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| Session Start: Tue Nov 04 00:00:00 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
<werner> | gm all | 08:05 |
<futurible> | gm all | 08:14 |
<Kalle> | gm | 08:22 |
<Maximus> | gm all | 08:44 |
<PapaJon> | gm allSession Close: Tue Nov 04 09:17:17 2008 | 09:17 |
| Session Start: Tue Nov 04 09:17:17 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Tue Nov 04 09:17:18 2008 |
| Session Start: Tue Nov 04 09:24:24 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 09:24 |
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<werner> | gm all | 09:26 |
<futurible> | gm all |
<drt> | gm | 09:29 |
<LumenPharmer> | make some money then go vote ;) | 09:30 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ES @ 985.75 -> small size | 09:31 |
| 3 only |
| Covered all ES Short @ 984.50 --> + 1.25 | 09:33 |
| Long ES @ 986.75 -> large size | 09:37 |
| 6 only | 09:38 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 985.25 «« paper »» | 09:39 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 983.50 --> - 3.25 | 09:41 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 982.50 --> + 2.75 «« paper »» |
<pat255> | gm all | 09:47 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ES @ 983.75 -> small size |
| 3 only |
<+pat255> | @office ;( |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ES Short @ 984.25 --> - 0.5 | 09:48 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 985.50 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 984.75 -> large size |
| 6 only |
<+szubaark> | exit stop set ES @ 982.50 «« paper »» | 09:49 |
<silo> | i'm guessing volume will be low todya due to election | 09:51 |
<+szubaark> | tightening stop |
| exit stop set ES @ 983 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 985.50 --> + 0.75 | 09:52 |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 9455 | 09:54 |
| 2 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 984.25 -> large size |
| 6 only |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 983 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» |
<+silo> | support here though... needs to break through | 09:55 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 982.50 «« paper »» |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 9432 --> + 23 | 09:57 |
<rickf> | gm | 09:58 |
<werner> | hi rickf |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 981.25 --> - 3 |
<ItalianSharp> | nasdaq looking real bearish | 09:59 |
<+ItalianSharp> | taking down all other eminis |
<+Maximus> | TF too |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 982.50 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:01 |
| Shorts ES @ 982.50 «« paper »» |
| Covered all Short ES at 982 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 10:04 |
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<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 983.00 -> large size | 10:05 |
| 10 only |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 982.25 «« paper »» | 10:07 |
| Covered all Short ES at 984 --> - 1.75 «« paper »» | 10:08 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 983.25 --> + 0.25 |
<+szubaark> | :( | 10:09 |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 9430 |
| 2 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Price action hit a WALL |
<+ItalianSharp> | looks like it wants up but lots of resistance left |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 9437 --> - 7 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 984.25 «« paper »» |
<+ItalianSharp> | need to clear this 985 area |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 983.75 -> large size | 10:10 |
| 6 only |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 984.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:11 |
| Shorts ES @ 985.25 «« paper »» | 10:12 |
<+ItalianSharp> | there still are lots of buyers, dont get tricked by the downmove off the open | 10:13 |
| i am still slightly bullish for now | 10:14 |
<trader0101> | buy limit to enter long ES @ 986.50 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 986.25 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:15 |
| Buys ES @ 986.25 «« paper »» |
| Exited all Long ES at 985.25 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:16 |
| Shorts ES @ 985.25 «« paper »» |
| slow,creeper range | 10:19 |
| Covered all Short ES at 989.25 --> - 4 «« paper »» |
| :(((((((( |
| Buys ES @ 989.25 «« paper »» |
<+trader0101> | exit stop moved to breakeven (+1 tick) ES @ 986.50 «« paper »» | 10:20 |
<+szubaark> | gonna hold thru this retrace, im BULLISH now | 10:21 |
<Nesi> | nice :) |
<+trader0101> | exit stop raised ES @ 988.25 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 990.00 --> + 6.25 | 10:23 |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 9492 | 10:24 |
| 2 |
<+szubaark> | silo Fade | 10:25 |
| Exited all Long ES at 989.75 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 989.25 «« paper »» | 10:26 |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 9500 --> - 8 | 10:28 |
<+trader0101> | exit stop raised ES @ 990.50 «« paper »» | 10:29 |
<+silo> | Long YM @ 9505 |
| 2 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 992.75 --> - 3.5 «« paper »» |
| :((((((( |
| Buys ES @ 992.75 «« paper »» |
| Go!!!!!!!!!! |
<+silo> | exit stop set YM @ 9505 | 10:31 |
| Exited all YM Long @ 9505 --> 0 |
<+szubaark> | im having BAD start to this month.. Volatility died |
| c'mon lets creep this tp upside 50+ Points til everyone falls asleep LOOOL | 10:32 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 994.00 -> small size | 10:34 |
| 3 only |
<+trader0101> | exit stop raised ES @ 992.00 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 995 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 10:35 |
