Session Start: Mon Sep 22 08:17:00 2003 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [08:17] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [08:17] [NihabaAshi] Password changes, trade post script changes and trader profiles are posted ONLY at free discussion board at http://www.thestrategylab.com/Forums.htm [08:17] !rdeftopic [08:17] * X changes topic to 'Active realtime trade posting ES, NQ, SPY, QQQ, YM, DIA (private and free)...for password access...contact NihabaAshi at intradaystrategies@yahoo.com' [08:32] * tigga is now known as tigga_sun [08:37] Good morning. [08:41] Good morning Whamo and all. [08:44] I'm up early this morning because I thought there was some key 0830am est economic reports... [08:44] there wasn't. [08:48] * Looking up darkbet user info... [08:49] Good morning darkbet...thanks for joining. [08:49] niha, what do you attribute the selloff to? [08:50] Which sell-off??? [08:50] dow fututures -66 naz - 18.50 [08:51] Ok...I thought you were talking about 0830am...sorry... [08:53] I don't know. I don't think it's World News related. [08:53] k, just wondering [08:54] Outside DownGaps always present an interesting trading morning. [08:55] good morning all [08:55] gm piker [08:56] Good Morning. Anybody buying this weakness yet? [08:57] Not yet. [08:59] how about any news that would cause this gap down? anyone know why? [08:59] I can't see the reason other than the Jap market not doing all that good [08:59] Lindq, I'm showing a possible bounce around 1020 / 1021. [09:00] amt's positions are looking good right about now. [09:00] morning [09:00] I would love to CLOSE the day at those levels. [09:03] gm nihaba.... [09:04] Hi darkbet. [09:05] Reminder to All: This is Open House Week (last 7 trading days of the month) here in the #FuturesTrades realtime trade posting room. [09:06] Therefore...password not needed and invite any online trading pal that you think may like the trading room. [09:06] Nihaba, I'm waiting for our coffee and donuts for open house:) [09:06] I showered and shaved for guests. (But Whamo is still in his Jammies.) [09:06] This room is ALWAYS free and always have been... [09:07] although a few former members have moved on to their own rooms (fee-based). [09:07] Lindq, don't owe jammies. It's either shorts or nothing:) [09:08] good morning / afternoon / evening everyone :) [09:08] * Looking up dan_g user info... [09:08] Hello Kalle [09:08] TMI Whamo [09:08] Hi dan_g [09:11] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [09:13] So Whamo, you're trading naked? [09:13] No, shorts today:_ [09:13] :) [09:14] gm everyone [09:14] hello sempai [09:16] G'morning everybody [09:16] * traderant slaps Lindq around a bit with a large trout [09:17] opps meant for FFT [09:17] Yea, thanks. Gotta shower again/ [09:18] * traderant thinks theres gotta be a better way to wake someone up [09:18] Place yer bets. This gap going to keep filling, or not? [09:19] Dow up 20 in the last hour. [09:19] Hopefully it pushes down first and then sets up a nice Bullish Divergence signal to get me in IF its going to fill. [09:22] * tigga_sun is now known as tigga [09:23] Hi Everybody [09:23] hello mjwfinc [09:24] hi whamo how you today [09:25] I am very well today thank you. [09:26] Even though it's dark, rainy and dreary in Atlanta [09:27] Howdy AMT [09:27] Hello Houdini. I mean amt... [09:29] Hello all! [09:29] hi amt [09:29] It's open house week amt and we voted you the one buying the coffe and donuts this morning and the beer this afternoon. [09:29] Hope you don't mind:) [09:30] 1024.50 was my original entry price for the add, add, add, etc trade [09:31] SOLD ALL @ 1023.50 26 ES [09:32] WOW Doggy!!! [09:32] I'm done....Cyu all tomorrow :-) [09:32] Fortunate that Osama or Saddam didn't get wacked this weekend! [09:32] * traderant slaps amt4swa around a bit with a large trout [09:33] AMT... You Chickenheart!... you had 'em by the short hairs! [09:34] I made enough on that one :-) [09:34] Don't know HoseB, but I would hesitate to call a Ranger Chicken of any sort:-) [09:35] You all can call me what ever you want :) [09:35] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1024 -> medium size  [09:35] In any event, it's still, "Kaching!" [09:35] I had a dream last night that the market tanked, went down to 1010. [09:36] So we'll prolly close the gap :D [09:36] Howdy Jazz [09:36] gm jazz! [09:36] good morning [09:36] hi jazz [09:36] GM all [09:36] morning jazz [09:37] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1024.25 --> - 0.25  [09:38] Amt...that's the fastest trade I've seen you do in awhile. [09:38] protecting my profits :-) [09:39] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1024.50  [09:39] whats the open on the es? anyone/ [09:40] 0,3 Long ES @ 1023.50 -> medium size  [09:40] 1024.25 [09:40] thx [09:40] wtg amt [09:40] carminet....that was a big one for me [09:42] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1024.50 --> + 1  [09:43] amt, where do you place your stops? [09:44] big stops that I dial in after awhile....different at different times [09:44] ok. [09:44] 2 to 3 pts sometimes slightly higher at other times [09:45] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1024.5  [09:45] 0,3 Long ES @ 1024 -> medium size  [09:46] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1023.00 -> small size  [09:46] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1023 --> + 1.5  [09:46] 0,3 Long ES @ 1023 -> Add  [09:46] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1023 --> + 1.5  [09:46] great patience jazz [09:47] :) [09:49] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short ES at 1023.5 --> + 1  [09:49] 0,3 covered short ES @ 1023.50 --> - 0.5  [09:49] 0,3 reverse and enter long ES @ 1023.50  [09:49] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 1024 --> + 0.5  [09:54] 0,4 exited all Long: 1022.25 --> - 1.25  [09:54] 0,3 Long ES @ 1022 -> Add  [09:54] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1022 --> + 2.5  [09:55] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1022.25 -> small size  [09:55] i bet amt...nerves of steel payoff [09:56] Big payoff on that one...I need it so I can leave my job soon :) [09:57] that is awesome..I hope oyou can leave sooner rather than later [09:57] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 9511  [09:57] 0,2 Exited Long ES at 1021.75 --> - 0.5  [09:58] 0,3 Long ES @ 1020.25 -> Add  [09:58] 0,3 Long ES @ 1020.5  [09:59] Whamo...Here is the 1020 area we talked about [09:59] Yup, lets see what happens. [09:59] Looked like it would move right thru. [09:59] Holding... [10:00] support in the teens? [10:00] over 20,000 ES volume on last down candle [10:00] Going past my gann support right now... [10:00] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1018.5 --> - 2  [10:01] Very nice parabolic push down. [10:01] Support down at 1k [10:01] 0,3 Long ES @ 1018. -> Add  [10:02] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 1018.25 --> + 6.25  [10:02] you are right Niha [10:02] 0,3 Long ES @ 1018.75  [10:02] great one Jazz!!! [10:02] nice jazz [10:02] thanks guys [10:02] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 9484 --> + 27  [10:03] great job jazz and sempai! [10:03] just following the plan - i try not to take too much credit for either the winners or the losers. [10:04] bbib - gotta restart [10:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1019.00 -> small size  [10:08] (but thanks anyway whamo) [10:09] sempai, YOU still need to be there to pull the trigger on your system. some people can't do that. great attitude though!:) [10:09] ;-) [10:10] amt and / or Nihaba...penny for your thoughts? [10:13] amt, where is your stop? [10:13] pause before more drop or we might just start to build some support in here IMO [10:14] Whamo...I just kicking back this morning and taking it easy... [10:14] 1016 area for my stop [10:15] everything I've see is not worth taking any risk so far. [10:15] Nihaba, I thought about just going back to sleep:-) May do that if this trade doesn't work... [10:16] we need to break 1020.25 to push this up some in here [10:16] 0,3 Long ES @ 1019.75  [10:18] * FFT goes long es @ 1019.75 [10:18] * Looking up gagi user info... [10:19] Hi gagi...your in a ton of realtime chat rooms at the same time... [10:19] Are you looking for something in particular??? [10:19] 0,3 covered all Short: 1020.00 --> - 1  [10:19] there we go...pushing 1020.25 + [10:20] Whamo...now I think we have something here to work with [10:21] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1020.25  [10:23] short 102025 [10:23] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [10:24] 0,2 Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1020.75 --> + 2  [10:25] WTG Whamo [10:25] A gutsy buy Whamo. Way to go. [10:26] Had to puke 3 pts to get it... [10:26] amt is still holding strong, as usual... [10:27] * FFT sells ES to exit long @1020.5 +.75 [10:27] Man, I