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| Session Start: Mon Nov 05 09:34:05 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 09:34 |
<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 790.00 -> large size | 09:35 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1499.75 | 09:36 |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1501.75 --> + 2 | 09:37 |
<pat255> | hi all em.. |
<eminitrader> | morn pat |
<pat255> | no see u last few days |
<eminitrader> | was trading but not logged on ..have broadband issues :( | 09:38 |
<pat255> | k.. |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1501.25 --> + 1.5 | 09:39 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 789.70 --> + 0.3 |
| Too hot for even me to hold :) |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1502.75 --> + 3 | 09:40 |
<pat255> | hmmm @office ..:( |
| need to be careful |
<Nesi> | Shorts ER2 @ 790.50 «« Scalp »» | 09:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | no fill...price drop snuck right by me :( | 09:45 |
<Nesi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 790 --> - 0.5 «« Scalp »» | 09:46 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 790 «« Scalp »» |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1503.75 |
<Nesi> | mistake again |
| wrong post |
<Brutus> | caref43 72 as2 | 09:47 |
| 7k ask |
<Nesi> | Long ER2 @ 790.50 «« Scalp »» | 09:48 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1503.25 «« paper »» | 09:49 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1504.25 | 09:50 |
<NihabaAshi> | geeesh...crazy price action so far in ER2 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1501.75 --> + 2 |
<Nesi> | very |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1501.25 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 09:51 |
<Nesi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 789.50 --> - 10.3 «« Scalp »» |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1503.75 |
<NihabaAshi> | DAX looks like its just sitting in a chair taking it easy :) | 09:52 |
| Finally, first serious volatility decline of the morning... | 09:54 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. |
<Nesi> | thx | 09:55 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1503.25 --> 0 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1503.75 --> 0 |
<Nesi> | Long ER2 @ 789.70 «« Scalp »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 789.80 -> medium size |
| wow | 09:57 |
| something is up in the market to make it this jittery. |
<Nesi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 791 --> + 1.3 «« Scalp »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 3/4 ER2 Long @ 792.50 --> + 2.7 | 10:00 |
<Nesi> | vn |
<NihabaAshi> | I didn't know which way (up or down) the volatility spike was going to take price so I put in a buy order at 789.80 because other key markets was starting to make some higher lows. | 10:02 |
<Nesi> | medium size for you is how many c ? | 10:03 |
<NihabaAshi> | Depends of the trading day but today it was just 4 contracts |
<Nesi> | thx |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 793.10 --> + 3.3 | 10:05 |
<Nesi> | you already in your tgt :) |
<NihabaAshi> | 792.50 was my primary target | 10:06 |
| There's an s/r zone in that area of 792.50 | 10:07 |
| volatility now stabilizing enough where things are much smoother in the price action. | 10:08 |
<Nesi> | short oil 94.50 1c | 10:09 |
| 94.05 |
<werner> | mm ts props? | 10:10 |
| ts down here | 10:11 |
<ItalianSharp> | working fine here werner |
<werner> | tx IS | 10:12 |
<pdays> | Here too |
<werner> | tx |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1505.50 «« paper »» | 10:17 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1504 | 10:18 |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1505.50 «« paper »» | 10:19 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 790.20 -> small size | 10:20 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1505.50 --> 0 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1505.50 --> + 1.5 |
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<Tim_a> | lice long call e | 10:23 |
| nice |
<eminitrader> | thx t |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 791.30 --> + 1.1 | 10:24 |
<eminitrader> | 1505.50 - 1503.50 ...was buy area... |
| missed a add @ 1503 area.. |
| wld have been loaded for the potential gap fill |
| Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1507 --> + 3 | 10:25 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1507 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | es needs to clear 1509 and nq 2219 ...for it to get the bulls going | 10:27 |
<szubaark> | 1511 is last swing high, so watching that as resistance |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1508 --> + 4 | 10:28 |
| yep ..1st level res @ 1508-09 | 10:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | punks |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1505 --> - 2 «« paper »» | 10:30 |
| Shorts ES @ 1505 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 790.40 --> + 0.2 |
