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| Session Start: Wed Oct 10 07:59:05 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
| #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 08:28 |
<Dmi76> | gm all | 09:01 |
* bern_away | is now known as bern | 09:05 |
<bern> | hi, good morning | 09:06 |
<base> | GM all | 09:18 |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:27 |
<werner> | gm all | 09:33 |
<ripsboy> | good morning folks.. | 09:34 |
<pat255> | gm all |
| stuck @office :( |
<NihabaAshi> | #FuturesTrades Purpose -> To document your own trades and thoughts as you traverse from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information you cannot get from your broker statements (real money or simulator)...use this room as your trade journal. | 09:35 |
<pat255> | L 72.25 es | 09:40 |
| add 71.5 | 09:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 849.30 -> medium size | 09:49 |
| My Oil data just stalled (stopped)... | 09:51 |
| :( |
* subq | almost forgot to post market profile charts for today, they were there though |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/1 0/ym_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/1 0/nq_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/1 0/es_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/10/1 0/er2_rth_mp.png |
<NihabaAshi> | There's also a 10am est key market event | 09:52 |
| We may also see some volatility near 1030am est today because many traders will have forgotten that the Weds 1030am est EIA Petroluem report gets moved to Thurs whenever there's a Monday holiday. | 09:53 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1571.25 «« paper »» |
<Brutus> | 1000/1400 Aug Wholesale Trade |
| Inventories +0.3% +0.2% |
<pat255> | all out es...:( | 09:55 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 848.20 --> - 1.1 | 09:57 |
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<pat255> | thks N | 10:00 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 847.8 «« paper »» | 10:01 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 847.8 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:02 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 847.90 -> large size |
<szubaark> | almost no volatility after the 10am news | 10:04 |
| market waiting on Chrysler news | 10:05 |
<base> | It is ranging in the Pivot Range (847.10 - 850.00). |
<bern> | Chrysler news? |
<szubaark> | UAW and Chrysler strike details out at 11 am |
<bern> | thanks szu |
<szubaark> | im sure big boys get the leak first | 10:06 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 847.50 --> + 0.4 |
<szubaark> | then we will hear it on the News channels |
| Exited all Long ES at 1569 --> - 2.25 «« paper »» | 10:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 846.90 -> small size | 10:12 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1568.75 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | A few earlier Dark Hammer Lines that may want price to retrace back upwards to test the price range of the lower shadows. |
| oh oh...volatility dropping fast. | 10:16 |
<intowin> | should get a bounce here | 10:17 |
<bern> | nq looks stronger than ym and es, dax and estoxx look like wanting to go up after bottoning... | 10:18 |
<NihabaAshi> | My patience has reached its limits on this trade... | 10:21 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 848.00 --> + 1.1 | 10:23 |
| exited within the lower shadow of that prior Dark Hammer Line (10am est via 2min chart). | 10:24 |
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<intowin> | range in this area till word is out on the strike imo | 10:39 |
<Brutus> | 10/10/2007 09:43 *DJ Greenspan: Odds Of Skirting Recession Better Than 50/50 | 10:41 |
<ItalianSharp> | I believe Greenspan has lost most of his credibility recently...he's been contradicting himself over and over and he always seems to be negative on the economy when his latest book is about to be released | 10:44 |
| Greenspan should do like any old man: enjoy his pension and shut the hell up | 10:45 |
<Brutus> | hes gotta keep those $'s rolling in :) |
<ItalianSharp> | yep...he's just too greedy | 10:47 |
<Brutus> | Ben B must pound the table yelling STFU | 10:48 |
<Tim_a1> | the problem with greenspan is that he's always put so much effort into not being understandable | 10:53 |
| if he knew the truth, and told the truth, he'd deliberately tell it in a way that would make you think he's misleading you |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 2569 --> + 1000.25 «« paper »» | 10:54 |
| Exited all Long ES at 1569 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» |
<bern> | nice trade :) | 10:55 |
