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<bigjim98282> | Long ES @ 754.00 | 09:09 |
| correction: ER2 |
* subq | market profile charts for today | 09:13 |
| http://www.charthub.com/chart/author/DA0 D7987572D7FBE3C7226C93DD52A |
* Awash_afk | is now known as Awash |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 09:15 |
<Pepe> | gm all | 09:19 |
<Trader222> | gm | 09:20 |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:22 |
<Trader222> | who else waiting for dow 13,250 | 09:23 |
<werner> | gm all | 09:25 |
<Andy> | gm all |
<Trader222> | what time is this new style fed auction? | 09:26 |
<rickf> | gm all |
<ripsboy> | Good Morning All... | 09:32 |
<drt> | gm guys |
<base> | GM | 09:39 |
<pat255> | gm all | 09:41 |
| late @office sigh |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1471 |
| exit stop raised ES @ 1469.75 | 09:43 |
* [1]Satish | is now known as Satish | 09:45 |
<pat255> | this mkt is sick...damn | 09:47 |
<eminitrader> | Exited all ES Long @ 1469.75 --> - 1.25 |
| Long ES @ 1469.50 | 09:49 |
<pat255> | goog below 700 unbelivable | 09:50 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1471 --> + 1.5 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1469.50 | 09:51 |
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<pat255> | nice entry ..em ..3rd bar green on 16t chart |
<eminitrader> | kinda chased it pat ...1469 wld have been the perfect entry | 09:52 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1469.50 --> 0 |
<pat255> | y ... |
<Awash> | good morning all |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1468 | 09:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | So far...creeper price action downwards. | 09:55 |
<pat255> | y |
<eminitrader> | yep looks like it |
<NihabaAshi> | Starting to setup for a boring morning unless some breaking news enters the picture. | 09:56 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1469 --> + 1 |
<rickf> | doesnt bush talk this morning? thought i heard that on the radio earlier |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1468 |
<robert> | Long ES @ 1469 -> small size |
<base> | There can be seen some support on daily chart. | 09:57 |
<robert> | Long ES @ 1469 -> small size |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1470 --> + 2 |
| hld 1 |
| Long ES @ 1469 -> Add | 09:58 |
<base> | And S1 is at 749.40. |
<silo> | did anyone use any of this morning's market events? |
<eminitrader> | stop now 1467.50 | 09:59 |
<NihabaAshi> | silo...you are talking in the wrong room. |
<eminitrader> | after new entry |
<silo> | oops :( |
<eminitrader> | exit stop raised ES @ 1467.75 | 10:03 |
<Satish> | Good Morning everyone | 10:04 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1471 --> + 2 |
<Satish> | Nice calls emini |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1468 | 10:05 |
<pdays> | Long YM @ 13340 |
| Exited all YM Long @ 13350 --> + 10 |
<eminitrader> | thx S..small size though ...high risk trades |
| Exited ES Long @ 1469.50 --> + 1.5 | 10:06 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1469.50 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1467.50 --> + 2 | 10:08 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1469.50 | 10:09 |
| be back.. |
| stopped out :( | 10:14 |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1469.50 --> 0 |
| Long ES @ 1468.75 | 10:15 |
| large size |
| exit stop set ES @ 1467 |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 750.90 | 10:17 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1470.75 --> + 2 |
<Andy> | sorry for the delay, trading real money today for first time in awhile |
<eminitrader> | hld 5 |
<Andy> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 752.7 --> + 1.8 | 10:18 |
<Brutus> | ex trades E and welcome back awash | 10:20 |
<eminitrader> | thx B |
<rickf> | brilliant call em |
<eminitrader> | nice long signal at brek of 1469 on 3 min @ 10:15 |
<Awash> | Howdy Brutus, will be around this week, watching markets and chatting |
<hum_g> | any1 using Ninjatrader |
<Awash> | Hum_g |
<eminitrader> | mean the bar closing @ 10:15 |
<Awash> | i use NT |
<robert> | Exited all ES Long @ 1471.75 +3 --> + 1471.75 +3 - 1469 | 10:21 |
<eminitrader> | lets see if it picks up some momemtum |
| Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1473.25 --> + 4.5 | 10:22 |
| hld 3 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1468.75 | 10:23 |
| looking to reverse if 1472 breks | 10:28 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1471.75 --> + 3 |
