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Dec 9th Fri 2005 Trade Log

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 Session Start: Fri Dec 09 09:22:24 2005Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now talking in #futurestrades09:22
* Topic is ' #FuturesTrades -> Realtime active trade posting ER2, ES, NQ, YM, Eurex, T-Notes, EuroFX @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTra desChatRoom.htm'
* Set by X on Thu Dec 01 16:23:28
<X> [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab
* X sets mode: +o RacerX
<PapaJon> gm all09:25
* RacerX sets mode: +v PapaJon
<eminitrader> morn pj09:32
* RacerX sets mode: +v eminitrader
<X> [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab09:37
* X sets mode: +o NihabaAshi
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 690.70 -> small size 09:40
* RacerX sets mode: +v NihabaAshi
<NihabaAshi> I have a Bearish Bias but will get confirmation about it here in a minute when the Market Volatility Index opens.09:43
 Meant...I'm waiting for confirmation.09:44
 Crap.09:45
<PapaJon> consum confid news do

any minute now09:46
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop lowered ER2 @ 692.00
<szubaark_>  Shorts YM @ 10825
* RacerX sets mode: +v szubaark_
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 692.00 --> - 1.3 09:47

Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 692.00

Exited ER2 Long @ 691.00 --> - 1 09:53

Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 691.00

Reversal into a Large position.
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1266.25 09:54
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 691.00 10:01
<eminitrader>  Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1266.25 --> 0 10:02
<NihabaAshi>  Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 691.00 --> 0
<eminitrader> exit all
<NihabaAshi> Shook me out and took its time at it when it hit 691.00 :(10:03

Long enough for me not to re-short it again :(
<szubaark_> hehe.. i wont shake me out
  Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10811 --> + 14
<eminitrader>  Long ES @ 1265.25 10:04
<togglex> long er2 689.210:06
<eminitrader>  exit stop set ES @ 1264.75

be back in a min
<togglex> close long er2 689.5 +0.310:08
 long er2 689.2 stop 689.910:10
<jperl>  Shorts YM @ 10815
* RacerX sets mode: +v jperl
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 689.30 -> large size
<togglex> close long er2 689.9 -0.310:11
<TLTrader> anyone else having trouble with esignal?10:12
* RacerX sets mode: +v TLTrader
<NihabaAshi> I'm having a little trouble with Futuresource that eSignal now manages :(
<eminitrader>  Exited all ES Long @ 1264.75 --> - 0.5
<TLTrader> my charts just died10:13
<NihabaAshi> However, my backup QCharts is working ok
 :(
 spoke too soon...starting getting some data problems.10:14
 Looking to dump my trade because I'm spending more time trying to find a good server instead of being able to monitor my position.10:17
  Covered all ER2 Short @ 689.30 --> 0 10:18
<coolweb>  Shorts NQ @ 10814 10:19
* RacerX sets mode: +v coolweb
<coolweb> man10:21

the chop is crazy

stop 1081310:22

good night
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 688.30 -> large size 10:24
<coolweb> partial stop 10809
<mispe>  Shorts YM @ 10805 10:25
* RacerX sets mode: +v mispe
<NihabaAshi> I've had the direction correct since 691.00 area but can't hold the position because of either the chop (stopped out twice at breakeven) or data problems.
<pdays>  Shorts ER2 @ 687.8 «« paper »»
* RacerX sets mode: +v pdays
<NihabaAshi> I need a 687.00 to be profitable for the day.10:26
<coolweb> partial stop 10805
<mispe>  Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10798 --> + 7
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop lowered ER2 @ 688.20
<mispe>  Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10799 --> + 6 10:27
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.
<coolweb> partial stop 1080110:28
<substanz>  Long YM @ 10795 «« paper »»
* RacerX sets mode: +v substanz
<coolweb> keeping it money tight10:30
  Covered 1/2 NQ Short @ 10799 --> + 15 10:32
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop lowered ER2 @ 688.00 10:33

coolweb...nice trade.
<coolweb> nihabashi: thanks buddy10:34
<jperl>  exit stop lowered YM @ 10807
<coolweb> rest will ride10:35
<NihabaAshi> Coolweb...your script is showing NQ instead of YM.

Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 688.00 --> + 0.3 10:38
<mispe>  Long YM @ 10793 10:42
  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10798 --> + 5 10:44
<substanz>  Exited all YM Long @ 10799 --> + 4 «« paper »»
<jperl>  exit stop lowered YM @ 10802 10:45
<mispe>  Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10797 --> + 4 10:46
<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 688.20 -> small size 10:47
 Missed 688.00 entry...will use that price to ADD is it retraces back to it.10:48
<jperl>  Covered YM Short @ 10802 --> + 13
<NihabaAshi> Nevermind...my breakeven trigger price was just reached.10:49
  exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 688.20
<szubaark_>  Covered all YM Short @ 10804 --> + 21

