Session Start: Fri Apr 11 08:53:22 2003 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [08:53] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [08:53] * Topic is 'Trade Journals with daily, weekly or monthly results are posted by traders at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm87 Note: Journals are not required.' [08:53] * Set by X on Mon Apr 07 09:19:24 [08:53] [NihabaAshi] Password changes, trade post script changes and trader profiles are posted ONLY at free discussion board at http://www.thestrategylab.com/Forums.htm [08:53] Good morning all. [08:55] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 879.75 -> small size [08:57] Howdy Nihaba - your up early. [08:59] Yep...I'm putting to test a new strategy for trading in the pre-market...it's now ready for real money trading after testing it for 5 months via paper trading. [09:01] I don't normally trade the pre-market...but I want to start doing it consistently because there are some trading opportunities via the volatility caused by the 0830am est Key Economic Report releases. [09:02] If I'm wrong...I still have the after 0930am est trading session to trade profitably. [09:04] * Kalle_walking is now known as Kalle [09:04] good morning everybody [09:05] Good morning Kalle [09:06] Howdy Kalle [09:12] I found a very good link where photos of our beautiful universe are shown ( taken by a 350 MegaPixel digital telescope on Hawaii ). May I post it here ? [09:14] Sure [09:14] Market not officially open yet :) [09:14] :) ok [09:15] http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/HawaiianStarlight/AIOM/English/CFHT-Coelum-AIOM-Feb2002.html [09:15] Yeah, I need an excuse to burn some more bandwidth :D [09:15] and : [09:15] http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/News/MegaPrime/MegaPrime-PR-AstroImage-Rosette.html [09:15] fantastic pictures imo [09:15] lol FFT :) [09:16] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 883.75 [09:16] original resolution is 18000*18000 pixels [09:17] That Short position has a wide stop because its via the 5min chart (higher interval) in comparison to my normal charts for trade entries (1min and 3min) [09:18] what was your entry ? [09:19] [08:55] Shorts ES @ 879.75 -> small size [09:20] thx [09:22] 8,4 >>> 8,2 Michigan University Consumer Sentiment @ 09:45 am EST 8,4 <<< 1,0 [09:27] Hi everybody [09:28] Kalle...my Short entry could get into some trouble because the pattern has changed eventhough I'm at a small profit right now. [09:28] Niha, when do you normally start to trade? [09:28] Usually after 0930am est. [09:29] But today I'm testing a new high probability trade setup with real money after paper trading it for many months...its designed for pre-market action for an early entry. [09:31] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 879.50 [09:31] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 878.25 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:31] Whoops, not paper [09:31] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 878.5 [09:31] 0,2 exit all ES @ 878.25 --> 0 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [09:31] Forced to lower my wide stop because the pattern has changed...no longer in my favor. [09:32] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 878.25 [09:32] 0,2 stop hit ES @ 879.50 --> + 0.25 [09:34] 0,2 exit all ES @ 879.0 --> - 0.5 [09:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 879.75 -> small size [09:38] Looks like all the TV Networks are saying the Michigan Report is due at 10am est instead of 0945am est. [09:38] Because of the confusion...I expect things to get a little more volatile right now. [09:39] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [09:39] 8,4 REMINDER > 8,2 Michigan University Consumer Sentiment @ 09:45 am EST 8,4 < REMINDER 1,0 [09:40] 0,2 exited 0,3 Short: 880.75 --> - 1 [09:42] 0,2 exit all ES @ 882 --> - 3.75 [09:42] heh - we *all* went short [09:42] possible trend day here? [09:42] ratso...you could be right. [09:43] Reason why I exited my Short after it didn't sell-off as expected. [09:44] you had a very nice exit there [09:44] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 882 -> small size [09:44] high risk, only 1 c [09:46] is the number now or at 10? [09:46] Yes. [09:46] my source says now [09:47] there we go [09:47] Reason why I said there will be some volatility because online they say 0945am and TV networks say 10am est. [09:48] 0,3 Buys ES @ 881.5 [09:48] Nuts. I modded one of my indicators last night, and musta fuxored it. Gotta go debug it :( [09:49] 0,2 exit all ES @ 881.75 --> + 0.25 [09:50] what was I thinking - lol :> [09:50] CNBC showing some numbers...weird. [09:50] 0,2 exited 0,3 Short: 882 --> 0 [09:51] I guess it's out. Very confusing timeline after CNBC specifically said 10am est about 3x since 0925am est. [09:51] 83.2 vs 79 expected [09:52] Niha: Barrons online had it coming out at 9:45am [09:53] yay p^t is here - clouds lift! [09:53] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 882.25 [09:53] lol [09:53] 0,2 exited 1/2 0,3 Short: 881.25 --> + 1 [09:53] gm ratso, everyone [09:53] hi p^t [09:54] hello p^t [09:54] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1049.00 -> small size [09:55] I'm going to hold this as long as possible :) [09:55] 0,2 exited 1/4 0,3 Short: 879.50 --> + 2.75 [09:55] nice Niha [09:55] nice [09:56] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 8880.50 ť [09:56] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 880.50 ť [09:56] WOW ! nice fill [09:56] sorry for late post, but wanted to get it in, was about the same time as niha's entry [09:57] 0,2 exited remainder 0,3 Short: 878.75 --> + 3.5 [09:57] target hit [09:57] I put an order about 1 point below the 50eMA support on the NQ. [09:58] :) after seeing it was a Bearish Engulfing pattern. [09:58] man it really gave way there, the NQ [09:58] any news? [09:58] don´t think so -- except the numbers [10:00] yeah that was a reverse the trend on the release of the numbers [10:01] y [10:01] anytime i see a strong trend into a release of economic numbers i always look out for a reversal pattern to form [10:01] thus why i went short [10:02] 0,3 Covered 1/2 Short ES Ť 887.00 ť - 6.5 [10:02] 0,3 Covered 1/2 Short ES Ť 877.00 ť + 3.5 [10:02] sorry [10:03] p^t, what kind of reversal pattern were you looking for here? [10:03] 0,2 exit 2/3 NQ @ 1040.00 --> + 9 [10:03] well there are several that i look for [10:04] I like the IRS significance there (1040). [10:04] Friday = payday :) [10:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 878.25 [10:05] * Kalle is now known as Kalle_busy [10:06] Niha, how can those trades be posted? Any special procedure? [10:07] 0,2 exit all ES @ 878.25 --> 0 [10:08] 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1040 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:09] 0,2 exit all NQ @ 1038 --> + 2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:09] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 875.00 ť + 5.5 [10:10] man that was nice [10:11] Lojze...just a minute... [10:12] Nuts, I watned the gap close, bailed too soon :( [10:14] 0,2 exit remainder NQ @ 1036.00 --> + 13 [10:15] Isn't the number 13 suppose to be bad luck on a Friday :) [10:16] sweet trade Niha ! [10:16] Lojze...I thought you had installed the Trade Posting Script in your mIRC software... [10:19] Lojze...go to this link at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm88 [10:19] Then click on the thread that saids "Trade Posting Script Installation"...follow the instructions carefully when you have time to set it up. [10:21] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 872.25 [10:21] 0,6 open sell stop to enter short NQ @ 1032 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:24] 0,2 exit all ES @ 871.75 --> + 0.5 [10:24] I'm switching back to the ES because NQ is no longer in the favorable trading pattern. [10:31] derrickliang@hotmail.com [10:31] sorry [10:31] :) [10:37] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 872.25 ť [10:37] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 872 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:39] 0,3 Covered 1/2 Short ES Ť 871.00 ť + 1.25 [10:40] gotta head out. Have a good weekend everyone. [10:40] Cya on