thought I'd get to 1022 on that one. [10:27] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1019  [10:27] out 102025 >> b.e. [10:28] summary: 1 trade, 1 win. total +27 pts. (YM) [10:28] gotta take off now. see you all later. [10:28] Cya Sempai [10:29] bye. [10:31] * sempai is now known as sempai_afk [10:32] This downside "press" should be over within the next hour... Then, I expect range trading the rest of the day.... [10:32] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1019 --> + 0.25  [10:32] come on 1018.25 [10:35] 0,6 open limit order to enter short ES @ 1025.00  [10:36] * FFT checks to make absolutely sure his sell order at 1022 got cancelled. :) [10:37] :-) Nothing worse then exiting a position and forgetting about a stop... [10:37] Not that it has EVER happened to me...:) [10:38] Yep. That was my profit target on that earlier long. If it gets up to 22, I don't wanna short it :) [10:38] 0,6 exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 19.75  [10:39] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1020.00 -> small size  [10:44] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1021.50 -> Add  [10:44] wb AMT :D [10:44] Are you still long a bunch? [10:44] First time I have ever lost RR connection [10:45] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1372  [10:45] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 21,75 --> + 21,75 - 1019.75  [10:45] yes still long [10:45] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1021.75 --> + 2  [10:45] WD Lindq. [10:45] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short NQ at 1370 --> + 2  [10:47] good job Lindq [10:48] Thx. Was hoping for a real push, but not luck. [10:48] Yeah, I thought we'd tag 22.25. [10:48] I geuss 1022.75 is next target to push for IMO [10:49] could you explain what you based you're entry & exit on Lindq ? [10:49] BTW, great trades lindq and Kalle [10:50] Reminder: DO NOT ignore the moderator's quesitons...to do so is down right rude. Room KICKING is strictly enforced when someone logs in via tons of different rooms and ignores moderators (room ops) questions. [10:50] Entry based on divergence between CCI and ADX. Exit based on opinion that push was stalling. [10:50] amt, es volume indicator starting to hook from bottom at -30 [10:50] hook up [10:50] * gagi was kicked by NihabaAshi (Ignores all my questions while logged into multiple rooms!!!) [10:51] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1072  [10:51] Yeah, looking kinda short term toppy here [10:51] * Timer 1 activated [10:51] * Timer 1 halted [10:51] * gagi was kicked by NihabaAshi (Auto-log into multiple rooms!!!) [10:52] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short NQ at 1071.5 --> + 0.5  [10:52] hmm, told ya not to mess w/ those Rangers:-) [10:52] Whamo...great "play by play" [10:52] Whamo is calling LONG for the money! [10:53] amt, I didn't say that!! Just that it was hooking up... :) [10:54] -30 and hooking up is good sign....let me know the vector angle in about 10 minutes [10:54] long nq 1371 [10:54] Whamo...don't you love the pressure :-) [10:54] TICK may be breaking down [10:55] Not really, I'm a behind the scenes guy. [10:56] 0,2 Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1020 --> + 1.5  [10:56] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short NQ at 1070 --> + 2  [10:57] exit long nq 1373 +2 [10:58] 0,2 Covered remainder Short NQ at 1372 --> - 300  [10:59] niha do you see a positive div forming? [10:59] we printed 1022 on the last 5 min ES candle....we need 1022 to break soon [11:00] 20.25 also shows up as strong S&R, AMT. [11:00] From overnight [11:00] I Agree [11:00] 0,3 covered all Short: 1020.25 --> - 0.25  [11:00] I've got a pivot at just over 1018. [11:00] About 1018.19 [11:01] you think your pivot will hit [11:01] nickpaulus thnx lindq [11:01] I think it'll act as S&R. [11:01] i tried shooting for 2 point earlier but it didn't hit [11:01] Not sure about it's "magnetic" qualities :) [11:01] points [11:02] TICK breaking down big time, [11:02] I'll try one more time for 1018.25 [11:02] 0,3 Long ES @ 1019.50  [11:03] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1018.00  [11:03] Could be making a H&S on the 3 minute charts. [11:04] Not that I put much confidence in that pattern :) [11:05] Wow...great fight in here...1019 to 1020 [11:06] TRIN's climbing nicely, but so is TICK [11:06] If this holds...this is great level of support for LONG's [11:06] * Looking