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| Session Start: Thu Oct 11 09:28:35 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<eminitrader> | hi pat :)\ |
<szubaark> | gm |
<NihabaAshi> | Good morning all | 09:29 |
<werner> | gm niha ,all |
<intowin> | gm guys.. I have some work to do this am. have a buy order in at 1575 with a 1 pt stop. Hard to trade when I am not here though lol |
<Dmi76> | gm all | 09:30 |
<pat255> | hmm gaps fill...? |
<intowin> | hard to believe this market is just one way lateley |
<pat255> | y |
<szubaark> | hi pat | 09:31 |
<les> | agree - we due for some hefty correction |
<pat255> | hi szu | 09:32 |
<eminitrader> | high probability is that will not be till after 1620-1640 is tested on the ES |
<pat255> | mama mia ...hmm em way up ther | 09:33 |
<eminitrader> | may see some minor pullbacks ...but major will prolly happen after that area is tested |
<pat255> | u prolly right .. |
<les> | similar on er2 i think.. |
| cept we about 4 pts below the altime high |
| means correction sooner, or a lotta sideays for some time |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 854.40 -> medium size | 09:34 |
<eminitrader> | hope not those creepy uptrends :) |
<NihabaAshi> | be careful here...its already spooked me a few times. |
<pat255> | hard to take S with these moves .. | 09:35 |
| traders are piling in to go L.. | 09:36 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 854.2 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Currently I have no support from other key markets to help with my Short. |
<bern> | 1030 et Crude Oil Inventories 1045 et Fed Governor Kroszner speaks |
<NihabaAshi> | That'll make it an easy position reversal if it moves quickly against me. |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 854.90 --> - 0.5 | 09:37 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 854.90 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1581 | 09:38 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 855.30 --> + 0.4 | 09:42 |
<eminitrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1582.50 --> - 1.5 | 09:43 |
| Shorts ES @ 1582 | 09:44 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 855.10 -> medium size |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 853.9 -> Add «« paper »» | 09:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | I now got some support from other key markets on my Short |
<les> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 852.8 --> + 1.1 «« paper »» | 09:46 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1580 --> + 2 | 09:47 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1580 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 852.90 --> + 2.2 |
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<pat255> | vn guys on S |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 852.9 -> Add «« paper »» | 09:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | some support here...not much but maybe enough to attract some Longs. | 09:51 |
<les> | less likley to hold with so much resistance above this area |
| Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 852.1 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» | 09:56 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1579 --> + 3 |
<pat255> | vn em .. |
<eminitrader> | holding 2 |
| thx pat |
<Tim_a1> | nice em | 09:57 |
<eminitrader> | thx T | 09:58 |
| still think might test 1577 ...before getting some kind of support | 09:59 |
<NihabaAshi> | so far the current 2min interval is a volatility spike :( |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 854.50 --> + 0.6 | 10:00 |
<Brutus> | Nice trades guys NQ HOD |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1581 --> + 1 |
<pat255> | wow ...no gap fill |
<eminitrader> | is this mrkt strong or what..finding buyers at every price level:)) | 10:01 |
<werner> | yep | 10:02 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1581.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | That 0958am - 1000am est 2min interval was a volatility spike (expanding volatility) and a volatility breakout. | 10:03 |
| volatility breakouts usually occur before traditional swing point breakouts. | 10:04 |
| ...regardless if the swing point breakout fails soon afterwards. |
<base> | GM all | 10:06 |
