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| Session Start: Wed Oct 03 09:27:13 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<Pepe> | gm all |
<NihabaAshi> | Good morning all | 09:28 |
<Dmi76> | gm all |
<Brutus> | gm |
<NihabaAshi> | Anybody trade the Hang Seng HSI futures??? |
| Incredible price drop and I had the chance to watch it in realtime as it was occuring :) | 09:29 |
| Too bad I wasn't trading that early in the morning. |
<PapaJon> | gm all |
<ripsboy> | good morning all... | 09:31 |
<NihabaAshi> | #FuturesTrades Purpose -> To document your own trades and thoughts as you traverse from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information you cannot get from your broker statements (real money or simulator). | 09:32 |
<werner> | gm niha ,all |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1550.75 | 09:34 |
| Covered ES Short @ 1551.25 --> - 0.5 | 09:36 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1551.25 |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 over doing it :) | 09:37 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1551.25 -> Add |
| 10 now | 09:38 |
<NihabaAshi> | In fact, it has no support for what it currently is doing. |
<Dmi76> | Long ES @ 1551.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 535.20 -> medium size |
| meant 835.20 and not 535.20 | 09:39 |
<Pepe> | hmm |
<NihabaAshi> | :) |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1550.75 --> - 0.5 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1550.75 |
| 10 lot |
<NihabaAshi> | reposting trade |
| Shorts ER2 @ 835.20 -> medium size | 09:40 |
<Nesi> | hi all |
<Dmi76> | Exited ES Long @ 1550,50 --> + 1550,50 - 1551.50 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1550,50 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1550.75 «« paper »» | 09:41 |
<Nesi> | short ER 834.60 |
<eminitrader> | looking like a big down move coming |
<Nesi> | i am average 834.55 ER short now...fwiw | 09:42 |
<szubaark> | Overnight is in a downtrend so maybe continuation is what i see |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 833.60 --> + 1.6 |
| That was really "weird" to see ER2 move that strongly upwards after the opening bell when other key markets didn't do the same. | 09:43 |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1549.50 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1550.75 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1548.75 --> + 2.5 | 09:44 |
<Brutus> | great start guys |
<les> | niha - that spike was probably just a quick move to close the gap | 09:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 832.50 --> + 2.7 |
<werner> | nice niha | 09:46 |
<szubaark> | good start Niha.. first trade in the bank |
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<Dmi76> | Covered all ES Short @ 1549.50 --> + 1550,50 - 1549.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Les...I didn't know why it was going up and when stuff like that happens...I stay on the sidelines until something shows up that does make sense :) |
<les> | well i 'm suggesting why | 09:47 |
| was unusual for it to happen so rapidly tho |
<NihabaAshi> | Thanks |
<Dmi76> | breakeven after 2 trades |
<NihabaAshi> | Weak support here via Oil and Gold trying to stabilize after the price drop. |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 831.1 «« paper »» | 09:49 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 831.4 -> Add «« paper »» | 09:51 |
<Brutus> | 1000/1400 Sep ISM Non-Mfg Index | 09:56 |
| Non-Manufacturing Business |
| Index 54.8 55.8 |
| 1030/1430 Sep 28 US Energy Dept Oil Inventories |
| Crude Oil Stocks (in barrels) +1.8M |
| Gasoline Stocks (in barrels) +600K |
| Distillate Stocks (in barrels) +1.6M |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 830.20 -> small size |
<Nesi> | cover ER from 834.55 at 830 | 09:57 |
<les> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 829.9 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | buy ER 829.90 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1547.75 --> + 3 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1548 --> + 2.75 «« paper »» | 09:58 |
<eminitrader> | holding 2 |
<Nesi> | sell ER 830.40 from 829.90 |
