715 --> + 5  [12:49] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1202.5 --> - 9507.5 4,0 «« paper »»  [12:50] <<<>>> Exited all ES long @ 1202.50 --> +.25 [12:51] * Flashtrade is now known as Flash_away [12:53] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10711 --> + 3  [12:58] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away [12:59] 0,2 Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1203 --> + 1.5  [13:00] good patience emini [13:00] i bailed too early [13:00] was a low risk entry wanted to make the most of it [13:01] why u say low risk? [13:03] actually meant low - loss to profit ratio [13:03] stop was only 3 ticks at 1200.75 when i went long [13:04] @1250 [13:04] sorry @1201.50 [13:06] expecting test of high [13:06] yes, but later in the day. It looks dry now [13:07] u r right.i meant when i made the entry [13:07] 3 tick stop vs potential 4pts [13:12] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10716 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:17] 0,2 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10707 --> + 9 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:18] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1201.50 --> 0  [13:18] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 10721 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:21] 0,6 exit stop lowered YM @ 10712 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:22] 0,3 Long ES @ 1201.25  [13:23] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1201.75 --> + 0.5  [13:24] Been out all day. Had to take a cheap scalp. [13:26] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [13:32] 0,2 Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10706 --> + 10 4,0 «« paper »»  [13:35] 0,3 Long YM @ 10706 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [13:53] . [13:53] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10698  [13:58] 0,3 Long ES @ 1200.00  [14:07] 0,3 Long YM @ 10701  [14:08] * Flash_away is now known as Flashtrade [14:13] 0,2 Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1201.00 --> + 1  [14:14] 0,2 Exited YM Long @ 10708 --> + 2 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [14:14] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10709 --> + 8  [14:15] about all i gained on that trade was some gray hair [14:15] lol [14:30] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10714 --> - 16  [14:30] good one [14:31] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1202.00 --> + 2  [14:31] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1202.25  [14:32] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10712  [14:34] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1202.25  [14:37] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1201.25 --> + 1  [14:38] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1201.25 --> + 1  [14:38] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [14:56] STOP LOSS on Long YM Position Trade is set at 10687. Entry was 10713. It is a hold to the close or stop out. [14:56] be back later [14:57] * Flashtrade is now known as Flash_away [15:02] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [15:14] 0,4 Shorts ER2 @ 637 4,0 «« paper »»  [15:27] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10707 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [15:28] 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 1202.25 --> 0  [15:28] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1202.25  [15:28] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10714 --> - 2  [15:28] 0,3 Long YM @ 10715  [15:28] tough to trade this [15:28] otherway around exit short and enter long [15:29] * Flash_away is now known as Flashtrade [15:29] this is choppy [15:29] we shouldn't be in the mrkt szu........ [15:30] words of wisdom emini [15:30] i know.. easier said then done. [15:30] it did turn out to be a very typical kind of day after a strong trend day [15:30] Just the brokers laughen so far :( [15:30] :) [15:31] ain't like a monday [15:37] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1202.25 --> 0  [15:38] actually covered all LONG [15:39] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 10708 --> - 7  [15:39] ouch [15:41] . [15:46] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10711  [15:47] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [15:48] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 10712 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [15:49] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10708 --> + 4 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [15:50] I don't know why I took that trade. It was like seeing a Milky Way bar at a check out counter. [15:51] lol... [15:51] lol [15:53] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 10712 --> - 1  [15:53] time to pick it in for the day. [15:56] 0,2 Covered YM Short @ 10705 --> + 2 4,0 «« Scalp »»  [15:59] 0,2 Covered all ER2 Short @ 637 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [16:00] Closed Position Trade - 5 . Month To Date is +55 and year to date is +225 [16:58] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [17:09] test [17:09] c- [17:12] c- [17:12] bummer [17:12] why not a b+ [17:13] how are you FFT? [17:13] Lower case t :) [17:13] Doing pretty good, trying to wrap up for the day [17:14] Trading went well for you today? [17:15] Not bad, considering the range. [17:15] How bout you? [17:16] no trades for a while for me [17:16] possible change in career for me [17:16] i'm on break as we speak [17:16] Change is good :) [17:17] :) [17:17] agree [17:19] take it easy [17:19] bye [17:27] Cya Awash [18:07] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [19:19] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [20:31] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [21:43] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [22:56] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [23:19] * Disconnected Session Close: Mon Feb 07 23:19:27 2005