<eminitrader> | might try to test that level again if 1503 supp holds |
<NihabaAshi> | It came fast back down to that s/r zone I've been exploiting. |
| Long ER2 @ 790.70 -> small size | 10:31 |
<szubaark> | expecting volatility spike here, hopefully to downside, im Short |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1506.50 | 10:34 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 791.80 --> + 1.1 |
| I reached my profit goal for the day from the prior trade. | 10:35 |
| This last trade was like icing on the cake. |
| Thus, I'm officially in profit protection mode. | 10:36 |
| 1 contract only for the remainder of the trading day. |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1509 --> + 2.5 |
<szubaark> | Volatility spike went against me :(( |
| Covered all Short ES at 1510 --> - 5 «« paper »» | 10:38 |
| :(( |
<eminitrader> | nq stalling right @ res | 10:40 |
<Brutus> | yep |
<eminitrader> | prolly see a small pillback ..before the retest |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1506.50 | 10:41 |
| Exited ES Long @ 1510.50 --> + 4 | 10:43 |
| holding 3 for gap fill... |
<Brutus> | good trade e |
<eminitrader> | thx B |
<pat255> | nice read em |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 794.70 -> small size | 10:44 |
| Market breadth support |
<eminitrader> | thx pat...yep pa was giving good direction of the mrkt flow after the first half hr |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 795..90 --> + 795..90 - 794.70 | 10:45 |
| ooops |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 795.90 --> + 1.2 |
<eminitrader> | k guys...long trend for now confirmed... |
| if u want to enter long on the pullback ...high probability of gap fill...stop 1503.25..breks that all bets are off..i will be looking to add around 1504.50 - 1505-50 if it gets thre | 10:47 |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 794.7 | 10:48 |
<eminitrader> | be back |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1510.25 «« paper »» | 10:50 |
<Guest35179> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 793.8 --> + 0.9 | 10:51 |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1508.50 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 11:00 |
<pat255> | later guys | 11:02 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1510.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 11:06 |
| Buys ES @ 1509 «« paper »» | 11:14 |
<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 793 | 11:24 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 791.4 --> - 1.6 | 11:32 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 791 | 11:36 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 790.5 --> + 0.5 | 11:40 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 792.4 | 11:42 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 793.1 --> - 0.7 | 11:46 |
<szubaark> | nice volatility to the upside | 11:48 |
| hi goodmood | 11:50 |
<GoodMood> | hi szu |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:57 |
<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 793.5 | 12:01 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 791.8 --> - 1.7 | 12:04 |
| Long ER2 @ 790.9 | 12:08 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 790.40 -> small size |
| Dark Hammer Line trying to form | 12:09 |
| I need to be careful here |
<Nesi> | oil near day high |
| gold too |
<Guest35179> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 792.1 --> + 1.2 |
<NihabaAshi> | ooops | 12:10 |
| It's 791.40 and not 790.40 |
| That 0 snuck in there some how | 12:11 |
<Nesi> | oil high |
<NihabaAshi> | correcting |
| Shorts ER2 @ 791.40 -> small size | 12:12 |
| Looks like I can cover at 790.40 :) |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 790.30 --> + 1.1 | 12:13 |
| That's a 2min Dark WRB interval. | 12:14 |
| Lets see if it sets up any contracting volatility |
<Guest35179> | Long ER2 @ 790.2 | 12:16 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 790.9 --> + 0.7 | 12:20 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1505.50 --> - 3.5 «« paper »» | 12:24 |
| weird Price Action |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 789.5 | 12:25 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 789.40 -> small size |
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<NihabaAshi> | Starting to look like a volatility fade | 12:26 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 789.60 --> - 0.2 | 12:28 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 789.60 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1506 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | mrkt flow now indicating a test of lows with the brek of 1505.50trend |
| possible entry areas 1508-1510 | 12:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 790.00 --> + 0.4 |
<eminitrader> | with this trend change lower probability of new highs and higher probability of new lows... | 12:30 |
<NihabaAshi> | Starting turning into contracting volatility again. |
