Session Start: Fri Mar 14 09:25:18 2003 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [09:25] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [09:25] * Topic is 'Trade Journals with daily, weekly or monthly results are posted by traders at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm87 Note: Journals are not required.' [09:25] * Set by X on Fri Mar 14 08:22:08 [09:25] [NihabaAshi] Password changes, trade post script changes and trader profiles are posted ONLY at free discussion board at http://www.thestrategylab.com/Forums.htm [09:25] hi kalle [09:25] Good morning all. [09:25] :) niha.. [09:26] hi Niha [09:26] gm Nihaba, Jazz [09:27] allesim, come va? [09:27] Nihaba u have my "hi" in #EminiFutures.... acording to ur rules.... ;-) [09:28] va bene, grazie, ieri non c'eri e ho perso 200 dollari... [09:29] sorry for off topic [09:29] e normale di perdere poco [09:30] 8,4 >>> 8,2 Michigan University Consumer Sentiment @ 9:45am EST +++ US President Bush speech @ 10am EST 8,4 <<< 1,0 [09:30] folkare talkare aboutare tradeare?? ;-) [09:32] np.. im justare askare.. :-) [09:32] or askingare?? ;-) [09:32] 0,3 Buys ES @ 833.75 [09:34] covered premarket short at 834 +6pts [09:34] I would have gone long also...but I didn't like how the ES wasn't following the NQ. [09:38] 8,4 >>> 8,2 Michigan University Consumer Sentiment @ 9:45am EST +++ US President Bush speech @ 10am EST 8,4 <<< 1,0 [09:39] 0,2 exit all ES @ 830.75 --> - 3 [09:42] 0,3 Buys ES @ 830 [09:42] 0,3 Buys ES @ 829.75 -> small size [09:42] 0,3 Buys ES @ 830 [09:43] 0,3 Buys ES @ 830.50 -> small size 4,0 垂 testing 遙 [09:44] 0,3 Buys ES @ 830.75 [09:44] 0,2 exit all ES @ 831 --> + 1 [09:44] 0,2 exited 1/2 0,4 Long: 830.75 --> + 1 [09:44] HoseB...you can do a test trade on Monday just like I just did for you. [09:44] That's not a real trade I did. [09:44] I just wanted to show you one of the options... [09:45] You can also post paper trades via changing the settings. [09:45] A setting that has the Paper and Testing turned off...' [09:45] Tks... do you need to send me a posting script thingy? [09:45] implies its its a real trade. [09:46] HoseB...nope...I've already allowed you access to the private forum that stores the trade posting script along with installation instructions... [09:46] G'morning everybody [09:46] will post link in a second... [09:46] howdy FFT [09:46] hi FFT :) [09:46] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1032.5 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [09:47] 0,2 exited remainder 0,4 Long: 831.50 --> + 1.75 [09:47] FFT u have my "hi" in #EminiFutures.... acording to ur rules.... ;-) [09:47] HoseB...go to http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm88 [09:47] FFT sorry Nihaba's of course :-) [09:47] when you have the time. [09:48] 0,4 exited all Long: 831 --> + 0.25 [09:48] whoa [09:49] 0,3 Buys ES @ 830.75 -> small size [09:49] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 830.50 [09:50] 0,2 exit all NQ @ 1034.5 --> + 2 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [09:50] 0,2 exit all ES @ 829.50 --> + 1 [09:50] Traders >>> Market rumor is that Bush and Powell will announce at 10 ET that the U.S. is pulling the U.N. resolution, setting the way for the U.S. to go to war alone. [09:50] THANX, Pete [09:51] 0,2 exited 0,4 Long: 830.25 --> - 0.5 [09:51] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 829 [09:51] gonna stay away from this [09:52] me too [09:52] 0,2 exit all ES @ 828.50 --> - 1.5 [09:53] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [09:54] 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1031.5 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [09:54] 8,4 REMINDER > 8,2 US President Bush speech @ 10am EST 8,4 < REMINDER 1,0 [09:56] 0,2 exit all NQ @ 1030.5 --> - 1 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [09:56] Ooops...I need to clear out that "testing" post :) [09:57] 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 828.50 --> - 2 4,0 垂 testing 遙 [09:57] * Looking up HoseB user info... [09:59] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 828.25 [10:00] careful here [10:00] ..Mr President [10:00] ;-) [10:01] 0,2 exit all ES @ 928.75 --> - 99.75 [10:01] 0,3 Buys ES @ 828.75 [10:01] 0,2 exit all ES @ 828.75 --> + 0.25 [10:01] hehe [10:02] Another big losing day for me :D [10:02] lol [10:02] 0,3 covered all Short: 829.5 --> - 1.25 [10:04] I will never dare to trade against jazz... [10:04] 0,2 exit 1/3 ES @ 832 --> + 3.25 [10:06] Jazz....u know.... :)) [10:06] what is it kalle. [10:06] N I C E [10:07] what else ? [10:07] :)) [10:07] :) [10:08] 0,2 exit 1/3 ES @ 836.75 --> + 8 [10:08] .... [10:08] Swinging for the fences, Jazz. [10:10] Nice Jazz...very nice. [10:10] :) [10:12] 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 838 --> + 9.25 [10:12] wow Jazz, what a +++ trade !!! [10:13] thanks pete. [10:13] * Kalle nominates Jazz for the "Trade of the week" award [10:13] 0,3 Buys ES @ 838.5 [10:13] unbelievable [10:14] Kalle...I've already recorded that as the trade of the week :) [10:14] :)) [10:14] lol [10:14] I'll update the website with info this weekend. [10:20] 0,2 exit long ES @ 835.25 --> - 3.25 [10:20] 0,4 reverse and enter short ES @ 835.25 [10:21] brb [10:21] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 835.00 -> small size [10:22] 0,3 Buys ES @ 835.25 [10:24] 0,2 exit 2/3 ES @ 833.75 --> + 1.25 [10:25] What's your target, Nihaba? [10:25] 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 834.00 --> + 1 [10:26] My target is the usual in this situation...the support of the rising 50eMA via the 1min all session chart. [10:26] 0,2 exit all ES @ 834.75 --> - 0.5 [10:26] Sometimes I hold some contracts for an aggressive 2nd profit-target... [10:26] but this pattern is a little unusual and I had no 2nd profit-target. [10:27] Thus, I was trying to manipulate my Covers around that 50eMa. [10:29] Be back in 2mins...need to make some changes to my mIRC. [10:30] 0,2 exit all ES @ 832 --> + 3.25 [10:31] nice FFT [10:31] Thank you. That one day where I had nearly 100% failures on PT reverses helepd a lot. [10:32] Sorry Jazz...I'm have problems with doing a screen capture of your trade... [10:33] without it...I can't make it Trade of the Week :( [10:33] thats ok. [10:33] * HPete_ is now known as HPete [10:34] Niha, do you need a pic of the chat or a pic of a chart ? [10:35] I need a pic of the chat that shows his trade post from start to finish... [10:35] I can't get it for some reason for this room only today...all other rooms work great. [10:35] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 832.75 -> Scalp Trade [10:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 833.25 [10:36] I took a screenshot [10:38] Niha, please rtell me your email address [10:38] intradadaystrategies@yahoo.com [10:39] 0,2 exit all ES @ 833.25 --> 0 [10:39] 0,3 Buys ES @ 833.5. [10:39] If I can get an image...I can then log off and fix the problem :) [10:40] email sent [10:40] 0,2 exit all ES @ 834 --> - 1.25 [10:40] 0,3 Buys ES @ 834 [10:42] 0,2 exit all ES @ 835.50 --> + 1.5 [10:42] long, no short, no long, no [10:43] 0,2 exit 1/3 ES @ 835.25 --> + 835.25 - 833.5. [10:43] 0,3 Buys ES @ 835.25 [10:43] Nother scalpe [10:48] Niha, i got an error message " this user doesn愒 have an yahoo.com account" .... [10:48] 0,3 Buys ES @ 834 [10:49] * Disconnected Session Close: Fri Mar 14 10:49:32 2003 Session Start: Fri Mar 14 11:11:44 2003 Session Ident: #FuturesTrades [11:11] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades [11:11] * Topic is 'Trade Journals with daily, weekly or monthly results are posted by traders at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm87 Note: Journals are not required.' [11:11] * Set by X on Fri Mar 14 07:29:10 [11:11] [NihabaAshi] Password