Session Start: Wed Nov 27 05:24:11 2002
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[05:24] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[05:24] * Topic is 'Trade Journals with daily, weekly or monthly results are posted by traders at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm87 Note: Journals are not required.'
[05:24] * Set by X on Tue Nov 26 15:10:22
[05:24] <@X> [NihabaAshi] If you cannot gain access between 9:00am - 4:15pm est via a password change...send password request to intradaystrategies@yahoo.com
[05:24] * X sets mode: +o NihabaAshi
[05:56] <@NihabaAshi> Hi TaoWine...new name ?
[05:56] <@NihabaAshi> :)
[05:56] <TaoWine> Hello NihabaAshi, new name, nope I've always used this one :)
[05:57] <@NihabaAshi> Ok...sorry...I guess I don't remember you or haven't seen you for awhile :)
[05:57] <TaoWine> I'm new here, I'm just getting started on trading futures
[05:58] <TaoWine> waiting for my Datek account to ge transfered to IB, it takes forever
[05:58] <@NihabaAshi> TaoWine...are you also a member at our snail-mail discussion board hosted at ezboard?
[05:59] <TaoWine> figured I'd papertrade until I get it down packed
[05:59] <TaoWine> yes I am
[05:59] <@NihabaAshi> Under what user name?
[05:59] <TaoWine> TaoWine
[05:59] <@NihabaAshi> Ok...great.
[05:59] <@NihabaAshi> Here's the reason why I asked...
[06:00] <@NihabaAshi> We have a problem with many users in this room "unwilling" to give a little back to the room while they use it.
[06:01] <@NihabaAshi> Thus, I'm going to make it "mandatory" that all room users have till the end of next week to post a basic-simple profile of their trading experience, trading style at the snail-mail discussion board.
[06:02] <TaoWine> That's cool, easy enough
[06:02] <@NihabaAshi> I'm currently working on it right now to setup those special forum threads at the discussion boards.
[06:03] <TaoWine> I gotta reboot, every time I load IE, it stops dead :( 
[06:04] <@NihabaAshi> What version?
[06:04] <@NihabaAshi> Are you also running any firewall programs in the background like ZoneAlarm or Norton...
[06:05] <TaoWine> I think it's 6.0X
[06:05] <TaoWine> I didn't have a problem until I loaded e-signal
[06:05] <@NihabaAshi> they slow down IE and many trading chart programs.
[06:05] <@NihabaAshi> Slower split second trade executions.
[06:06] <@NihabaAshi> Not important unless the market is moving fast.
[06:09] <TaoWine> BBL, I gotta find hy hammerto fix thid thing ;)
[06:09] <TaoWine> and I gotta learn how to spell too :)
[06:22] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[07:34] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[08:46] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[09:13] <sempai> gm everyone
[09:25] <szubaark> Mich Sentiment 9:45 then 3 other reports@10
[09:25] * Paul_away is now known as Paul
[09:25] <Paul> gm aal
[09:26] <Paul> all
[09:26] <dude> hi
[09:26] <szubaark> gm
[09:31] <Jonny> 0,3 Buys ES @ 921 
[09:34] <HPete> gm all
[09:35] <Paul> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 921.75 
[09:36] <szubaark> nice netry Paul
[09:36] <Jonny> 0,2 exit all ES @ 921.25 --> + 0.25 
[09:36] <sempai> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 921.25 
[09:37] <Paul> thanx szu
[09:37] <dude> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 920.75 
[09:37] <Paul> 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 921.5 
[09:40] * Disconnected
Session Close: Wed Nov 27 09:40:16 2002

Session Start: Wed Nov 27 09:40:49 2002
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[09:40] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[09:40] * Topic is 'Trade Journals with daily, weekly or monthly results are posted by traders at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm87 Note: Journals are not required.'