<eminitrader> | key support for the uptrend to hold changed from 1503.25 to 1505.50 with the retest of highs @ 11:45 est | 12:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 790.10 -> small size | 12:32 |
| Should be a good battle here in this s/r zone | 12:33 |
<Guest35179> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 790.1 --> - 0.6 |
<szubaark> | yes, this is the Chop zone from early this morning |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 791.50 --> + 1.4 | 12:35 |
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<szubaark> | Niha that was quick | 12:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yeah |
<GoodMood> | Kick it like Beckham - Trade it like Niha ! |
<NihabaAshi> | I like it when I go into a trade to keep it for awhile but I reach a profit target much faster than I expected. |
| Makes it look like a "scalp" even though I'm not a scalper nor do I have the proper system setup for scalping. | 12:37 |
<szubaark> | Exited 1/2 Long ES at 1508 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 12:39 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1506 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | :) |
<szubaark> | no battle so far in this prior S/R zone | 12:41 |
| looks like taking out Stops at last swing low was what they wanted |
| Volatility contracting, expecting Volatility spike soon, hopefully to upside | 12:45 |
<ItalianSharp> | krozner is due to speak at 1pm...just a reminder | 12:52 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1506 --> 0 «« paper »» | 12:53 |
| :(, spike did not go my way |
<NihabaAshi> | Good price area for the market to attempt a price rise | 13:01 |
| I missed the boat around 792.50 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1508.75 «« paper »» | 13:02 |
| chasing here |
<eminitrader> | is anyone short from the 1508-1510 area ? | 13:19 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1504] --> - 4.75 «« paper »» |
| stupid trade |
<eminitrader> | that was against the flow szu :( | 13:20 |
<szubaark> | yeah im having difficulty as always trading these Tight, Range days.. keep getting whacked and lose my discipline |
<eminitrader> | yep days like these are tough to trade ..gotto be careful | 13:21 |
| see a possible entry to the sell side @ around 1507-1508 with stop @ 1510 szu | 13:22 |
| done for the day holding 2 for test of lows...good trading all | 13:23 |
* Stowe | long ym 13528 |
| adds to long ym 13524 | 13:24 |
| adds to long ym 13525 |
| adds to long ym 13526 | 13:25 |
| adds to long ym 13529 | 13:26 |
<ItalianSharp> | true...although ES range is very tradable...over 10 pts, which is not that bad | 13:27 |
| YM with almost a 100-pt range today...agree it's mainly chop, but still...it provides decent room for some good trades |
| I have problems trading YM when its range is below 65-60 pts | 13:28 |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13527 | 13:29 |
| adds to long ym 13530 | 13:31 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1503.75 «« paper »» | 13:35 |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13518 | 13:39 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1503.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:40 |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13526 | 13:41 |
* szubaark | is now known as szubaark_away |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 790.80 -> small size | 13:42 |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13511 | 13:43 |
<NihabaAshi> | I hate these types of trades that quickly go 2 - 5 ticks against me within seconds after entry :( |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13509 | 13:44 |
<ItalianSharp> | true...they give you no time to prepare a back-up plan |
<NihabaAshi> | weak support area here. | 13:46 |
| Hopefully it holds |
| Market Breadth no looking to hot but Oil and Gold not breaking down. | 13:47 |
| Simply, I still have a chance to exit this trade at a profit. |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13504 | 13:49 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 789.50 --> - 1.3 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 789.50 |
| Gold and Oil breaking down |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13493 |
| adds to long ym 13488 | 13:50 |
| adds to long ym 13484 | 13:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 786.90 --> + 2.6 | 13:55 |
<ItalianSharp> | nice reversal niha |
| twice as big as the prior loser...really nice |
<NihabaAshi> | I had a lot of help via "intermarket analysis" of other key markets :) |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13480 |
<Stowe> | well it was worth about the same as getting 45 ym points niha...a good trade | 13:56 |
<NihabaAshi> | thanks | 13:57 |
<Stowe> | if my calculations are right |
* Stowe | adds to long ym 13481 | 13:58 |
| adds to long ym 13490 | 14:00 |
| adds to long ym 13496 | 14:03 |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 788 | 14:26 |
<werner> | ben al stopt |
| ow sorry wrong window |
<Guest35179> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 787.4 --> + 0.6 | 14:27 |
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<Brutus> | thats the oct 22nd low on ES | 14:36 |