| exit stop lowered ES @ 1473.75 | 10:30 |
<Andy> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 752.0 --> + 1.1 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1469.75 --> + 1 |
| opps messed up here |
| Shorts ES @ 1471.75 |
| that was the reversal | 10:31 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1469.75 --> + 2 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1471.75 | 10:33 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 751.70 -> small size | 10:34 |
<pat255> | nice em with this slow mkt .. | 10:35 |
<eminitrader> | thx pat |
<NihabaAshi> | very slow...not worth trading any size | 10:36 |
<szubaark> | yup, nice "scalps" emini |
<eminitrader> | thx szu |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1471.75 --> 0 |
<NihabaAshi> | Hopefully volatiltiy increases to merit increasing my position size. | 10:37 |
<szubaark> | some Hammers showed up |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 754.10 --> + 2.4 |
| Geeesh...who started the fire. | 10:38 |
<pat255> | nice N ..dang was looking S .. |
| hmm dont S a dull mkt? |
<Andy> | there are buyers below the 12/4 ER swing low | 10:39 |
<pat255> | which is > |
<NihabaAshi> | Price action retraced about 7 ticks against me soon after my entry and out of no where a "volatility breakout" occurs to the upside. |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1473 | 10:43 |
| Long ES @ 1472.50 -> Add | 10:44 |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 volatility declining fast... |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. |
| Hopefully upwards and not downwards. |
<Trader222> | for me , just waited and longed off dow 13,250 whicvh is 1/2 retracement of recent h at 13750 and nov30? low at 12,750 | 10:45 |
| now wall is dow 13,300 which is 200dma | 10:46 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1474 --> + 1.5 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 754.40 --> + 2.7 |
<rickf> | hrmm today the es 3m is more accurate than the 1m |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1472.75 |
<rickf> | to me anywy |
<eminitrader> | nice follow thru on 3 min set-ups on the ES | 10:47 |
<rickf> | indeed --- the 1m is all over the place :) |
<eminitrader> | price action is not dissappionting today...says gap fill coming :) |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1472.75 --> - 0.25 | 10:48 |
| thats b/e on avg |
| but looks like its going to shake out the ones hlding for runners :( | 10:49 |
<szubaark> | yes, no followthru to upside :( | 10:50 |
<Trader222> | well logical pause area here 13,300 | 10:51 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1472.50 |
<Trader222> | question is whether a total wall and back down hard; or small retrace and back over it |
<eminitrader> | will add to 1470 | 10:52 |
<Trader222> | question: wasn't at screens fri afternoon - the PM dump; how easy was it to 'see' it and get short? |
| after it went sideways for 3 hours |
<eminitrader> | well pa says high probability that it will flow to the upside...ES i refer to |
<Brutus> | there is a inv hammer on the 3 and 5 min | 10:53 |
* Trader222 | short YM 71 high risk |
| cover YM+3 hatetrading chop(flat) | 10:54 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1471.50 -> Add |
<Trader222> | btw, no cnbc here today - what time is that new style fed auction? |
<eminitrader> | last add will be 1470... | 10:55 |
<szubaark> | Should be spiking any time now either up or down | 10:59 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1474.50 --> + 3 | 11:01 |
<rickf> | em is on a roll today |
<eminitrader> | just going with the mrkt flow r | 11:02 |
| just going with the mrkt flow r |
<werner> | very good em |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away |
<eminitrader> | thx w | 11:03 |
| [10:53:26] <eminitrader> well pa says high probability that it will flow to the upside...ES i refer to |
<NihabaAshi> | some resistance around 754 |
| DAX wants to go higher | 11:04 |
<eminitrader> | looks like its just picing stops .. |
| each high is a couple of ticks and then bam ...8-10 tick drop | 11:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | However, Oil and Gold currently not supporting higher prices |
<pat255> | y ... | 11:06 |
| drives me crazy.. |
| but the tend is up a bit .. | 11:07 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1472 |
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<eminitrader> | at least till it fills the gap |
