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| Session Start: Tue Oct 23 08:44:12 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
* sep34_away | is now known as sep34 | 08:51 |
* bern_away | is now known as bern | 09:08 |
<bern> | hi, good morning |
<pat255> | gm all | 09:10 |
<werner> | gm all | 09:18 |
<eminitrader> | nice set-ups in the globex charts the past few days | 09:24 |
<pat255> | gm em ...any bias this am? or your thots |
<hum_g> | how much do u pay for 1 es contract | 09:25 |
<ripsboy> | gm all... |
<eminitrader> | will wait for the mrkt to settle down pat...had a long this am...so will take it easy |
<PapaJon> | gm all |
<pat255> | nice ... |
<hum_g> | es and gbpusd chart for yesterday r identical | 09:26 |
<pat255> | early am? |
<eminitrader> | but if u want to know the areas i'm looking at ---its 1505 and 1530 |
<pat255> | thks |
<ItalianSharp> | does anyone know whether Walmart's earnings will come out today? | 09:27 |
<eminitrader> | at around 8 20 est long 1517.75 out 521.75 |
<pat255> | vn ... |
| i gotta trade pre mkt... | 09:28 |
<eminitrader> | well just did it yest and today...nice set-ups and hard to ignore | 09:29 |
<pat255> | i c... |
| what tf u take your setup ..or charts u look at when u have a moment ... | 09:30 |
| no hurry | 09:31 |
<eminitrader> | k |
| any site where i can post it |
<pat255> | can post here? | 09:32 |
<eminitrader> | urw | 09:33 |
| ignore..was a pm | 09:34 |
<szubaark> | emini u have snagit capture software? |
<eminitrader> | no szu...just give me a site where i can post the chart |
* subq | market profile charts for today | 09:36 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 821.3 «« paper »» |
* subq | http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/2 2/er2_rth_mp |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/2 2/es_rth_mp | 09:37 |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/2 2/nq_rth_mp |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/2 2/ym_rth_mp |
<les> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 820.6 --> - 0.7 «« paper »» | 09:41 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1521 «« paper »» | 09:43 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 819.8 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 819.30 -> medium size | 09:45 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 819.3 -> Add «« paper »» |
| sorry, late one |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1520.50 |
<les> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 818.7 --> + 0.6 «« paper »» | 09:46 |
<eminitrader> | 2 lot only |
<les> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 818 --> + 1.8 «« paper »» | 09:47 |
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<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1520 -> Add |
| hlding 3 |
<NihabaAshi> | Dark Hammer Line again...be careful. | 09:49 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 817.5 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Exited all ES Long @ 1519.50 --> - 1.5 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 817.10 --> + 2.2 | 09:50 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1519.50 |
| 10 lot |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1519.50 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» | 09:51 |
<les> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 817.6 --> - 0.1 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1521 --> + 1.5 | 09:52 |
<NihabaAshi> | Oil and Gold doing well so far in light of what's occuring in the Emini's and Eurex. |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 818.2 «« paper »» | 09:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | There's support in the current price area. | 09:56 |
<Brutus> | 1000/1400 Oct Richmond Fed Mfg Index | 09:57 |
| Manufacturing Index 14 |
| 10/23/2007 09:57 *DJ Richmond Fed: Oct Manufacturing Index -5 Vs Sep 14 | 09:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Lets see if the 10am est market events will help that support or take it down much further. | 09:59 |
<eminime68> | GM all |
<NihabaAshi> | Volatililty slowly declining. |
<les> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 818.7 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 10:00 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 10:02 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1522 --> + 2.5 | 10:03 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 818.80 --> + 0.5 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 818.80 |
<eminitrader> | holding 3 |
<NihabaAshi> | My entry sucked...looking to dump this. | 10:04 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 818.6 «« paper »» | 10:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 819.40 --> + 0.6 | 10:06 |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1523.50 --> + 4 | 10:08 |
| holding 1 |
| http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?topic=147.0 |
<pat255> | thks em |
<eminitrader> | here is the chart guys ...shows both my 5 pt and 4 pt longs this am | 10:09 |
| pat ..szu ...hope its of some help to u guys |
<szubaark> | yes.. thanks | 10:10 |
<les> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 819.4 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» | 10:13 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1522 -> Add |
| now hld 2 | 10:14 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1521 --> + 0.5 | 10:16 |
| Long ES @ 1520.75 | 10:17 |
| 5 lot |
| if no new lows high probability of creepy uptrend | 10:18 |
| Long ES @ 1519.25 -> Add | 10:21 |
| hlding 10 | 10:22 |
<les> | oops.. that last exit of mine was whole position, not half |