| 11/05/2007 14:35 *DJ OIL FUTURES: Nymex Crude Ends Down $1.87 At $94.06 | 14:38 |
<Stowe> | 13547 ym should be a reasonable target | 14:52 |
<GoodMood> | . |
<Stowe> | .. | 15:09 |
<Guest35179> | was there some news? | 15:13 |
* Stowe | sells some ym 13570 +42,+46,+45,+44,+41,+43,+40 from 13530 to 13524 longs | 15:15 |
<Stowe> | yeah...the news was...they wanted to ramp it |
* Stowe | sells more ym 13588 +70,+77,+79,+84,+95 from 13518 to 13493 longs | 15:20 |
<pat255> | vn stowe... | 15:21 |
| stuck @office today...:( |
* Stowe | sells remaining ym 13601 +113,+117,+121,+120,+111,+105 from 13480 to 13496 longs | 15:22 |
<Stowe> | thanks pat | 15:23 |
<Tim_a> | vn stowe |
<pat255> | great system u have plus guts to go for it |
<Stowe> | last part of that statement is correct | 15:24 |
<pat255> | :) |
<Stowe> | although sometimes no amount of guts works |
<pat255> | true... |
<Stowe> | at which time i get slaughtered |
| interesting "news" | 15:25 |
| lol |
<Tim_a> | news? |
<Stowe> | maybe pisani said, "the market internals are good" |
<Tim_a> | all i see is a test of the 20 week ma on spx and indu | 15:26 |
<Stowe> | yeah at 12pm the news was "they wanted to tank it |
| yeah at 2:40pm the news was "they wanted to ramp it |
<ItalianSharp> | Market rallying on rumor of emergency rate cut |
<Stowe> | emergency healthcare? | 15:27 |
| for illegals? |
<Tim_a> | rumor right at the 20 ma, how convinient |
| 20 week ma | 15:28 |
<Stowe> | as if another rate cuts would do anything |
| why not cut it to zero? |
| then we could bubble housing again | 15:29 |
<Tim_a> | meth doesnt help junkies, but they still go for it |
* Stowe | short ym 13601 | 15:31 |
| adds to short ym 13600 | 15:32 |
<Tim_a> | roday's chart goes to show that anything can happen at any time |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13603 |
| adds to short ym 13608 | 15:33 |
| adds to short ym 13614 | 15:34 |
| adds to short ym 13618 | 15:35 |
| adds to short ym 13625 |
| adds to short ym 13635 | 15:36 |
| adds to short ym 13624 |
| adds to short ym 13619 | 15:37 |
| covers some ym 13575 to 13578 +26,+25,+28,+30,+36,+43,+50,+57,+49,+41 from 13600 to 13635 shorts | 15:46 |
<Tim_a> | if you dont mind my asking stoew, what signaled your ym short (nice call) | 15:48 |
* Stowe | covers remaining ym 13585 to 13587 +16,+13,+18,+27,+33 from 13600 to 13635 shorts | 15:49 |
<Stowe> | it was insanity to the upside and i thought it was too high |
| there's no signal fast enough for that |
| if you wait...it's gone | 15:50 |
<Tim_a> | the 2nd to last ym bar looked like stall, but you were already in |
<Stowe> | there are no "indicators" that look forward |
| that's why there's no such thing as a "forward-view mirror" in your car | 15:51 |
| all you can do is look with your eyes |
<Tim_a> | i dont use indicators, other than minding major ma, and agree completley that indicators hoplessly lag, put pa can sometimes look like a stall or reversal | 15:52 |
| 'but pa' |
<Stowe> | there are good reasons for resist/support |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 795 |
<Stowe> | and those make for good targets and stops |
| but other than scaling into a move, there's nothing you can | 15:53 |
| so take those "indicators" and stick them in the trash |
| but other than scaling into a move, there's nothing you can do |
<cmr> | What timeframe are you using Stowe ? | 15:54 |
<Tim_a> | today's support & resist looks like 20 week ma's, and the top of the gap |
<Stowe> | i like 10 min. |
| although i use 5 and 1 | 15:55 |
<cmr> | So, "instintive" trades ? |
<Stowe> | ofc |
| never let your indicators tell you not to trade when you actually want to | 15:56 |
<Guest35179> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 794.5 --> + 0.5 |
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<Stowe> | indicators are for those who want to say "whew!" to themselves cause they're too chicken to enter |
<Guest35179> | Shorts ER2 @ 793.9 | 15:58 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 792.9 --> + 1 | 15:59 |
| Long ER2 @ 792 | 16:00 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== |
| DJIA down 31.95 points to 13562.18 |
| NASDAQ down 11.12 points to 2799.69 |
| S&P 500 down 4.97 points to 1504.79 |
| 10-year T-note down 2/32 at 103 10/32 yield 4.329 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude down $1.95 at $93.98/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro up 0.0012 at 1.4470 | 16:01 |
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<Guest35179> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 791.6 --> - 0.4 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm curious to see if ER2 closes the trading day within that key s/r zone from this morning 791.60 - 788.50 | 16:10 |
<werner> | gn all | 16:26 |
<NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all tomorrow | 16:31 |
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* DisconnectedSession | Close: Mon Nov 05 16:39:33 2007 | 16:39 |
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