Monday dude [10:40] thanks for your help p^t! [10:41] The Winning Trader Book! [10:41] This 130 page book makes deep inroads into a trader's psyche and helps traders develop the winning edge. Innerworth's foremost trading psychologist, Dr. Michael Shopshire delivers a masterpiece that belongs in every trader's tool chest. Get your pre-distribution copy today for only $19.95(33% off the cover price) plus $4.95 for shipping and handling a total of just $24.95. Order here for this special offer. [10:42] Niha, do you think this book is good? [10:43] Lojze...I posted my comments in the other room. [10:43] Welcome Martin :) [10:44] Thanks! [10:45] 0,2 exit all ES @ 870 --> + 2 4,0 ŤŤ paper ťť [10:46] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 869.75 ť + 2.5 [10:48] 0,3 Buys ES @ 869.0 [10:48] We did nice on that one, p^t :D [10:48] Cya all tomorrow! [10:51] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [10:51] 0,2 exit all ES @ 867.75 --> - 1.25 [10:51] Reminder: A minimum of 1 trade post each trading day you log in is required to remain in the trade posting room. [10:51] 0,3 Buys ES @ 867.50 [10:52] Also, as long as your in this room posting your trades...you are allowed to LURK in the #EminiFutures room. [10:54] 0,2 exited 1/2 0,4 Long: 868.25 --> + 0.75 [10:56] took a small long sig which is always risky [10:57] 0,2 exited remainder 0,4 Long: 868.50 --> + 1 [11:04] ... [11:10] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 870.00 ť [11:12] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 870.50 -> small size [11:12] * p^t laughs [11:12] :) [11:13] I hope you know what you are doing ;-) [11:13] not at you Kalle, at what Niha said about the order mix up [11:13] :) [11:15] however -- it´s nice we are having fun :) [11:16] 0,2 exited 1/2 0,3 Short: 869.75 --> + 0.75 [11:16] nice Kalle :) [11:18] hehe [11:18] 0,3 Covered 1/2 Short ES Ť 869.00 ť + 1 [11:19] 0,3 Covered remainder Short ES Ť 868.50 ť + 1.5 [11:19] 0,2 exited remainder 0,3 Short: 868.50 --> + 2 [11:20] nice trade, p^t :) [11:20] thanks Kalle, you too [11:21] market slowing down [12:03] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [12:42] 0,3 Entered Long ES Ť 869.50 ť [12:43] scalp [12:44] 0,4 Exited Long ES Ť 869.50 ť 0 [12:47] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 869.25 ť [12:48] they got me coming and going on that [12:48] lol [12:51] ES in triangle [12:52] yep [12:52] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 869.75 ť - 0.5 [12:55] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 870.25 ť [12:55] hope this does not breakout against me .... [12:57] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 870.50 ť - 0.25 [12:57] i dont trust this [12:57] ack, headfake :) [12:58] * p^t shaking head [12:58] think im gonna take a break [13:00] nobody shorting ES? [13:00] i got faked out of my short lojze.......... [13:00] Whasn't this engulfing pattern? [13:15] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [13:38] * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_lunch [13:46] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 867.00 ť [13:50] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 867.00 ť 0 [13:55] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 866.50 ť [13:57] 0,3 Covered 1/2 Short ES Ť 865.50 ť + 1 [13:57] short was setup by a 5 minute bear flag [13:57] 0,3 Covered remainder Short ES Ť 865.00 ť + 1.5 [13:59] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 865.75 ť [13:59] scalp [14:00] ES @ support uptrend line on daily chart. If it drops below 861.50 we might see a "breakdown" [14:00] * Kalle_busy is now known as Kalle [14:00] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 865.25 ť + 0.5 [14:00] wb [14:00] :) [14:01] nice trades [14:01] thanks Kalle, i blew two great shorts in a row, that one was really frustrating, right after i covered it it dropped 3 points......... [14:02] this slow market is throwing my timing off, i am spoiled by the faster markets [14:02] yep [14:02] nice FISH long divergence here [14:02] k [14:03] what time frame ? [14:03] both 333t and 133t [14:03] k [14:03] original entry @ 865.50 [14:04] b2 