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#FuturesTrades November 17th Friday 2006 Trade Log

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Click here for the instructions on gaining access to #FuturesTrades.

In addition, trades posted by members of #FuturesTrades in the below trade post chat log are by traders that do not have access to TheStrategyLab.com strategies except for NihabaAshi.

Fee-based clients of TheStrategyLab.com strategies use the private IRC rooms called #TheStrategyLab and #SwingTradingTSL.

Further, you'll find below the chat room time stamped text log of realtime trades (real money and simulator) that were posted by full-time, part-time traders from around the world and the timestamp is eastern standard time (est). 

Also, below NihabaAshi's trading blog like comments, you can read the time stamped trades (prices, entries, exits et cetera) and market discussions that sometimes contains trading tips or insights that are more useful than what you will see at any other futures blog or chat room.

Trading Blog Below is not your traditional trader's blog in the usual blog format. However, you will find informative commentary on a few occasions as time permits and such will contain trading tips that should help your trading as I attempt to sum up my thoughts as I traversed from the first trade to the last trade that was posted in #FuturesTrades realtime trade posting chat room. 

 

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Volatility Analysis and Large Prints (Times & Sales Analysis)  

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There are hundreds of ways to determine support/resistance levels (zones) that are derived from either mathematical equations, trend line analysis, volatility analysis and pattern analysis to just name a few.

I mainly use volatility analysis and pattern analysis via as part of what I call WRB Analysis to determine my support/resistance information...have been doing such since the 80's via the exact same method.

Take a look at SPY which is the exchange traded fund of the S&P 500 that's traded on AMEX and it is important to watch because it provides additional pattern signals for trades in the Emini ES futures when ES doesn't give a pattern signal.

Look at your 2min chart of SPY that closed @ 0942am est.

That's a expansion interval or what I call a WRB (wide range body based upon the difference between the Open and Close).

That WRB is a s/r zone and had large prints (traders doing some big position sizes) in comparison to the prior intervals.

Now look at the 2min chart of SPY that closed @ 1034am est...that's a pattern signal and produced some nice profits for any of our clients that have access to our strategies.

Just as important, that earlier WRB s/r zone gave some early hints about the price action that would developed later in the trading day.

With that said, WRBs can be broken down into different types of WRBs.

Yet, info about WRBs is only reserved for our fee-based clients in our trading reports.

My point with all the above although via a simple easy to follow example...volatility analysis and times & sales analysis go hand to hand especially if your looking for clues to determine which large prints have importance versus large prints that has no impact on the price movement.

Today's results (real money and simulator trading) shown above are that of NihabaAshi only. To see his total accumulated points for the month of November...click here. To see results for the months of 2006 and prior years...click here.

Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)  
intradaystrategies@yahoo.com

Note: Each month there are a few trading days that we consider to involve interconnecting key price action of different markets and such is represented by a particular type of price action from one of the key markets. You can view the charts and their clues that's associated with the key price action at our key market archives.

  

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Session Start: Fri Nov 17 09:27:07 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades
* Now  #FuturesTrades purpose and benefits...click here. 09:27
<X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm
<PapaJon> gm all09:30
<asuni> hi niha, u have a bias for the open?09:32
<NihabaAshi> I'm bullish for the Open.09:33
<szubaark>  Buys NQ @ 1798.75 «« paper »» 09:35
<deepitm>  Long YM @ 12315 09:39
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ES @ 789.9 «« paper »» 09:40
Long ES @ 788.9 «« paper »»
Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 789.9 --> + 1 «« paper »» 09:41
script errorslong 1 788.9
<yvberj> G.M. everyone. Had a busy few days, now back to trading again.09:42
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited all ES Long @ 788.8 --> - 0.1 «« paper »»
<PapaJon> wb yvberj
<szubaark> yvberj, lets trade.09:43
exit stop set NQ @ 1798.75 «« paper »»
<yvberj> It felt wierd not being at my desk.09:44
<deepitm>  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 12325 --> + 10 09:45
<pat255> gm all..09:49
  
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<Brutus> Not the options Expiration open I wanted :(09:51
<szubaark>  Exited all Long NQ at 1802.75 --> + 4 «« paper »» 09:54

:))
<RussellDaytrade> instant double on nmx, they shoulda done a dutch auction, pocketed another 200M.09:56
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY)10:02
<Brutus>  Shorts ER2 @ 790.4 «« paper »» 10:03
Covered ER2 Short @ 790.7 --> - 0.3 «« paper »»
<PapaJon> ER2 acting stupid this morn.. only two trades so far.. fortunately made small pt1 then stopped b/e on both.10:04
<Brutus>  Shorts ER2 @ 790.7 «« paper »»
<PapaJon> becoming a jagged mess10:05
<deepitm>  Exited 1/4 YM Long @ 12330 --> + 15
<Brutus> Doing some paper trades to get back in form :)

Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 790.2 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 10:06

Covered ER2 Short @ 790.7 --> 0 «« paper »» 10:07
<NihabaAshi> Looks like EuroFX EC was the play of the morning.10:08
<Brutus>  Shorts ER2 @ 790.2 «« paper »» 10:09

Covered ER2 Short @ 790.6 --> - 0.4 «« paper »»
<ItalianSharp> EURFX is having a parabolic surge10:10
<deepitm>  Exited Remainder YM Long @ 12325 --> + 10
<yo> nice deepitm10:11
<deepitm> thanks
<RussellDaytrade> morning low of 786 or so??10:14
<pdays> i have 87.710:15
<Brutus> I am thinking the same RD10:17
Other indicies holding
<jperl> dicey trading for me this morning....10:22