<pat255> | y | 11:08 |
<eminitrader> | key supp on es 1471...if that breks ..expect change in trend ..with a high probability of test of lows |
| leading to prolly new lows for the day | 11:09 |
<robert> | Shorts ES @ 1473.50 -> small size |
<Trader222> | I'm watching dow for tells: 13,250 1/2fib held, now wall at 13,300 200d | 11:10 |
| IF we pop up, next UP pivot is 13,400 |
| IF we firmly lose 13,250 no real feel for next lower support |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1473.50 --> + 1 | 11:11 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1473.50 |
<Brutus> | President Bush will use a speech in Virginia today to reassure Americans about the economy. The mortgage crunch and high energy prices have sparked forecasts of a recession. Bush will insist the country's economic fundamentals are strong. |
<eminitrader> | going against the flow...with a pa sell entry |
<Brutus> | 11:25 CNBC |
<eminitrader> | usually a good scalp with a nice reversal to get back with the flow | 11:12 |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1471.50 --> + 2 | 11:13 |
<rickf> | short es 1472 |
<eminitrader> | watch 1471...if that breks cld be possible change in trend |
<robert> | Covered all ES Short @ 1472 +1.5 --> + 1473.50 - 1472 +1.5 | 11:14 |
<Andy> | Long ER2 @ 752 | 11:15 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1471.75 «« paper »» | 11:16 |
| exit stop set ES @ 1470.75 «« paper »» | 11:17 |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1472 --> + 1.5 | 11:18 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1472 |
<Andy> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 752.6 --> + 0.6 | 11:19 |
<eminitrader> | looks like support hld so far ..be back |
<Andy> | exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 752 | 11:20 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1470.75 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
<Andy> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 752 --> 0 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1470.75 «« paper »» |
<Andy> | wow |
| swept out all the weak hands | 11:21 |
| Long ER2 @ 752.2 | 11:23 |
<eminitrader> | man every time i go for a smoke i get stooped out :( | 11:24 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1470.75 --> - 1.25 |
| Shorts ES @ 1472 |
<Andy> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 753 --> + 0.8 | 11:25 |
<eminitrader> | large size |
| Shorts ES @ 1473 -> Add | 11:26 |
| hld 15 |
<Andy> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 752.5 --> + 0.3 | 11:27 |
| shorts erase in 2 minutes what took the longs 14 minutes...shorts are having too much fun | 11:29 |
<Brutus> | bush on |
<eminitrader> | Covered 2/3 ES Short @ 1471 --> + 2 | 11:30 |
| hld 5 |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1472 --> 0 | 11:31 |
<szubaark> | lots of shakes | 11:32 |
<pat255> | yup .staying out ... |
| u got to be quick .. | 11:33 |
<rickf> | exit es short 1471.75 + .25pts (be to me) | 11:34 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1472 |
| Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1469 --> + 3 | 11:36 |
<Andy> | emt, you're been calling some great shorts, wtg |
<eminitrader> | just need to hld thru the noise |
<pat255> | y big prob there |
<szubaark> | hopefully we will re-test lows here on ES | 11:37 |
<eminitrader> | high probaility .. |
| [11:09:30] <eminitrader> key supp on es 1471...if that breks ..expect change in trend ..with a high probability of test of lows |
| [11:09:56] <eminitrader> leading to prolly new lows for the day |
<szubaark> | they taking their sweet time. | 11:40 |
<eminitrader> | well it is lunch time :) |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1467.75 --> + 3 «« paper »» | 11:45 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1467.50 --> + 4.5 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:48 |
<rickf> | that's great, em. i'm having major fill problems today and lost the last 5 points :( | 11:49 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1467 --> + 5 | 11:50 |
| hld 1 |
| thx r |
| change to trade station :) | 11:51 |
| seriously ..excellent fills |
<rickf> | alas TS is not mac-friendly |
<eminitrader> | oh ..didn't know that |
<Brutus> | e how do they get better fills? | 11:53 |
<eminitrader> | hehehe..dont know abt better... |
| cause 99% of my limits get filled | 11:54 |
<Brutus> | ok ic |
