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| Session Start: Mon Oct 13 09:23:30 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 09:23 |
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<ItalianSharp> | morning all | 09:24 |
<Maximus> | gm |
<pat255> | gm all |
<rickf> | gm |
<+ItalianSharp> | we may get the first up day today..."maybe" |
<+pat255> | y | 09:25 |
<futurible> | gm all |
<+rickf> | FYI
- got ISP dude coming to upgrade my net connection this morning, so
won't be trading .... avoid getting caught if/when he yanks my
connection downstairs | 09:26 |
| and i'm teaching rest of the week, so i won't be around much 'till next monday |
<PapaJon> | gm all |
<+rickf> | (for those wondering or keeping track or stalking or whatever lol) |
<+pat255> | thks rick ...enjoy your week | 09:27 |
<Nesi> | what do you teach? :) |
<+rickf> | incident response operations for IT security folks |
<+Maximus> | looking strong into the bell here | 09:29 |
| long ES 944 | 09:30 |
<fy260498> | sell stop to enter short ES @ 942.50 «« paper »» |
<+Maximus> | Out ES 945.00 +1 | 09:31 |
| chopping that 945 level really hard.. |
<+fy260498> | Block selling at 945.75 |
<TraderG> | good morning | 09:32 |
<+fy260498> | Filled ans Stopped out |
| -2 |
<drt> | gm | 09:33 |
<+Maximus> | i think my vix is off.. anyone's reading 71.42? | 09:36 |
| oh there it goes 64.76 |
<+rickf> | VIX @ 65 down 5 | 09:37 |
<+fy260498> | 954.50 would be the area to watch | 09:38 |
| If it can get there in this push |
<+Maximus> | long ES 947.25 | 09:39 |
<silo> | morning | 09:40 |
<+fy260498> | Very Choppy Open |
<T-stop> | hey silo |
<+Maximus> | Out ES 948.25 +1 | 09:41 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 941.25 «« paper »» | 09:49 |
<+rickf> | good entry | 09:51 |
<+Maximus> | short ES 939.25 |
<+szubaark> | we'll see |
<+Maximus> | out 938.25 +1 |
<+szubaark> | tightening stop |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 941.25 «« paper »» |
<AustinJM> | new lows | 09:52 |
<+Maximus> | session lows | 09:53 |
<+rickf> | 909.25 session low (24-hr session) |
| :) |
<+Maximus> | yup |
| referring to the 9:30-4:15 sesh :) | 09:54 |
<+rickf> | this is setting up to be a short-lived bounce? |
| yeah figured that lol |
<+Maximus> | who knows.. in the |
| anything can happen" camp |
<fy260498> | Break below 932.00 - Could that be a Short Opportunity |
<+fy260498> | ATM 936.00 seems to hold | 09:55 |
<+rickf> | possibly |
| 936 short-term support |
<+fy260498> | BUT second attempt to break 932.00 would create sell-off once again - IMO |
<silo> | woke up late today | 09:56 |
<+silo> | then had to restart :( |
| that was a nice short i missed |
<+AustinJM> | way to miss the open :) |
<+silo> | :) |
<+fy260498> | but if 932.00 is broken, the reward may not be that big as 929.25 may then hold it back possibly | 09:57 |
<+rickf> | bang |
<+fy260498> | lets see how it goes |
<+AustinJM> | well right now on a 3 minute chart it looks like there is some decision making going on. its hovering |
| Someoens gotta tip their hand |
<+fy260498> | in other direction, a qualified Long entry would be break of 944.00 with target at 954.00 | 09:58 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 941.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 09:59 |
| undecided what it wants to do |
<+silo> | today is bank holiday? | 10:00 |
<+AustinJM> | That
was interesting, i saw 1100+ asks piling up at 941.75. above market.
