Session Start: Wed Nov 26 09:02:09 2003 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:02] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:02] * Topic is '1,4 #FuturesTrades -> 8,2 Active realtime trade posting room for ES, NQ, SPY, QQQ, YM, DIA and Eurex http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm' [09:02] * Set by X on Mon Nov 24 15:58:52 [09:02] [NihabaAshi] Password changes, trade post script changes and trader profiles are posted ONLY at free discussion board at http://www.thestrategylab.com/Forums.htm [09:02] hose: what's your timeframe to hit 1063? [09:02] * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi [09:05] Wow...what a loaded day full of key economic reports :) [09:05] jobless claims number was somewhat encouraging [09:07] yep lots of economic news today [09:12] Days like today is not a day to be undecipline. [09:12] good morning [09:13] gm jazz [09:13] Hi Jazz and good morning all. [09:13] jazz comes in to clean up [09:13] gm [09:13] GM everyone [09:14] morning [09:15] already learned my discipline for the morning with a stinko trade :) [09:16] gm niha, papa.., rocciya [09:16] gm jazz:) [09:16] Jazz |o) [09:22] 8,4 >>>>> 8,2 TONS of news @ 9:45am, 10:00am and 12:00 noon EST 8,4 <<<<< 1,0 [09:23] gm [09:24] good morning / afternoon / evening everyone :) [09:24] gm kalle [09:24] hi kalle [09:25] BTW ... 1/2 day today and friday [09:26] today also? [09:26] i thought only friday? [09:28] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1057.75 [09:28] Friday only, rocc [09:28] ok..thats what i thought...thx [09:32] tick ramp [09:34] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1057.50 -> medium size [09:34] for 10 ES [09:35] 15,00,1514,1515,145,1414,50,5 shorts YM @ 9788 14,55,1415,1414,150,1515,0 [09:35] ah... sorry bout that [09:35] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 9789 [09:35] was commodity futures that close at noon today [09:35] wow...kalle! [09:35] :(( [09:35] :) [09:35] yes [09:35] * rocciya_away is now known as rocciya [09:36] rocciya ;) [09:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1057 -> Add [09:36] for 10 ES [09:36] UofM news @ ~ 9:50 [09:36] 0,6 buy limit to enter long QQQ @ 35.42 [09:37] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short YM at 9779 --> + 10 [09:37] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1056.50 --> + 1.25 [09:37] Nice trades. [09:38] 0,3 Long ES @ 1056.75 -> small size [09:38] 3 contracts only [09:38] News just around the corner, Nihaba. 9:50 and 10:00 [09:38] I'm early on my trade signal...hopefully it doesn't punish me for it :) [09:38] 15,00,1514,1515,142,1414,28,2 covers YM @ 9783 +4 14,22,1415,1414,150,1515,00,0- [09:39] +5 [09:39] news might take us down a notch or 2 [09:39] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1056.75 [09:39] ES Floor pivots: [09:39] NQ, I mean: [09:39] Pv:1418.67, S1:1407.83, S2:1401.17, S3:1383.67 R1:1425.33, R2:1436.17, R3:1453.67 [09:39] ES: [09:40] Pv:1052.83, S1:1047.92, S2:1042.58, S3:1032.33 R1:1058.17, R2:1063.08, R3:1073.33 [09:40] PUNKS [09:40] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1056.75 [09:40] * szubaark_OUT is now known as szubaark [09:40] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1056.75 --> 0 [09:40] gm all [09:41] Howdy Zel [09:41] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short ES at 1056 --> + 2 [09:41] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1056.25 --> + 0.75 [09:42] should be 10 ES for +1.25 [09:42] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1058.00 [09:42] 1057.75 Hard Stop [09:42] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short YM at 9774 --> + 15 [09:43] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 9788 [09:43] 0,6 sell limit to exit QQQ long @ 35.47 [09:44] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1056.50 -> Add [09:44] for 10 ES [09:44] Hello Hello HJello [09:45] GM [09:45] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [09:46] TRIN IS NOT cooperating with the rest of us [09:46] 0,3 Long ES @ 1056.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:46] 1car [09:47] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1055.75 -> medium size [09:47] 15 contracts [09:47] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1055.50 --> + 1 [09:47] for 10 ES [09:48] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1055.75 --> - 1 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:48] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1055.75 --> + 2 [09:48] what is the report coming out at 11a..anyone? [09:48] I don't recall seeing that one. [09:48] homes sales [09:48] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1056.00 -> Add [09:48] thanks wanna [09:49] for 10 ES [09:49] yep [09:49] New homes sales @ 10 Eastern [09:49] you shorty's could be in for a HAPPY THANKSGIVING [09:49] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1055.25 --> + 0.5 [09:50] goble goble [09:50] 100ema 15m ym support [09:50] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short ES at 1055.00 --> + 3 [09:50] good hits