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Dec 22nd Thurs 2005 Trade Log

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Session Start: Thu Dec 22 09:29:31 2005Session Ident: #futurestrades

* Now talking in #futurestrades 09:29

<X> [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab

* Retrieving #futurestrades modes... 09:32

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 686.60 -> small size

Trade error...looking to dump this. 09:34

<les> Long ER2 @ 687.1 09:35

ugh

<NihabaAshi> Les...that was a weird reversal :( 09:36

<les> yup

Exited all ER2 Long @ 686.1 --> - 1

boy am i pissed!

<NihabaAshi> Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 685.90 --> + 0.7 09:37

<les> how come they like u and not me niha?

<GoodMood> how come that Niha makes money even with trade errors .... ? 09:38

<NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 686.30 --> + 0.3

<les> i dont want t talk about it GM 09:39

<GoodMood> :)

<eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1272.50

<NihabaAshi> GoodMood...I average about 12 lucky (profitable) trades per month :)

That was number 8 for this month...got 4 more to go :)

<les> Shorts ER2 @ 685.2

<GoodMood> how many un-lucky trades ? 09:40

<les> swine :)

<NihabaAshi> Trade errors that result as losses...about 6 per month.

<les> my turn now 09:41

also a trade error

bet it scews me anyway

they like niha far too much

<NihabaAshi> I'm not sure why my Trade Errors (profitable) out number my Trade Errors (losers). 09:42

<GoodMood> and what about the trade result ?

<NihabaAshi> You mean as in points ??? 09:43

<GoodMood> yes

<NihabaAshi> The same TE-Profits out number TE-Losers

<GoodMood> what do you think: luck ? 09:44

<NihabaAshi> Well only hint I have is that when I enter a trade by mistake...usually it was "almost" a valid trade signal.

In comparison, the losers tend to be from a very bad trade mistake as in "not even close" to the trading plan. 09:45

<GoodMood> ok

<les> exit stop lowered ER2 @ 685.1 09:46

<eminitrader> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1271 --> + 1.5

<les> Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 685.1 --> + 0.1 09:47

not as lucky as some around here

<NihabaAshi> Currently I have a NEUTRAL trend bias.

<PapaJon> yes.. i can see why niha... :) 09:49

<NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 685.30 -> small size 09:50

<eminitrader> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1272.25 --> + 0.25 09:52

<NihabaAshi> exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 685.30

Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 685.30 --> 0 09:54

Reminder: 10am est Leading Indicators Report 09:55

Volatility in EuroFX EC has died just a few minutes before the 10am est numbers. 09:59

<danshirley> U.S. NOV. LEADING ECONOMIC INDICATORS UP 0.5% 10:00

7 OUT OF 10 U.S. LEADING INDICATORS RISE IN NOV.

The consensus forecast of Wall Street economists had been for growth of 0.4% in November 10:01

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 685.00 -> Swing / Position Trade

Shorts ER2 @ 685.60 -> Add 10:06

This is where I should have open this swing/position trade so I decided to use it as an ADD. 10:07

<X> #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.

<pat255> oh my Niha vn read ...geez still thinking on the L side .. 10:08

<NihabaAshi> Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 684.00 --> + 1.6

exit stop lowered ER2 @ 684.90 10:09

<pat255> niha u got to post this setup if u get a chance ...vn setup 10:10

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1271.50

<NihabaAshi> I still have a NEUTRAL trend bias.

<eminitrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1271 --> - 0.5 10:11

<NihabaAshi> Key Economic Report Alert -> 1030am est Natural GAS Report <--- If volatility appears between 1015am - 11am est...be prepared to exploit such. 10:16

<szubaark_> Long ES @ 1270.75 10:25

<eminitrader> morn szu ...welcome to the wonderful world of ES 10:27

<danshirley> NATURAL GAS IN STORAGE DOWN 162 BCF IN LATEST WEEK: DOE 10:31

Shorts YM @ 10886 «« paper »»

<les> Shorts ER2 @ 682.9

<szubaark_> just trying something different 10:32

<eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1270.75

<GoodMood> Long YM @ 10886 10:33

<eminitrader> u'll love the es szu..good luck :)) 10:34

<NihabaAshi> Anybody that wants to LISTEN to CNBC but not watch it...here's their "audio only" link...

http://astream.net/live/cnbc/cnbc2.asx

<pat255> thks niha 10:35

<GoodMood> thx 10:36

<eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1271 --> - 0.25

thats cnbc europe niha not the us edition 10:37

<TLTrader> Crude near it's LOD, sometimes thats positive for equities 10:38

<NihabaAshi> It's the same and I'm not sure why they call it the Europe edition.

