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#FuturesTrades November 14th Friday 2008 Trade Log

 

Trade Posting Chat Log Info: My name is M.A. Perry (a.k.a. online as NihabaAshi - martial arts & Japanese Candlestick term) and I am the moderator of #FuturesTrades.

Simply, my job is to keep the peace and ensure #FuturesTrades is a useful community of traders from around the world that have gather in a virtual trading office.

In addition, I personally use the below chat log as feedback for critical trading information that's not available when I review my broker statements nor any statistical analysis of my trading.  To maintain the usefulness of the below chat log, all of my trades were posted in real-time within 5 seconds after entry or exit unless otherwise noted in the log. 

  To read behind the scenes details about my trades posted below such as explanation of position size, stop management, chart interval choice et cetera...click here.

Further, although I'm not familiar with the trade methods used by most members of #FuturesTrades, I use a rule based methodology (very objective) that involves price action only trading (no indicators). However, some of my trades are intuition via market experience in combo with many concepts from my rule based methodology.

  My own current performance record and broker profit/loss statement is posted at the bottom of today's log.

With that said, today's trade posting chat log is below and it contains trades posted in real-time by #FuturesTrades members including all of my own trades that were posted in real-time. 

Last of all, if you want the instructions for gaining access to our free #FuturesTrades chat room...click here.

   
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Time Zone Info Chat Log below is eastern standard time (est.) - New York City, U.S.A and/or Montréal, Canada time zone.
  
<@X>  #FuturesTrades Info ->  No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission.

More info at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm   

 
  
Session Start: Fri Nov 14 00:00:00 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades
<@X> 
#FuturesTrades Info -> Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades.09:00
<werner> gm all09:08
<rickf> gn09:11
<+rickf> gm
<drt> gm09:19
<+werner> gm rickf,drt09:21
<silo>  Long YM @ 8680 09:23
<ItalianSharp> morning all
<+silo> morning sharp09:26
<PapaJon> gm all09:27
<+silo>  Exited all YM Long @ 8671 --> - 9 09:28

Shorts YM @ 8744 09:48

Covered all YM Short @ 8756 --> - 12 09:49
<palmer> silo we should for break even after yesterday action
<+palmer> but what do i know
<szubaark>  Buys ES @ 902 «« paper »» 09:52
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8755 09:54

Covered all YM Short @ 8767 --> - 12 09:55
<+szubaark>  exit stop set ES @ 898.50 «« paper »»
tightening stop10:00
exit stop set ES @ 901 «« paper »»
turning into a creeper :(10:02
Exited all Long ES at 901.50 --> - 0.5 «« paper »»
Shorts ES @ 901.50 «« paper »» 10:03
<climber>  Long YM @ 8777 «« paper »»
<+climber>  Exited all YM Long @ 8747 --> - 30 «« paper »» 10:06
<+rickf> short es 897.5010:07

exit 93.50 +410:09
<pat255> vn
<+rickf> ty

i dragged my stop too far, but it worked in my favor
<+szubaark> nice rick10:10
<+rickf> ty
<+szubaark>  exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 901.50 «« paper »»
<+rickf> correction +4.5 on that ES10:14

dragged my stop down farther than i thought
<+szubaark> tightening stop
exit stop set ES @ 894.50 «« paper »» 10:15
tightening stop10:19
exit stop set ES @ 894 «« paper »»
tightening stop10:24
exit stop set ES @ 889.75 «« paper »»
Covered all Short ES at 889.75 --> + 11.75 «« paper »» 10:26
<+pat255> vn10:27
<+szubaark> thnx10:28
<+silo>  Long YM @ 8665 10:29
<+rickf> wtg
<+silo>  Exited YM Long @ 8660 --> - 5 10:31