<eminitrader> | and a lot of them before its printed ...or is at the bid/ask | 11:55 |
| depending on buy/sell...and some times it is the last tic before a bounce |
| like my fill @ 1467.50...limit buy...didn;t see 1467.25 print ...but mine was filled | 11:57 |
<pat255> | k guys c u all later ..ty all | 12:03 |
<rickf> | bye |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1470.50 «« paper »» | 12:15 |
<Satish> | szubaark any explanation on your position? | 12:17 |
| I would go long here |
<szubaark> | its just a scalp |
<Satish> | ok |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1470.50 --> 0 «« paper »» | 12:20 |
<Satish> | I dont expect good setups during lunchtime | 12:24 |
<rickf> | unbelievable.....oxps clearinghouse having comms problems | 12:26 |
| waiting nearly 50mins to get an order filled. | 12:27 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1472 --> 0 | 12:37 |
| Shorts ES @ 1471.25 | 12:43 |
| 5 lot |
| 4 tick stop |
| Covered 2/3 ES Short @ 1469.25 --> + 2 | 12:45 |
| hld 2 |
<bigjim-98282> | wtg e |
<eminitrader> | thx b | 12:46 |
<rickf> | wow. exited es short at +1.5 | 12:53 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1471.25 --> 0 | 12:54 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1472.25 «« paper »» | 12:58 |
<bigjim-98282> | Long ES @ 755.2 |
| correction ER2 |
<KiwiRoo> | heavy resistance up at 1473-4 imo. | 12:59 |
<bigjim-98282> | out +1 |
| Shorts ES @ 755.9 | 13:05 |
| correction, ER2 short @ 755.6 | 13:06 |
| out ER2 +1 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1468.50 --> - 3.75 «« paper »» | 13:08 |
| Shorts ES @ 1468.50 «« paper »» |
| :( | 13:09 |
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<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1469 |
| will hld for new lows | 13:14 |
<Satish> | Nice short emini | 13:15 |
<eminitrader> | thx S |
<Awash> | yeah, nice short E | 13:16 |
<bigjim98282> | Late trade: |
| Shorts ER2 @ 753.3 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 2/3 ES Short @ 1465 --> + 4 |
<Satish> | emini you took a very nice entry on trendlne break good |
<eminitrader> | thx a |
<bigjim98282> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 752.2 --> + 1.1 |
<eminitrader> | hld 2 |
| i dont follow trend lines S... | 13:18 |
| but my trade was based on brek of the 3 min bar @ 1:15 est | 13:19 |
| price action set-up |
<Satish> | ok thanks emini for your explanation |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1463.50 --> + 5 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | very nice SZU :)) |
<szubaark> | thanks :) | 13:20 |
<robert> | Long ES @ 1463.50 -> small size |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1465.50 +2 --> + 1465.50 +2 - 1463.50 | 13:21 |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 volatility dropping fast | 13:29 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. |
| don't really care which direction because I currently have no open positions | 13:30 |
<eminitrader> | noiw thats being rude :) |
<szubaark> | :) |
<eminitrader> | hehehehe |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 751.60 -> small size | 13:31 |
<eminitrader> | k there u go |
<NihabaAshi> | :) |
| 1 contract only | 13:32 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1465.50 «« paper »» | 13:34 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 752.50 --> - 0.9 |
* Trader222 | Long YM 13,315 tiny |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility spike upwards |
<eminitrader> | tricky area here ...may see a bounce upto the 68-71 area |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 752.20 -> small size | 13:36 |
<szubaark> | Contracting Volatility, hopefully it spikes down, Im Short |
<NihabaAshi> | tough price action szu for us shorts |
| Gold and Oil trying hard to give the Longs some support. | 13:37 |
<Trader222> | imo only 'easy' trade today was longing first kiss of dow 13,250 ; but that didn't make much; but imo it was 'easy' |
| losing patience on this scalp long | 13:38 |
<eminitrader> | high probability of a retest of the low but will prolly test the 68-71 area first |
<Trader222> | IF we go down hard; now that 13,250 is lost; where does anyone else see lower firm support? |
<eminitrader> | i see 13020-13070 on the ym on the ym | 13:39 |
| next major area of support |
<Trader222> | that's so far away :) I meant a bit closer | 13:40 |
| 13,000 dow cash is obvious; but thats not happening today lol; least that would be shocking |
<NihabaAshi> | I have support for ER2 around 749.80 |