| i gotta go now, so cya all tomorrow |
<eminitrader> | avg long 1520 |
<NihabaAshi> | Another Dark Hammer Line...be careful. |
<eminitrader> | later pat | 10:23 |
| oops meant u les |
<pat255> | k.. |
<NihabaAshi> | By the way, the reason why I mention these "Dark Hammer Lines" is because I'm currently doing an extensive study/research of them. |
| They are not part of my primary trade methodology. | 10:24 |
<pat255> | i c...on 1 min tf N? |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1520.25 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | I just need to document them (talk about them) in the log as reference points with my charts because I use these logs as my "personal diary" of my trading and market research. |
| pat255...yes | 10:25 |
<Tim_a> | do you read dark hammer lines as areas of potential support? |
<NihabaAshi> | So far from what I've learned is that they are very "dynamic". |
| They behave as three things... | 10:26 |
| 1. Sets up a possible bullish signal in the first 2 - 3 intervals after the Dark Hammer Line. |
| 2. The price action breaks down fast below the lows of the Dark Hammer Lines to help indicate "bearish continuation". | 10:27 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1521 --> + 1.75 | 10:28 |
<NihabaAshi> | 3. They behave like magnets in that if price breaks down below the low price of the Dark Hammer line... |
<eminitrader> | thats 1 pt from avg |
<NihabaAshi> | The price action soon afterwards will attempt to retrace back upwards into the s/r zone of the Dark Hammer Line if a bullish signal appears below the Dark Hammer Line. |
<eminitrader> | stop 1518.25 |
| be back | 10:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | Those are the three areas I'm concentrating on in learning about these Dark Hammer Lines. |
<szubaark> | Exited 1/2 Long ES at 1521.50 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Hopefully by this time next year I can include them into my primary methodology. |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1520.25 «« paper »» |
<Tim_a> | it does seem that many pivot points in retrospect have hammer lines | 10:30 |
<NihabaAshi> | I wanted to talk about why I talk about Dark Hammer Lines a lot in here because I got an email two days ago because someone "thought" or "assume" my trading method involved Dark Hammer Lines. |
| :) |
| The answer is currently NO. |
| I'm just currently studying/researching and doing some trades by them to better understand their price action. | 10:31 |
* bern | is now known as bern_away | 10:32 |
<szubaark> | So far tight Range on ES | 10:36 |
<eminitrader> | uptrend is of high probability now ...expect new highs | 10:37 |
| Long ES @ 1520.50 -> Add | 10:38 |
| hlding 10 now |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1520.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 816.00 -> small size | 10:43 |
| trying something new |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1519 -> Add | 10:45 |
| now hlding 20 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1518.75 «« paper »» | 10:46 |
| looking for possible gap fill here |
<eminitrader> | 50 :50 prbability now szu .. | 10:47 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm still waiting for some help from Gold and Oil. |
<eminitrader> | but still rooting for new hihs |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm still on my own so far. | 10:48 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 1520 --> + 1 | 10:49 |
<NihabaAshi> | I got Oil on my side now but Gold is still being stubborn :( |
<eminitrader> | thats b/e on 5 |
| hlding 15 from 1519.25 avg | 10:50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 816.50 --> + 0.5 |
<eminitrader> | looking more and more bullish | 10:52 |
<szubaark> | back ti testing Support :( | 10:53 |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1518.25 --> - 2.5 | 10:55 |
<szubaark> | some "weak" overnight support areas here | 10:56 |
| Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1517 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 11:00 |
<eminitrader> | nice szu |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1518.75 «« paper »» |
| thx. |
| Hopefully my remainders wont get picked IF we fill the Gap. |
| Covered all Short ES at 1514.75 --> + 4 «« paper »» | 11:06 |
<eminitrader> | very nice szu L) | 11:08 |
<Brutus> | good one Szu |
<szubaark> | thanks |
<Tim_a> | nice shot, havent really seen that many gap fills lately |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 still channeling downwards. | 11:12 |
| volatility improving as the trading day goes on. | 11:14 |
<pat255> | wondering N em dont u guys take S when it pulls back with trend down? | 11:20 |
<Tim_a> | very perverse market action | 11:22 |
<pat255> | y |
<Tim_a> | . | 11:26 |
<NihabaAshi> | That volatility breakout on the 1min chart may setup a nice fade to the upside. | 11:32 |
| Long ER2 @ 810.00 -> small size | 11:33 |
| :( | 11:34 |
| be back later...got some distractions here. |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 810.10 --> + 0.1 | 11:35 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1516.50 | 11:52 |
| 10lot |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1515 --> + 1.5 | 11:57 |
| Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1516 --> + 0.5 | 11:59 |
| k guys ..done for the day...see u all tomorow | 12:00 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 12:01 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 12:02 |
<Tim_a> | . | 12:19 |
* Stowe | long ym 13635 | 12:41 |
<Guest35179> | long 813.5 | 12:44 |
| out 813.8 | 12:49 |