up frootloops user info... [11:06] * Retrieving #FuturesTrades info... [11:06] Whamo called it to me pre market....1020 area [11:06] Come on amt, push it up. Go long 45 contracts would ya??? [11:07] Whamo....more pressure for ya! [11:07] :) [11:07] Robby...what chart interval are you talking about a prior bullish divergence ??? [11:07] 45 would be a f@rt in the hurricane here :-) [11:08] Plenty of shorts out there for you guys to squeeze :) [11:08] I think you might be able to see it on 15 and 30min [11:09] OK, let's go tag that 22.25 mark :D [11:09] Whamo...hows the vector looking [11:10] 60 to 70 degrees but still up [11:10] correction. just went sideways on ES and down on SP [11:11] OK...thanx [11:12] I'm with you FFT...1022.25 [11:12] i still want 1018.25 [11:12] * FFT notes that he is not in a trade, so he's not *that* confident :D [11:14] Till now. [11:14] * FFT long ES @ 1020.25 [11:14] * NihabaAshi is now known as paulus5 [11:14] * paulus5 is now known as NihabaAshi [11:15] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1020 --> + 0.25  [11:16] teeter totter land [11:16] Robby...sorry about the delay... [11:16] I do see a "weak" bullish divergence via the 15min all session chart. [11:16] Robby is holding 25 ES waiting for your reply [11:17] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1019.00  [11:17] :-) [11:17] oh but I just increased to 250 :) [11:17] I'm trading amt style [11:17] yeah, because amt said to average in:) [11:17] no wonder it is finally pushing [11:18] * JavaGuest51 is now known as paulus5 [11:18] 0,2 Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1021.50 --> + 2  [11:19] we had like a two bouncer off the 1019 price level [11:19] Reminder: Its OPEN HOUSE WEEK...anybody can log in without a password. [11:19] come on 1022....break! [11:19] sweet! [11:19] ok I will log in then [11:19] nice volume on this push!!! [11:19] * FFT exit all 1022 +.75 [11:19] Morning downside press is likely over... for the rest of the day, "normal" params of support/resist and overbought/oversold will prevail [11:20] Whoops, that's +1.75 :D [11:20] Robby...that signal price for the divergence I see (hindsight) was 1021.00 @ 1045am est [11:20] 0,6 open limit order to enter long ES @ 1019.00  [11:21] yes oh great "HoseBwonkanoBe" [11:21] Robby called it for the money!!! [11:21] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1022.25  [11:21] yes but I couldnt buy my train ticket [11:21] Good one FFT [11:21] Thanks AMT. [11:22] Just a "behavioral pattern" observation [11:22] I really didn't think we'd push thru 22.25 so easily though. [11:22] * Looking up frootloops user info... [11:22] NAZ AD line just keeps on aclimbin'. [11:22] frootloops...please read private message I sent you...thanks. [11:22] 1022.75 break would be real nice...high of the 5 min candle @ 09:55 [11:23] HoseB....I think you are right!!! [11:24] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1375 -> small size  [11:25] 1022.75 break attempt on deck? [11:26] Players are not convinced of the downside YET... if there is going to be a break, will come tomorrow or later [11:26] Sounds good to me [11:26] 0,2 Covered Short NQ at 1375 --> 0  [11:26] As for today, they're not sure whether they should chase downside... Morning "negs" have now been priced in... [11:27] push down this morning was a little bit more than I expected [11:27] But it sure helped me out [11:27] long nq 1374.5 [11:27] Market could end +/- 5 points or so from here, but for TODAY, they're probably now fading S/R [11:28] exit long nq 1372.5 -2 [11:28] And ST overbought/oversold oscillators [11:31] FFT, how's your NAD adv/dec line [11:33] I think it's trying to fool people into thinking it's leveling off :) [11:33] Just resumed climbing :D [11:35] Good place for a short term top, though. [11:35] missed @ 1023 [11:35] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [11:37] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1020.00  [11:38] target @ 1023.75 now for exit [11:42] Man, those 150 contract trades that went by represent $7,663,125.00 worth of stock. [11:42] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1020.75 --> + 1.5  [11:43] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 1019.75  [11:43] Good job Awash [11:44] good one Awash [11:45] thanks [11:48] * Timer 1 activated [11:48] * Timer 1 halted [11:48] * frootloops was kicked by NihabaAshi (Ignores room ops questions and not participating!!!) [11:50] * Lindq