<eminitrader> | the closest i see is 13225 |
<Trader222> | Dec 1457 was old pivot; that's about where we are right now | 13:41 |
<eminitrader> | but have no indication if its minor or major support area |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility currently is slowly increasing |
<Trader222> | which I guess explains this Mar1467 chop |
| oops. sorry; while typing |
<NihabaAshi> | Geeesh...look at the DAX |
* Trader222 | stophit tinysize out YM-10 at 13305 |
<Pepe> | wow | 13:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | something spooked it... |
| Big drop |
<Pepe> | Dax and NQ down |
<eminitrader> | prooly niha going short spooked it :) |
<Pepe> | only ER2 is STOP |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1465.50 «« paper »» |
<Trader222> | DAX quoteless at moment; how hard did DAX move? |
<szubaark> | :) |
| Lookig for Volatility Breakout to downside now. | 13:43 |
<eminitrader> | looks like will see some nice set-ups for pm trading |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 751.70 --> + 0.5 |
| Long ER2 @ 751.40 -> small size | 13:45 |
<eminitrader> | see a huhe tank coming | 13:47 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 750.60 --> - 0.8 | 13:48 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 750.60 |
<Pepe> | NQ aregoing down quick |
<NihabaAshi> | Yeah...something is up... |
| It's soon filter down do us "retail traders" outside of the loop :) |
<KiwiRoo> | big gap for support here... |
<Pepe> | yeah |
<KiwiRoo> | 1459.25 for target on ES |
* Trader222 | late post; /me short ES 65; (doing some option stuff-sorry_ | 13:49 |
<NihabaAshi> | Meant "it will" filter down to us because the big boys have already started beniffiting form the info prior to us. |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1463 --> + 6 | 13:50 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1463 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | hld 1 |
<Pepe> | nice |
<eminitrader> | thx p |
<NihabaAshi> | We are a few ticks below that support zone. |
<Brutus> | good short trades guys, szu getting your revenge for Friday :) | 13:51 |
* Trader222 | covers 63 +1.75; wanna watch Qs at 50.0 plus some option stuff |
<Trader222> | have fun with da futures |
<eminitrader> | what happened fri szu ?.. |
<bulldog> | weekly er2 s1 @ 748.70 |
<KiwiRoo> | 1459 here we come.! | 13:52 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 749.70 --> + 0.9 |
<Trader222> | question: does this feel like "umm, sorta light volume" overall today? |
<NihabaAshi> | I don't know about volume but the volatility has been very light. | 13:53 |
| I see lots of volatility contraction within the ranges of many other volatility contractions... | 13:54 |
<eminitrader> | this kind of mrkts make trading stressfull... |
<NihabaAshi> | That tells me its a low volatility trading environment. |
| Tells me to keep my position size small. |
<eminitrader> | meaning we know the trend...but followthru is slow... |
| and to addd to that is the noise.. | 13:55 |
* Trader222 | risk L 1462.50 stop3 (1462.50 is 15pts under F's close). |
<eminitrader> | usually more than normal on days like these ..making it tough for hlding runners and most often shaking us out of a good position |
* Trader222 | out 1/2 ES64+1.5/ stop raised to BE | 13:57 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 749.60 -> small size | 13:58 |
<KiwiRoo> | let see if 1459 can be reach in this push.. | 13:59 |
* Trader222 | stopped out last 1/2 ES L at BE stop+0 |
<eminitrader> | that will get me my tenner :) |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 748.70 --> - 0.9 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 748.70 |
<KiwiRoo> | awesoem.. i don't see anything until there... | 14:00 |
| awesome* |
<eminitrader> | but still nothing compared to last wednesday :) |
<NihabaAshi> | Key markets doing a volatility breakout together but it doesn't look right. |
<KiwiRoo> | last wed was too much..... |
<eminitrader> | yep had 24 pts on 1 trade | 14:01 |
<KiwiRoo> | wow nice. |
<eminitrader> | and then 17 on another |
<KiwiRoo> | ho ho ho hollycow... |
<eminitrader> | will never forget that day ---will stand out --in my trading calendar |
<KiwiRoo> | should get yourself a mini trophey just as a reminder..hehe.. | 14:02 |
<szubaark> | Wend. looks like a nice, strong Downtrend day. | 14:03 |
<eminitrader> | hehhehe.. |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 749.60 --> - 0.9 |