| Shorts ES @ 994.75 «« paper »» |
<+trader0101> | exit stop raised ES @ 994.00 «« paper »» | 10:38 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 996.75 --> + 2.75 |
<+trader0101> | Exited all ES Long @ 994 --> + 7.5 «« paper »» | 10:41 |
<+silo> | brb have to restart | 10:43 |
<+ItalianSharp> | dontrading1 |
| szu | 10:44 |
| volatility died when the vix dropped below 60 |
| IMO, we may get a lot more of these weeks |
| i am not sure we'll see vix above 80 again in the next decade |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 10:45 |
<+ItalianSharp> | hence...we got to get used to normal volatility again |
| still...today's volatility is VERY HIGH compared to 2006 | 10:46 |
| ES just put up a 16pt rally since the drop off the open |
| you didnt get to see this type of moves back in 2006 |
<+rickf> | Sheesh VIX is down to 46 .... remember when over 30 was armageddon? | 10:47 |
<+ItalianSharp> | rick, exactly |
| now everyone is freaking out about a dead market...i dont think this market is dead at all |
<+rickf> | for futures the volatility was handy i think | 10:48 |
<+ItalianSharp> | what we experienced in the first half of october is something that will finish in history books and sit there for another 50 years at least |
<+rickf> | but for equities? kiss of death |
<+ItalianSharp> | last night i read a really interesting article about october volatility, the essence of it is: | 10:49 |
<+trader0101> | Italian, you start sounding like a guru ;) |
<+ItalianSharp> | they counted the # of days that closed +/- 4% or more |
| trader101, i like economics and i like to know what's going on...nothing to do with trading | 10:50 |
| anyways...let me finish |
| in the infamous 1987 crash...we had 3 of such days |
| in 1929, we had 5 of such days | 10:52 |
| in 2008, we had 9!!! |
<+trader0101> | buy limit to enter long ES @ 999.25 «« paper »» |
<+rickf> | we trade in interesting times | 10:53 |
<+ItalianSharp> | 9 days where the markets had a close of 4% or more |
| that's an all-time record | 10:54 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 999.50 -> small size |
| 2 only |
<+ItalianSharp> | basically....whoever is certain that type of volatility will stay thoroughout the bear market will likely be disappointed |
| ok, i am done with economics...time to think about making some money if-when we get a retracement | 10:55 |
<+trader0101> | 1000 !!!!!!!!!!!1 |
<+ItalianSharp> | yes, funny to see ES back into 3 figures | 10:56 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 998.25 --> - 1.25 |
| costly trade error :( |
<trader0101> | lost internet, again!!!!!!!1 | 10:57 |
<+trader0101> | trade out at -1.25 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 999.00 -> small size | 10:59 |
| 3 only |
| Exited all ES Long @ 998.50 --> - 0.5 | 11:00 |
| ooops |
| Exited all ES Long @ 999.50 --> + 0.5 |
<+trader0101> | Shorts ES @ 1001.50 «« paper »» | 11:11 |
<@NihabaAshi> | weak support here for eS | 11:14 |
<+trader0101> | Covered all ES Short @ 1001.25 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» |
| too many buyers on the dom | 11:15 |
<silo> | back | 11:19 |
<+silo> | had to fix some computer issues |
| looks like i didn't miss much | 11:20 |
| no entries |
| ;) |
<+codehead> | on pb, 9506-9508 has potential for long entry on YM | 11:22 |
| wave target and .500 |
| retracement |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 9575 | 11:30 |
| 2 |
<+trader0101> | codehead - whats pb? | 11:36 |
<palmer> | KN still on vacation? |
<nqcruiser> | hi folks | 11:37 |
<+werner> | trader ....i think pb=pull back |
<+silo> | Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 9550 --> + 25 | 11:40 |
<+trader0101> | thx werner |
<oktoeight> | Long ES @ 1002.5 | 11:50 |
<+silo> | Covered Remainder YM Short @ 9587 --> - 12 | 11:51 |
<+oktoeight> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1003.5 --> + 1 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1002.5 | 11:52 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1004 --> + 1.5 | 11:53 |
<+szubaark> | they should start retracing some of this upcreep | 11:54 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ES @ 1000.25 -> small size | 12:08 |
| 2 only |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. | 12:10 |
<@NihabaAshi> | volatility increasing | 12:11 |
<+codehead> | crude 70.325 | 12:13 |
| was 8 point lower when i went to bed last night |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 9564 | 12:17 |
| 2 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ES Short @ 999.75 --> + 0.5 | 12:19 |
| :( |
<+szubaark> | not going anywhere fast |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 9571 --> - 7 | 12:21 |
<+Kalle> | why sad? $50 pay for dinner, Niha |
<+silo> | risk/reward | 12:23 |
| unless you have no losing trades ... +0.5 would be wonderful |
<+szubaark> | ES needs to break this 1000 level for more of a pullback | 12:25 |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 9576 | 12:26 |
| 2 |
<+ItalianSharp> | anyone using volumes in their trading? volume must be real lows, right? |
| markets look DEAD right now |
<+szubaark> | yea, scared to go Long or Short now | 12:27 |
<+ItalianSharp> | quick profits and small size required to trade this right now | 12:28 |
| always tough to trade tight ranges |
| it's the first time I am watching YM stuck in a 50pt range for many months | 12:29 |
| feels weird |
| :) |
<+silo> | yeah |
| that's something i wasn't prepared for when volatility suddenly changed this past week or so |
| :\ |
<+szubaark> | this Volatility Drop has caught me off guard as well, still trying to adjust | 12:30 |
| and it shows, going in on 2nd losing day this week |
| thats why this is Survival of the Fittest | 12:31 |
<@X> |
#FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission.