<eminitrader> oh..ok

<NihabaAshi> When I turn on my TV and watch the U.S. CNBC...the radio is about 7 secs delay for the exact same content. 10:39

<eminitrader> k ..didn't try that

<NihabaAshi> However, I haven't listen to it during the overnight trading session to see if there's a difference.

Maybe during the overnight they talk more about Europe and Asia markets while in the U.S. edition they don't...not sure. 10:40

<eminitrader> thats good though for ot traders

ot=overnight 10:41

<GoodMood> Exited all YM Long @ 10886 --> 0 10:43

<les> Covered all ER2 Short @ 682.7 --> + 0.2

<danshirley> .. 10:48

<NihabaAshi> Be back later...will post late trade if trailing stop is hit...if I forget to post it doesn't imply I'm still Short...trailing stop at 684.90 for a +0.10 profit on my remainders. 10:53

* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away 10:54

<szubaark_> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1071.75 --> - 199

huh?

Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1271.75 --> + 1 10:55

exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1270.75

<joereal> Long ES @ 1272.00 «« paper »» 10:56

<szubaark_> emini the nice thing about ES is it will sit in One place for frikin hours because so many people on the bid/ask 10:58

<pat255> yeah blessing in some ways u dont lose money in a hurry like in er..lol

<szubaark_> or that Euro heheh 11:00

<danshirley> Shorts YM @ 10901 «« paper »»

<eminitrader> lol

specially on days like these u can easily come out of a losing trade with a very small loss 11:02

<danshirley> Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10894 --> + 7 «« paper »» 11:05

Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10901 --> 0 «« paper »» 11:08

<codehead> ENMD chart bounced at April low, trying to get better 11:10

<danshirley> Shorts YM @ 10904 «« paper »» 11:15

<joereal> Exited all ES Long @ 1273.00 --> + 1 «« paper »» 11:18

<X> #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. 11:19

<TLTrader> Long YM @ 10911 11:30

* NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi 11:34

<NihabaAshi> Late post... 11:35

Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 684.90 --> + 0.1

eminitrader...I'm watching U.S. CNBC on TV and listening to the Europe CNBC...

There is a difference :)

Europe CNBC spends more time talking about Europes markets (Euro, DAX, CAC40 and such) along with all the normal U.S. stuff. 11:36

Looks like they use the U.S. CNBC for the first hour or so or during key economic reports being released in the U.S. and then go back to the Europe info. 11:37

I prefer it because I monitor the DAX, CAC40, FTSE100, EuroFX and such. 11:38

FTSE100 at another all time closing high.

<danshirley> Covered all YM Short @ 10904 --> 0 «« paper »» 11:44

* danshirley is now known as dan_away

<eminitrader> thx for the info niha 12:00

<TLTrader> Exited all YM Long @ 10899 --> - 12 12:03

<GoodMood> hello ? 12:12

do you read this ?

i somehow got disconnected

and I don't get any sign that I was disconnected ... :( 12:13

<WannaBeBOS> read you loud and clear 12:15

<GoodMood> thx

<X> #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. 12:28

<TLTrader> Shorts YM @ 10893 -> small size 12:35

Covered all YM Short @ 10890 --> + 3 12:39

was hoping ro 10880

for

<togglex> long er2 684.0 13:32

delayed from a few mins ago

close long er2 684.5 +0.5 13:33

<pat255> nice toggle 13:34

<togglex> thanks :)

<X> #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. 13:40

<szubaark_> Exited all ES Long @ 1273.75 --> + 3 13:42

* dan_away is now known as danshirley 13:44

<TLTrader> Shorts YM @ 10923 -> small size 14:13

Covered all YM Short @ 10920 --> + 3 14:19

Long YM @ 10912 -> small size 14:26

scalp

Exited all YM Long @ 10919 --> + 7 14:32

Shorts YM @ 10912 14:46

Covered all YM Short @ 10917 --> - 5 14:50

<X> #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. 14:52

<NihabaAshi> To those that aren't going to be here tomorrow... 15:52

Have a merry christmas and safe holidays. 15:53

I'll be logged in and will not trade if I can't get the remainder of my xmas shopping done tonight.

