Session Start: Thu Sep 11 07:42:49 2003 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [07:42] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [07:42] * Topic is 'Active realtime trade posting ES, NQ, SPY, QQQ, YM, DIA (private and free)...more info at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm' [07:42] * Set by X on Tue Sep 09 21:11:10 [07:42] [NihabaAshi] Password changes, trade post script changes and trader profiles are posted ONLY at free discussion board at http://www.thestrategylab.com/Forums.htm [08:02] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [08:17] gm niha, do you expect much action today/ [08:17] * is is now known as traderant [08:19] Yes. [08:19] Reason why I'm logged in a little early... [08:20] hoping the 0830am est key economic reports can get me in on something early. [08:20] Allowing me to ride it with follow through when 0930am est arrives. [08:22] just a thought...do you really think they would sell this mkt being that its 911 and all. if they do it'll be mild [08:23] Don't underestimate the power of capitalism... [08:23] traders are here to make a living and support their family... [08:24] If they can do that via letting the market close lower... [08:24] They will. [08:24] If they can do that by letting the market go up... [08:24] They will. [08:24] In other words...the volume may be lacking (if)... [08:24] but its business as usual. [08:25] i cant argue with that :) [08:34] dou you trade Dec today ? [08:34] yes kalle [08:35] k [08:35] I don't until the volume for Z becomes greater than the volume for U [08:35] but be careful, lots of positions getting out of sept into dec [08:36] good point niha [08:36] 8,4 >>>>> 8,2 several exchanges observe four seperate one-minute periods of silence today : 8:46am, 9:03am , 9:59am and 10:29am EST 8,4 <<<<< 1,0 [08:49] 0,3 Long ES @ 1012.00 -> small size [08:50] 3 contracts only via a weak Bullish Divergence signal. [08:53] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 1012.00 [08:54] I didn't expect the ES to do what it is doing so early...I expected the ES to trade sideways after those economic numbers until 0930am est... [08:54] and then do what it is doing now. [08:55] * FFT_Breakfast is now known as FFT [08:59] Yeah, I dunno if I will trade today - don't like low volume. [08:59] I'm going to leave my stop where it is... [09:00] You must still be trading Sept., eh? [09:00] that low of the sell-off is now a key support area 1011.00 [09:00] Yes. [09:00] I won't switch contract until after 0930am est and when volume for Z > U. [09:13] Market has moved further than I expected... [09:13] I need to adjust my trailing stop. [09:13] you rock niha [09:13] great trade, Niha :) [09:13] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1013.00 [09:14] :) [09:14] when i get old i want to be like you ;} [09:14] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [09:14] I got tired of seeing Kalle and Tigga show up early...early bird gets the worm :) [09:17] lol [09:19] averaged +20/contract today by trading the ESTX50 :) [09:23] * traderant is now known as traderant_away [09:26] gm everyone [09:27] GM all :-) [09:28] Two years ago...how terrible it was!!! [09:28] mornin [09:28] I hope all the families are doing better!!!!! [09:31] 0,3 Long ES @ 1013.75 -> medium size [09:32] NQ about to come up against some resistance [09:32] Reminder: Some traders are already trading the Z contract and some are still trading the U contract. [09:32] * FFT is Z Tradin [09:32] I'm trading the Z today [09:32] Z contract is now greater than U contract in volume... [09:33] Drivin the "Z" [09:33] I'll switch from U to Z as soon as I exit my U Long position. [09:33] ES gonna break 0ut, IMO [09:34] :) [09:34] NQ not following yet, though. [09:35] I think there are some big $$$ people that want the market to at least end positive today to send a message [09:35] just my humble opinion [09:35] And there goes NQ [09:37] 0,2 Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1017.00 --> + 5 [09:37] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1015 --> + 1.25 [09:37] nice trades [09:37] Well timed exits, gentlemen. [09:37] I'm still holding 1 contract from U. [09:37] niha did you buy before market open? [09:37] great one Niha! [09:37] Not from me, Nihaba. I didn't short. :D [09:38] [08:49] Long ES @ 1012.00 -> small size [09:38] Yes :) [09:38] 0,3 Long ES @ 1014.50 -> medium size [09:38] Robby...I caught a nice little weak bullish divergence signal. [09:38] jbt reported in another room that last year we had a morning rally that reverseed in the PM. [09:39] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1014.00 [09:40] lemme take a look [09:40] FFT...I'm reviewing last Sept 11th charts right now as we speak. [09:41] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1015.00 -> small size [09:42] Last Sept 11th Charts info... [09:42] Market didn't open until 12noon est... [09:42] It went up a few points for 6mins... [09:43] then begin slowly selling off until the close. [09:43] ES bounced right off the pivot at 1015.75 [09:43] 1016 was my target for long...not yet :( [09:44] NQ breaking support [09:44] 0,3 Long ES @ 1014 -> medium size [09:44] That's an add, right AMT? [09:44] that was suppose to be add..messed up again [09:44] :D [09:45] Script needs a DWIM interface (Do What I Mean). [09:45] my "two finger popper" is a little too rested today [09:45] TICK breaking down [09:46] 0,3 Long ES @ 1013 -> medium size [09:47] amt how did you get your target of 1016? [09:47] I sleeped twelve hours last night...7pm to 7am and I feel good [09:47] out of the air robby :) [09:48] Tomorrow a Proctologist with a flashlight will show us where AMT gets his targets :) [09:48] I just thought we might push a little higher [09:48] that will hurt :( [09:49] Actually AMT, I do have 1016.25 as a SR line. [09:49] I was shooting just below that [09:49] ES below 200 ema on 3 minute [09:50] Same with NQ [09:50] should be a good fight in here around 1013 area [09:50] TICK BACK ABOVE ZERO :) [09:50] Whoops, sorry for the caps [09:51] I liked the CAPS [09:52] Gonna be hard to have a big up day with TRIN starting at only .4, IMveryHO. [09:53] good point [09:53] 1015.25 is my new target area [09:53] to bail on this trade [09:54] I don't have an order parked...just going to watch it when it hits that area [09:55] Sure be an awesome day for GWB to announce the capture of OBL :) [09:56] one minute of silence coming up, includes Globex. [09:57] 9:59 [09:57] I would love that...but I don't think they have him yet...I think we are real close though [09:57] are we on sept or dec futures? [09:57] I'm Z baby (Dec). [09:57] Nihaba is U still [09:57] Z ride [09:57] 8,4 REMINDER > 8,2 one minute of silence @ 9:59 am EST 8,4 < REMINDER 1,0 [09:57] Unless he got out on that last one. [09:58] Z is now the most active... [09:58] Front Month [09:58] Yeah, most folks switch to Z at the open [09:58] I dunno if yer gonna get your .25, AMT :( [09:58] Moment of silence is at 0959am est in the markets. [09:59] nq03z [10:00] That's a wrap on the MOS [10:01] I feel a small pop soon [10:02] not diet pop either [10:02] the real thing [10:02] I would at least like us to re do the HOD once [10:03] NQ to retest support [10:03] Lookit all that green on my T&S :D [10:04] 15.75 is resistance [10:04] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1015.50 --> + 2.5 [10:04] TICK thru the roof [10:04] I like POP [10:04] VIX still making lower highs. [10:05] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1015.00 [10:05] 0,4 exited long ES @ 1015.25 --> + 0.25 [10:05] 0,4 reverse and enter short ES @ 1015.25 [10:05] HOD twice so far...Three time and we might push a little higher [10:07] one, two, three..... [10:07] 0,3 Long ES @ 1015.25 -> medium size [10:07] Yeah, I think we're gonna breakout [10:07] Maybe...find out soon [10:08] NQ ain helpen though :( [10:08] Good morning. [10:08] Howdy Whamo [10:08] Here it comes [10:08] GM Whamo...get my crazy email? [10:08] Yes, writing a