things maybe Niha is going thru trade withdrawal? [11:50] Naz AD line hinting at a top. [11:50] Lindq...traders no what the deal is before arriving... [11:51] I think we can all agree on this... Niha IS consistant! [11:51] Let's se if that line can make a new high. [11:51] Yep, a good policy. Sure don't want this to degrade to ET [11:51] Hey man, ET is GOOD... I got a Thousand Posts!!! [11:52] I'm a few dozen shy of 1k. [11:52] Ah, so you're the eyeballs they're selling to advertisers! [11:52] I was just kidding, I'd NEVER admit to a thousand posts on ET!! [11:53] I've been on it for years :) [11:54] Naz AD line uncertain about making a new high, could be topped for a while. [11:55] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1019.75 --> + 0.25  [11:55] Sheesh, you guys don't need to go out and sell the market just based on my comments :D [11:55] Nice use of stops, Whamo. Way to trail. [11:55] ES EKG is flatlined. [11:56] Let's go take a look at that 18.25 mark :D [11:56] HoseB, you still going long at 1019? [11:56] My order is in [11:57] Naz AD Line officially has lower low and lower high - change in trend. [11:57] It's fairly likely there will be NO signficant breakdown below today's lows on this daey [11:58] Yeah, I don't think we'll really hit 18.25 on this downdraft. [11:58] Thanks Lindq [11:59] Mebbe... 17 even... but I think it's "slop around noise" the rest of the day [11:59] Hey, we might get a long at 19, a short at 25, etc... [11:59] * Lindq is taking lunch during this flatline. Whamo, please yell real loud if anything happens. [12:00] :) [12:00] Market still only giving me weak trade signals...I'm still on the sidelines. [12:03] I might get another decent long setup down here. [12:05] FFT...I'm looking at one also... [12:06] However...its a weak one. [12:06] 0,3 Long ES @ 1020.50 -> small size  [12:06] 3 contracts only...1 point stop. [12:07] Yeah, I got a weak one, too weak for me :( [12:07] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1019.50  [12:07] Reason why I got a tight stop...so if I'm wrong...easy to bounce back from today or tomorrow. [12:09] My trade is via a weak bullish divergence signal on the 3min all session chart. [12:10] Not stopped out, Nihaba? Cool. :) [12:10] PUNKS [12:10] :( [12:10] Unbelivable...I must have been first in line :( [12:10] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1019.50 --> - 1  [12:11] Naz AD line is threatening to change trend back to up. [12:12] There's that 18.25 :) [12:12] 0,3 limit order to enter long filled ES @ 1019.00  [12:13] i know [12:13] i wanted that level over an hour ago [12:13] Hmmm, more weak long sigs :P [12:17] 0,3 Long ES @ 1018.75 -> small size  [12:18] I picked off a quick push down in the interval after the Bullish White Hammer on the 3min all session chart...not a divergence signal. [12:18] perfect entry [12:19] Kalle...I've been doing Candlestick pattern delay entries after their signals for better entry prices for about 3 weeks now... [12:19] its been paying off so far. [12:19] :) [12:20] I'm not out of the woods yet on this candlestick signal... [12:21] Is your stop 18? [12:21] The 3min all session chart interval needs to close above the 5eMA chart for me to move my stop to breakeven. [12:21] FFT...1 point stop again. [12:21] that 3m hammer on 3m at 12:15 is ur sig, niha? [12:21] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1019.50  [12:22] traderant...yes. [12:22] I gave a free seminar about it a few months ago. [12:22] Chicago says they don't think they can take it down to 17.75, Nihaba - they asked if you could raise your stop :) [12:23] :) [12:24] I would'uv chased the price no more than 0.25 when signal occurred at 1019.50 [12:24] Thus...I was willing to get long no more than 1019.75 [12:25] Still no price close above the 5eMA to help me out. [12:25] My breadth indicators are in Range Mode (tm). [12:26] FFT...same here...another reason why I have a tight 1 point stop. [12:26] 0,3 Long ES @ 1019.75  [12:26] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1018.25  [12:27] FFT what breadth indicators do you use ? [12:27] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1018.75  [12:27] Naz AD Line, TICK, TRIN mostly [12:27] Naz Advancers and Naz Decliners [12:27] Stop now at breakeven because 3min interval finally completed an interval above that 5eMA line. [12:29] There you guys go :) [12:29] 0,2 Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1020.25 --> + 1.5  [12:30] Niha :) [12:30] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1019.00  [12:30] Naz AD line has potential for an upside breakout. [12:31] Profit target for my remainder is the declining 200eMA line... [12:31] TRIN at solid resistance at 1.28 [12:32] currently about 1023.678 and declining. [12:32] Via the 3min all session chart. [12:34] bbl [12:34] Cya Jazz [12:34] thnx FFT ; sorry for the late reply [12:34] Yer welcome. [12:35] GTot a breakout in Naz AD line :) [12:35] I'm raising stop again by .25 to ensure I'm profitable for the day with commissions included. [12:35] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1019.25  [12:36] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1019.00  [12:36] I won't raise my trailing stop again until (IF) price tests 1021.00 price level. [12:37] * Looking up tuz user info... [12:38] Reminder: New VISITORS are not allowed to LURK... [12:38] you must participate via posting a trade, asking questions or responding to the moderator questions. [12:38] Simple questions like...Are you trading today? [12:38] :) [12:38] ;) [12:41] Niha... what about responding to the Lackey's questions?? [12:41] Who is Lackey??? [12:41] All of US guys!! [12:42] Goin' for a joke... come on! [12:42] Reminder: Please post paper trades or real money trades...or trades via anything new your testing... [12:42] Just don't lurk. [12:42] Nihaba's stop at 19 coming up, IMO. [12:43] Snot either... goin to 25 [12:43] FFT...I still got a few things on my side...hopefully my stop for the remainder can hold. [12:43] tuz...thanks for responding to my questions. [12:44] np [12:44] If you have any questions...just ask. [12:44] how do i make 10 points a day? [12:44] lol [12:45] I can tell ya tuz. Just send me 50 bucks, and I'll share my secrets with you, seeing as how you are a close, personal friend and all. :D [12:45] 10 per day??? just fade Niha [12:45] (Just kidding) [12:45] lol [12:45] Follow my multiple "add" plays :-) [12:45] tuz...if I can give you a guaranteed answer...I would also stop buying lotto tickets. [12:46] :) [12:46] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1019.25 --> + 0.5  [12:46] Sorry Nihaba, I just call em. :( [12:46] :( [12:47] Its was a good trade management...so I'm not upset :) [12:47] I still think we got 1019 on the radar [12:47] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [12:48] Well, we hjad 1019 even on the bid, anyways :D [12:49] * amt4swa is going to relax and have lunch [12:50] what are you going to have for lunch? [12:51] Knowing amt, probably steak:) [12:51] Hopefully he'll have a bear sandwhich :) [12:51] w/truffles! [12:51] I think he's still long unless I missed his exit [12:51] Anyone know? [12:52] Yep, he's long [12:52] Thank you! [12:53] for answering that is FFT [12:53] :-) [12:53] so whats it gonna be amt4 [12:53] for lunch? [12:53] well yea [12:54] I'm looking for a push as we get closer to 14:00 [12:54] lunch is just some chicken the wife made [12:55] worked all last night so I am too tired to go anywhere [12:55] I'm gonna grill up some Turkey dogs in a bit. [12:56] chicken [12:56] i see [12:56] fried? [12:56] roasted? [12:56] rottiisiriie? [12:56] I missed 1023 earlier at 11:30...to long of a line :-) [12:56] boiled? [12:56] baked I think [12:56] wow [12:57] tastes very good actually [12:57] * FFT nods [12:57] My wife has this stand up thing that we bake chicken on. Gets crunchy on the outside - good stuff. [12:57] sounds real good [12:58] I wish P.F. Chang's delivered [12:59] I am hungry for their sweet and sour chicken with a side of spring rolls ;-) [12:59] That's it, lunchtime for me :) [12:59] * FFT is now known as FFT_Lunch [13:00] I had steak yesterday watching the "Vikes" :) [13:00] AMT, do you have the NFL package [13:01] with your local satelite provider [13:01] No...I go to sports bars in town...mainly to scream and yell and have fun [13:03] 0,6 cancelled all open stop orders  [13:04] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1018.50  [13:07] I get rid of my emotions during sporting events so that I'm numb for trading ;) [13:07] works real good [13:10] :-) [13:10] what is going on with the Falcon's [13:11] Vickless? [13:11] I like the 5 min ES volume pick up...could get a small pop in here [13:14] well...volume stalling out on this bar [13:14] more watch and see [13:14] * amt4swa is finally off to eat [13:18] * Kalle is now known as Kalle_|_away [13:18] Yep. Lost our star QB [13:19] Gotta feel