Hopefully I can trade tomorrow morning. 15:54

* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away

<X> #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced. 16:04

<codehead> just trading single stock futres past two days--OSIP and NEM did the best 16:07

* DisconnectedSession Close: Thu Dec 22 16:53:03 2005 16:52

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	Session Start: Thu Dec 22 09:29:31 2005Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now	talking in #futurestrades	09:29
<X>	[NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab
* Retrieving	#futurestrades modes...	09:32
<NihabaAshi>	Shorts ER2 @ 686.60 -> small size
	Trade error...looking to dump this.	09:34
<les>	Long ER2 @ 687.1	09:35
	ugh
<NihabaAshi>	Les...that was a weird reversal :(	09:36
<les>	yup
	Exited all ER2 Long @ 686.1 --> - 1
	boy am i pissed!
<NihabaAshi>	Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 685.90 --> + 0.7	09:37
<les>	how come they like u and not me niha?
<GoodMood>	how come that Niha makes money even with trade errors .... ?	09:38
<NihabaAshi>	Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 686.30 --> + 0.3
<les>	i dont want t talk about it GM	09:39
<GoodMood>	:)
<eminitrader>	Shorts ES @ 1272.50
<NihabaAshi>	GoodMood...I average about 12 lucky (profitable) trades per month :)
	That was number 8 for this month...got 4 more to go :)
<les>	Shorts ER2 @ 685.2
<GoodMood>	how many un-lucky trades ?	09:40
<les>	swine :)
<NihabaAshi>	Trade errors that result as losses...about 6 per month.
<les>	my turn now	09:41
	also a trade error
	bet it scews me anyway
	they like niha far too much
<NihabaAshi>	I'm not sure why my Trade Errors (profitable) out number my Trade Errors (losers).	09:42
<GoodMood>	and what about the trade result ?
<NihabaAshi>	You mean as in points ???	09:43
<GoodMood>	yes
<NihabaAshi>	The same TE-Profits out number TE-Losers
<GoodMood>	what do you think: luck ?	09:44
<NihabaAshi>	Well only hint I have is that when I enter a trade by mistake...usually it was "almost" a valid trade signal.
	In comparison, the losers tend to be from a very bad trade mistake as in "not even close" to the trading plan.	09:45
<GoodMood>	ok
<les>	exit stop lowered ER2 @ 685.1	09:46
<eminitrader>	Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1271 --> + 1.5
<les>	Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 685.1 --> + 0.1	09:47
	not as lucky as some around here
<NihabaAshi>	Currently I have a NEUTRAL trend bias.
<PapaJon>	yes.. i can see why niha... :)	09:49
<NihabaAshi>	Long ER2 @ 685.30 -> small size	09:50
<eminitrader>	Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1272.25 --> + 0.25	09:52
<NihabaAshi>	exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 685.30
	Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 685.30 --> 0	09:54
	Reminder: 10am est Leading Indicators Report	09:55
	Volatility in EuroFX EC has died just a few minutes before the 10am est numbers.	09:59
<danshirley>	U.S. NOV. LEADING ECONOMIC INDICATORS UP 0.5%	10:00
	7 OUT OF 10 U.S. LEADING INDICATORS RISE IN NOV.
	The consensus forecast of Wall Street economists had been for growth of 0.4% in November	10:01
<NihabaAshi>	Shorts ER2 @ 685.00 -> Swing / Position Trade
	Shorts ER2 @ 685.60 -> Add	10:06
	This is where I should have open this swing/position trade so I decided to use it as an ADD.	10:07
<X>	#FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.
<pat255>	oh my Niha vn read ...geez still thinking on the L side ..	10:08
<NihabaAshi>	Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 684.00 --> + 1.6
	exit stop lowered ER2 @ 684.90	10:09
<pat255>	niha u got to post this setup if u get a chance ...vn setup	10:10
<eminitrader>	Long ES @ 1271.50
<NihabaAshi>	I still have a NEUTRAL trend bias.
<eminitrader>	Exited all ES Long @ 1271 --> - 0.5	10:11
<NihabaAshi>	Key Economic Report Alert -> 1030am est Natural GAS Report <--- If volatility appears between 1015am - 11am est...be prepared to exploit such.	10:16
<szubaark_>	Long ES @ 1270.75	10:25
<eminitrader>	morn szu ...welcome to the wonderful world of ES	10:27
<danshirley>	NATURAL GAS IN STORAGE DOWN 162 BCF IN LATEST WEEK: DOE	10:31
	Shorts YM @ 10886 «« paper »»
<les>	Shorts ER2 @ 682.9
<szubaark_>	just trying something different	10:32
<eminitrader>	Shorts ES @ 1270.75
<GoodMood>	Long YM @ 10886	10:33
<eminitrader>	u'll love the es szu..good luck :))	10:34
<NihabaAshi>	Anybody that wants to LISTEN to CNBC but not watch it...here's their "audio only" link...
	http://astream.net/live/cnbc/cnbc2.asx
<pat255>	thks niha	10:35
<GoodMood>	thx	10:36
<eminitrader>	Covered all ES Short @ 1271 --> - 0.25