reply:-) [10:08] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1016.25 --> + 1 [10:09] no rush :) [10:09] 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 1016.00 [10:10] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1016 -> medium size [10:11] 0,2 Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1017.25 --> + 5.25 [10:11] Great One!!! [10:11] wd Nihaba! [10:11] Ok...I'm done with the U contract...will spend a few minutes redoing my workstation and converting everything over to the Z contract. [10:14] Traderant....sorry for all the bad hammer jokes yesterday [10:14] :-) [10:15] Tweezer top on the ES 5 min.... [10:15] Shorts-R-Us [10:16] 15.5 is strong support for ES [10:16] NQ will have to lead us lower, IMO [10:17] Or maybe not :D [10:17] There goes NQ [10:18] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1015 --> + 1 [10:19] 0,4 Shorts ES @ !)!$>&% 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:19] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1015 -> medium size [10:19] left to early I think on the last one [10:19] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1014.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:20] Nice short FFT...is that a "wildcard" short...you get to make up the entry price :() [10:20] 0,2 Covered all Short ES at 1014 --> + 0.75 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:21] Yeah, my darn keyboard was stuck in caps lock and I couldn't get it out :) [10:21] Good thing my trading interfaces are all point & click [10:21] You might need a Procto and a flashlight [10:21] 0,4 Shorts YM @ 9410 [10:21] test post for new script. [10:22] 0,2 Covered all YM Short @ 9310 --> + 100 [10:22] yahoo. [10:22] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1013 --> + 2 [10:23] Bounce or drop? [10:23] Lower low on ES, lower high and lower low on NQ. [10:23] bounce [10:24] 0,3 Long ES @ 1013.25 -> medium size [10:24] 0,3 covered all Short: 1013.00 --> + 2.25 [10:24] OK Whamo...you called it [10:24] I must have given you the right answer:-) [10:24] didn't post trades today because i didn't have new script. summary: 2 ym trades, 1 win 1 loss, total +10 pts. [10:24] Money is on Whamo :-) [10:25] Now, if I could only pull out 17 pts per day like someone else we both know... [10:26] Not every day....come on now :) [10:26] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [10:26] Just so Nihaba doesn't think I'm just lurking:-) I'm currently in a YM trade from 8:42am [10:26] Long or short? [10:27] gotta take off now - see you all later. [10:27] Cyu! [10:27] Long from 9372 [10:27] 1 trailer left [10:27] 8,4 REMINDER > 8,2 one minute of silence @ 10:29 am EST 8,4 < REMINDER 1,0 [10:27] 0,3 Long ES @ 1013 -> Add [10:28] Thanx Kalle! [10:28] :) [10:29] Sounds good Whamo [10:29] ADD money is on Whamo :) [10:30] :-) [10:30] 1014.50 sound good? [10:31] For what, your add or exit? [10:33] EXIT [10:33] Ok...I'm back... [10:33] I would like to reiterate what traderant said yesterday. Compared to you, WTFDIK? :-) [10:34] No ADD for me above my original entry price...ever [10:34] Good rule. [10:34] 8,2>2,8>8,2>2,8>2,2--8,2 info : GLOBEX front month = December ( Z ) 2,2--2,8<8,2<2,8<8,2< [10:34] my workstations are all setup now with Z and I had to put my son back to sleep...he woke up an hour early from his morning nap :) [10:34] On a "Long" that is [10:34] Napster [10:35] Kalle your announcements show up in yellow color is that what you set it up as? [10:35] Nihaba, have you taught him how to trade yet?:-) [10:35] blue background, yellow text...yep [10:35] mostly [10:36] I have a white background and cant see the yellow, going to see if I can change the background [10:36] come on 1014.50 lets do it [10:36] Gap up on ES 60 tick [10:36] Whamo...not yet :) [10:37] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1014.25 -> small size [10:37] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1014.50 --> + 2.75 [10:38] We caught it! Whamo for the MONEY!!! [10:38] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1014.75 -> medium