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| Session Start: Fri Sep 21 08:48:51 2007Session Ident: #FuturesTrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<pat255> | gm all | 08:50 |
<werner> | gm all |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:21 |
<Dmi76> | gm all | 09:23 |
<PapaJon> | Reminder.. today is Quad-Witching day |
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* subq | market profile charts today | 09:32 |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/2 1/er2_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/2 1/es_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/2 1/nq_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/2 1/ym_rth_mp.png | 09:33 |
<eminitrader> | nice sell set-up...low risk | 09:42 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1539.25 «« paper »» | 09:43 |
| exit stop set ES @ 1542.25 «« paper »» |
<Tim_a> | july 23rd resistence, e? | 09:44 |
<eminitrader> | pa set-up |
<Tim_a> | pa? |
| never mind, slow this morning |
<eminitrader> | price actio after theclose of 3 min bar @ ( : 39 est | 09:45 |
| ..ideal sell 1541.50 - 4 tick stop ...low risk high probability.. | 09:46 |
| thats what i meant |
| 9:39 est |
<szubaark> | yeah my Sell is at low of the range, high risk, but early morning looking for Volatility for followthru | 09:47 |
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<Tim_a> | wicks at top, green, then red, with same wick high? |
<eminitrader> | if it breks 1535 expect a gap fill | 09:48 |
<szubaark> | Why 1535? |
<eminitrader> | depends on how u read it... i read it as a fade..whuchever...either way ..like i said was low risk high probability | 09:50 |
| 1534-1535 area is support szu | 09:51 |
| on my charts---1538-1536 ..minor support | 09:52 |
| 1534-1536..major support | 09:53 |
| if nothing eslse ..can atleast expect a bounce off these levels |
| so ideal area to cover some and lock in part of the moolah :) | 09:54 |
| hope u were not long based on that bar tim | 09:55 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 818.8 «« paper »» | 10:02 |
<Tim_a> | what bar? i went short at the level you mentioned, (es small) |
<eminitrader> | k..cause u mentioned u read it as a bullish set-up | 10:03 |
<Tim_a> | no, i was agreeing with you - i read it as a 'tweezer top' | 10:04 |
<eminitrader> | glad u didn't get faked out :) |
<Tim_a> | thx |
<eminitrader> | may still get there ..but at that piont in time ..it was a nice sell | 10:05 |
<pat255> | it is crazy action .. |
| need fast fingers |
<les> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 819.6 --> + 0.8 «« paper »» | 10:06 |
<eminitrader> | looks like the mrkt is trying to decide which way to flow...making its intention..abt timne | 10:10 |
| be back.. | 10:11 |
* cmr | is now known as Candido | 10:36 |
<werner> | . | 10:37 |
| . | 10:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | I just got back from some personal stuff. | 11:01 |
| Les the only one trading today ??? |
<les> | even i havnt mich interest niha | 11:02 |
<pat255> | mkt in congestion ..very few moves .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Ok...I see szubarrk posted a trade. |
<pat255> | Ser 20.5 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yeah...I'm now taking my first look at the charts this morning. |
| Doesn't look like anything is worthwhile. |
<pat255> | tight stop .5 | 11:04 |
| they took it .. | 11:05 |
<szubaark> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1541.50 «« paper »» | 11:12 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 821.7 | 11:14 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 821.2 --> + 0.5 | 11:18 |
<bigjim98282> | wtg pdays |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 821.4 «« paper »» | 11:19 |
<szubaark> | Covered remainder Short ES at 1541.50 --> - 2.25 «« paper »» | 11:28 |
<pdays> | tnx bj |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1541.50 «« paper »» |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 822.4 -> Add «« paper »» | 11:32 |
<NihabaAshi> | Reminder -> #FuturesTrades chat room trade posting archived logs are posted @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm (today's log will be updated tonight by 9pm est) | 11:37 |
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<NihabaAshi> | The direct link to yesterday's chat log is @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/092007Futu resTrades.htm | 11:38 |
<pat255> | thks N |
* intowin-away | is now known as intowin | 11:48 |
<intowin> | They are getting dangerously close to my stop 24.10 : ( |