<bern> | nq trying hard dax not helping | 10:09 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1581 -> Add |
| now holding 5 | 10:10 |
| Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1581.50 --> + 0.5 | 10:13 |
| avg is around 81.25.. |
| holding 2 |
<bern> | euro up strong last 20min | 10:14 |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1581.25 --> - 0.25 | 10:16 |
<szubaark> | ES in a Tight, Pause 2 Point Range since Opening |
<NihabaAshi> | Reminder: We got a 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status report. | 10:18 |
<pat255> | y ty N |
<bern> | is Fed Governor Kroszner speech somehting that could increase volatility also? | 10:20 |
<NihabaAshi> | DArk Hammer Line...be careful. | 10:22 |
<bern> | timeframe? |
<Dmi76> | i see it on 2 min chart | 10:23 |
<bern> | yes i see thanks dmi |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1580.50 | 10:24 |
| 5 lot | 10:25 |
<Dmi76> | Long ER2 @ 855.20 | 10:26 |
<Brutus> | 1030/1430 Oct 5 US Energy Dept Oil Inventories | 10:27 |
| Crude Oil Stocks (in barrels) +1.2M |
| Gasoline Stocks (in barrels) -100K |
| Distillate Stocks (in barrels) -1.2M |
| 1045/1445 Fed Gov Kroszner speaks on "Consumer Protection and Other |
| Roles of the Fed" at the National Bankers Assn annual |
| convention in Durham, N.C |
<Dmi76> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 855.60 --> + 0.4 | 10:28 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 855.80 -> small size | 10:29 |
| trying something new...1 only |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1582 --> + 1.5 |
| holding 3 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 856.4 «« paper »» | 10:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | WRB pt1 reached...will try to get more. |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 855.90 --> + 0.1 | 10:32 |
| :( |
<Dmi76> | do you mean wrb with high 856.4 on 2 min chart? |
<NihabaAshi> | Nature of swing point breakouts :(\ | 10:33 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1582.50 --> + 2 |
| holding 1 |
<NihabaAshi> | WRB (at the time of its development) was 856.40 |
| The high was 856.70 | 10:34 |
<Dmi76> | thnx |
<les> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 855.5 --> - 0.9 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1581 -> Add | 10:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | dropped too fast before I could get short :( |
<Tim_a1> | failed breakouts are hard to catch | 10:37 |
<NihabaAshi> | Gold still creeping higher. | 10:44 |
| Oil is in a flat market |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1583 --> + 2 | 10:45 |
| holding 3 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 856.60 -> small size |
| 2 only | 10:46 |
| trying something new again |
<eminitrader> | looks like a creeper uptrend on the ES |
<pat255> | y | 10:47 |
<Brutus> | nah I like Nihas short ER pos HOD |
<NihabaAshi> | Most of the key markets didn't support that price spurt around 1045am est |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 855.40 --> + 1.2 | 10:48 |
<Brutus> | good entry I didnt get a fill at 856.5 | 10:49 |
<NihabaAshi> | Grabbed a WRB pt1 exit especially after I got nailed for trying to get greedy in that prior Long position. |
| Brutus, had I not hesitated I could have gotten 856.80 as soon as I noticed no support for that price spurt. | 10:50 |
<pat255> | yup N missed the S...dang was slow . | 10:51 |
| hesiated ..still not trying to S .. |
| but em has got the right ditection |
<Brutus> | k, YM also diverging and showing signs of weakness | 10:52 |
<eminitrader> | ym showing wekness ..u got to be kidding ? | 10:56 |
| not as of now.. |
<Brutus> | Was from waht I watch but may be consilidating and finding support now | 10:58 |
<eminitrader> | well B u never know...two views...guess thats what makes the mrkt :) | 11:01 |
<Tim_a1> | looks like a 'stand aside' to me | 11:02 |
| most days hidsight shows me the best entries |
| i try to forece myself to wait for them | 11:03 |
<NihabaAshi> | So far, today's price action is setting up to be a day of "contracting volatility". | 11:04 |
| If it completes the day like that (contracting volatility)... |
<Tim_a1> | spx daily seems to be a 'rising wedge' | 11:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'll be looking for a trend day or strong price movement in the morning tomorrow, next Monday or Tuesday. |