<NihabaAshi> | I don't see any support showing up so far...everybody seems to be together....will dump the trade if other key markets decide to do their own thing. |
<Nesi> | buy ER 830.10 | 09:59 |
| with stop 829.50 |
| hit stop |
| buy ER 830 | 10:00 |
| with stop 829 |
<NihabaAshi> | wow...that's a lot of tick action or my system is slowing down |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 830.10 --> + 0.1 | 10:02 |
| :( |
<szubaark> | hmm.. some buyers stepping in here | 10:03 |
<Nesi> | SELL ER from 830 at 831.10 |
| short ER 831 with stop 832 | 10:04 |
| cover ER 830.50 from 831 | 10:06 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 830.3 -> Add «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | buy ER 831 |
| stop 830 |
<eminitrader> | Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1550 --> + 0.75 | 10:08 |
<Nesi> | sell ER 832 FROM 831 |
| BUY ER 831.90 | 10:10 |
| sell ER 831.50 | 10:11 |
| -.4 |
| short ER 831.50 | 10:12 |
| SHORT NQ 129.50 | 10:13 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1551.25 «« paper »» | 10:16 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 832.5 -> Add «« paper »» | 10:18 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 10:21 |
<blp> | short er 32.60 | 10:22 |
<Nesi> | COVER NQ 130.50 from 129.50 -1 |
| still holding ER from 831.50 |
<blp> | -.80 er all out | 10:23 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1552.50 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» |
| Buys ES @ 1552.75 «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | i am big in the wrong side |
<szubaark> | oopps i just jumped a Volatility candle to the upside- BAD ENTRY | 10:24 |
<blp> | er short 33.60 | 10:25 |
| stop 34.30 last trade | 10:26 |
<bern> | Crude Oil inventories in 4 min |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility declining in ER2...fast... | 10:31 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. |
<szubaark> | hopefully to upside, im Long. |
| gap still Open. | 10:32 |
<blp> | - .70 er | 10:34 |
<Nesi> | i am still holding er 831.50 , made a mistake and i did not hit the stop |
| be right back, guys | 10:35 |
<base> | GM all | 10:37 |
<ScreenStruck> | gm all | 10:39 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 831.90 -> small size | 10:41 |
| trying something new here |
<Nesi> | still in my short 831.50 , pure luck | 10:45 |
| after being down 3 points |
<les> | not really, nesi... |
| with such sharp rises and falls it was likely to come back at some point | 10:46 |
<Nesi> | i always keep my stops |
| out 832 from 831.50 -.5 ... good loss! :) | 10:47 |
<les> | well i'm holding out for another drop |
| may just trundle sideays tho |
<Nesi> | now a little break to punish myself for not keeping my stop , which i always do :) |
<Dmi76> | for how long have you been trading Nesi? |
<Nesi> | well, i have been working for two real time chartrooms , trading nasdaq, etc | 10:48 |
| for 10 years |
| i left them |
| and i dont recommend anyone to go to a room and pay for it :) |
<Dmi76> | ok | 10:49 |
<pdays> | Long ER2 @ 831. |
<Nesi> | now i just play futures |
<pdays> | Long ER2 @ 831.8 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 832.1 --> + 0.3 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 833.50 --> - 1.6 | 10:51 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 833.50 |
| reversed from 1 short into 2 long |
<Nesi> | short ER 833.50 with stop hard 834.30 | 10:52 |
<szubaark> | Niha did i see u enter on Volatility spike? |
<NihabaAshi> | Yes | 10:53 |
| no longer spiking :( |
<Nesi> | there it goes...Niha |
<szubaark> | I entered on the Prior WRB which retraced almost 100% BUT held Support. |
<Dmi76> | Long ES @ 1552.75 | 10:54 |
<Nesi> | hit my stop |
| out |
| buy ER 834.50 | 10:55 |
| 2 c |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1553.5 |
<Nesi> | feels like day high is a big magnet now..imho |
<Dmi76> | Exited all ES Long @ 1553.25 --> + 0.5 |
<Nesi> | feels like ER wants to spike to print 835 soon..imo | 10:57 |
| if so.. probably it will go for day high..imho |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 834.60 --> + 1.1 | 10:58 |