changes, trade post script changes and trader profiles are posted ONLY at free discussion board at http://www.thestrategylab.com/Forums.htm [11:11] 0,3 Buys ES @ 837 [11:12] Thanks for the images. [11:13] [16:48] Niha, i got an error message " this user doesn愒 have an yahoo.com account" .... [11:13] ?? [11:14] Hmmm...maybe I typed the wrong email to you... [11:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 836.5 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [11:14] intradaystrategies@yahoo.com [11:14] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 836 [11:15] lol, yeah -- you gave intradadaystrategies@... to me :)) [11:15] :) [11:15] Woo Hoo, Jazz is with me. Can't lose now. ;-) [11:15] lol [11:15] don't be so sure. [11:16] j/k jazz [11:16] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 836.50 [11:17] 0,2 exit all ES @ 837 --> 0 [11:17] hmmm...i have mixed signals now [11:18] 0,2 exited 0,3 Short: 837.25 --> - 0.75 [11:18] 0,2 exit all ES @ 837.25 --> - 1.25 [11:18] Me too. This thing is nuts today. [11:19] ok, going for a break, see you later. [11:19] 0,2 exit all ES @ 838.25 --> - 1.75 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [11:19] cu, Jazz [11:19] Cya Jazz [11:20] 0,3 Buys ES @ 838.5 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [11:21] guess I惻l close my trading week now [11:21] I think NQ will break 1041 [11:22] :) [11:22] 839.50 is HOD @ ES [11:22] nice call, FFT ;-) [11:25] Thanks Kalle [11:25] Massive move to the upside - hope you all made enough to eat at McDonald's. :D [11:28] 0,2 exit all ES @ 839.75 --> + 1.25 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [11:32] nice [11:34] time to go....have a good weekend everyone [11:34] Cya on MOnday HPete [11:35] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 840.00 [11:35] ok...bye [11:36] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 840 [11:36] I have a high risk play. [11:37] 0,3 Buys ES @ 839.5 4,0 垂 paper 遙 [11:37] 0,2 exit all ES @ 839.50 --> + 0.5 [11:38] 0,2 exit 2/3 ES @ 838.00 --> + 2 [11:38] nice [11:38] oh my ... bad timing ratso [11:38] ha ha [11:38] that愀 usually my part :) [11:39] shoulda gone for coffee [11:40] 0,3 Buys ES @ 837.25 [11:40] I have a profit-target for the remainder via the 3min all session chart 50eMA support. [11:40] currently about 836.18 [11:40] 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 839.00 [11:41] 0,3 OPENs Long on NQ @ 1039.50 [11:42] 0,2 exit all ES @ 837.25 --> 0 [11:44] ES 50eMA support still rising via the 3min all session chart @ 836.20 [11:44] 0,4 CLOSEs Long on NQ @ 1040 0,12 --> 0,3 + 0.5 [11:45] ohmy!! ufuf [11:46] 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 838.75 [11:47] piggy getting nervous again [11:47] 0,4 OPENs Short on NQ @ 1038 [11:48] 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 835.50 --> + 4.5 [11:48] 0,3 CLOSEs Short on NQ @ 1035 0,12 --> 0,3 + 3 [11:49] wtg! Nihaba [11:49] You too Quasar...nice trade for a scalper :) [11:49] thx :-) yup, not bad [11:52] ES is now at my 2nd profit-target (200eMA support) via the 3min all session chart...same profit-target I didn't think it would reach :( [11:53] Had that push down had a little more downside momentum...I would have held a little longer. [11:54] 0,3 Buys ES @ 834.25 [11:55] 0,3 OPENs Long on NQ @ 1035 [11:56] 0,2 exit all ES @ 834.75 --> + 0.5 [11:57] 0,4 CLOSEs Long on NQ @ 1035 0,12 --> 0 [11:57] wohoo [11:58] 0,4 OPENs Short on NQ @ 1034 [11:59] 0,3 CLOSEs Short on NQ @ 1033 0,12 --> 0,3 + 1 [12:03] 0,3 Buys ES @ 833.50 [12:11] 0,2 exit all ES @ 833.50 --> 0 [12:17] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [12:35] have to go. nice WE @ all ! cya on Monday [12:56] I don't know if anybody notice... [12:58] Via intensity...today's downtrend since 1133am est is stronger than yesterday's uptrend. [12:58] Eventhough yesterday had more points in the trend. [12:59] Also, yesterday