More info at
http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm
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<+ItalianSharp> | there is no volume in this selling...we should still move higher today | 12:32 |
<+silo> | lack of volume is less important for shorts | 12:33 |
<intowin> | 10 yr tbond not agreeing with another up day in equities. buying sds may be in order |
<+szubaark> | its like i can deal with a Southpaw, its the unorthodox fighter thats giving me all kinds of problems |
<+silo> | since stocks or futures could go lower without volume |
| however they need buyers to go higher |
| this just means lack of buyers here |
| until we hit an area where buyers are willing to jump in |
| so we could still go lower with low volume |
| but for it to go higher we need volume |
| Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 9556 --> + 20 | 12:34 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ES @ 997.75 -> small size | 12:42 |
| 3 only |
| Covered all ES Short @ 997.00 --> + 0.75 | 12:45 |
| Back to back trades I got easily spooked out of :( |
| Be back later...going to get some rest. | 12:46 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<silo> | i'm back | 13:01 |
<+silo> | internet went down |
| Shorts YM @ 9553 -> Add | 13:09 |
| Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 9564 --> - 11 | 13:19 |
| freaking internet | 13:23 |
| keep getting disconnected |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1002 --> - 7.25 «« paper »» | 13:51 |
| Buys ES @ 1001.75 «« paper »» |
| big down day for me already :(( | 13:52 |
| c'mon lets go to 1020! | 13:54 |
* Tintin | : hi all | 13:57 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 996.75 --> - 5 «« paper »» | 14:04 |
| :((( |
| Shorts ES @ 996.75 «« paper »» |
| TANK!!!! |
<+silo> | szu, you're quite the mavrick today | 14:05 |
| :) |
<+szubaark> | frikin not going anywhere, just teasing |
| hope it tanks 30+ Points, so i can go Plus for day | 14:06 |
| the bounce off 996 for just Fake | 14:07 |
| now we got Double Top and Gap below :)))) |
<+silo> | Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 9509 --> + 67 | 14:08 |
<+szubaark> | nice, you didnt let them shake you out |
<+silo> | Long YM @ 9504 | 14:10 |
| 2 |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades. | 14:13 |
<+silo> | Exited all YM Long @ 9505 --> + 1 | 14:15 |
| Shorts YM @ 9588 | 14:16 |
| 2 |
| Covered all YM Short @ 9512 --> + 76 | 14:26 |
| hmm that's not right | 14:27 |
| typed the entry wrong |
| gonna call it quits today. boring market... | 14:28 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 996.50 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» | 14:32 |
| Buys ES @ 996.75 «« paper »» |
| uh huh | 14:33 |
| Exited all Long ES at 994.25 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 994.25 «« paper »» | 14:34 |
| last trade, had enough of this |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 14:45 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ES @ 989.00 -> small size | 15:10 |
| 3 only |
| Covered all ES Short @ 991.00 --> - 2 | 15:13 |
| Long ES @ 992.25 -> medium size | 15:14 |
| 4 only |
| Exited all ES Long @ 992.75 --> + 0.5 | 15:17 |
<tomis170> | Long ES @ 992 «« paper »» | 15:19 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 992.50 -> medium size |
| 4 only |
<MK> | Long ES @ 993.25 «« paper »» | 15:20 |
<@NihabaAshi> | too personal |
| :( |
<+szubaark> | hard to keep cool with this type of action | 15:21 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 990.75 --> - 1.75 | 15:22 |
<+tomis170> | Exited all ES Long @ 992 --> 0 «« paper »» | 15:24 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 992.75 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 993.75 «« paper »» | 15:25 |
<+MK> | Long ES @ 993.75 -> Add «« paper »» | 15:26 |
* +Tintin | ----[ shorts tf @ 538.8 ]---- | 15:27 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 993 --> - 0.75 «« paper »» |
| Shorts ES @ 993 «« paper »» |
| exit stop set ES @ 995.75 «« paper »» | 15:30 |
| Covered all Short ES at 995.75 --> - 2.75 «« paper »» | 15:32 |
| im done cant trade this creeper crap |
* szubaark | is now known as szubaark_away |