<szubaark> | Exited 1/2 Long ES at 1553.75 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1554 -> Add |
<szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1552.75 «« paper »» |
<Nesi> | come on 835 | 10:59 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1554 -> Add | 11:00 |
| now holding 10 |
<Brutus> | Shorts ER2 @ 834.4 «« paper »» |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1553.25 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» | 11:01 |
| Shorts ES @ 1553.25 «« paper »» |
<les> | back later |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1553 --> + 1 |
* les | is now known as lesAway |
<Nesi> | vn |
<eminitrader> | avg 1553.87.50 | 11:02 |
| thyx N |
<Nesi> | i am in 4 c ER at 834.50 | 11:06 |
| sold 2 at 835 | 11:07 |
| hold 2 now |
| feels i probably can get 836.50 837 area...we will see |
<Brutus> | Covered ER2 Short @ 834.4 --> 0 «« paper »» | 11:14 |
<Nesi> | sold 1 more ER at 835.50 | 11:16 |
| holding last one |
| for 837 area...or stop at 834.50 to be flat |
| out last ER at 835.50 | 11:24 |
| short ER 835.30 | 11:25 |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1554 --> - 0.5 |
<tim_a> | . | 11:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 836.00 -> small size | 11:41 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 835.00 --> - 1 | 11:45 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 835.00 |
| reversed from 1 Long into 2 Shorts | 11:46 |
| Long was something new I'm working on. |
| So far today, new stuff getting their butts beat. |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1554.50 | 11:47 |
| exit stop set ES @ 1556.25 | 11:48 |
<Dmi76> | Shorts ER2 @ 835.1 |
<eminitrader> | Exited ES Long @ 1554.25 --> + 0.75 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1554.25 |
| no wrong |
| Covered ES Short @ 1554.25 --> 0 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1554.25 |
| see all time new highs ... | 11:49 |
| :)) |
<intowin> | very possible. I like entrys where I can have a nice tight stop.. worth a shot here.. | 11:50 |
<Dmi76> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 835.5 --> - 0.4 |
| Long ES @ 1555.25 | 11:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 835.80 --> - 0.8 |
<Dmi76> | prefer es now its alittle smoother |
<NihabaAshi> | Oil and Gold decided to give support to the upside :( |
<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 1556.25 --> - 1.75 | 11:52 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1556.25 --> - 3 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1556.25 --> + 2 |
<intowin> | good call |
<eminitrader> | thx.. | 11:53 |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1556.25 «« paper »» |
<Guest35179> | short 836.5 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 836.30 -> large size | 11:56 |
<szubaark> | these creeper trends are tough to trade | 11:59 |
<eminitrader> | true szu...and i gotto leave shortly :( |
<Guest35179> | out 835.80 +.7 | 12:00 |
<szubaark> | might as well, its gonna take its time :) |
<Dmi76> | Exited all ES Long @ 1555.50 --> + 0.25 |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1555.25 --> + 1 |
<Dmi76> | lost my patience |
<NihabaAshi> | Creeper price action requires a different type of stop/loss management |
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<Guest35179> | short 835.90 | 12:02 |
| out 835.50 +.4 | 12:03 |
| short 835.80 | 12:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | Gold still declining :( | 12:09 |
<intowin> | Long ES @ 1555 |
<NihabaAshi> | Oil looks like it wants to join Gold. | 12:10 |
| If both can stabilize...it'll keep me from losing my patience in this trade. |
<intowin> | last trade here setting stop at 1553 |
| be back |
<NihabaAshi> | Oil trying to stabalize while Gold seems indecisive (up or down). | 12:11 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 835.50 --> - 0.8 | 12:15 |
| lost my patience and my support. |
| Going to lunch to re-energize. |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_lunch | 12:16 |
<Guest35179> | out 835.4 +.4 | 12:18 |
| short 835.90 | 12:19 |
| out 835.40 +.5 | 12:20 |
| short 836.50 | 12:22 |
| out 835.9 +.6 | 12:23 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 12:24 |