all! [09:50] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1054.75 --> + 2 [09:50] 0,2 Covered remainder Short YM at 3759 --> + 6030 [09:50] 0,2 Covered remainder Short YM at 9759 --> + 30 [09:50] wtg guy [09:50] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1055.75 [09:51] nice trades [09:51] nice k [09:51] thx [09:51] consensus is 1133k carmine [09:51] amt and niha are holding out for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [09:51] GoodMorning all [09:51] thnxwbt [09:51] I am...thats for sure [09:52] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1426.50 [09:52] we hit 1050 and you guys are buying the cranberries [09:52] Consumer Sentiment numbers are good as expected. [09:52] no doubt [09:52] carmine UVA [09:53] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1055.50 [09:53] 0,3 Buys YM @ 9757 -> small size [09:53] we could really see 1052 now [09:53] My profit targets are 1055.27, 1052.63 and 1048.56 [09:54] should have shorted qqq at 35.48.. now at 35.37 [09:54] PUNKS [09:55] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 1055.25 --> + 2.75 [09:55] 3,15[B ES3Z to OPEN] 1@ 1055.5 [09:55] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1055.50 --> + 0.25 [09:55] good one! [09:55] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055.50 [09:55] 0,2 Exited 1/3 Long YM at 9765 --> + 8 [09:55] 0,6 exit stop set YM @ 9752 [09:56] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1055.00 -> small size [09:56] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1054.50 --> - 1 [09:56] 0,2 Exited remainder Long YM at 9759 --> + 2 [09:57] 0,6 cancelled all open limit orders [09:57] * HoseAway is now known as Hose [09:57] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1055 [09:58] NEWS out at 10am est :) [09:59] Some people hide from a Tornado...others stand outside videotaping it :) [09:59] 4,15[S ES3Z to EXIT] 1@ 1055 4-0.5 [09:59] * WannaBeATrader hides [09:59] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055 -> small size [09:59] 4,15[S ES3Z to OPEN] 1@ 1054.75 [09:59] We could easily go all the way back to 57 and change [10:00] 3,15[B ES3Z to EXIT] 1@ 1056.5 4-1.75 [10:00] Channel #4 in Minneapolis films it from 1/4 mile in a helicopter [10:00] 4,15[S ES3Z to OPEN] 1@ 1055.25 [10:00] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1056 --> - 1 [10:00] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055.25 [10:00] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055.75 -> small size [10:00] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1052.5 [10:00] 3 contracts only [10:00] 0,6 sell limit to exit ES long @ 1057.25 [10:00] 0,3 covered all Short: 1056.00 --> - 1 [10:01] 0,3 Long ES @ 1056.50 [10:01] 0,3 Long YM @ 9763 [10:01] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1055.75 [10:01] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1056.50 -> Add [10:01] for 10 ES [10:01] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1056.50 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:02] PUNKS [10:02] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1055.50 --> - 1 [10:02] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1055.75 --> 0 [10:02] damn getting stopped out [10:02] :|- [10:02] any numbers on housing? [10:02] *U.S. OCT NEW HOME SALES DOWN 3.5% TO 1.105 MLN UNITS [10:03] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1055.50 -> small size [10:03] 5 contracts only [10:03] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 9761 --> - 2 [10:03] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1055 --> + 1.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:04] bearish engulfing on 5 min [10:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1054.00 -> small size [10:04] nice papa [10:04] gap fill [10:04] tnx [10:04] 0,2 Covered ES Short @ 1054.25 --> + 1.25 [10:04] 0,2 Exited ES Long @ 1054 --> - 1 [10:04] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1054 [10:04] Still holding 3 contracts [10:04] 0,3 Long QQQ @ 35.28 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:04] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1054.25 --> + 2.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:05] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1054.25 --> + 2.25 [10:05] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1055.25 [10:05] for 10 ES [10:05] nice amt [10:06] 0,2 Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1054.50 --> + 3 [10:06] interesting 5 min candles..last two bars [10:06] what do you make of them niha [10:06] sweet amt [10:06] ? [10:06] PUNKS [10:06] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055.25 [10:06] for 10 ES...should have been +1.50 pts [10:07] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1055.25 --> + 0.25 [10:07] * traderant slaps amt4swa around a bit with a large trout [10:07] 15,00,1514,1515,142,1414,28,2 buys YM @ 9760 14,22,1415,1414,150,1515,0 [10:07] take that to t-day dinner amt [10:07] almost filled gap up [10:07] OK...scales and all! [10:08] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 10454.25 --> + 9399 [10:08] WOW! [10:08] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1054.25 --> - 1 [10:08] Chop city [10:09] 0,2 Covered Short ES @ 1054.75 --> + 3 [10:09] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1054.75 [10:09] 0,3 Long YM @ 9762 [10:09] 0,3 covered all Short: 1055.25 --> - 1.25 [10:09] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055.50 [10:10] Im reversing on every bar..too choppy probobly bad thing to do [10:10] Yer broker likes it :) [10:10] 0,3 Long QQQ @ 35.31 -> Add 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:11] OK, how about a wave up to my exit order? [10:11] 0,3 Long ES @ 1055 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:12] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1055 [10:12] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1054.50 --> - 1 [10:12] Chop [10:14] triangles on ym/es [10:14] 0,2 Covered Short ES @ 1055.25 --> - 0.25 [10:14] 0,3 Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1055.25 [10:15] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1054.50 [10:16] 0,2 Exited Long ES @ 1055 --> - 0.25 [10:16] 0,4 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1055 [10:16] 3,15[B ES3Z to REDUCE position ] 1@ 1054.5 3+0.75 [10:17] 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 1054.25 --> - 0.5 [10:17] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1054.00 -> small size [10:17] shake out [10:18] yup..they got they wood chipper on full force [10:19] michigan concensus not that great University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Survey: 93.7 vs. consensus 93.8 [10:19] Close `nuff fer government work. [10:19] October New Home Sales: 1.105 vs. 1.12 million consensus [10:20] 0,3 Buys YM @ 9755 [10:20] I wonder if all this volatility or erratic price action is creating a lot of OVERTRADING ? [10:21] wouldnt surprise me [10:21] 0,4 exited all Long: 1055.00 --> + 1 [10:21] Not for me. Half a trade so far :) [10:21] Brokers must be cleaning up these past few weeks...nice Xmas bonus in the mail for them from their bosses :( [10:25] Brokers...sheesh [10:25] they can really piss me off [10:25] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1054 --> + 3.5 [10:25] some of them anyway [10:25] brokers make Free Money [10:25] for 10 ES...should be +3.0 pts [10:27] 3,15[B ES3Z to EXIT] 1@ 1054.25 3+1 [10:27] off topic: A little humor for the morning... http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm37.showMessage?topicID=7.topic [10:27] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1054.50 -> medium size [10:27] for 10 ES [10:28] 1053.50 break ahead IMO [10:29] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1054.25 --> - 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:30] watch it run now [10:30] UP! [10:30] Thost that are Short...profit target @ 1052.63 [10:30] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1054 [10:30] 0,2 Exited Long YM at 9752 --> - 3 [10:30] looking for 1052.50 break [10:31] once the Nasdaq goes towards negative [10:31] :& [10:31] 0,3 Buys YM @ 9749 [10:32] * WannaBeATrader natious from all the volatility [10:32] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1054.25 --> + 0.25 [10:32] actually the volatility is light in here [10:32] what happen to all the volume... is it lunch already? [10:32] holiday volume [10:33] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1053.50 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:33] 1053.50 break [10:33] maybe in your account amt [10:33] ;-) [10:34] prop up buyers here [10:34] 3,15[B ES3Z to OPEN] 1@ 1054.5 [10:35] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1054.50 --> 0 [10:35] for 10 ES [10:35] 0,3 Long ES @ 1054.50 [10:35] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1055 --> 0 [10:35] 0,3 Long ES @ 1054.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:35] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long YM at 9757 --> + 8 [10:37] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1054.75 -> medium size [10:37] for 10 ES [10:37] my amt4swa indicator is going against my long [10:38] ;) [10:38] lol [10:38] AMT your a fraking indicator! [10:40] ;) [10:41] 0,2 Exited 1/4 Long YM at 9760 --> + 11 [10:42] the "SSI" SHORT Sentiment Indicator [10:42] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1055.25 -> Add [10:42] for 10 ES [10:42] 0,2 Exited remainder Long YM at 9760 --> + 11 [10:43] good one! [10:43] thx [10:43] bbl [10:43] * Kalle is now known as Kalle_|_away [10:43] 4,15[S ES3Z to EXIT] 1@ 1054.75 3+0.25 [10:45] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1053.50 --> - 1 [10:45] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1053.25 --> - 1.5 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:45] 1052.50 test as I said... [10:46] 15,00,1514,1515,145,1414,50,5 sells YM @ 9746 -14 14,55,1415,1414,150,1515,0 [10:46] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1052.75 --> + 1.25 [10:46] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1053 --> + 2.25 [10:46] for 10 ES [10:46] 0,3 Long ES @ 1053 [10:47] 1052.50 fails [10:47] comp red [10:47] 0,2 Exited all YM Long @ 9741 --> - 21 