	thats cnbc europe niha not the us edition	10:37
<TLTrader>	Crude near it's LOD, sometimes thats positive for equities	10:38
<NihabaAshi>	It's the same and I'm not sure why they call it the Europe edition.
<eminitrader>	oh..ok
<NihabaAshi>	When I turn on my TV and watch the U.S. CNBC...the radio is about 7 secs delay for the exact same content.	10:39
<eminitrader>	k ..didn't try that
<NihabaAshi>	However, I haven't listen to it during the overnight trading session to see if there's a difference.
	Maybe during the overnight they talk more about Europe and Asia markets while in the U.S. edition they don't...not sure.	10:40
<eminitrader>	thats good though for ot traders
	ot=overnight	10:41
<GoodMood>	Exited all YM Long @ 10886 --> 0	10:43
<les>	Covered all ER2 Short @ 682.7 --> + 0.2
<danshirley>	..	10:48
<NihabaAshi>	Be back later...will post late trade if trailing stop is hit...if I forget to post it doesn't imply I'm still Short...trailing stop at 684.90 for a +0.10 profit on my remainders.	10:53
* NihabaAshi	is now known as NihabaAshi_away	10:54
<szubaark_>	Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1071.75 --> - 199
	huh?
	Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1271.75 --> + 1	10:55
	exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1270.75
<joereal>	Long ES @ 1272.00 «« paper »»	10:56
<szubaark_>	emini the nice thing about ES is it will sit in One place for frikin hours because so many people on the bid/ask	10:58
<pat255>	yeah blessing in some ways u dont lose money in a hurry like in er..lol
<szubaark_>	or that Euro heheh	11:00
<danshirley>	Shorts YM @ 10901 «« paper »»
<eminitrader>	lol
	specially on days like these u can easily come out of a losing trade with a very small loss	11:02
<danshirley>	Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10894 --> + 7 «« paper »»	11:05
	Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10901 --> 0 «« paper »»	11:08
<codehead>	ENMD chart bounced at April low, trying to get better	11:10
<danshirley>	Shorts YM @ 10904 «« paper »»	11:15
<joereal>	Exited all ES Long @ 1273.00 --> + 1 «« paper »»	11:18
<X>	#FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.	11:19
<TLTrader>	Long YM @ 10911	11:30
* NihabaAshi_away	is now known as NihabaAshi	11:34
<NihabaAshi>	Late post...	11:35
	Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 684.90 --> + 0.1
	eminitrader...I'm watching U.S. CNBC on TV and listening to the Europe CNBC...
	There is a difference :)
	Europe CNBC spends more time talking about Europes markets (Euro, DAX, CAC40 and such) along with all the normal U.S. stuff.	11:36
	Looks like they use the U.S. CNBC for the first hour or so or during key economic reports being released in the U.S. and then go back to the Europe info.	11:37
	I prefer it because I monitor the DAX, CAC40, FTSE100, EuroFX and such.	11:38
	FTSE100 at another all time closing high.
<danshirley>	Covered all YM Short @ 10904 --> 0 «« paper »»	11:44
* danshirley	is now known as dan_away
<eminitrader>	thx for the info niha	12:00
<TLTrader>	Exited all YM Long @ 10899 --> - 12	12:03
<GoodMood>	hello ?	12:12
	do you read this ?
	i somehow got disconnected
	and I don't get any sign that I was disconnected ... :(	12:13
<WannaBeBOS>	read you loud and clear	12:15
<GoodMood>	thx
<X>	#FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.	12:28
<TLTrader>	Shorts YM @ 10893 -> small size	12:35
	Covered all YM Short @ 10890 --> + 3	12:39
	was hoping ro 10880
	for
<togglex>	long er2 684.0	13:32
	delayed from a few mins ago
	close long er2 684.5 +0.5	13:33
<pat255>	nice toggle	13:34
<togglex>	thanks :)
<X>	#FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.	13:40
<szubaark_>	Exited all ES Long @ 1273.75 --> + 3	13:42
* dan_away	is now known as danshirley	13:44
<TLTrader>	Shorts YM @ 10923 -> small size	14:13
	Covered all YM Short @ 10920 --> + 3	14:19
	Long YM @ 10912 -> small size	14:26
	scalp
	Exited all YM Long @ 10919 --> + 7	14:32
	Shorts YM @ 10912	14:46
	Covered all YM Short @ 10917 --> - 5	14:50
<X>	#FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.	14:52
<NihabaAshi>	To those that aren't going to be here tomorrow...	15:52
	Have a merry christmas and safe holidays.	15:53
	I'll be logged in and will not trade if I can't get the remainder of my xmas shopping done tonight.
	Hopefully I can trade tomorrow morning.	15:54
* NihabaAshi	is now known as NihabaAshi_away
<X>	#FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.	16:04
<codehead>	just trading single stock futres past two days--OSIP and NEM did the best	16:07
* DisconnectedSession	Close: Thu Dec 22 16:53:03 2005	16:52