<szubaark> | missed my Target by 1 frikin tick |
<bern> | sorry, that happens..like when your stop is hit and then it turns and goes for big move without reentry :( | 10:56 |
<Brutus> | 10/10/2007 10:56 GEN: Union Officials at Chrysler's Mich. Plant standing near gates readying pickets - This is being reported by Reuters, citing a Witness. | 10:57 |
| 10/10/2007 11:04 *DJ Chrysler Workers Start To Walk Out As Union Deadline Passes | 11:04 |
<szubaark> | market clearly watching the strike Very Closely. |
<bern> | szu: do you really think market gives so much important to this? I would thought of it as a minor economic news ...but sure I am wrong | 11:16 |
<Brutus> | looks like ES db is at risk of failing | 11:19 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1571.50 «« paper »» | 11:30 |
* bern | is now known as bern_away | 11:34 |
<base> | The ER2 is still and exactly within the mentioned pivot range. | 11:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 849.10 -> small size | 11:42 |
| 1 only...trying something new |
<base> | Trading the tunnel? |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm trading a s/r zone between 849.60 - 848.20 | 11:44 |
<base> | I am expecting bigger pressure on the upper side but I can be wrong. The upper side of the pivot range is resisting for twenty minutes already. | 11:46 |
<Brutus> | 10/10/2007 11:35 HOT: Boeing-BA announces six-month delay in planned deliveries of the 787 Dreamliner | 11:47 |
| leading to YM weakness | 11:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 848.20 --> + 0.9 | 11:50 |
<szubaark> | Nice Niha. |
<base> | Very nice. | 11:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | Too bad it was only one contract...would have held longer had I had an extra contract to play with. |
<base> | Just aproached the lower band of the range, what now ... |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1570 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» | 11:54 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1571.50 «« paper »» |
<bern_away> | CORRECT: Boeing delays Dreamliners delivery to Q4 2008 | 11:56 |
| http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/bo eing-delays-dreamliners-delivery-q4/stor y.aspx?guid=%7B955BBB8D%2D879F%2D4F17%2D A80D%2D13E498F131B0%7D&dist=hplatest | 11:57 |
<Brutus> | see how initially BA was bid up on the news ant YM has that last surge now BA is down 2.3% | 11:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm going to make an exception here... | 12:03 |
| Stock trading discussion is allowed if its immediately tied into what the Index futures are doing. |
| However, discussing stocks without providing any info about how that particular stock is affecting Index futures is not allowed. | 12:04 |
<bern_away> | ok, sorry: did not realize about it. | 12:05 |
<szubaark> | All i know about stocks is i have them in my IRA and look at them once a month LOL |
| had a few associates that blew up pretty hard Daytrading stocks. All you hear is horror stories. | 12:07 |
<Brutus> | true for any daytrading SZU |
<szubaark> | heheh.. just got my mail, got some junk from OptionWizard (99.92% Profitible Trades) :) | 12:10 |
<base> | lol | 12:17 |
| If they were able to trade with that kind of accuracy, they would not have to do anything else, including to send junk mails. :) | 12:18 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 846.90 -> small size | 12:20 |
| 1 only |
<intowin> | this is a little late I just got back and my buy limit at 1568.50 triggered. Only trade today 1567.75 stop | 12:21 |
| Long ES @ 1568.50 |
| gotta run will go for a stop out or win whichever I get by 2 pm | 12:22 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 844.30 --> - 2.6 | 12:36 |
| ooops :) |
| will correct |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 848.30 --> + 1.4 | 12:37 |
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<Brutus> | Shorts ER2 @ 849.6 «« paper »» | 12:49 |
<szubaark> | Brutus u mean 848.6? | 12:50 |
<Brutus> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 847.8 --> + 1.8 «« paper »» | 12:51 |
| yes |
| +.8 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 847.5 --> + 2.1 «« paper »» | 12:52 |
<szubaark> | nice |
<Brutus> | +1.1 |
| triple bottom on ES and DB on NQ in trouble | 12:53 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 848.7 «« paper »» | 12:54 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 848.6 --> + 0.1 «« paper »» | 12:55 |
<Guest35179> | short 848.3 | 12:58 |
| out 847.5 +.8 | 13:02 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1567.75 --> + 3.75 «« paper »» | 13:04 |
<Brutus> | g66D TRADE sZ4 | 13:05 |
<szubaark> | thx. |
<Brutus> | good trade |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1568 «« paper »» | 13:07 |