a little sorry for a QB who breaks his leg in preseason. [13:20] * FFT_Lunch is now known as FFT [13:21] Not much follow through during today's dead zone. [13:21] Nope, I picked an awesome time for lunch :D [13:22] I was hoping to sneak in early with that last trade and "steal" a good uptrend for several points. [13:22] But it wasn't really a good, honest setup, was it. Eh? [13:23] I'm back on the sidelines waiting for a good push down to resetup a possible [13:23] Me too. I'd like a nice long entry for a double. [13:23] It was a weak Long signal during the dead zone... [13:23] a signal I would not normally take during the first hour. [13:24] In other words...dead zone wiggles "usually" aren't deep...reason why I can sometimes use a tight stop. [13:25] Do you use a different time frame? [13:25] I'm still waiting for a strong bullish divergence signal or a parabolic uptrend to setup a possible bearish divergence signal. [13:26] Lindq...I'm always watching 3min and 15min charts in the afternoons. [13:26] Sometimes I'll watch just about any type of higher chart interval. [13:26] Setups on both, or one for setups and one for confirmation? [13:27] Depends of the trade setup. [13:28] There's been some higher lows since that Bullish White Hammer on the 3min all session chart (1215pm est)... [13:28] market has some stability as long as it doesn't make new intraday lows. [13:29] There are a lot of shorts to provide that nice panicy uptrend that i like :) [13:39] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1019.00  [13:44] Shorts are looking for exits [13:49] * Kalle_|_away is now known as Kalle [13:55] We've got a decent chance of breaking out to the upside, if only the market harmonics would synch up. [13:59] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [14:00] Market harmonics: Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [14:01] 0,2 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1019.00 --> - 0.75  [14:01] Well, let's go see that 18.25 again [14:11] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1366  [14:11] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long NQ at 1368.5 --> + 2.5  [14:14] 0,2 Exited remainder Long NQ at 1367 --> + 1  [14:18] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1364.5 -> small size  [14:19] Niha, you're not getting a bullish divergence signal now [14:20] 0,4 exited all Long: 1018.00 --> - 1  [14:21] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1363.5  [14:21] = avg [14:24] Awash...not yet. [14:24] If it does...It'll be another weak one. [14:25] This time I will not bite on it. [14:25] Yeah :P [14:25] Note: Last time I said that...several trading days ago...was that last strong uptrend day :) [14:25] What was AMT's lowest add? [14:26] on the FOMC trading day? [14:26] i'm getting some divergence but it's not worth it after last week [14:26] i don't want every reversal signal [14:28] Awash...I'm still waiting for that weak bullish divergence signal... [14:28] if it confirms...I may play it with 1 contract only. [14:28] okay [14:28] for me, i should take it because I'm up good today [14:28] Finally some weakness. Go baby! [14:28] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1362  [14:29] but I don't want to test divergence now after a strong down trend [14:29] otherwise it'll be last week all over again [14:29] Awash...exactly...however...manage your risk via reducing your size while protecting your profits so far today. [14:30] Here's AMTs stop, as i recall. [14:30] Awash...to answer your prior question...it was last Thursday...not the FOMC day. [14:30] okay [14:30] support at 1016? [14:31] 0,3 Long ES @ 1016.75  [14:32] Fine time for a reverse :) [14:32] what do you have on your NAZ AD line [14:32] Hit bottom and starting to dig [14:34] I think we'll need to test 1016 again before we can go back up. IMHO. [14:34] Tempting...tempting [14:34] :) [14:35] 0,3 Long ES @ 1017.25  [14:39] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long NQ at 1362 --> 0  [14:40] * Looking up lump user info... [14:41] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1017.25 --> 0  [14:41] Argh. Too weak. [14:42] 0,2 Exited remainder Long NQ at 1362 --> 0  [14:42] Lindq...you stole a nice entry...that follow through just didn't show up in time. [14:43] It was a weak Lindy Divergence. I was just hoping... [14:44] More ewak long sigs :P [14:44] weak, even [14:45] This kinda day is a little frustrating. Down sharply, but no strong