| Someone once asked in here many months ago how to tell when trend day's are most likely to occur... | 11:06 |
| That's the answer I gave then and now. |
| Contracting Volatility is a precursor to TREND |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1581 --> + 0.5 | 11:10 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1581 |
<NihabaAshi> | Thus, don't let anyone brainwash you into thinking you can't determine when a TREND day is most likely to occur :) | 11:11 |
<eminitrader> | will add till 83 | 11:12 |
| u were right B...selling pressure increasing now | 11:14 |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility spike right now |
<Brutus> | thx 2 scenarios we go down now or watch for a narrow consilidation till the afternoon and then there will be a big breakdown past gap fill | 11:16 |
<Nesi> | hi all | 11:28 |
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<les> | Long ER2 @ 854.1 «« paper »» | 11:33 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1582 -> Add | 11:38 |
<les> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 855.1 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 11:39 |
<base> | nice les | 11:42 |
<les> | holding 1 more |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 854.9 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» | 11:43 |
<Tim_a1> | a very prickley day, it just doesnt want to give up anything | 11:50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Overall volatility is still declining since 10am est | 11:54 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 855.5 «« paper »» | 11:56 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 12:00 |
<Brutus> | 10/11/2007 12:00 *DJ US Govt Posted $162.83 Bln Total Deficit In FY 2007 |
| well they got my stop at 1583.75 :( it might turn out to be a double top | 12:03 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1583 -> Add |
| now holding 5 |
<Brutus> | poor stop placement | 12:04 |
<eminitrader> | avg 1582.125 |
<Guest35179> | 855.90 short | 12:05 |
<eminitrader> | was it hod | 12:06 |
<Guest35179> | out 855.4 +.5 |
<Brutus> | 1583.75 ye/SS |
| yep |
<eminitrader> | bad luck |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 855.7 -> Add «« paper »» |
| Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 854.9 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» | 12:10 |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 854.6 --> + 0.9 «« paper »» | 12:13 |
| done today | 12:14 |
| cya all tomorrow |
<eminitrader> | be back..stops in 1584 | 12:20 |
<Guest35179> | short 856.2 | 12:25 |
| out 855.9 +.3 | 12:27 |
| short 856.6 |
| out 856.1 +.5 | 12:28 |
<szubaark> | ok.. Overnight High Stops just got popped..lets see what now | 12:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 857.20 -> small size | 12:33 |
| :( | 12:38 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 856.50 --> - 0.7 | 12:43 |
| ooops |
| will correct |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 857.50 --> + 0.3 |
<Nesi> | do you use X-trader execution plataform... Niha? | 12:44 |
<eminitrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1584 --> - 4 |
| late post |
| [10:46:38] <eminitrader> looks like a creeper uptrend on the ES.....shld have stuck with this ...original target for that long was 1585.50...got hit to the tick..:(( | 12:51 |
| stop was way beyond my tolerance though..wld never have made it | 12:52 |
| was expecting support to come in the 1577 area | 12:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | Nesi...yes | 12:57 |
<Nesi> | thanks |
| they sent me a demo yesterday |
| i do have infinityAT tho |
<NihabaAshi> | TT sent the demo? | 12:58 |
<Nesi> | yes |
| well ..the guys from x-traders |
<NihabaAshi> | I've been considering lately of opening another trading account as a backup (I already have other backups) with Infinity. | 12:59 |
<Nesi> | infinity its pretty good..imo |
<NihabaAshi> | In fact, the two I'm considering is Infinity and Open eCry | 13:00 |
<Nesi> | eCry? |
| eCry.com ? |
<Guest35179> | I'm w Openecry and pretty good so far |
<Nesi> | may i have the URL..please | 13:01 |
<Guest35179> | openecry.com |
<Nesi> | thx |
<NihabaAshi> | http://www.openecry.com | 13:02 |
| They jump to my consideration list after getting connection to Euronext exchange |
<bern> | although their euronext connection is only working for the moment for euronext london | 13:03 |