<NihabaAshi_lunch> | Long ER2 @ 836.10 -> small size | 12:51 |
* NihabaAshi_lunch | is now known as NihabaAshi |
<Dmi76> | Long ER2 @ 836.1 | 13:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 835.00 --> - 1.1 | 13:09 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 835.00 |
| 1 to 2 contracts on the reversal |
| Gold and Oil trying hard to put in a failed counter-thrust without retracing back up. | 13:10 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 833.80 --> + 1.2 | 13:11 |
<Dmi76> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 834.6 --> - 1.5 | 13:12 |
<NihabaAshi> | Be back later and if I don't return from my appointment... |
| The day will close as a small profit :( |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away | 13:13 |
<Nesi> | cover ER from 835.30 at 832.50 | 13:42 |
| done for day...have a good day all, see you tomorrow | 13:43 |
<tim_a> | nice one nesi |
<intowin> | late post | 14:10 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1553 --> - 2 |
| guess I shoulda stuck to my short guns | 14:12 |
| [11:47] <intowin> short ES @ 1554.50 |
| my stop was only run over by one tick |
| otherwise I would still be short |
| oh well done for the day |
<tim_a> | long ym 38 | 14:14 |
| sold/scratched ym at 39, should have blasted up by now | 14:22 |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 14:27 |
<szubaark> | theyn went up then down.. looks liike chasing little retail around all day LOL | 14:32 |
| Shorts ES @ 1547.50 «« paper »» | 14:37 |
<Guest35179> | long 829.50 | 14:41 |
| out 830.50 +1 | 14:42 |
<tim_a> | crappy no-follow through afternoon | 14:46 |
| at least not to the upside anyway |
| time 2:05 eastern really looked like a long signal | 14:47 |
<Guest35179> | long 828.8 | 14:48 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1547.75 --> - 0.25 «« paper »» | 14:51 |
<Guest35179> | out 829.60 +.8 | 14:52 |
<Brutus> | Nice trades Guest, when you got time give us an general overview of your charts/methods unless you already got a strat lab profile? | 14:55 |
| Long ER2 @ 830.8 «« paper »» | 15:39 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 830.3 --> - 0.5 «« paper »» | 15:41 |
<NihabaAshi_away> | Just got back from my appointment | 15:43 |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 15:44 |
<NihabaAshi> | Too bad I had to dump that profitable short early prior to its profit targets to leave for my appointment...would have been a big profitable trade. | 15:47 |
<Guest35179> | long 830.60 | 15:49 |
| out 831 +.4 | 15:50 |
| short 831.2 | 15:52 |
| out 830.7 +.5 |
<tim_a> | vicious [rice action this afternoon | 15:56 |
<Guest35179> | short 831 | 15:57 |
| out 831.2 -.2 | 15:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 831.30 -> small size | 15:59 |
| 1 only |
<Guest35179> | short 831.80 |
| out 832 -.2 | 16:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 832.50 --> + 1.2 |
<Guest35179> | short 832.60 |
| out 831.9 +.7 | 16:01 |
<NihabaAshi> | I didn't reach my profit goal for the day but I did finish profitable with all the distractions today involving some personal stuff. | 16:04 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== |
| DJIA down 87.06 points to 13961.67 |
| NASDAQ down 19.68 points to 2727.43 |
| S&P 500 down 7.86 points to 1538.74 |
| 10-year T-note down 6/32 at 101 19/32 yield 4.544 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude down $0.08 at $79.97/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0054 at 1.4094 |
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<Guest35179> | my platform froze. what's the latest price for er2? | 16:17 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_AWAY | 16:18 |
<sep34_AWAY> | 832.50 | 16:19 |
<Guest35179> | thanks |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for traders and intermarket analysis of Emini Futures (EMD, ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, XLE, QQQQ, SPY) | 16:33 |
<werner> | gn all | 16:37 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away | 17:32 |
* lesAway | is now known as les | 17:54 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Wed Oct 03 18:38:00 2007 | 18:37 |
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