double bottom pattern on 5m , will have to clear the 866.50 level [14:04] @ resistance line mow....tricky [14:05] that fish is a nice indicator [14:06] 0,3 Entered Long ES Ť 866.00 ť [14:06] has to clear 866.50 to be a valid buy signal [14:10] 0,4 Exited Long ES Ť 866.25 ť + 0.25 [14:10] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 866.25 ť [14:11] NQ long sig @ 1025. resistance lines are key here -- let´s see if they can be broken [14:11] k [14:12] hmmm....133t ES forming short div [14:13] 5m looks like a flag [14:13] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 865.75 ť + 0.5 [14:14] 0,3 Entered Long ES Ť 865.75 ť [14:15] 0,4 Exited Long ES Ť 865.75 ť 0 [14:17] 0,3 Buys ES @ 866.25 -> small size [14:17] man im getting so faked out today [14:17] yes :/ [14:17] im right every time , just not patient enough for this slow market [14:18] lol, thought that´s my very personal problem ;-) [14:18] 333t FISH long div still valid [14:18] k [14:18] 0,2 exited 1/2 0,4 Long: 867.25 --> + 1 [14:19] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 867.50 ť [14:19] scalp [14:19] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 867.50 ť 0 [14:20] NQ lons sig still valid, nice one [14:20] thot we might get a reaction at resistance there, did'nt happen [14:20] yep, my luck [14:21] 0,2 exited remainder 0,4 Long: 867.75 --> + 1.5 [14:21] nice ! [14:21] thanks :) [14:21] my timing is way off today [14:22] somehow i have to slow my mind down to match the speed of this market today [14:23] i think this week has been the trickiest this year [14:26] i took off the two slow days , so that helped me avoid some of that [14:27] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [14:32] 0,4 Entered Short ES Ť 868.00 ť [14:36] hehe, you precisely took a nice divergence [14:36] cool [14:36] lot of sup here, hope it can take it out [14:37] yep, 333t still bullish [14:37] NQ exactly at trendline res [14:39] 0,3 Covered Short ES Ť 868.50 ť - 0.5 [14:40] 0,3 Entered Long ES Ť 868.50 ť [14:41] 0,4 Exited Long ES Ť 867.75 ť - 0.75 [14:42] 0,3 Entered Long ES Ť 868.75 ť [14:44] 0,4 Exited Long ES Ť 869.00 ť + 0.25 [14:44] this is tough today [14:44] mybe you are just a little nervous today ? ;-)) [14:45] well everytime im in a trade and the momentum stalls, i think it is going to reverse on me [14:46] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 868.50 [14:46] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 868.75 [14:46] sorry [14:49] 0,2 exited 1/2 0,3 Short: 868.25 --> + 0.5 [14:49] 20 EMA supp :/ [14:49] yep [14:50] didn´t notice that [14:51] 5m caught between 20 ema and 50 ema [14:51] 0,2 exited remainder 0,3 Short: 869 --> - 0.25 [14:52] small 869.25 s sig [14:53] but i´ll save my profits and call it a day [14:54] * p^t nods [14:54] you traded well today Kalle [14:54] good work ! [14:54] thanks, same. you had a very nice trade this morning [14:54] yeah i got lucky [14:55] enjoy your weekend ! hopefully cya on Monday [14:55] k, you too Kalle :) [14:55] :)) [14:55] gonna take a break also [15:08] * NihabaAshi_lunch is now known as NihabaAshi [15:22] You guys want to know why I don't like to share too much in the public forum... [15:22] ? [15:22] check this out... [15:23] my words were copied word-by-word...to every sentence symbol by a very successful fee-based chat room by a trader I know for fact is a good trader... [15:23] Brandon's new website is http://tfms.webhost4life.com/index.html [15:24] Scroll down and read the section that saids "Why Join A Chatroom" [15:24] Here's the direct link...http://tfms.webhost4life.com/whyjoinchatroom.html [15:25] Those are my exact words I posted as an angry reply to someone at EliteTrader.com [15:25] Oh well...maybe I should have gotten those words "copyrighted" :) [15:26] Geesh...he could have least given me credit or something :) or change the words around a little. [15:28] Hmmm...I'm a little disturbed by that. [15:28] I'm calling it a day. [15:29] Take care all have a nice weekend...a great trading day in the morning...nothing to bite on for me after that. [15:29] Bye. [15:29] * Disconnected Session Close: Fri Apr 11 15:29:20 2003