<szubaark> | emini u talking 12/12? |
<eminitrader> | B mentioned that the record on this board was 32 pts in a trade |
| yes Szu |
<silo> | wow lots of people here today i just noticed |
<rickf> | could use a nice downtrend to wrap the day up, sure :) | 14:04 |
<KiwiRoo> | i still remember fed day back few month ago... 70 points move. on ES. |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 750.30 -> small size |
<szubaark> | Niha was milking it on FOMC day 12/11 |
<NihabaAshi> | 2 only |
<eminitrader> | yep remember that too...was too dumbfounded to trade that move :) | 14:05 |
<KnnK-ER2> | Long ER2 @ 750.6 |
<NihabaAshi> | Gold and Oil trying hard to give me some support on my Long position. |
<KiwiRoo> | is that what keeping up the market and bounces at 61.00 (ES).. hmm hmmm | 14:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 749.70 --> - 0.6 | 14:08 |
| :( | 14:09 |
| too choppy for me |
<KiwiRoo> | very choppy... it needs to go lower.. imo. |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 749.60 -> small size | 14:10 |
<Brutus> | http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={f9ba5 840-a34e-4d8e-969c-cb1b667a9d21} | 14:13 |
| thats why the markets down |
<KnnK-ER2> | Exited ER2 Long @ 749.6 --> - 1 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 749.6 |
<KiwiRoo> | tank already... damnit... | 14:15 |
<rickf> | short es 1469.75 |
| 1461.75 sorry | 14:16 |
* bigjim98292 | is now known as bigjim9828 |
<bigjim9828> | there she goes | 14:19 |
<KnnK-ER2> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 750.4 --> - 0.8 | 14:21 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1464 --> + 5 |
<bigjim9828> | wtg e | 14:23 |
<eminitrader> | :)) |
<NihabaAshi> | Geeesh | 14:24 |
| ER2 is determine to move slowly while other key markets are picking up volatility while retracing back up. |
<bigjim9828> | Shorts ER2 @ 750.5 | 14:25 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 750 --> + 0.5 | 14:26 |
<KiwiRoo> | man.. this is wild... | 14:28 |
<Trader222> | how interesting: Dec 1460-65 a bit ago was a chop range many times over days; now here we hare with the March in the same #s |
<codehead> | Qm closing with a strong move up last 25 mins | 14:29 |
| (crude) |
* Trader222 | L YM 305 | 14:30 |
<werner> | pfff what a slooooow market |
<bigjim9828> | Long ES @ 750.7 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 751.3 --> + 0.6 | 14:31 |
| dont know what is up with my script. |
<rickf> | exit es 1465.75 -4pts |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1466.25 «« paper »» | 14:32 |
* Trader222 | out 1/2 YM L +11 | 14:33 |
<Trader222> | BE rest |
| thought we'd see es 67 |
<eminitrader> | missed szu ..had 1466.75 :( |
| same here T |
<szubaark> | yes might go to 1467 | 14:34 |
<Satish> | nice call szu |
<rickf> | nice |
<eminitrader> | will not sell this time |
| @ 66.75 |
| Shorts ES @ 1465.25 | 14:36 |
| 10 lot |
<bigjim9828> | Shorts ER2 @ 751.1 |
<szubaark> | what yur Stop emini? | 14:37 |
<bigjim9828> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 750.5 --> + 0.6 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 750.90 --> + 1.3 |
<eminitrader> | 66.25 szu..brek of the 3 min @ 2:36 est |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1464.75 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
<Satish> | nice szu | 14:38 |
<szubaark> | thanx.. |
<bigjim9828> | Long ES @ 751 | 14:39 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 752 --> + 1 |
<Satish> | that was quickie | 14:40 |
<eminitrader> | :( |
| Covered all ES Short @ 1466.25 --> - 1 |
| Shorts ES @ 1465.25 | 14:42 |
| 10 lot .. |
* Trader222 | out last of YM Long BE stop hit+0 305 | 14:43 |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 751.6 | 14:44 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 750.7 --> + 0.9 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1463.25 --> + 2 |
<KiwiRoo> | for some reason... I'm still looking for 59 to be hit. | 14:45 |
<eminitrader> | :)) | 14:46 |
| lol |
| Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1464.25 --> + 1 | 14:47 |
| hld 2 |
<rainer> | Long YM @ 13216 | 14:48 |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 751 | 14:49 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 750.5 --> + 0.5 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1462.75 «« paper »» | 14:50 |
<Satish> | emini keep holding ur leftover short | 14:51 |
| nice call szu |