[09:40] * Set by X on Tue Nov 26 16:09:11
[09:40] <@X> [NihabaAshi] If you cannot gain access between 9:00am - 4:15pm est via a password change...send password request to intradaystrategies@yahoo.com
[09:40] * X sets mode: +o NihabaAshi
[09:40] <Paul> 0,2 stop hit ES @ 921.5 --> + 0.25 
[09:41] <Paul> i knew they were gunning just for my stop ;)
[09:41] <dude> 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 921.5 --> - 0.75 
[09:41] <Paul> darn it still looks like a good short to me
[09:42] <sempai> 0,2 exit all ES @ 922.25 --> - 1 
[09:42] <Paul> 0,6 open limit order to enter short ES @ 922.25 
[09:43] <Paul> 0,4 limit order to enter short filled ES @ 922.25 
[09:44] <Trad2k> LONG 922.75 ES
[09:44] <Paul> naz is lagging right now
[09:44] <Trad2k> Stop at 921.75
[09:45] <bali2> 0,4 Shorts NQ @ 1110.0 
[09:45] <Trad2k> Place at 924 Sell
[09:47] <sempai> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 922.25 
[09:48] <Trad2k> Exit All ES 921.75 --> -1
[09:48] <dude> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 921.75 
[09:48] <szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 921.50 
[09:48] <Paul> let's get'em gang!
[09:48] <bali2> 0,2 exit all NQ @ 1108 --> + 2 
[09:49] <Paul> 0,2 stop hit ES @ 921.5 --> + 0.75 
[09:49] <dude> 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 922.25 --> - 0.5 
[09:49] <bali2> 0,3 Buys NQ @ 1111 
[09:50] <@NihabaAshi> Trad2K...I emailed you the trade post script installation instructions...when you have time...please install it...takes only a minute or two.
[09:50] <Paul> 0,6 open limit order to enter short ES @ 924.25 
[09:51] <Trad2k> i have got
[09:52] <Paul> this moving up on very very light vol
[09:53] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 923.50 
[09:53] <Paul> darn missed my order by a tick
[09:55] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 922.75 --> + 0.75 
[09:55] <szubaark> 0,2 exit all ES @ 923 --> - 1.5 
[09:55] <Paul> 0,6 cancelled all open limit orders 
[09:58] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[09:58] * Trad2k Hello
[09:58] <Trad2k> sorry
[09:59] <Paul> hi trad
[09:59] <Trad2k> Hi Paul
[10:00] <sempai> 0,2 exit all ES @ 923.75 --> - 1.5 
[10:00] <bali2> 0,2 exit all NQ @ 1113 --> + 2 
[10:01] <Paul> 0,6 open limit order to enter short ES @ 927.5 
[10:02] <Paul> 0,4 limit order to enter short filled ES @ 927.5 
[10:07] <JPB> 0,3 Buys ES @ 28 
[10:07] <@NihabaAshi> 0,3 Buys ES @ 929.50 -> Scalp Trade 
[10:07] <JPB> 0,2 exit 1/2 ES @ 29.5 --> + 1.5 
[10:08] <@NihabaAshi> 0,2 exit all ES @ 930.00 --> + 0.5 
[10:08] <JPB> 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 30 --> + 2 
[10:09] <Jonny> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 929.50 
[10:11] <dude> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 928.25 
[10:12] <dude> please go down...
[10:13] <JPB> it should, since you asked nicely :)
[10:14] <dude> that's what I was hoping for
[10:15] <Jonny> 0,2 exit all ES @ 927 --> + 2.5 
[10:15] <Paul> 0,2 exit all ES @ 927. --> + 0.5 
[10:15] <Jonny> 0,3 Buys ES @ 928 
[10:15] <dude> 0,2 exit remainder ES @ 927.75 --> + 0.5 
[10:16] <Jonny> I shouldve just reversed @ 27
[10:16] <Paul> near perfect play jonny!
[10:16] <Jonny> Bonds are dumping
[10:16] <Jonny> hopefully the ES follows
[10:17] <Paul> 0,6 open limit order to enter short ES @ 929. 
[10:18] <Paul> 0,4 limit order to enter short filled ES @ 929. 
[10:18] <Paul> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 929.5 -> Add 
[10:19] <Jonny> 0,2 exit all ES @ 931 --> + 3 
[10:19] <HPete> nice trade Jonny :)
[10:20] <Trad2k> good trade Jonny
[10:20] <Jonny> ty
[10:20] <Jonny> think its another trend day for market
[10:20] <Jonny> shouldve just kept the long
[10:21] <szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 933 
[10:22] <Trad2k> too early :)
[10:23] <szubaark> Paul, holding your Shorts?