| euronext liffe |
| not euronext paris and others | 13:04 |
| so you can trade ftse but not cac |
<NihabaAshi> | Ahhh...ok...thanks for the headsup about that. |
<bern> | i asked and they told me that would implement in future but that was 1 month ago and no news | 13:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | DAX and CAC40 are my favorite trading instruments...I prefer them then trading ER2. | 13:06 |
<bern> | you should consider moving to old Europe :) |
<Guest35179> | what are the trading hours for cac40 |
<NihabaAshi> | However, due to family reasons...I'm unable to get up that early in the morning to properly trade the DAX and CAC40 in comparison to the past when I was single :) |
<bern> | :) | 13:07 |
<Pepe> | :) |
<NihabaAshi> | I would need to get up around 1am est in the morning. | 13:08 |
| Spouse doesn't mind me going to bed late (1am est) but getting up that early is too tough. |
<yayaa> | hello all,new to room | 13:19 |
<eminitrader> | welcome :)) |
<yayaa> | thanks,got thru the maze,difficult for me | 13:20 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1585.75 | 13:21 |
<NihabaAshi> | Hi yayaa...sorry about the difficulty in arriving as a registered member. | 13:22 |
<eminitrader> | 10 lot |
<NihabaAshi> | It's designed that way to keep out the spammers or problematic posters whenever I'm force to password protect the room. |
<yayaa> | understood,why is my name not listed to the right? | 13:23 |
<NihabaAshi> | It is...I see it. |
<codehead> | it is |
| may be in the upper part of the list |
| as voiced | 13:24 |
<yayaa> | not me thats ok,now I'll work on the script:) lets get to the markets don't want to spend your time on this here during market hours,cheers and thanks again |
| thanks cone,see it now | 13:25 |
<codehead> | Ym a little stuck here |
| couldn't test the largish offer a tick above hod |
<bern> | nq and er not helping | 13:26 |
<codehead> | 14198.10 dow hod |
| tend to have a little res at century marks | 13:27 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1583.75 --> + 2 | 13:34 |
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<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 855.70 -> small size |
<eminitrader> | that makes up for the hit earlier in the previous trade...holding 5 | 13:35 |
<NihabaAshi> | a little downside pressure here in...same in other key markets. |
| Now a Dark Hammer Line is trying to form :( |
<ItalianSharp> | YM seems to have a mind of its own...earlier today when all eminis were bullish YM was bearish...now all eminis look more bearish and YM is still within striking distance from new fresh highs | 13:40 |
| basically...YM is decisive factor for major moves...if YM breaks down, we may see some nice selloff | 13:41 |
<codehead> | was thinking the same thing sharp--yesterday dow was the weak one, you'd have expected it to be the best short target today |
<intowin> | short ES @ 856.30 | 13:43 |
| er |
| didnt get my long order from this am so I will try short | 13:44 |
<Brutus> |
http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={8719e 8fd-a639-4ced-a9a0-c5ba553a8c9f} |
<intowin> | 857 stop |
<codehead> | Ym printed a buy signal on cci 5 min, might be getting some of them buying here | 13:46 |
| nothing on the others |
<ItalianSharp> | we have treasury budget coming up at 2pm | 13:47 |
<eminitrader> | thx IS...was not aware | 13:49 |
<intowin> | briefing.com is saying it may be delayed however | 13:51 |
<codehead> | on my schedule i see "treasury budget 2:00 pm--may be delayed" |
| whatever that means |
<ItalianSharp> | trading YM lately is like watching paint dry...the good summer days are indeed over |
<eminitrader> | hehehe |
<NihabaAshi> | shallow WRB pt1 right now :( |
<yayaa> | short YM here @ 255 | 13:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 855.20 --> + 0.5 | 13:54 |
<asuni> | nq going to the gap |
<ItalianSharp> | NQ new lows...LMAO |
<yayaa> | covered YM short here @ 245 +10 pts. | 13:55 |
<ItalianSharp> | nice yayaa |
<yayaa> | thanks |
<ItalianSharp> | this move might setup a counter move in 5mins when the treasury budget is released |
<codehead> | nice--i shorted same place, but got chicken and took 4--doh |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1581.75 --> + 4 | 13:56 |
| holding 2 |
<szubaark> | nice emini |