then as soon as it reached, turned into 1000+ bids below market haha |
<+fy260498> | not going anywhere | 10:02 |
<+AustinJM> | well could do this all day, considering last week | 10:03 |
<+fy260498> | real choppy clusters |
<+T-stop> | y, silo banks, japan, bonds closed |
<+fy260498> | yeah, think so |
<+AustinJM> | i wouldn't be surprised | 10:04 |
<+fy260498> | it has to come outside the range of 936.00 to 944.00 |
| with good volumes |
<sav> | late post | 10:05 |
<+sav> | Shorts NQ @ 1326.75 |
| Covered all NQ Short @ 1323.75 --> + 3 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 937 «« paper »» |
<+fy260498> | here it comes |
| retracement till 939.50 max and then going back to 935.50 emplies short | 10:06 |
<+silo> | hehe szu |
| :) |
| that 6 pts bar... you caught the low : |
| be careful | 10:07 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 937 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:10 |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 8780 | 10:14 |
<+fy260498> | I'd rather wait now |
| Its not working this way |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 8820 --> - 40 | 10:15 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 941.50 «« paper »» |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 8806 | 10:16 |
<+szubaark> | extremely choppy tape | 10:18 |
| tightening stop | 10:19 |
| exit stop set ES @ 939 «« paper »» |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 8835 --> - 29 | 10:20 |
<+szubaark> | tightening stop |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 941.50 «« paper »» |
| either goes or its playing games dowm here | 10:21 |
| tightening stop | 10:22 |
| exit stop set ES @ 942 «« paper »» |
<+sav> | not feeling good about today very indecisive | 10:23 |
<+szubaark> | day like this is expected after such Volatility last week |
<+sav> | true |
<+fy260498> | So its holding 943.00 now | 10:24 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 942.25 --> + 0.75 «« paper »» |
| just chopping around | 10:25 |
<+AustinJM> | Remember, its a federal holiday |
<+szubaark> | are banks closed? |
<+AustinJM> | Smaller ones yes |
<pdays> | yes |
<+silo> | Long YM @ 8843 | 10:27 |
<+sav> | Long NQ @ 1333.00 | 10:28 |
| Exited all NQ Long @ 1336.00 --> + 3 |
<+fy260498> | Buyers Interest here but Low Volume still a problem |
| if successful - next stop at 954.50 |
| in my opinion |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 952.50 «« paper »» | 10:29 |
<+silo> | Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 8884 --> + 41 |
| Exited Remainder YM Long @ 8886 --> + 43 | 10:30 |
<+sav> | thats me done for the day not feeling comfortable so will paper trade for the rest of the day to practise | 10:31 |
<+silo> | Shorts YM @ 8894 | 10:32 |
<+fy260498> | absolutely - its not a very good day |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 954.25 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 10:33 |
| slow, lathargic tape, i dont have the nerves for it | 10:34 |
<+pdays> | Shorts ES @ 950.25 | 10:37 |
<+silo> | Covered all YM Short @ 8915 --> - 21 | 10:39 |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
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and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if
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in #FuturesTrades. | 10:47 |
<+rickf> | :( |
<+szubaark> | is post office open today? | 10:49 |
<+AustinJM> | Its a federal holiday | 10:51 |
<+Maximus> | post is not open today | 10:52 |
* +rickf | closed |
<+szubaark> | thanks | 10:53 |
<+sav> | Long NQ @ 1346.5 «« paper »» |
| Exited all NQ Long @ 1345.5 --> - 1 «« paper »» | 10:56 |
| Long NQ @ 1348.00 «« paper »» |
| Exited all NQ Long @ 1346.75 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» | 10:58 |
<+silo> | Long YM @ 8910 | 11:01 |
| we'll most likely go test 1000 in YM |
| shorts are riskier until we test that number i think | 11:02 |
<+TraderG> | 10,000 ?? | 11:03 |
<+szubaark> | hehe..1000 |
<+silo> | yeah |
| :) |
| i'm holding my long until we hit that number |
| this long |
| or get close to it |
| :) |
| oops | 11:04 |
| unvermind |
| it's 10000 :) |