<eminitrader> | yep 2 | 14:52 |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 749.5 | 14:53 |
<Satish> | nice... |
<rainer> | Exited all YM Long @ 13198 --> - 18 |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1461.25 --> + 4 |
| hld 1 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1462.75 «« paper »» |
<rickf> | nice em |
<KiwiRoo> | for crap sake... get to 59 already so i can go and take a poop... :P |
<eminitrader> | thx r |
<bigjim98282> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 748.7 --> + 0.8 | 14:54 |
<szubaark> | either new lows or gets my Stop. |
<Satish> | should cover around1460 |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 748.6 | 14:55 |
<KiwiRoo> | my target is at 1459.25 as I'm sure.. 1459 will be hit. |
<bigjim98282> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 747.6 --> + 1 | 14:56 |
<KiwiRoo> | 1460 big bid on Big SP market..... holding it up.. |
<eminitrader> | looks like uthe mrkt does not want u to take a poop yet K :)) | 14:57 |
<szubaark> | :) |
<KiwiRoo> | it will get there eventually.. rofl. |
<eminitrader> | it certainly is testing ur patience |
| lol |
<KiwiRoo> | no shitz. |
| bid at 60.00 is gone... | 14:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 747.60 -> small size |
<eminitrader> | be back ..smoke time |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1460.50 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» |
<Satish> | cool |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 748.20 --> - 0.6 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 748.20 |
<eminitrader> | hope i dont get stopped out this time :) |
<KiwiRoo> | where is ya stop at? | 14:59 |
<NihabaAshi> | I suspected a possible sling shot price action back upwards if it pushed down back below 747.60 |
<KiwiRoo> | interesting thought... | 15:00 |
<rickf> | 3pm..... |
<KiwiRoo> | news ? | 15:01 |
<rickf> | nope --- just what i call these days the witching hour |
<KiwiRoo> | market profile hour. |
<bigjim98282> | Long ES @ 748.5 | 15:02 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 748.40 --> + 0.2 | 15:03 |
| :( |
<bigjim98282> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 748.5 --> 0 |
<KiwiRoo> | oh thank god... 1459. | 15:04 |
<szubaark> | now u can go. |
<KiwiRoo> | 1456 next. |
<eminitrader> | heheheh |
<KiwiRoo> | yeah... |
<bigjim98282> | take the laptop, kiwi :) |
<eminitrader> | my stops @ b/e k | 15:05 |
<KiwiRoo> | lol.... true...haha.. |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 747.00 -> small size |
| Hold on :) |
<szubaark> | Niha getting support from oil and Gold now? | 15:06 |
<silo> | nope. no support |
| OIL maybe |
* Trader222 | cover YM+15 |
<silo> | if it gets down there |
* Trader222 | L ES 57.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | too bad its only a 1 contract trade for me | 15:07 |
| Yeah...Oil adn Gold trying to give us Shorts some support... |
| Not looking good for that help. | 15:08 |
| They are trying hard to stabilize. |
| Right now would be a good time for ER2 to do its own thing and drop further. |
<rickf> | shorted es 1459 --> 1457.75 +1.25pts (mid size) |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 746.70 --> + 0.3 | 15:10 |
<silo> | wow a crazy market |
| hehe |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 747.10 -> small size |
| It's spiking like crazy on very little volatility as if a retail traders are controlling the action. | 15:11 |
<rickf> | were i going by indicators i'd be long --- but not at 3:11PM in this market |
| even if the indicators are right, too much vol for my likes today | 15:12 |
<NihabaAshi> | Almost as if the big boys have gone home already for the day. |
<rickf> | yup |
<NihabaAshi> | Then again...didn't Chicago (CME and CBOT) get hit by a BIG SNOW storm ??? |
<rickf> | yep |
<NihabaAshi> | Hmmmm. |
<rickf> | think so --- midwest got pounded hard i heard | 15:13 |
<szubaark> | no big storm nut it is Cold :) |
<NihabaAshi> | Maybe some of those guys didn't make it into the office today :) |
| :) |
<szubaark> | Chicago 21F |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 747.9 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 747.30 --> + 0.2 | 15:14 |
<KiwiRoo> | where is the market going now.. hmm.. |
<NihabaAshi> | Geessh... |
<rickf> | in circles |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm done for the day. |
| That should have been an easy 1.5 point trade and all I got was 2 ticks. |
<rickf> | if i see a large spike down i'll do a momo play but otherwise watching | 15:15 |