[10:24] <Paul> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 934. -> Add 
[10:24] <Paul> yes
[10:24] <szubaark> you still bearish?
[10:25] <Paul> yes, the spread between the nq and es didn't increase in this rise, the nq usually leads
[10:26] <Paul> nq stopping at last week's high
[10:28] <szubaark> sucker is strong
[10:28] <Trad2k> Spread between ES and NQ rise then ES rise becouse of NQ  >  ES
[10:28] <@NihabaAshi> I missed a good Long position around 10:15am est
[10:29] <Jonny> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 933 
[10:29] <@NihabaAshi> Can only sit and watch...too risky for any Long positions at this level and too risky too Short.
[10:31] <Jonny> 0,2 exit all ES @ 932.75 --> + 0.25 
[10:31] <Jonny> Im joining Niha on sidelines
[10:34] <HPete> 0,3 Buys ES @ 932.75 
[10:36] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 934 --> + 1.25 
[10:41] <szubaark> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 931.75 
[10:42] <szubaark> chased it
[10:46] <kaa> hi all
[10:47] <HPete> hi kaa :)
[10:49] <Trad2k> hi kaa
[10:50] <Paul> hi kaa
[10:51] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 933.25 
[10:52] <Paul> ok HP!  we need the help! :)
[10:56] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 932.50 --> + 0.75 
[10:56] <HPete> lol
[10:58] <Paul> big help you are! :)
[11:00] <szubaark> what now? 2pt Range for 2 hours?
[11:01] <HPete> hope not
[11:04] <szubaark> piggie still looks like wants higher
[11:10] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[11:12] <szubaark> we probobly arent going nowhere til big boys return from lunch
[11:13] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 934.50 
[11:16] <Paul> 0,6 exit stop set ES @ 937.75 
[11:17] <Paul> if it breaks above 93750 they'll probably be some big buy stops
[11:17] <Paul> don't think it'll get there, but as dennis miller says, that's just my opinion i could be wrong
[11:20] <JPB> I would think something has to give soon one way or the other
[11:20] <szubaark> bastids pushing this higher on no volume
[11:21] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 935.25 --> - 0.75 
[11:21] <JPB> they might be gunning that 37.5
[11:21] <Paul> if they do, i think it could run much higher
[11:22] <Paul> if it goes below 93100, i'll lower my stop to there
[11:23] <@NihabaAshi> How many traders in here would like to know or think its a good idea to see a screenshot of what other traders see on their computer screen...
[11:24] <JPB> that would be nice Niha
[11:24] <@NihabaAshi> basic info about the trader: Parttime or Fulltime trader, country location, and basic trading style (scalper, range trader, trend trader).
[11:24] <@NihabaAshi> ?
[11:25] <@NihabaAshi> So far I've gotten 3 emails in the past week by those wanting such or thinking its a cool thing to have posted at my website or discussion forum.
[11:25] <szubaark> sounds good...where do we post it
[11:25] <Paul> that sounds fine
[11:25] <kaa> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 934.50 
[11:27] <@NihabaAshi> First...everybody needs to download the free image capture program at http://www.xnview.com or use any image capture program that makes .gif files 
[11:27] <@NihabaAshi> Then send me an image of your favorite screen setup of what's typically on your charts...
[11:27] <@NihabaAshi> no .bmp files nor .jpg files
[11:28] <@NihabaAshi> because they are too large for email attachments.
[11:28] <@NihabaAshi> Email it to me at intradaystrategies@yahoo.com
[11:28] <@NihabaAshi> I'm going to give a deadline of next Friday.
[11:29] <JPB> might include computer setup, too, Niha
[11:29] <@NihabaAshi> In fact...its' going to become a requirment for those that wants to use this room.
[11:29] <@NihabaAshi> Yes...
[11:29] <HPete> 0,3 Buys ES @ 934.75 
[11:29] <@NihabaAshi> I'm working on a basic webpage right now where all this info will be posted.
[11:30] <@NihabaAshi> I'll post the link in here today or soon after with my profile and everybody will have an example of what they need to send me.