| lol |
| but steady buying so far | 11:05 |
<+T-stop> | silo, pos wedge, w/ bo potential here, imo |
| bush on |
<+szubaark> | Bot buying |
<+silo> | Exited all YM Long @ 8910 --> 0 | 11:07 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 953.75 «« paper »» | 11:25 |
| tightening Stop | 11:28 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 953.75 «« paper »» | 11:29 |
| Exited all Long ES at 953.75 --> 0 «« paper »» |
<+rickf> | just a creeper sorta morning | 11:30 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 956 «« paper »» |
<+rickf> | or not | 11:31 |
<+szubaark> | last try, will take break after this |
<+rickf> | you might be ok |
<+szubaark> | dont like the 2-3 Point noise wiggles before we get any push | 11:32 |
<+rickf> | yeah but you kinda have to give it that kind of room today |
| scary as it may be | 11:33 |
<+szubaark> | im lowering my Profit targets due to this Price Action |
| tightening Stop | 11:34 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 956 «« paper »» |
<+rickf> | could be a nice creep up | 11:38 |
<+szubaark> | tightening Stop |
| exit stop set ES @ 956.50 «« paper »» | 11:39 |
<+rickf> | over 960 you maybe golden ... HOD is 959.50 | 11:40 |
<+szubaark> | yup | 11:41 |
| 963.50 is closest resistance I See | 11:43 |
| Exited all Long ES at 957 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 11:48 |
| its not going anywhere fast |
* szubaark | is now known as szubaark_away |
* Kalle | is now known as Kalle_away | 11:51 |
<+silo> | Long YM @ 8951 | 11:56 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead |
<+silo> | Exited all YM Long @ 8935 --> - 16 | 12:01 |
<+rickf> | long 957 25 | 12:05 |
| out b/e | 12:07 |
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<+szubaark_away> | too much wiggle noise |
| hehhe.. Niha took today OFF as if he knew Volatility would be Low | 12:09 |
<+rickf> | long es from 57.75 | 12:13 |
| out 62.75 +5 | 12:16 |
| long es from 962.50 | 12:27 |
<MK> | Exited all ES Long @ 965.75 --> + 86.25 «« paper »» | 12:35 |
<+rickf> | exit es 968 +5.5 | 12:51 |
<+MK> | Shorts ES @ 968 «« paper »» |
<+szubaark_away> | nice rick | 12:52 |
<+rickf> | ty |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0
and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if
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in #FuturesTrades. | 12:53 |
<+Maximus> | rick did you get your internet fixed? |
| or updated |
<+rickf> | not yet still waiting for the tech |
<+Maximus> | ah | 12:54 |
| decided to trade though? |
<+rickf> | yeah i just kept stops going |
<+Maximus> | today is automated strategy day, so no trading for me |
| automated strategy dev* |
| i get to pour over C# all day long lol |
<+rickf> | heh | 12:55 |
| long es 67.50 | 13:08 |
| out b/e | 13:10 |
<+MK> | what a diff in volatility compared to Fri | 13:23 |
<+rickf> | yeah | 13:24 |
| fri was pleasure to trade |
<+silo> | long from 9014 |
| gonna see if i can just hold on to this one for a while |
| steady buying every dip | 13:25 |
| but i dont know if we have enough strength to go up 900 pts to test 10000 ym |
| :\ |
| tricky tricky |
<+MK> | could be false sense of security today | 13:26 |
<+Maximus> | true | 13:32 |
* szubaark_away | is now known as szubaark | 13:38 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 967.25 «« paper »» |
<AndyP> | nice short szu | 13:43 |
<+szubaark> | we'll see..waited almost 2 hours for a setup | 13:44 |
| Weak Support area | 13:47 |
| tightening Stop |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 967.25 «« paper »» |
| Covered all Short ES at 967.25 --> 0 «« paper »» | 13:48 |
| :( |
| frustrating day |
| they keep coming back for Entries, and they can do that on such low volume crap day | 13:49 |
<+T-stop> | ge, jpm leading the charge lower, can't imagine much selling today, but who knows | 13:50 |
* +rickf | shot 65.25 |
<+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 963.75 «« paper »» |
<+T-stop> | agree szu, holiday trade+ | 13:53 |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 963.75 --> 0 «« paper »» |
| i thought PM session would be better, but its same | 13:54 |