<KiwiRoo> | badluck Niha...tooo jumppy today. |
<bigjim98282> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 747.3 --> + 0.6 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm going to go outside and finish my snow cleanup of the big storm that hit us up here in Quebec. |
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<rickf> | enjoy the exercise niha! :) |
| wouldbe great to see snow here in dc | 15:16 |
<NihabaAshi> | We've already doubled the amount of snow in comparison to this time last year of 2 1/2 feet. |
<KiwiRoo> | love snow.. |
<NihabaAshi> | So far...5 feet of snow. |
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<eminitrader> | had 8 inches this wkend here |
<NihabaAshi> | December ain't even over yet :( |
<bigjim98282> | 5 feet, not fun to drive in. |
<rickf> | eeep :( |
<KiwiRoo> | gogo 56.00 |
<NihabaAshi> | My back yard looks weird...snow is over the fence... | 15:17 |
<bigjim98282> | could lose a kid in that snow... |
<NihabaAshi> | Looks spooky because all the yards look merged via a big white blanket. |
<werner> | wow |
<NihabaAshi> | See all tomorrow...sucky price action and too much snow... | 15:18 |
| Should have stayed in bed. |
<rickf> | later |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<KiwiRoo> | All markets was selling, 1456 is imminent. How that for a bias view. | 15:19 |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 747 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 746 --> + 1 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 746.1 | 15:21 |
<KiwiRoo> | come on push..... push push... u can do it. | 15:22 |
<Satish> | rick are you from dc? |
<rickf> | yup |
<Satish> | me too |
<rickf> | wherebouts? |
<Satish> | Herndon VA |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1457.25 --> + 8 |
<bigjim98282> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 746.4 --> - 0.3 |
<eminitrader> | was hlg for a tenner :( | 15:23 |
<rickf> | bravo em! |
<bigjim98282> | wtg e |
<rickf> | great timing too |
<eminitrader> | thx guys.. |
<rickf> | arlington |
<eminitrader> | tough to hld for tenners today | 15:24 |
<KiwiRoo> | Nice emini. |
<eminitrader> | thx K |
<rickf> | k my charts were right after all | 15:25 |
<bigjim98282> | Shorts ER2 @ 747.5 | 15:26 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 747 --> + 0.5 | 15:27 |
<szubaark> | nice emini | 15:31 |
<eminitrader> | thx szu |
<KiwiRoo> | i got empty space on my chart between 1459 and 63... hmm.. | 15:34 |
| and the market took it right up. | 15:36 |
<silo> | WOW |
| crazy reversal spike |
<KiwiRoo> | yeah.. no resistance between that two numbers. | 15:37 |
| 1466.50 next.. | 15:38 |
| 56 got hit... i can now sleep tonight.. :P | 15:53 |
<rickf> | shorted es from 1461.50 --> 1457 +4.5pts |
| done for the day | 15:54 |
<KiwiRoo> | nice work. |
<rickf> | thx -- kept working my stops every point down :) |
<KiwiRoo> | new low will cause a big sell off i reckon.. | 15:58 |
<rickf> | k guys - have a good night, trade ya tomorrow |
<KiwiRoo> | jeezz>>. look at the size on the dom. |
| c ya rick. |
* Trader222 | cover YM 52+18; no fill at 50 was 2late | 15:59 |
| L es 56.5 |
<bigjim98282> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 743.5 --> + 4 | 16:02 |
<eminitrader> | very nice :) |
<bigjim98282> | thx. may tomorrow be better. |
<eminitrader> | sure :)) |
<Trader222> | had trouble shorting the last hour; kept watching for one of those 3es 1min upticks we had all last week | 16:03 |
| so ER least weak; NQ dragged everything lower |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:04 |
| DJIA down 168.18 points to 13171.83 |
| NASDAQ down 55.93 points to 2579.81 |
| S&P 500 down 21.21 points to 1446.83 |
| 10-year T-note up 15/32 at 100 17/32 yield 4.182 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $0.07 at $90.70/bbl |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0035 at 1.4388 |
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<Trader222> | to me that is saying that today was Fund Longs selling their winners before they leave later this week for rest of year |
| NQ for year the strongest-today; by far the weakest |
<Trader222> | offering at 57.5 for 1/2 | 16:31 |
<werner> | gn all |
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* Trader222 | out 1/2 ES L , offer hit while away 57.5+1 ; now out rest 57+0.5; not holding this dog overnight | 17:31 |
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