size [10:39] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1015 -> Add [10:39] Yeah, but I'm still LONG from way back:) [10:39] Wow, compare the 1 minute Dow vs. 1 minute Compx. serious divergence [10:40] All this up cadle volume and no big price push...HMMMM [10:41] YM needs to break thru fast or it's going down. [10:41] MACD is about to roll over here [10:41] Yeah, the Dow just might be putting in a lower high. [10:41] FFT has got it IMO [10:42] FFT...no reply to my flashlight joke? [10:43] Stalling out [10:43] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1342.5 [10:44] Joke too dark :D [10:44] We might get another tweezer top on the 5 min ES...Shortski [10:44] 0,4 exited all Long: 1014.75 --> + 0.5 [10:44] FFT...Bad [10:45] Splatt...good time to bail for awhile [10:45] do a wait see [10:46] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short NQ at 1341 --> + 1.5 [10:47] * yesterday we had some 20,000 ES volume down candlesticks during the day before the drop...nice hints IMO [10:47] * today so far not one 20,000 ES volume candle...no hints yet [10:48] ok keep us informed amt [10:48] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short NQ at 1339.5 --> + 3 [10:48] No Robby, it should be: Please trade my account amt:) [10:48] So far 13,000 range [10:48] :) [10:48] amt and Nihaba should open up a hedge fund together! [10:49] FWIW... eSignal taking a tongue lashing today on ET for its lack of emini volume data [10:49] "Ying and Yang Funds" [10:49] :) [10:49] I've started tracking 1 minute volume on QQQ as surrogate [10:49] Dow has that lower high :) [10:49] 0,2 Covered remainder Short NQ at 1339 --> + 3.5 [10:50] Sweet trade!!! [10:50] :) [10:50] HoseB, they must be providing the volume data but not displaying it. I can get ES vol on Ensign w/ their data feed. [10:50] nice trade kalle [10:50] thx guys [10:51] Well, that's even CRAPPIER!! [10:51] Sorry, didn't mean to bring you down... [10:51] No worries... I'm already down! [10:52] Out all YM long from earlier [10:52] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1013.75 --> + 2.25 [10:52] great trade ! [10:53] Almost like printing money amt. If I didn't see it real time I wouldn't beleive you:) [10:53] hehe [10:53] might drop more [10:53] agree [10:54] lot of support in the1012.25 to 1013 area [10:54] Thanx all [10:56] Fight in here [10:57] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1335.5 -> small size [10:57] 0,3 Long ES @ 1013.00 -> small size [10:58] 3 contracts only [11:01] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1013 -> medium size [11:01] iffy on this one [11:02] Funny...I have the same feeling about my Long :) [11:02] just trading the MACD bias and volume dropping on the 5 min ES [11:02] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long NQ at 1336.5 --> + 1 [11:02] This whole morning has smelled strongly of indecision to me :( [11:03] Hmmm...this needs to move soon to keep my interest. [11:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1013.25 -> Add [11:05] Whole lotta ask nibbling on ES [11:06] 0,2 Exited 1/4 Long NQ at 1337 --> + 1.5 [11:06] 0,2 Exited all ES Long @ 1013.25 --> + 0.25 [11:06] Look at volume on the last bar for the 5 min though [11:06] looks like a pause before more down to me [11:07] 0,2 Exited remainder Long NQ at 1336 --> + 0.5 [11:07] * traderant_away is now known as traderant [11:07] Sorry Niha for the shorts :) [11:07] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1336 [11:08] reversed, late [11:08] i show gap fill on dec contract? [11:08] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short NQ at 1334 --> + 2 [11:08] Yep Trader Ant [11:09] no support right here at the 1012 area [11:09] :) [11:09] nice volume on this bar [11:10] Actually we have 1012.25 asyesterdays close [11:10] 0,2 Covered 1/4 Short NQ at 1333 --> + 3 [11:11] AWESOME [11:11] Kalle is "Deutsche Bank" [11:11] 0,2 Covered remainder Short NQ at 1332 --> + 4 [11:11] Dive! Dive! Dive! [11:12] lol [11:12] Kalle what did you base your exit on? or