<eminitrader> | thx szu.. |
<intowin> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 854.60 --> + 1.7 |
<szubaark> | im still holding Short |
<intowin> | er |
<bern> | nq really weak | 14:00 |
| closed the gap |
<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 852.90 --> + 3.4 | 14:01 |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1579.75 --> + 6 |
<codehead> | nice |
<intowin> | woohoo |
<eminitrader> | holding 1 |
<intowin> | done for the day goal met |
<Guest35179> | long 853.1 |
<bern> | very nice |
<eminitrader> | good job itw |
<intowin> | thanks u2 |
<Brutus> | nice, u guys not holing for the ES gap ? |
<szubaark> | im | 14:02 |
<eminitrader> | holding 1 B |
<Brutus> | good job |
<szubaark> | That was my plan since the frikin Opening, holding for the Gap close ES |
<intowin> | whats funny is I was out all morning and came in right as the setup for short was happening |
<eminitrader> | thx u still in B |
<Brutus> | Short ER |
<eminitrader> | k | 14:03 |
<Guest35179> | out 852.7 -.4 |
<Tim_a1> | nice, em |
<intowin> | is this due to treasury at 2? whats up? | 14:04 |
<szubaark> | Intowin this smells like Institution dumping together |
<eminitrader> | thx T | 14:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | 2pm est Treasury Budget |
<szubaark> | The way this was creeping higher i figured tankage like this was coming,ive seen this movie before | 14:06 |
<eminitrader> | :)) |
| lol |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 851.50 -> small size | 14:08 |
| 2 only |
<intowin> | E your last contract may make you more than the others all together lol |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1577 --> + 3 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Will be a tough short |
<intowin> | glad I made it back before my 1575 order filled long lol |
<szubaark> | Niha i see Red WRB's everywhere :( | 14:09 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1580 «« paper »» |
<intowin> | even though I am not in this sure is pretty |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 851.20 --> + 0.3 |
| :( | 14:10 |
| got bucked off the Bronco |
<yayaa> | Sz,WRB's? |
<szubaark> | Wide Range Bodies (candle with a large Body) | 14:11 |
<Brutus> | dang high volume 50k bar on 5 min |
| Bear flag forming | 14:12 |
<szubaark> | you cant miss them on a chart, they're everywhere, but understanding them and trading them is another story :)) |
<intowin> | call me crazy but I am tempted to stay around for a long |
<NihabaAshi> | With this expanding volatility... | 14:13 |
| I won't be looking for a trend day any time soon :) |
| Shorts ER2 @ 848.50 -> small size | 14:14 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1574.75 --> + 5.25 «« paper »» |
<Brutus> | brave short |
<NihabaAshi> | tought trade but this time I got some support from other key markets.... |
<szubaark> | ES Gap closed. | 14:15 |
<NihabaAshi> | makes it also easy to position reverse if I'm wrong. |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1575.75 --> + 10 |
<Brutus> | vn nice :)) |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 849.00 --> - 0.5 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 849.00 |
<eminitrader> | thx B |
<szubaark> | Tenner for emini! | 14:16 |
<ItalianSharp> | did ES close its gap? |
<intowin> | nice |
<eminitrader> | not yet |
<Brutus> | close but not yet |
<ItalianSharp> | ok |
| thanks |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 847.80 --> - 1.2 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 847.80 |
<ItalianSharp> | it looked like ti missed by a couple of ticks |
<szubaark> | 2 more ticks :)) |
<Guest35179> | short 847 |
<ItalianSharp> | closed right? | 14:17 |
<szubaark> | i have it closed |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 846.90 -> Add |
<Guest35179> | out 846.2 +.8 |
<yayaa> | YM's could come down to 150 |
<intowin> | 73 taken out scratch that desire to go long lol |
| any news? | 14:18 |
<szubaark> | Yeah, whats going on? |
<Pepe> | wow | 14:19 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 844.00 --> + 2.9 |
| Geeesh |
<yayaa> | Mrs. Clinton on CNBC |
<intowin> | I just see some news on mortgages again same ol same ol |
<Tim_a1> | they sure borked the longs |
<yayaa> | Bingo YM's hit 150 PP and bounce |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 845.00 --> + 2.8 |