<+T-stop> | may be loading a few shorts to fuel up into close | 13:55 |
<+rickf> | out 63 | 13:56 |
| +2.25 | 13:57 |
<+T-stop> | nice rick |
<+rickf> | thx |
| short from 63.50 | 13:58 |
<+T-stop> | can anyone imagine a red close, lol...no chance | 14:00 |
<+rickf> | out 61.25 | 14:01 |
| bak in a bit | 14:02 |
<+Maximus> | anything can happen | 14:04 |
| if it were a red close.. game over |
<+T-stop> | lol |
| need to break that +500 emotional lvl to get any traction to dwn side | 14:09 |
| sm sup in here | 14:10 |
<traderguy> | hi all | 14:13 |
<+T-stop> | hey |
<+traderguy> | is there sound in this room? | 14:14 |
<+T-stop> | n | 14:16 |
<+traderguy> | thx | 14:17 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 961.50 «« paper »» | 14:20 |
| Exited all Long ES at 959.75 --> - 1.75 «« paper »» | 14:21 |
| Shorts ES @ 959.75 «« paper »» |
| exit stop set ES @ 961.50 «« paper »» | 14:23 |
| Covered all Short ES at 961.50 --> - 1.75 «« paper »» | 14:24 |
| :(( |
| Shorts ES @ 958.75 «« paper »» |
<+T-stop> | they don't dump this lvl, those few shorts gonna cry wolf | 14:25 |
| gotta break this t line for lower | 14:26 |
| nice szu | 14:29 |
<+szubaark> | picking up some volume to downside |
* Tintin | : hi all | 14:34 |
<+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 958.75 «« paper »» | 14:35 |
| geezz.. they keep coming back for my entries | 14:36 |
<+T-stop> | "possible illiquid and volitile moves in final hour"..lol, art cashin |
<+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 958.75 --> 0 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 959.25 «« paper »» | 14:37 |
| tightening stop | 14:41 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 959.25 «« paper »» |
| hi werner | 14:42 |
<werner> | hi szu |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 964.50 --> + 5.25 «« paper »» | 14:46 |
<+werner> | nice szu | 14:47 |
<+szubaark> | thnx |
| cnbc must be cheerleading this rally.. bob pisane wearing pompoms | 14:51 |
<+werner> | lol | 14:52 |
<+T-stop> | bunch of yoyo's |
<@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
Some members (including me) explain basic details about their trades posted in #FuturesTrades @ http://thestrategylab.com/forum/index.ph p?board=58.0
and there's a link there to take you to #FuturesTrades archived logs if
you're interested in reviewing past trades or market commentary posted
in #FuturesTrades. | 14:56 |
<+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 966.25 «« paper »» |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 966.25 «« paper »» | 14:57 |
| new highs..looks strong | 14:58 |
<+rickf> | bal | 15:01 |
| long from 71.50 |
<+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 973 --> + 6.75 «« paper »» | 15:04 |
<+Maximus> | nice rick | 15:07 |
| my automated system caught it at 967.25 |
| and still long |
<+T-stop> | nice, max | 15:08 |
<+rickf> | out 78 |
<+Maximus> | vn rick |
<+rickf> | thx max |
<+T-stop> | y, wtg rick | 15:09 |
<+rickf> | thx all |
<+Maximus> | perhaps really strong rally into the close.. we'll see.. or some long covering around 330 ish | 15:10 |
<+rickf> | long es 77.25 | 15:21 |
<+ItalianSharp> | nice trend day today | 15:24 |
<+Maximus> | yes |
<+ItalianSharp> | if we close strong, it'll be one of the biggest rallies in history |
| from friday low to today's high |
<+T-stop> | Hey Italian |
<+ItalianSharp> | FYI: friday is options expiration day |
| you know what that means? |
<+Maximus> | dow +700 | 15:25 |
<+ItalianSharp> | that all those who got stuck in puts or sold calls, are going to cover |
| we could have a massive rally all week |
<+szubaark> | heheh...good one italian.the game never ends |
<+Maximus> | true |
| i picked up some options earlier |
| but there is alawys pin risk as we get closer to expiry |
| so interesting to where that will settle | 15:26 |
<+ItalianSharp> | yes, this week will set the tone for the coming weeks, months IMO |
<+Maximus> | HUGE open interest in the SPY 100's |
| so most likely a pin around there, or higher |
| also in the 110 SPY |
| 129k spy puts | 15:27 |
| sheesh |
| 103k spy calls |
| may retest 1000 es if we really heat up | 15:28 |