was it fixed? [11:13] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1332 -> small size [11:13] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1011.50 --> + 3.25 [11:14] WOOOW ! FAT [11:14] Tweezer top for the $$$ Twice today [11:14] Okay amt, how many pts so far? [11:14] that´s 8.125 NQ pts ! GREAT [11:14] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long NQ at 1333 --> + 1 [11:14] 16.0 [11:15] :) [11:15] per on 4 ES [11:15] 0,2 Exited remainder Long NQ at 1332 --> 0 [11:15] Wow, too bad I don't feel comfortable trading someone elses signals... [11:16] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1331 [11:17] Mine are wild...put on your seatbelt first [11:17] Steel plated stomach on some of those adds:) [11:17] yesterday [11:18] I felt like some of you were more worried than I was [11:18] :-) [11:19] True, that's because WE have less money in the bank:) [11:19] Those are VERY HIGH risk trades [11:19] But I felt very very strong about a drop yesterday...that is why all the adds [11:20] 0,2 Exited 1/2 Long NQ at 1332 --> + 1 [11:21] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1011.50 -> medium size [11:21] Bounce or drop here IMO [11:22] * traderant slaps amt4swa around a bit with a large trout [11:22] breakout on deck? [11:23] 0,2 Exited 1/4 Long NQ at 1332.5 --> + 1.5 [11:23] Darn...and i like trout [11:23] 0,2 Exited remainder Long NQ at 1331 --> 0 [11:23] Me too :) [11:24] The DROPPER! [11:24] im the only one allowed on the fence [11:24] 0,2 Covered all ES Short @ 1010.75 --> + 0.75 [11:25] missed 1010.50...thats OK...next time [11:27] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1011.75 -> medium size [11:28] 0,3 Buys ES @ 1012 [11:28] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1012.50 -> Add [11:29] see if we have resistance now in the 1013 area [11:29] That's where my sell order is :D [11:30] good volume on this push now [11:31] 0,2 Exited all Long ES at 1013 --> + 1 [11:31] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1013.25 -> Add [11:34] Man this market feels weird to me today. I wasn't really comfortable even with that measly one point target. [11:35] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1014 -> Add [11:36] It obviously doesn't feel weird to AMT :D [11:37] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1339.5 -> small size [11:38] 0,2 Covered Short NQ at 1340.5 --> - 1 [11:38] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [11:38] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1015.25 -> Add [11:40] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1342.5 [11:42] amt :) [11:42] Good place to short here... :-) [11:43] We might be rejecting that 15.75 point. [11:43] Kalle you finally decided to join me...LOL :) [11:44] 0,2 Covered 1/2 Short NQ at 1341.5 --> + 1 [11:45] I got a gap up in Naz advancers and a gap down in decliners. [11:45] 0,2 Covered remainder Short NQ at 1341.5 --> + 1 [11:46] * Kalle is now known as Kalle_|_away [11:47] Shorts are bailing [11:47] 16.5 rest [11:50] Breakout on deck? [11:50] Anyone else just get kicked off by the server? [11:50] no [11:51] Just you, AMT [11:51] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1016 -> Add [11:52] I'm now on some Fremont, CA server [11:52] never been on that one before [11:53] whose trading dec? anyone/ [11:53] I am now...if I stop missing trade signals :( [11:54] * traderant slaps NihabaAshi around a bit with a large trout [11:54] We're all trading Z [11:54] maybe that [11:54] will help [11:54] That trout again :) [11:55] if you guys have been swinging the same trout for the last few weeks, then its getting pretty smelly here [11:55] gotta figure theres stop above 16.50 to be run [11:58] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 1016 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [11:59] MACD divergence short forming on the 5 min ES [12:00] test [12:00] good eye amt [12:00] Holy mackral, look at all that green in my T&S, and it's not going up. [12:01] you mean trout, right [12:01]