<+MK> | Exited all ES Long @ 997 --> + 7 «« paper »» | 15:34 |
* +Tintin | ----[ shorts tf @ 540.6 avg in ]---- | 15:35 |
| ----[ shorts ym @ 9559 ]---- | 15:37 |
| ----[ shorts es @ 999.25 ]---- |
<@NihabaAshi> | Long ES @ 999.00 -> large size |
| 5 only |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1000.25 --> + 1.25 | 15:43 |
* +Tintin | ----[ covers ym @ 9579 -20 ]---- | 15:44 |
| ----[ covers es @ 1001.25 -1 ]---- |
| ----[ covers tf @ 543.6 -3 ]---- | 15:45 |
| : oops covers es -2 not -1 |
<@NihabaAshi> | No retracements on the way up...just tight pin ball machine like price action | 15:47 |
| Long ES @ 1005.75 -> medium size | 15:48 |
| 4 only |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1003.75 --> - 2 | 15:50 |
<+MK> | Shorts ES @ 1001 «« paper »» | 15:51 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ES @ 1001.25 -> medium size |
<+MK> | Covered all ES Short @ 996.75 --> + 4.25 «« paper »» | 15:53 |
<@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ES Short @ 998.00 --> + 3.25 | 15:54 |
| Long ES @ 1003.50 -> medium size | 15:57 |
<+ItalianSharp> | if this last drop was a weak long shakeout, they did a nice job |
| today has been really tough to hold onto winners | 15:58 |
| runners have been killed today and yesterday |
<@NihabaAshi> | Lucky trade for me... |
<+ItalianSharp> | YM's 100pt retracement made it almost impossible to catch this uptrend |
<@NihabaAshi> | It's a trade error |
<+ItalianSharp> | i hope tomorrow it'll be a cleared day as far as direction | 15:59 |
<@NihabaAshi> | I saw something that really wasn't there |
<+MK> | Shorts ES @ 1004.25 «« paper »» |
<@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ES Long @ 1003.75 --> + 0.25 | 16:00 |
<+ItalianSharp> | sellers are gettin squeezed |
<@NihabaAshi> | They sliced through a ton of stops |
<+ItalianSharp> | the more the market rebounds, the stronger the rally will be |
| i expect a strong up day soon | 16:01 |
| sellers have been trying to hammer this markets down for a few days, no success |
| i am sure that they'll give it up soon |
| adn we'll be good for a strong trend day |
<@NihabaAshi> | ItalianSharp...the market considers today a strong up day but it had a lot of help from the overnight GAP |
<+ItalianSharp> | agree |
| most of the job was done overnight |
| when nobody was participating |
| we've been getting too many of this gaps lately | 16:02 |
| making the intraday price action tough to trade |
<+MK> | Covered all ES Short @ 1003 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» |
<+ItalianSharp> | volatility pikced up big time since 1500 | 16:03 |
| increased volatility to the upside...tells me we are going to break these highs soon |
| i jsut hope we wont gap up another 300pts tomorrow |
<@NihabaAshi> | That's the tendency of the U.S. elections... | 16:04 |
| The best trading occurs in the overnight trading session. |
<+ItalianSharp> | well, it's over now | 16:05 |
| thank god |
<@NihabaAshi> | Nothing we can do about it until the elections is completely done with | 16:06 |
<+ItalianSharp> | yep...patience is key right now |
<@NihabaAshi> | Usually its boring during regular trading session. | 16:07 |
| I even had time today to take a 2 hour nap :) |
| Take care all...I'm expecting another slow day tomorrow with a few sporadic high volatility price action | 16:08 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<TraderG> | <NihabaAshi> The best trading occurs in the overnight trading session. | 16:12 |
<+TraderG> | ?? |
* +Tintin | : bye all | 16:19 |
<+werner> | gn all and have a nice vote evening | 16:38 |
<@X> |
#FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission.
More info at
http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm
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<Awash_afk> | test | 20:30 |
* Awash_afk | is now known as Awash |
<+Awash> | anyone around? | 20:31 |
<+silo> | yeah | 20:33 |
| what's up |
<+Awash> | howdy |
| how's your trading going |
| anyways hope all is well | 20:39 |
| didn't want much |
* Awash | is now known as Awash_afk | 20:40 |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0 and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted in #FuturesTrades.
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