<+rickf> | out 82.25 +5 | 15:29 |
<+szubaark> | nice rick |
<+rickf> | ty zau |
<+Maximus> | the system's still long since 67.25 |
<+szubaark> | Overnight will be intresting |
<+rickf> | szu |
| long 82.50 | 15:34 |
| out 985.50 +3 | 15:36 |
| long es 986 | 15:38 |
<+Maximus> | out es (system) @ 989.00 + 30.75 | 15:41 |
| sheesh |
<+T-stop> | geez, that real | 15:42 |
| or paper |
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<+Maximus> | paper* for the system |
| im authoring an auto strategy |
<+T-stop> | nice |
| kool |
<+Maximus> | just forward testing |
<+rickf> | out 987 +1 | 15:43 |
| :( |
<+T-stop> | no reason to fight this tape |
<+Maximus> | looks like it got me out right near the top |
<+rickf> | what are you basing your entries/exits on max? | 15:44 |
<+Maximus> | a visual volume/tape entry exit |
| looking at buying and selling %'s per bar |
<+rickf> | cool | 15:45 |
<+Maximus> | reaches an extreme one way or the other, triggers long/short |
| still a bit to go, kinda buggy ATM |
<+rickf> | long es 989 | 15:47 |
<+szubaark> | ES +100 amazing |
<+rickf> | out 989.50 +.50 | 15:48 |
| systems or auto-trade stuff kinda scares me |
<+szubaark> | yes rick, its like trying to Program Human emotions (GREED and FEAR) | 15:49 |
<+rickf> | long es 92 | 15:50 |
<+szubaark> | we'll see 1000 ES today? LOL |
<+silo> | u serious? |
| what's ym's price |
| sorry i'm not trading and dont have platform up |
<+szubaark> | 9250 | 15:51 |
<+codehead> | +805 dow |
<+szubaark> | AMAZING Slow,controlled, "rally" |
<+Maximus> | yeah system trading is a long journey | 15:52 |
| its nothing something you make, set and forget |
| you need to constantly adjust it, monitor it, etec |
| etc* |
| lock limit up dow? |
| but i think last hour doesnt go itno effect | 15:53 |
| remember this is light volume and holiday | 15:54 |
<+T-stop> | zactly max | 15:55 |
| zackly also |
<+szubaark> | here we go ES 1000 |
<+Maximus> | incoming ES 1000 test |
| watch that tape | 15:56 |
<+werner> | wow |
<+Maximus> | hasnt printed yet |
| there it is |
| dow nearing +900 | 15:57 |
<dragon310> | wow freaking tape going crazy |
<+rickf> | out 1002 +10 | 15:58 |
<+Maximus> | tons of big orders in |
| on the offer |
| might hit 1000+ on dow |
<+rickf> | this is in-effing-sane |
<+Maximus> | for headline sakes |
| history guys |
<+rickf> | up 13% ES, 13% YM |
<+szubaark> | there has to be lots of Stops getting hit now from Shorts | 15:59 |
<+rickf> | geez the vix DOWN 14 |
<+szubaark> | people that are holding Shorts from Top Wont be sleeping tonight |
<+dragon310> | short squeezzzzz too |
<+rickf> | yeah |
<+Maximus> | pushing for dow 1000+ | 16:00 |
<+rickf> | ding ding |
<+szubaark> | folks, we are watching HISTORY in the making |
<+Maximus> | gotta wait for the trades to settle up.. might be +1000 |
<+rickf> | szu - indeed we are |
<+szubaark> | There has NEVER been such a HUGE UP day before in History of this Makret |
<+rickf> | look @ this ... JohnsonJohnson, up almost SEVEN | 16:01 |
| that's unheard of |
<+Maximus> | big day | 16:02 |
| alright guys take care, hope you all did very well to the long side |
<+rickf> | yeah - i am happy....i was down on the morning but came back strong |
| you too |
<+szubaark> | nice work rick..im also happy to be PLUS | 16:03 |
<+rickf> | excellent! |
| only sad to say i wont be around to trade the rest of the week :( | 16:04 |
<+szubaark> | Why? | 16:05 |
<+rickf> | teaching rest of the week |
| ok guys out for the day - good trading, good luck this week, see you soon! | 16:16 |
<+werner> | gn all |
<+szubaark> | bye |
<+werner> | bye szu |
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Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext
Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX
Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM),
COMEX Metals Futures (GC), Forex Currencies (EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCdn), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA,
GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY, XLE) and
Hang Seng Index Futures (HSI)
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