short signals. [14:45] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1017.25 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:45] Lindq...agree. [14:46] 18.50 stp [14:46] But, tomorrow I should finally start picking up some nice swings on weakness. [14:53] htere's that 16 retest [14:56] anyone worked w/ jtrader? [14:57] yeah [14:57] i use it [14:57] PM me [14:57] :) [14:57] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1017.25 --> 0 4,0 «« paper »»  [14:57] time stop [14:59] * FFT buys ES @ 1017.5 [15:00] limit order to exit at 18.5 [15:00] Whoops, make taht 18.75 [15:01] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1018.5 --> + 1.75  [15:01] Bingo. We've got a long! [15:06] * FFT sells ES at 18.75, +1.25 [15:08] HoseB...which broker are you using again??? [15:09] eLocal... [15:09] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1365  [15:10] Are you happy with them...overall... [15:10] I mean...do they cause losses via their platform problems??? [15:11] While nobody is perfect [15:11] They've been "as expected", I'd say [15:11] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short NQ at 1364 --> + 1  [15:11] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [15:12] In the last year, I can remember only 2 or 3 times they were down... said, "backbone" trouble... after [15:12] a bit, switched to backup backbone [15:13] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short NQ at 1363 --> + 2  [15:13] Trades have always been OK, and I've always been able to reach their phone desk and tech support [15:14] U want a phone number?? 1-866-296-4266 [15:15] HoseB...no...I'm at their site now. [15:15] is that the PrettyEbony sex Line? [15:16] * traderant slaps tuz around a bit with a large trout [15:16] 0,2 Covered remainder Short NQ at 1362.5 --> + 2.5  [15:16] tuzyou want the another chat room [15:16] I'm still looking for a backup broker I can use to maximize leverage as a hedge in case I'm stuck in the middle of a trade at my primary broker. [15:17] I'm currently looking at eLocal, Advance Futures and daytrade4less.com [15:17] That's a good idea... I've got 2, both of which I can reach by phone. [15:17] I believe Advance Futures is another arm of Rosenthal Collins, as is eLocal [15:21] I just added VelocityFutures to my list to check out also. [15:25] 0,2 Exited remainder Long ES at 1019.50 --> 0  [15:29] AMT never made it back from lunch? [15:29] HoseB...I currently have 3 brokers...Zap, PFG and IB. [15:29] I'm looking to dump IB. [15:30] PFG ? [15:30] Jazz, how long were you in that trade? [15:30] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1019.50  [15:31] found it ... google [15:32] about 30min, that post was a stop hit from earlier, as I just got back to my desk, I wanted to post it [15:34] paulus5...sorry...I always use the word PFG instead of PFG Best http://www.pfgbest.com [15:35] oke np thnx ! [15:36] Pulling profits out of today's market via Long positions... [15:36] was a tough act. [15:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1018.75  [15:36] Paper tRADE [15:37] * FFT shorts NQ @ 1363.5 *paper* [15:38] I'm calling it quits early today...going for a nice scenic walk with spouse and the baby. [15:38] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAS [15:38] Cya tomorrow, Nihaba [15:38] * NihabaAS is now known as NihabaAshi_waterfron [15:38] good idea thnx [15:38] sounds good niha.. [15:40] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1019.25 -> small size  [15:41] 0,6 cancelled all open limit orders  [15:43] * FFT covers NQ short @ 1363, +.5 *paper* [15:43] * Kalle is now known as Kalle_|_away [15:45] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1018.50 --> + 1  [15:52] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1020.00 --> - 1.25  [15:52] Paper trade, fortunately. [15:52] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long ES at 1020.25 --> + 1  [15:52] * Lindq signing off [15:52] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 1020.25 --> - 0.75  [15:53] That's a wrap for me folks, see ya all tomorrow. [15:53] 0,2 Exited remainder Long ES at 1020.75 --> + 1.5  [15:58] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1021  [16:00] 0,2 Covered 1/3 Short ES at 1020.75 --> + 0.25  [16:00] 1020.25 [16:09] 0,2 Covered remainder Short ES at 1020.75 --> + 0.25  [16:09] good night all [16:23] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. 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