| long 811.9 | 12:59 |
| out 811.1 | 13:01 |
| short 814.3 | 13:19 |
| out 813.5 | 13:22 |
<yayaa> | D'day all | 13:53 |
| short YM here @ 653 | 14:01 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 14:05 |
<yayaa> | stopped out YM @ 673 -20 | 14:07 |
| Back in another YM short here @ 683 |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 14:23 |
* Stowe | sells ym 13695 +60 from 13635 long at 12:41 | 14:34 |
<KilaruNa> | http://instincts.ru/go.php?1739517543 | 14:47 |
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<Brutus> | dodgy russian sites? | 14:49 |
<yayaa> | Covered YM short here @ 654 +29 pts |
* Stowe | short ym 13664 | 14:52 |
<yayaa> | Stowe nice hold on your long YM | 14:53 |
<Stowe> | ty yaa | 14:57 |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13683 | 14:59 |
<rainer> | Shorts YM @ 13667 | 15:09 |
<Nesi> | hi | 15:12 |
<rainer> | Covered all YM Short @ 13657 --> + 10 | 15:14 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 1517.5 «« paper »» | 15:20 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 1517.5 --> 0 «« paper »» | 15:21 |
<yayaa> | B,You mean ES? |
<Brutus> | yes | 15:22 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 815.30 -> small size | 15:24 |
| 2 only | 15:25 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 1517.5 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | too many dojis showing up now :( | 15:26 |
<Pepe> | :) |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 1519.5 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 15:28 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 817.40 --> + 2.1 |
| With all the family distractions today that caused me to exit a nice trade too early and then miss some good price action... | 15:29 |
| I'm surprised I was still able to reach my profit goal for the day. |
| Another day where the intermarket analysis of Oil, Gold and other key markets helped me reach my profit goal for the day. | 15:33 |
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<Brutus> | Exited ER2 Long @ 1522.5 --> + 5 «« paper »» |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13687 | 15:34 |
<Pepe> | nice |
* Looking | up Stowe user info... |
<yayaa> | Nih,Congrats.(For me,God,family,career.Always works.) |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 1520.25 «« paper »» | 15:38 |
| Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 1521.5 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» | 15:39 |
<NihabaAshi> | thanks yayaa |
| yayaa...have you downloaded the trade posting script??? | 15:40 |
<Brutus> | praying never helped me on trades :( |
<NihabaAshi> | YOu sent me an email about the script. |
<Brutus> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 1522.5 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» |
| dang | 15:41 |
<yayaa> | short ym here @ 707 | 15:42 |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13705\ |
<NihabaAshi> | Anybody that wants access to the trade posting script, download and installation instructions...its all posted at the following link... | 15:43 |
| http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?topic=32.0 |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13711 | 15:44 |
<NihabaAshi> | However, if you can't get access to that link that's probably because you have not registered to be a verified member of #FuturesTrades. | 15:45 |
| To become a member (always free), just follow the following instructions... |
| http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTra desChatRoom.htm |
<zik_> | adding on uptrend mkt, not wise |
<NihabaAshi> | That will also ensure your have access to the PASSWORD because sometimes I make this room "private" without warning. | 15:46 |
<yayaa> | I'll try it again this pm NIH,I thought I followed instructions before but must have done something wrong |
<NihabaAshi> | yayaa...ok |
<yayaa> | sometimes the promts are different I have noticed in netscape,I use IE | 15:48 |
| Nih,for instance now when I click remote scripts,your programming info pops up,I'll try again after hours. | 15:49 |
<Tim_a> | today has a weired pattern | 15:50 |
| weird |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13720 | 15:55 |
<NihabaAshi> | Be ready for that 4pm est volatility spike. | 15:59 |
* Stowe | adds to short ym 13715 | 16:01 |
<Brutus> | 10/23/2007 16:01 *DJ Amazon.com 3Q Sales $3.26B Vs $2.31B, +41% >AMZN |
<NihabaAshi> | A one minute delay (afterwards) for the spike to show up...its trying to go down. | 16:02 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== |
| DJIA up 104.70 points to 13671.35 |
| NASDAQ up 43.10 points to 2797.03 |
| S&P 500 up 12.63 points to 1519.04 |
| 10-year T-note up 5/32 at 102 26/32 yield 4.390 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude down $0.75 at $85.27/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro up 0.0081 at 1.4255 |
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<Nesi> | thanks guys, i am going to load the script, have a good day all | 16:03 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away | 16:04 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 16:11 |
<werner> | gn all | 16:15 |
<yayaa> | Covered YM short @ 704 + 3 pts. | 16:16 |
<NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all tomorrow. | 16:19 |
<Brutus> | cu |
<NihabaAshi> | #FuturesTrades Purpose -> To document your own trades and thoughts as you traverse from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information you cannot get from your broker statements (real money or simulator)...use this room as your trade journal. | 16:20 |
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