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:47] 0,3 Long ES @ 1052.50 [10:48] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1052.75 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:48] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1053.00 [10:48] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1052.50 --> + 2.25 [10:48] for 10 ES [10:48] late entry [10:49] 0,6 buy limit to enter long ES @ 1051.50 [10:49] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1052.5 --> - 2.75 [10:49] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1052.50 -> medium size [10:50] back in for 10 ES...might get more drop here [10:50] today is TOUGH [10:50] That's a wrap for me. [10:50] Happy Thanksgiving all. [10:50] SZU-Short from the open [10:50] * FFT is now known as FFT_Away [10:51] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1052.50 --> 0 [10:51] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1051.50 --> - 1 [10:52] 0,2 Covered all NQ Short @ 1408.50 --> + 18 [10:53] 0,3 Long ES @ 1051.50 [10:53] very nice okra [10:53] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1046.50 [10:53] 0,6 sell limit to exit ES long @ 1054.50 [10:55] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1050.75 --> + 1.75 [10:55] for 10 ES [10:55] 0,3 Long ES @ 1051 [10:55] LOL WBAT [10:55] * traderant slaps WannaBeATrader around a bit with a large trout [10:56] * Kalle_|_away is now known as Kalle [10:57] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1404 [10:57] JAAAAZZ, take profits [10:57] that is it for me today...If we get more drop I will cover some of my Position Trade today [10:57] ups - I went long.. [10:57] no jazz ride it [10:57] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1050 --> - 1 [10:57] 1,4 #FuturesTrades Info -> 8,2 This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. [10:57] 0,2 Covered all NQ Short @ 1404 --> 0 [10:58] 0,3 Long NQ @ 1404 [10:58] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1050 --> + 4 [10:58] GRAT [10:58] +E [10:58] nice jazz [10:58] ;) [10:59] 0,2 Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1050.25 --> + 3.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:59] thx, nice traderant [10:59] very nice [10:59] 9 trades today for +15.25 pts per contract for 10 ES [11:00] Nice amt.. [11:00] very nice amt [11:00] Im done today.. disappointing day and ive reached my trade Limit for day [11:00] :) [11:01] 8 loses/ 2 Wins -5.75 ES [11:01] thanx all! I have to get ready soon for travel [11:01] Chop kills [11:01] amt: where you going? [11:02] To Victoria, TX to see my daughter at my EX's house for Thanksgiving [11:02] about a 2 hour drive from Austin [11:03] nice, I've been there once [11:03] REALLY? [11:03] my sister live in houston [11:03] really ? at his EX´s house ? [11:03] ;)) [11:04] small world [11:04] Kalle...now that was a good one! [11:04] lol [11:04] Jazz...OK, got it! [11:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1051.00 -> small size [11:06] 15,00,1514,1515,142,1414,28,2 buys YM @ 9727 14,22,1415,1414,150,1515,0 [11:07] i'm getting creamed in QQQ [11:07] 0,3 Long ES @ 1050.25 [11:08] 0,3 Long QQQ @ 34.94 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:09] * Kalle is now known as Kalle_|_away [11:10] FFT has all my position trade entry prices...is he gone today? [11:12] 15,00,1514,1515,145,1414,50,5 sells YM @ 9726 -1 14,55,1415,1414,150,1515,0 [11:12] he left maybe 20-25 mins ago [11:12] OK...thanx [11:16] not feeling this market today [11:18] This was weak from the start today...we had NO push out of the open [11:18] and this was a big hint IMO for what was ahead [11:18] very true [11:18] cleaning all the bears out for the holiday run up [11:19] SHORTS out of a weak open work very well for me very often...just be ready for big buy reversals [11:19] that's a lesson i can see just from the QQQ's [11:19] shorts seem to work for you well in any kind of weather amt...lol [11:19] was at 35.30, now at 34.95 [11:20] But an end of the trade week with a weak open was screaming SHORT to me [11:20] carminet...I am sitting in a big SHORT PT...that is why [11:21] I will be splitting my $$$ up very soon into two accts so I can trade in both directions at the same time if needed [11:22] one acct for PT, one acct for IDay [11:22] interesting [11:22] i hate the way these 5 min candles look [11:23] I have become very interested in the PT...big hits if your timing works out [11:24] PT = Position Trade...sorry if I confused anyone [11:26] makes sense... [11:26] how long would you consider a PT to last? [11:27] 0,3 covered all Short: 1050.00 --> + 1 [11:29] could this be the 19% of the time? http://www.vtoreport.com/nasdaq/updown-holidays.htm [11:30] could be [11:31] 0,3 Long ES @ 1049.75 [11:32] PapaJon...sorry I was on the phone [11:32] 3 to 10 trade days [11:32] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1048.75 --> - 1 [11:32] 0,3 Long DIA @ 97.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:33] Wow. [11:33] depending on what I am going for as a target [11:33] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1047.75 --> + 6.25 [11:33]