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-11-17/JP ERL_019.png

still holding 1 contract short

ER2 VWAP 789.5410:24

hope it stays below that
<szubaark> looks like CHOP rest of day.. too much stress trying to trade tight, fakeout tiny ranges10:27
<jperl> looking for 785.6010:30

my stop is VWAP
<Brutus> Dollar falls broadly, traders cite talk of a US hedge fund in trouble-Reuters10:33
<RussellDaytrade> feels like its losing steam to the down side in here

Long ES @ 787.4 «« paper »» 10:34

model says up 4 in 41 minutes10:36

Exited all ER2 Long @ 788.4 --> + 1 «« paper »» 10:38
<jperl> still holding 1 contract short ER210:41
stop at 789.5010:44
just above VWAP which is now 789.21
ER2 bounced off VWAP10:48
<RussellDaytrade> looks like it's gonna be a tortured type of rise10:49
<jperl> ER2 bounced off VWAP second time10:50
buyers are clawing at that VWAP with bloody nails10:52
sellers are beating them back with maces10:54
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 788.50 -> small size

1 contract only
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 788.1 «« paper »» 10:58
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 788.10 --> + 0.4
<jperl> still short 1 contract
still looking for 785.6010:59
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 787.3 -> Add «« paper »» 11:02
<pat255> vn jp...11:03
<jperl> I'm not out of the woods yet pat
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 786.3 -> Add «« paper »»
<pat255> good call.. jp tho11:04
<jperl> It's a good call when I hear CA CHUNG of the cash register
<pat255> hope so jp....:)11:05
<jperl> ok I bailed at 786.5011:06
I'm done....11:07
here are the trades....
http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-11-17/JP ERL_0110.png11:08
  
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<Brutus>  Long ER2 @ 785.3 «« paper »» 11:10

Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 786.1 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» 11:13

Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 786.3 --> + 1 «« paper »»
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY)11:14
<Brutus>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 786.6 --> + 1.3 «« paper »» 11:16
<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 786.80 -> small size 11:17
2 contracts only
Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 787.30 --> + 0.5 11:18
<RussellDaytrade>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 787.4 --> + 0.4 «« paper »»
<NihabaAshi> :(
<RussellDaytrade> well, began that trade too early.11:19
<NihabaAshi>  Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 786.80 --> 0
That's what happen when I do a "late entry" and lose my wiggle room to stay in the trade.
Pattern signal was @ 786.3011:20
<RussellDaytrade>  Long ER2 @ 787 «« paper »» 11:32
<Brutus> Who thinks LOD is in on ER?
<RussellDaytrade> if 785 breaks, down another buck and a half lower from there, +/-11:33
<john99> how goes the trading this morning11:34
<RussellDaytrade> if bad news of dollar breaking catches hold, selling may accelerate.

Exited all ER2 Long @ 787.5 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 11:35
<john99> Trend line down on er2 and nq, ym uptrend,,now sideways
expecting the friday chop to commence11:36
I hit some good #'s this morning and I'm done for the day.
<Brutus> Thats good john how did you do?11:38
<john99> about $350, got the second move down to the LOD, exited about 1pt to early11:39
about a break even week for me11:40
I was looking at yesterdays chart, and it was a mess
<Brutus> Least its a good finish :)
<RussellDaytrade>  Shorts ER2 @ 789.6 «« paper »» 12:09
Covered all ER2 Short @ 789.1 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 12:12
<NihabaAshi>  Long ER2 @ 789.00 -> small size 12:16

Ooopss

That's a short

Shorts ER2 @ 789.00 -> small size

2 contracts only12:17

Most likely my last trade of the day if I can get a few ticks.

I'm really not into trading today and just wanted to keep things on the light side (few contracts and few trades).12:18
<pat255> looks like niha ..usually u fire off a few in the am..12:24
<NihabaAshi> YM is helping keep ER2 from dropping a few ticks :(12:25
<yo> i see12:26
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<yo> maybe that 53 some res
<NihabaAshi>  Covered ER2 Short @ 789.20 --> - 0.2 12:29

Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 789.20
<pat255> looks like slow & painful12:30
moves
<NihabaAshi>  Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 789.70 --> + 0.5 12:33

I'm done for the day...had to sweat out that Long position.12:34

Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 790.30 --> + 1.1 12:35
<RussellDaytrade>  Shorts ER2 @ 790.3 «« paper »»
<pat255> vn niha ..

ty guys ..back to office ...have a nice weekend...
<NihabaAshi> I'm done for the day...take care all and have a good weekend.12:36
* NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away
<yo> same niha12:37
<RussellDaytrade>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 789.7 --> + 0.6 «« paper »» 12:39

model = down 3 in 45 from high, 787.5 +/-12:44

Shorts ER2 @ 790.1 «« paper »»

Covered all ER2 Short @ 789.4 --> + 0.7 «« paper »» 12:50
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY)13:38
<RussellDaytrade> it's about 10 minutes late, and a few ticks short, pretty close all in all.13:40
<Brutus> Goog to break $500 today?13:51
Good HOD 499.5
<pdays> .14:32
<RussellDaytrade>  Shorts ER2 @ 791.1 «« paper »» 14:48
Covered all ER2 Short @ 790.7 --> + 0.4 «« paper »» 14:49
  

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<RussellDaytrade> kinda a mini-setup, may pull back to 788 in 30 minutes.
that drop into 789.5 may have satisfied the pullback, unless this drop just now takes us down another notch. visually, look about right, (though i am openly hoping for the full thing!)15:26
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<yvberj> Sorry guys. Been hectic around here. Haven't been able to participate. See you all Mon.15:45
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY)16:02
* DisconnectedSession Close: Fri Nov 17 16:57:43 200616:57
  
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