<bern_away> | tnotes and bund breaking highs | 13:09 |
<Brutus> | YM below Yest low | 13:10 |
<Guest35179> | short 845 | 13:18 |
| out 844.3 +.7 | 13:19 |
| looking to test 842 | 13:21 |
<Trader222> | comeon, few more ticks | 13:29 |
<szubaark> | time to close the gap now LOL | 13:30 |
<Trader222> | covered here from yesterday's eod 1575 short, wanted 1565, close enuf | 13:31 |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1567.75 | 13:38 |
| late |
| done for the day | 13:39 |
| sorry that is a cover |
| -.75 on earlier long |
<Pepe> | Hi szubaark | 14:00 |
| where is your Stop Loss? |
<Guest35179> | short 844.7 | 14:08 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 14:09 |
<Nesi> | buy ER 847 | 14:28 |
| stop ER at 846 hard, fwiw | 14:33 |
| buy YM 115 |
| stop 104 stop hard too..fwiw |
<szubaark> | Exited 1/2 Long ES at 1570 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 14:34 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1568 «« paper »» |
| Pepe, I change my Stop based on what i see in current Price Action. AFter that bounce@1565 my Stop was there in case went back which never did | 14:38 |
| But dont get me wrong, I KNOW my Stops are still too wide to to be Constantly Profitible in this Racket. | 14:39 |
<Pepe> | :) thanks | 14:40 |
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<Nesi> | out ER 847 even |
| out YM 115 flat...even |
| i does not feel right |
| i will buy 847.50 if hits and stop 846.80, fwiw | 14:42 |
| in |
| if if i am right..probably fast spike to 848 | 14:43 |
| with some luck.. always help |
<Guest35179> | out 847.7 -3 | 14:44 |
<szubaark> | ES gap still Open. |
<Nesi> | feels to me ER will close above 850 ..imho, just wierd feel |
<Brutus> | Shorts ER2 @ 848.4 «« paper »» | 14:45 |
<ItalianSharp> | ES and NQ within striking distance from making new highs |
<szubaark> | agree Italian, just whacking High off day Stops should run ES to close gap. |
<Brutus> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 848 --> + 0.4 «« paper »» | 14:47 |
<ItalianSharp> | in addition, YM cleaned up some weak longs running stops below the last 2 days lows |
| lets see...lots of time left |
| oil has been flying all day | 14:48 |
| amazing run |
<szubaark> | up? | 14:49 |
<Nesi> | feels this little momo may probably take ER above 849 |
| imo |
| NQ 1 point from day high..if i am right |
<Brutus> | Covered ER2 Short @ 848.4 --> 0 «« paper »» |
| :( | 14:50 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1572 --> + 4 «« paper »» |
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| see a little pullback here.. dont want part in it. | 14:51 |
<Nesi> | yeah..i saw it |
| 847 my stop... my entry was 847.50, fwiw | 14:52 |
| power up in the making..imo | 14:56 |
| probably NQ will take day high..imo | 14:57 |
| right now..it feels to me.. ER will aim for 853 855 area .. just guessing | 15:02 |
<ItalianSharp> | impressive rally by eminis | 15:05 |
| especially ES/NQ |
<Nesi> | out ER from 847.50 at 850.20 |
<ItalianSharp> | ER2 |
| YM looks like the redheaded stepchild beaten up |
<Nesi> | buy ER 850 | 15:07 |
| with stop 849.20 |
| buy 1 more ER at 849.50 | 15:13 |
| holding 2 |
| hard stop for both at 849 | 15:14 |
| if takes 850 this time.. i will probably be right for the ER to print above 853 ...imho | 15:15 |
| out 1 from 849.75 at 850.90 | 15:21 |
<Guest35179> | short 850.9 | 15:22 |
<Nesi> | i will hold last contract with stop 849.75.. all the way to 853 854 area... hard stop set, fwiw | 15:23 |
| feels to me this momo here it will take the ER day high..imho..very soon | 15:24 |
<Guest35179> | out 850.2 +.7 | 15:25 |
<Nesi> | stop hit | 15:28 |
| out last one even |
<Guest35179> | short 849.5 | 15:30 |
| out 849.5 even | 15:34 |
<Brutus> | Long ER2 @ 849.6 «« paper »» | 15:36 |
<werner> | gn all | 15:47 |
<Brutus> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 850.1 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 15:49 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 849.6 --> 0 «« paper »» | 15:54 |
| ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:02 |
| DJIA down 93.81 points to 14070.72 |
| NASDAQ up 5.73 points to 2809.64 |
| S&P 500 down 3.49 points to 1561.70 |
| 10-year T-note up 1/32 at 100 26/32 yield 4.644 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $1.04 at $81.30/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro up 0.0041 at 1.4144 |
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* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away | 16:51 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Wed Oct 10 17:00:12 2007 | 17:00 |
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