Reverse and Enter Short YM @ 8660

Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8626 --> + 34 10:35

Covered Remainder YM Short @ 8612 --> + 48 10:38
<+szubaark> nice10:39
<+rickf> back in a bit - gym and lunch10:42
<+szubaark>  Shorts ES @ 878.75 «« paper »» 10:45
Covered all Short ES at 882.25 --> - 3.5 «« paper »» 10:48
Shorts ES @ 881 «« paper »» 11:00
exit stop set ES @ 883.75 «« paper »»
<+szubaark> tightening stop
exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 881 «« paper »»
Covered all Short ES at 881 --> 0 «« paper »» 11:08
Shorts ES @ 882.50 «« paper »» 11:25
<+silo>  Long YM @ 8597

211:26
<+szubaark>  exit stop set ES @ 886 «« paper »» 11:27
<+silo>  Exited all YM Long @ 8585 --> - 12 11:29
<+szubaark> tightening stop11:31
exit stop set ES @ 885.50 «« paper »»
tightening stop11:34
exit stop set ES @ 880.50 «« paper »»
Weak Support Area11:35
Covered all Short ES at 880.50 --> + 2 «« paper »» 11:36
Shorts ES @ 876 «« paper »» 11:41
exit stop set ES @ 878.50 «« paper »» 11:45
starting to lose intrest in this price Action11:47
Covered all Short ES at 878.50 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» 11:49
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8570 11:54

Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8541 --> + 29 11:58
<+szubaark>  Shorts ES @ 877 «« paper »»
<+silo>  Covered Remainder YM Short @ 8507 --> + 63 12:01
<+rickf> back12:04
<+szubaark> tightening stop

exit stop set ES @ 876.50 «« paper »»

tightening stop12:20

exit stop set ES @ 873.75 «« paper »»

Covered all Short ES at 873.50 --> + 3.5 «« paper »» 12:22

time for break, this TIGHT downward channel is no fun to trade LOL
* szubaark is now known as szubaark_away
<+rickf> we have the g20 meeting this weekend - i suspect there will be some major positioning going intot he close today perhaps more prononced than usual12:26

but then again 'usual' is pretty darn major anyway these days
<+palmer> niha away ?12:31
<+rickf> dunno12:32

taking lunch back in a bit12:33
<+pat255> have not seen him for 3 days now?
* codehead_afk is now known as codehead12:36
<+silo>  Long YM @ 8576 12:54
Exited all YM Long @ 8564 --> - 12
Long YM @ 8574 12:55
Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 8599 --> + 25 12:56
Exited Remainder YM Long @ 8574 --> 0 13:00
<@X>  #FuturesTrades Info ->  Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades.13:06
<nqcruiser> gm X
* szubaark_away is now known as szubaark13:23
<MK>  Long ES @ 884.25 «« paper »» 13:43
<+szubaark>  Shorts ES @ 881.75 «« paper »» 13:44
<+silo>  Long YM @ 8566 13:47
1
<+MK>  Long ES @ 879.25 -> Add «« paper »» 13:48
<+silo>  Long YM @ 8569 -> Add
<+szubaark>  exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 881 «« paper »» 13:49

keeping tight Stop on this.

Covered all Short ES at 881 --> + 0.75 «« paper »»
<+silo>  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 8594 --> + 25 13:50
<+szubaark>  Buys ES @ 886.50 «« paper »» 13:53
<+MK>  Exited all ES Long @ 886 --> + 8.5 «« paper »»
<+silo>  Exited Remainder YM Long @ 8637 --> + 71
<+MK>  Long ES @ 887 «« paper »» 13:55
<+szubaark>  exit stop set ES @ 882 «« paper »» 13:56

Exited all Long ES at 882 --> - 4.5 «« paper »» 14:01
<+MK>  Long ES @ 882.25 -> Add «« paper »»
<+szubaark>  Buys ES @ 889 «« paper »» 14:05
<+MK>  Exited all ES Long @ 889 --> + 8.75 «« paper »»
<+szubaark>  exit stop set ES @ 887 «« paper »» 14:10
<+MK>  Long ES @ 892.75 «« paper »» 14:17
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8752 14:21