[11:30] <szubaark> bastids going for that 937.50
[11:31] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 935.50 --> + 0.75 
[11:32] <JPB> nq not playing along, though
[11:32] <@NihabaAshi> So far...I need the .gif file on screen shot of favorite chart, country location, trading experience and basic explaination of trading style, favorite market quote.
[11:32] <Paul> right Jp, that's what keeping me in this position
[11:33] <JPB> no stops left in the nq to gun for
[11:34] <Paul> i just shorted intc, if techs weaken we could sell down a little anyway
[11:34] <szubaark> well, NQ not relly moving anywhere
[11:35] <JPB> there can't be many nervous shorts left in NQ, cleaned out the shorts to 45 earlier.
[11:36] * HPete is now known as HPete_away
[11:38] <szubaark> yes..that spike was rape on shorts
[11:38] <kaa> 0,2 exit ES @ 934.50 --> 0 
[11:39] <kaa> wat aday
[11:40] <szubaark> yup..they holding the market up til whenever
[11:41] <Paul> the only thing i don't like is being short going into the lunch hour
[11:41] <JPB> got beige book at noon, too.
[11:42] <@NihabaAshi> be right back...
[11:43] * Disconnected
Session Close: Wed Nov 27 11:43:02 2002

Session Start: Wed Nov 27 13:41:55 2002
Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
[13:41] * Now talking in #FuturesTrades
[13:41] * Topic is 'Trade Journals with daily, weekly or monthly results are posted by traders at http://pub90.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabfrm87 Note: Journals are not required.'
[13:41] * Set by X on Tue Nov 26 15:10:22
[13:41] <@X> [NihabaAshi] If you cannot gain access between 9:00am - 4:15pm est via a password change...send password request to intradaystrategies@yahoo.com
[13:41] * X sets mode: +o NihabaAshi
[13:45] <szubaark> Volume so low, i wonder whos buying this..LOL
[13:46] <Paul> shhhhh, you'll wake everybody up!
[13:47] <szubaark> Paul..its on this air..hope it drops HARD
[13:47] <szubaark> thin
[13:47] <szubaark> me and u still holding Shorts!  Im still Short from@931.75
[13:49] <Paul> yea, i have it 929 and 934
[13:49] <Paul> so about the same as you
[13:50] <Paul> one way or another i'm out of this today
[13:51] <szubaark> me too..will just take my Loss end of day and learn from it
[13:52] <Paul> frankly, i'm beginning to wonder whether there's enough volume to move this in any direction this afternoon
[13:54] <Paul> this could be it, going to my 941 stop
[14:07] * HPete_away is now known as HPete
[14:33] <Paul> wake up szu, we're moving!
[14:35] <szubaark> Paul..Ill need a drop to 925 to be profitable for day!
[14:35] <szubaark> Im SHort 5 contracts Acerage 932
[14:35] <szubaark> average
[14:36] <Paul> whoops
[14:36] <Paul> well if we can trade below 933 in the es and 1122 in the nq, we could see a sizeable sell off
[14:46] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[14:57] <szubaark> if this thing doesnt selloff..nobodys getting any presents from me for christmas
[14:59] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 939 
[14:59] <szubaark> Pete! help us out
[15:00] <szubaark> Im doing MAJOR improvemnts to my trading..ive been slacking off last 2 months(ignoring Stops, Profits etc)
[15:00] <szubaark> and it shows in my account..
[15:01] <Paul> discipline is so important to successful trading
[15:02] <szubaark> Paul..Ive been doing so good trading with no discipline last year or so that i ignored my Stops..etc..but now market is teaching me a lesson
[15:02] <Paul> i really shouldn't have even traded today, knowing the volume would be light
[15:02] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 938.75 --> + 0.25 
[15:03] <HPete> it is in fact
[15:04] <szubaark> 0,2 exit all ES @ 939.50 --> - 7.75 
[15:04] <szubaark> I traded like a frikin amateur today
[15:05] <HPete> uhhhh...szu
[15:06] <szubaark> Total 2 Trades    2 Losers  Total=-10 ES points I dont know what happened..going to get some sleep
[15:06] <Paul> szu, where are you located?