Long YM @ 10804 10:50
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop raised ER2 @ 688.30
 Missing that 688.00 entry...I don't have any wiggle room...10:52
 Will be a lucky trade if it doesn't pick off my stop.
  exit stop raised ER2 @ 688.50 11:00
<coolweb>  Covered 1/4 NQ Short @ 10802 --> + 12 11:03

keeping it tight

high risk day , too many people wanting to short it seems
<NihabaAshi> I'm one of them and it didn't pay off as I expected :(
<mispe>  Shorts YM @ 10806 11:04
<NihabaAshi>  Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 690.50 --> + 2.3 11:07
 Holding 1 contract and I'm profitable for the day.
<mispe>  Covered all YM Short @ 10806 --> 0
<NihabaAshi> Most likely will call it quits for the day after this...
<substanz>  Shorts YM @ 10809 «« paper »»
<szubaark_>  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10814 --> + 10 11:08
<NihabaAshi> 2 Losers, 2 winners and 2 breakevens that should have been winners by a 1-3 ticks (trade management error on my part).
<substanz>  Covered all YM Short @ 10820 --> - 11 «« paper »» 11:09
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop raised ER2 @ 690.50
<szubaark_> Pullbacks are no fun :)))
<substanz>  Shorts YM @ 10822 «« paper »» 11:10
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop raised ER2 @ 690.70 11:11
<danshirley> Goldman: says today that most of year end rally is over :-))11:12
* RacerX sets mode: +v danshirley
<szubaark_> We goin higher then!11:13
<danshirley> probably...I think I'll dump my puts
<coolweb> szu: hahaha right :) goldman probably loading up on massive calls , just like they did with the $105 oil call11:14
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 690.8 11:18
* NihabaAshi sets mode: +v les
<NihabaAshi>  Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 690.70 --> + 2.5 11:19
<substanz>  Covered all YM Short @ 10812 --> + 10 «« paper »»
<szubaark_>  Exited all YM Long @ 10807 --> + 3 11:20
<les>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 690.4 --> + 0.4
<PapaJon> my esignal data feed is dead... anyone else on esignal having ttrouble?11:33
* RacerX sets mode: +v PapaJon
<TLTrader> yeah PJ mines been dead for roughly an hour11:34
<danshirley> TS data feed is intact11:35
<PapaJon> tlt.. must be server thing then11:37
 evidently lots of people in other rooms are dead too11:38
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.11:39
<TLTrader> eSignal mentioned on ET they had connectivity issues11:44
<PapaJon> mine just came back11:46

hmmf... everything cept my daily charts... weird11:47
<coolweb>  Shorts NQ @ 10814
 stop tight
<PapaJon> ah.. there's my dailies11:48

all good now
<coolweb>  Covered all NQ Short @ 10814 --> 0 11:49
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.12:48
<NihabaAshi> My current trend analysis is NEUTRAL bias (too much chop or indecision).12:57
 Maybe things will heat up here after 1pm est.
<coolweb> Nihabashi : :) I'm bear but I sit out13:02

actually not bear13:03

neutral as well
<eminitrader>  Shorts ES @ 1267.50 13:15
  exit stop set ES @ 1268.50 13:16
<substanz>  Shorts YM @ 10840 «« paper »» 13:38
* NihabaAshi sets mode: +v substanz
<substanz>  Covered all YM Short @ 10841 --> - 1 «« paper »» 13:45
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.14:00
<TLTrader> hoping to buy a dip around YM 10830ish14:07
<substanz> trendline touch, yes14:08
<NihabaAshi> A few more points upwards and I'll change my Neutral bias into a Bullish bias...started the day with a Bearish bias.14:27

However, that quickly changed to Neutral as soon as the Market Volatility Index open at 0945am est...reason why I had some problem with my trend analysis in those first two trades...14:29
<szubaark_> U talking VIX?
<NihabaAshi> VIX, VXN and VXO.

Second trade was too soon after they open.
<szubaark_> hmm.. Im not familiar with what to look for with those.14:30
<NihabaAshi> However, I knew the risk and reason why I was small size only on both trades.
<substanz>  Shorts YM @ 10865 «« paper »» 14:33
  Covered all YM Short @ 10855 --> + 10 «« paper »» 14:37
<szubaark_>  Shorts YM @ 10852 15:00
<substanz>  Long YM @ 10842 «« paper »» 15:10
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.15:12
<substanz>  Exited all YM Long @ 10850 --> + 8 «« paper »» 15:16
<szubaark_> crap.. should be trading this pullback crap15:25

too frikin risky this late in the day
<substanz> yes, bullish bias15:31
<TLTrader> cya guys next week15:35
<szubaark_>  Covered all YM Short @ 10847 --> + 5 15:42
 I shoudnt be trading this late in the day and this pullback crap. Geez.15:43
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away16:14
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.16:21
  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.17:33
  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.18:45
* DisconnectedSession Close: Fri Dec 09 18:55:35 200518:55

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