1

picking top

Shorts YM @ 8746

2 now

Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8727 --> + 19 14:23

Covered Remainder YM Short @ 8748 --> - 2 14:24
<+MK>  Exited all ES Long @ 898.5 --> + 5.75 «« paper »»
<+szubaark>  exit stop set ES @ 895.50 «« paper »» 14:25
<+MK>  Shorts ES @ 901.75 «« paper »» 14:26
Covered all ES Short @ 898.25 --> + 3.5 «« paper »»
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8738 14:27

1
<+szubaark> Volatility Increasing14:28
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8732 -> Add
<+szubaark>  Exited all Long ES at 895.50 --> + 6.5 «« paper »»
<+MK>  Long ES @ 895.5 «« paper »» 14:29
<@X>  #FuturesTrades Info ->  No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission.

More info at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm   

 
<+silo>  Covered all YM Short @ 9735 --> - 2000 14:30
8735
<+szubaark> dang, how many contracts is that?
<+silo> 50000
<+szubaark> :p
<+MK>  Long ES @ 893 -> Add «« paper »» 14:36
Exited all ES Long @ 897.75 --> + 7 «« paper »» 14:38
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8731 14:39

1

Covered all YM Short @ 8748 --> - 17 14:40
<+szubaark>  Buys ES @ 905.25 «« paper »» 14:43
exit stop set ES @ 899.50 «« paper »» 14:50
exit stop set ES @ 900 «« paper »» 14:52
contracting Volatility,expecting spike soon, hopefully to upside,Im Long14:56
its Friday, lets see if they gonna Finish with a Bang and try to make Saturdays Headlines14:57
<+codehead> short 8830 YM <paper>

just 1c
<+szubaark> code, CCI possible 100 ZRL..strong uptrend14:58
<+codehead> yeah, actually doing it to keep me out of trading this late for real i think

jsut wanted to see if it's a scam to peak it at top of last hour14:59

wow, nice move

add 1c short 8880

<paper>
<+silo> gonna pick top soon15:00
<+szubaark> silo guru
<+codehead> 8933 a preavious peak
<+silo>  Shorts YM @ 8904 15:01

1

Shorts YM @ 8871

that's an add
<+codehead> looking to cover 8800
wave targets at 8795 and 879215:02
<+silo>  Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8856 --> + 15 15:03

Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 8856 --> + 15

damn it

the first short didn't get accounted in

it was an add in

oh well

more than +1515:04
<+szubaark>  Exited all Long ES at 908.25 --> + 3 «« paper »»
<+silo>  Covered Remainder YM Short @ 8839 --> + 32
<+szubaark> dont like these deep pullbacks
<pat255> VN
<+silo> the profit numbers are wrong 'cuz the second short was supposed to be an add
<+codehead> oops, posted wrong room15:06

+80 and +30 on 2c YM <paper>

filled at 8800 target mentioned previously

conservative target, but that was first bounce area15:07
<@X>  #FuturesTrades Info ->  Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades.15:12
<+codehead> potential ghost on 3 min Ym szu15:14

this bar will either be zlr up or ghost trigger on close15:15

protecting 890015:16
<+MK>  Shorts ES @ 914 «« paper »»
Covered all ES Short @ 911 --> + 3 «« paper »» 15:17
<+szubaark>  Shorts ES @ 907.50 «« paper »» 15:18
<+MK>  Long ES @ 903 «« paper »» 15:20
<+codehead> that ghost went15:21
<+MK>  Exited all ES Long @ 908.5 --> + 5.5 «« paper »» 15:24
<+szubaark>  Covered all Short ES at 908 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» 15:26