| Dark Hammer Line trying to form. | 14:20 |
<ItalianSharp> | wow, who would have thoguht the treasury budget could produce such volatility??? |
<intowin> | I Think a lot of folks want long term short at all time highs |
<NihabaAshi> | Italian...the treasury budget does it like this sometimes. |
<bern> | big big volume |
<ItalianSharp> | wow, TS can't keep up with this speed | 14:21 |
<intowin> | dead cat in da house | 14:23 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 845.90 -> small size | 14:25 |
| 1 only...playing the Dead Cat bounce |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 845.20 --> - 0.7 | 14:26 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 845.20 |
| Key markets rolled over again but my position reversal was late :( | 14:27 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 841.80 --> + 3.4 | 14:28 |
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<intowin> | man | 14:29 |
<Pepe> | nice |
<NihabaAshi> | Geeesh...caught a big Dark WRB pt1 |
| When volatility is this high... |
| Not wise to hold onto losers to long :) | 14:30 |
| Dump em or reverse em. |
<Tim_a1> | makings of a nasty daily candle | 14:31 |
<Pepe> | ES has good Volume :) on 5 min chart ...92,000 |
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<yayaa> | Could see YM's 075 by EOD(S1) | 14:32 |
| short YM 140 | 14:35 |
<Brutus> | 10/11/2007 14:30 *DJ ECB's Weber: Ready To Act In A Firm And Timely Manner |
<intowin> | well hate to do it but have hair appt. gotta go. I will be bullish til 1560 is taken out es. Looks like that may happen today lol |
<Guest35179> | short 843.1 |
| out 842.5 +.6 | 14:36 |
<yayaa> | Covered 1/2 YM's @ 120 +20pts |
| stop for remaining @ 130 | 14:37 |
| taken out @ 130 +10 pts. |
<Guest35179> | so what is it about the treasury report that's making the market do this? where does one find this report and how it's translated into market? if anyone knows | 14:38 |
* bern | is now known as bern_away | 14:39 |
<szubaark> | after such Volatility drop, woudnt be suprised if we chop rest of day. |
<Tim_a1> | spx looks like it hit upper trend line drawn above june & july tops | 14:40 |
<Guest35179> | 845.5 long |
| 845.8 +.3 out | 14:41 |
| 845 short | 14:42 |
| out 845.9 -.9 | 14:45 |
| long 846 |
| out 845.6 -.3 | 14:46 |
| long 846.2 | 14:47 |
| out 846.8 +.6 | 14:48 |
<Brutus> | guest why dont you load the trade posting script? | 14:53 |
<zik_> | buy Euros before japan open |
<yayaa> | loading script is my next challenge:) | 14:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | I think Guest is using the Brower log-in method. | 14:55 |
| Script only works from within the mIRC program |
<Brutus> | ok |
| Guest please continue to post your trades | 15:00 |
<yayaa> | Say hello to my YM friend 070 | 15:07 |
<Guest35179> | ok, i'm back-i see it's tanking some more |
| any clue as to this selloff? | 15:13 |
<Brutus> | Close to LOD |
<Guest35179> | what's lod? |
<Nesi> | 837.6 | 15:14 |
<Brutus> | low of the Day |
<Nesi> | buy ER 838.40 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 838 «« paper »» | 15:15 |
| paper as computer cant keep up :(( | 15:16 |
<Nesi> | out ER 839.40 |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 840 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 15:17 |
<Nesi> | vn |
<Brutus> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 838 --> 0 «« paper »» | 15:19 |
| Long ER2 @ 838 «« paper »» | 15:20 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 837 --> - 1 «« paper »» |
<yayaa> | S2 for YM @ 14000,possible by EOD? | 15:21 |
<Nesi> | buy ER 837.20 | 15:22 |
| late post |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 837.7 «« paper »» |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 837.5 --> - 0.2 «« paper »» | 15:23 |
<Nesi> | i feel we saw low of day on ER...imho | 15:26 |
<Guest35179> | too fast to be posting |
<Nesi> | yeah |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 836.7 «« paper »» | 15:27 |
<Nesi> | power up...ER...please |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 838.1 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» | 15:28 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 836.7 --> 0 «« paper »» | 15:29 |
<intowin> | OMGoodness... I took a short before I left at 1575 with a tight stop. I am up nearly plus 20 | 15:31 |