had more volume to its trend in comparison to today's volume in the downtrend since 1133am est. [13:00] What I mean by intensity (maybe another word should be used)... [13:01] is that the ranges in the individual candlesticks are much wider today on lesser volume. [13:01] What does this implies to me... [13:01] there are a lot of buyers still holding on to their profits from yesterday. [13:02] I don't expect those particular buyers to get nervous unless the ES drops to around the 820.00 price level. [13:03] Now you know what key pivot I have for Monday if that 820.00 level isn't reached today :) [13:04] :-) [13:05] In fact...that number is valid unless the ES can change the pattern via climbing above the 842.25 resistance level. [13:09] folks what is ur Positive/Negative trades ratio? [13:11] im about 80% of Positive trades last months [13:11] ..with my Scalps, of course [13:11] any1? [13:13] 70/30 for 5 years back when, then 25% for one year... stopped counting after that.. [13:13] 25% of what? [13:14] ..Positive trades? [13:14] 25% winners, 75% losers... surprisingly, a "break-even" year thanks to rigorous stop discipline [13:16] oh ic, thx HB... n was is ur trading style within those 70/30 yrs, Scalping as well or intraday swings.... ? [13:16] ERR was = what [13:16] lol what was :-) [13:17] ERR?? don't know that. please explain. Traded mutual funds [13:17] ERROR [13:17] Nanni? (That's Japanese slang for "huh") [13:18] i just wanna say > that WAS is my ERROR... replace it with WHAT [13:19] well NOT THIS >> n was is ur trading style within those 70/30 yrs, Scalping as well or intraday swings.... ? [13:19] BUT THIS >> n what was is ur trading style within those 70/30 yrs, Scalping as well or intraday swings.... ? [13:19] plus get that IS off lol sorry [13:19] n ? [13:20] Do you mean n = and [13:20] yup [13:21] is there a way to log this chat retaining the highlited coloured lines? [13:21] reversal here? [13:22] currently my log is a simple txt file, with no formatting [13:22] Allesim...there isn't a way to do that...I wish. [13:22] Correction...there is but its a little costly. [13:23] IMO one can write some simple code to retrieve it from that ASCII file [13:23] ..only u have to tell mIRC to save it "with special codes" [13:24] prolly it is available somewhere on da web IMO [13:24] You can do what I do...for future education purposes and documentation... [13:25] get a second computer...with a 80G hard drive...then use the program by Camtasia and do a live recording from start to finish of the market. [13:25] It records every thing on your screen. [13:26] Camtasia is at http://www.techsmith.com/products/studio/default.asp [13:26] And they have a 30day free trial or something like that. [13:26] not bad Nihaba... just not so simple to find some text string there or something like... ;-) [13:27] ..or is it possible ?? [13:27] I use Camtasia for documentation purposes (QCharts, mIRC Chat, Broker trade executions) for later review. [13:28] Great for figuring out how your making trade mistakes in realtime :) [13:28] so it is just GRAPHIC INFORMATION right? [13:28] sure :-) im thinking about simply to put my camera right behind my head... :-) [13:28] Yes...just a video recording of everything on your computer screen. [13:28] ok [13:29] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [13:29] It's mainly (Camtasia) used by traders that do seminars or for education purposes. [13:30] I use it mainly for personal reasons and soon will use it for educational purposes. [13:36] whats up guys. [13:37] Hi Jazz [13:37] Quasar... my mutual fund trading gig was likely off the scope of this room [13:39] anyone tried the rafter indicator? [13:45] Jazz are you going to exploit another indicator :) [13:46] yes, I've been using lately some new stuff, some are very usefull. [13:47] Those indicators are designed to be breakeven at best...but Jazz has a way