[15:07] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 939.25 
[15:08] <Paul> you've been playing this well HP
[15:09] * JPB_away is now known as JPB
[15:10] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 938 --> + 1.25 
[15:10] <HPete> I've been having a long rest :)
[15:11] <HPete> this market needs 100% attention...or no participation
[15:15] <szubaark> Michigan
[15:16] <Paul> oh ok, when you said get sleep i was thinking you were in europe
[15:17] <Paul> 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 939.75 
[15:17] <szubaark> I just suck on strong trending days (really need fixed Stops)
[15:17] <Paul> yea, if i had left my original 93750 stop in i would have been shorting at 940 and 939 like hp
[15:20] <JPB> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 38 -> small size 
[15:20] <szubaark> Pual..they wouldve stopped you out those three times anyways..same thing
[15:20] <Paul> yea JP, we need the help! :)
[15:21] <szubaark> Lesson ive learned today is DONT trade with these crooks on low volume holiday days
[15:21] <Paul> if the nq can just get below 1122
[15:21] <Paul> i know better and i still did it, i hate when that happens! :)
[15:22] <JPB> 0,2 exit all ES @ 37.25 --> + 0.75 
[15:22] <JPB> wi just don't trust this thing
[15:22] <JPB> wi=I
[15:22] <Paul> aw com'on JP, stay with us :)
[15:22] <JPB> rats, there goes nq
[15:22] <HPete> safe good job JPB
[15:23] <Paul> no, take stupid risks like me
[15:23] <Paul> :)
[15:23] <JPB> I chased the entry, so I was nervous.  I wanted 940
[15:23] <JPB> I'll try to help you out again in a minute, paul :)
[15:24] <Paul> 0,6 exit stop lowered ES @ 938.75 
[15:25] <Paul> ok, i'm waiting, do it before 938.75!
[15:26] <JPB> I may sell them to you.
[15:27] <JPB> yeesh. still no volume either way, we may not break this range at all.
[15:28] <Paul> yes, i mentioned that earlier, not enough vol to move it much in either direction
[15:28] <Paul> msft keeps failing but sox keeping the nq up
[15:29] <JPB> big guys planning on running it up on friday, so they're not taking profits today?
[15:31] <Paul> pulled my 93875 stop temporarily
[15:33] <JPB> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 39 
[15:33] <JPB> paper trade
[15:34] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 939.25 
[15:36] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 939.50 --> - 0.25 
[15:36] <Paul> 0,6 exit stop raised ES @ 940.25 
[15:40] <JPB> is 1 point so much to ask?
[15:41] <HPete> the market asks your patience in return :)
[15:42] <Paul> i think they're going to get me this time up
[15:42] <Paul> gone
[15:42] <JPB> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 39.75 -> Add 
[15:42] <JPB> still paper
[15:42] <Paul> 0,2 exit all ES @ 940.25 --> - 17.5 
[15:42] <Paul> that's not right
[15:43] <Paul> i was in at an average 932+
[15:43] <JPB> 0,2 exit all ES @ 40.7 --> - 2.65 
[15:44] <JPB> 0,2 exit all ES @ 40.75 --> - 1.75 
[15:44] <JPB> exit again and see if it counts it from your last entry, paul
[15:46] <HPete> 0,4 Shorts ES @ 940.75 
[15:49] <HPete> 0,2 exit all ES @ 940.25 --> + 0.5 
[15:50] <HPete> too quickly out this time
[15:50] <kaa> a bit longer
[15:51] <Paul> actually my stop pretty much came at the top
[15:51] <Paul> for now
[15:52] <kaa> it was R2
[15:52] <kaa> 40.50
[15:52] <Paul> well i'm calling it a week, lost the money i made on the first two days of the week
[15:53] <Paul> staying out on fri for sure
[15:58] <HPete> that's enough for today...c ya all, have a nice holiday :)
[15:58] <kaa> cu pete
[15:58] <HPete> bye kaa
[15:58] <@X> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position...strictly enforced.
[16:00] <kaa> bye everyone
[16:22] * Disconnected
Session Close: Wed Nov 27 16:22:49 2002