Shorts ES @ 901.75 «« paper »» 15:28

nothing like 3:30 Chop Suey15:30
<+codehead> got the famir/shamu after ghost, which is typical15:31
on 3 min
<+MK>  Long ES @ 901 «« paper »»
<+codehead> wave target at 8739
<+szubaark> code, i dont watch 3min, find too many False signals
<+MK>  Long ES @ 898.75 -> Add «« paper »» 15:32
Long ES @ 896.75 -> Add «« paper »»
<+codehead> i wqatch both--3 min can give a good indication of possible moves, helps in conjuction with other signals
<+MK>  Long ES @ 894 -> Add «« paper »»
<+szubaark> Volatility spike
<+MK>  Long ES @ 892.5 -> Add «« paper »»
<+codehead> like when it was retesting the highs but on the verge of triggering a ghost15:33
<+MK>  Long ES @ 890.25 -> Add «« paper »»
<+codehead> and it sold off 170+
<+MK>  Long ES @ 889.75 -> Add «« paper »» 15:34
<+szubaark> tightening stop15:38

exit stop set ES @ 896 «« paper »»
<+MK>  Long ES @ 885.75 -> Add «« paper »» 15:43
<+szubaark> tightening stop15:46

exit stop set ES @ 894.50 «« paper »»

approachibg 4pm, will exit soon15:50

tightening stop

exit stop set ES @ 894.25 «« paper »»

tightening stop15:54

exit stop set ES @ 893.25 «« paper »»

Will exit this trade in 5 minutes
<+MK>  Long ES @ 882.75 -> Add «« paper »» 15:55
Long ES @ 876.25 -> Add «« paper »» 15:57
<+palmer> mk wow15:59
<+szubaark>  Covered all Short ES at 870 --> + 31.75 «« paper »»
<+codehead> long 8460 YM <paper>

crazy
<+szubaark> Excellent Volatility for a Friday16:00
<+codehead> man, that ghost was golden16:01
<+MK>  Long ES @ 869 -> Add «« paper »»
Long ES @ 866.5 -> Add «« paper »»
<+ItalianSharp> szu, you sick bastid...

:)
<+szubaark> man, we had downtrend, then uptrend, and downtrend CRAZY STUFF folks16:02
Italian, i need these points LOL
<+MK> holding 12-see all monday16:03
<+szubaark> MK, dont lose too much sleep LOL16:04
<+silo> ahahaha szu16:05

:)16:06

that must be a record

AHAHHAHAAH :)

good shit

good t hing you're both paper trading :)

so one wont try to kill the other
<+werner> good wk all16:12
<+climber> nice wk all16:15
 <@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades.17:15
  
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 Trading Strategies ->   Strategies used by NihabaAshi, from entry to exit, exploit inefficiencies in the price action for profits of the following trading instruments via WRB Analysis and Intermarket Analysis: Emini Index Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), COMEX Metals Futures (GC), Forex Currencies (EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCdn), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, XLE) and Hang Seng Index Futures (HSI)   

   

 

Current Performance Record of M.A. Perry

No trades due day to personal reasons  

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Today

Month

 

 

 

Emini ES points

+0.00

+316.75

 U.S. Dollars

$0

$15,837.50

 

We are proud to say that our chat room members are from the following geographical areas in the world:

Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong (China), Italy, Japan, Mexico, Portugal, Puerto Rico (U.S.), Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Spain, United States and Venezuela.

In addition, below are the trading instruments our chat room members monitor closely to make trade decisions:  

CME Emini Futures EMD, ES and NQ   

ICE Emini TF (formerly CME ER2)

CBOT mini-sized Dow Futures YM

Eurex Index Derivatives (futures) DAX and DJ Euro Stoxx50

Eurex Fixed Income Derivatives BUND, BOBL and Schatz

Euronext Futures FTSE-100 and CAC-40

CME Futures EuroFX EC

Treasury Futures T-Notes ZN, ZF and T-Bonds ZB

Forex Currencies EurUsd, EurYen and UsdCdn

Exchange Traded Funds DIA, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, OIH, XLE and GLD  

NYMEX Energies Light Crude Oil CL, e-miNY QM and Natural Gas NG

COMEX Metals Gold GC and ZG

Hang Seng Index Futures HSI

Last of all, if you have any questions about any of the above commentary, specific trades et cetera...

Don't hesitate to ask your questions and we'll reply back as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

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