of milking them for a lot more than breakeven :) [13:47] hehe [13:47] Jazz...do a search at ET... [13:48] I remember someone there was exclusively using that indicator. [13:48] I've said it once, there is no leading indicator for ES. [13:48] what's that ET [13:48] i can give u a value of 90% of them with a few-seconds sight on the price chart :-) [13:48] ET = http://www.elitetrader.com [13:48] ok [13:49] They have a search menu in the upper right corner when you go to their website. [13:49] more then indicators, trading is about decision making. [13:49] no need to use some special crazy-mazy line... just to tell me WOW IT IS 5% UP FROM THE OPEN!! ;-))) [13:50] ..or THOSE LAST 3 BARS R CRAZY LONG!! hehe [13:50] Jazz...I agree...its about the decisions of the trader while using the indicator that decides if a trade will be profitable or not. [13:53] for example T&S or Level2 much more usefull IMO but guys, im talking mostly about Scalping... so take my posts very easy, ok? [14:00] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 829 [14:01] We have a new trader in the #EminiFutures room... [14:01] his name is Nykevin... [14:02] Here's a typical screenshot he gave my to update in his trader profile at the discussion forum: [14:02] http://www.thestrategylab.com/NykevinTraderScreen.gif [14:03] If you have not updated your Trader Profiles...please do so soon. [14:03] http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm96 [14:03] 0,2 exit 1/3 ES @ 828 --> + 1 [14:17] got disco.. somehow. [14:41] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [14:46] 6im outta here... cya folks [14:46] * QUASAR is now known as QUASAR_afk [14:50] bye Q.. [14:52] "afk" means what?? [14:53] away from keyboard [14:53] ..or "flying" somewhere around here... :-) [14:53] * QUASAR_afk slaps HoseB around a bit with a large trout [14:54] ;-) [14:54] Nanni? [14:56] * QUASAR_afk slaps HoseB around a bit with a huge Nanni [14:57] 0,3 OPENs Long on NQ @ HoseB [14:57] crap lol [14:57] ur losin' me (not that hard to do) [14:57] Nihaba u know already what is this problem with posting script ?? [14:59] Nihaba (at least) if i slap some1 it gets his Nick as the Price :-/ [14:59] ..seems to me [15:04] 0,4 Shorts ES @ 831.25 [15:07] 0,3 OPENs Long on NQ @ 1032 [15:08] wohooooooo [15:08] 0,2 exit short ES @ 832.75 --> - 1.5 [15:08] 0,3 reverse and enter long ES @ 832.75 [15:08] 0,4 CLOSEs Long on NQ @ 1034 0,12 --> 0,3 + 2 [15:09] ohmy!! piggy strong n fast! hehe [15:09] Nice reversal...sometimes immediately making it back in a single click is almost as good as if there never wasn't a losing trade to start the process :) [15:10] 0,2 exit 2/3 ES @ 835.50 --> + 2.75 [15:10] :-) [15:10] wd! Jazz [15:10] :) [15:10] 3Jazzlife is now known as fast_as_a_shark [15:11] lol [15:12] :-) [15:15] 0,3 OPENs Long on NQ @ 1034.50 [15:16] 0,3 Buys ES @ 833.25 [15:16] 0,4 CLOSEs Long on NQ @ 1035.50 0,12 --> 0,3 + 1 [15:17] 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 833.75 --> + 1 [15:19] nice short setup here [15:21] seems so [15:22] MSFT on EMA50 [15:22] ..below hehe [15:23] 1st target 827 [15:30] tricky stuff, watch out. [15:36] here we go [15:40] ES is trying to setup for a long to end the week [15:42] 0,3 Buys ES @ 831 [15:50] 0,2 exit all ES @ 830.50 --> - 0.5 [15:51] ok guys, have a good weekend. [15:53] This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced. [16:15] Ok...it's over...good trading today I hope for ALL. [16:15] It's pay day and time for a glass of wine and a little relaxation :) [16:16] Have a nice weekend and if anybody has any questions about the Eminis chart patterns this past week... [16:16] please post questions at the discussion forums along with chart examples of what your talking about. [16:16] If not...I'll assume everything is great for ALL. [16:16] Bye and have a nice weekend. [16:16] * Disconnected Session Close: Fri Mar 14 16:16:59 2003