<Nesi> | wow |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 836.2 «« paper »» |
<intowin> | we also are breaking a key 1560 support area |
| may hold this one overnight |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 837.2 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 15:32 |
<yayaa> | Living clean has its benefits In |
<Nesi> | i am in at 837.4... i will keep hard stop at 835 , fwiw |
<intowin> | yeah hard call. I only went short one. | 15:33 |
| probably best to exit |
<Brutus> | sa0e st6/SS |
| same stop |
<Nesi> | 2 points stop its rare for me |
| went to fast |
| weird feel we close above 840..we will see | 15:34 |
<Brutus> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 838.2 --> + 2 «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | nice brutus |
<Brutus> | thx |
<Nesi> | out from 837.40 at 839 |
| pure luck |
<yayaa> | Short YM 062 | 15:36 |
<Brutus> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 839.1 --> + 2.9 «« paper »» | 15:38 |
<Guest35179> | short 838.5 | 15:39 |
<yayaa> | Covered 1/2 YM's @ 050 + 12 pts. |
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<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 838.3 «« paper »» | 15:43 |
<Guest35179> | out 838.2 +.3 |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 839.3 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
| Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 839.7 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» | 15:45 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 840 --> + 1.7 «« paper »» | 15:46 |
<werner> | nice brutus | 15:47 |
<Brutus> | thx |
| Look at that ES 10 pt bounce |
<werner> | yep | 15:48 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away | 15:54 |
<eminitrader> | hi guys ...hehehge...hope u made a killing ...:))) | 15:55 |
<intowin> | E I got a lucky short before I left and am currently short 1575 one contract. Since we broke 1560 would you hold overnight? | 15:56 |
| just curious |
<eminitrader> | NO |
<intowin> | thanks |
<eminitrader> | enough to be made during the day .. | 15:57 |
<intowin> | yeah |
<eminitrader> | why risk it |
<intowin> | feels like 60 was some key support however |
<eminitrader> | broke thru 1556 ...key support on the SP | 15:58 |
<Brutus> | All will be OK Friday S&P only down .47% |
<eminitrader> | :)) |
| no want it to be like today..:)) |
| cld easily make a million every yr...if every trading day has such voltility | 15:59 |
<Brutus> | the bear is coming E its a coming |
<intowin> | yeah crazy. I took a short before I left with a tight stop. When I cam back 45 minutes later I was uup 900 bucks one contract | 16:00 |
| now only 450 bucks |
<eminitrader> | dont think so B.. |
<Brutus> | Ithink between now and 6 months | 16:01 |
<eminitrader> | ita got some more to go...not everyone is still in |
<Brutus> | yeah thats what I think |
<eminitrader> | yep that i agree...sometime next yr |
<Brutus> | But when I does it will be a good year/years | 16:02 |
<eminitrader> | u might laugh but long term i see the SP 1625 area then a major correction then 1700.....followed by a bull mrkt... | 16:03 |
| sorry not bull BEAR mrkt |
| 1700-1750 is the area i think for the turn down |
| may take 12-18 months to work out ...but its coming | 16:04 |
<Brutus> | I hopefully I will be ready :)) |
<eminitrader> | sure...practice time is plenty:)) | 16:05 |
| hopefully i will be @ 50 lots by then to take advantage of the volatility |
<Brutus> | yep July/Aug gave some good data | 16:06 |
<eminitrader> | did around 80 today...but not in a single trade |
| well anyways ...have a good one | 16:07 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:08 |
| DJIA down 67.23 points to 14011.46 |
| NASDAQ down 39.85 points to 2771.76 |
| S&P 500 down 7.65 points to 1554.82 |
| 10-year T-note up 2/32 at 100 26/32 yield 4.643 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $1.78 at $83.08/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro up 0.0041 at 1.4187 |
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<werner> | gn all | 16:12 |
<NihabaAshi> | A great trading day. | 16:15 |
| Hope all made a lot of money today and/or took some great trading notes to document and learn about today's price action. | 16:16 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away | 16:19 |
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