| Thats the only bad thing about leaving. I have to use wider stops |
| where is all the volatility quad witch brings? | 11:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 822.50 -> small size | 11:57 |
| 2 only |
<les> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 821.3 --> + 1.1 «« paper »» | 12:02 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 821.50 --> - 1 | 12:03 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 821.50 |
| reversed into a large Dark WRB...not the best entry. | 12:04 |
<intowin> | hope your on... here is my premarket entry |
| [07:43] <intowin-away> will be out till noon. gonna let a short run til I get back.. |
| [07:44] <intowin-away> short ES @ 820.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Could have gotten the reverse around 821.90 but got caught "watching" instead of "reacting". |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 12:08 |
<NihabaAshi> | Dark Hammer Line...be careful |
<intowin> | going for broke on this one 24.10 stop |
<Brutus> | On options Exp what time exactly is the expiration ? | 12:10 |
| for stocks |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility dropping fast |
<intowin> | 3pm | 12:11 |
<Brutus> | MAybe a selloff at 3 IT ? |
<intowin> | usually pretty volital all day. up down up down.. we had the up premarket I am looking for a down anytime | 12:12 |
<Brutus> | Aapl, goog ebay at 52 week highs and at max pain from what I can see |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 821.40 --> + 0.1 | 12:19 |
<les> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 822 --> - 0.6 «« paper »» | 12:20 |
| hmm - was +.40 in fact | 12:21 |
| done for today |
| cya all monday |
<intowin> | wow I am long cad and it just busted a 41 tic move in 4 minutes. Glad I am on the right side of that one |
<bigjim98282> | this chop is the reason I only traded the open short. | 12:23 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 823.20 -> medium size | 12:32 |
| 1 only |
<intowin> | just take profit below 24.10 NIha :) | 12:33 |
<NihabaAshi> | I don't have any wiggle room for that type of profit level :( |
| An entry aroung 822.20 would have kepted me in the trade for such | 12:34 |
<intowin> | thats where my stop is lol |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 823.40 --> + 0.2 |
<intowin> | just glad I am long the canadian dollar right now | 12:35 |
| if this trade bust it will keep me even |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 822.90 -> small size | 12:38 |
| 2 only |
| should have gone 3 |
| volatility dies quick today... | 12:39 |
| Charts looks like that it only last no more than 2mins after a volatility spike :( | 12:40 |
<Dmi76> | Shorts ER2 @ 822.9 |
<NihabaAshi> | The fact that ER2 has rising since 1045am est must keep the Longs still faithful. | 12:41 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 822.80 --> + 0.1 | 12:44 |
| volatility slowly rising and price got "too jumpy" |
<Dmi76> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 822.7 --> + 0.2 | 12:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 822.20 -> small size | 12:52 |
| Breakdown below a Dark Hammer Line |
| 2 only |
<Pepe> | nice | 12:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | I had a ton of help from the pending 1pm est speech |
<intowin> | who is talking today | 12:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | Fed Governor Warsh | 12:55 |
<intowin> | remind me to send him a Christmas card |
<Tim_a> | bush speeches are generally kind to bears | 12:56 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 821.10 --> + 1.1 | 12:59 |
| Lets see what happen soon after 1pm est. |
<ItalianSharp> | hopefully the prick speaking now can bring some volatility and wake up those mkts | 13:01 |
<NihabaAshi> | lol |
| volatility dropping...something will soon happen as in a volatility spike again. |
| exit stop lowered ER2 @ 821.70 | 13:03 |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 821.60 --> + 0.6 | 13:05 |
| need to ensure I am profitable for the trading day | 13:06 |
<ItalianSharp> | no volatility so far...guess nobody is listening to this guy today | 13:09 |
<NihabaAshi> | looks that way :( |
<ItalianSharp> | i am starting to lose hope that some volatility may come back...and trading under these conditions is very dangerous |
<intowin> | exit stop set ES @ 822.70 | 13:16 |
<ItalianSharp> | i am gonna go get some nice pizza at the best "pizzeria" here in town...i'll be back later and hopefully some miraculous volatility will be back |
* ItalianSharp | is now known as ItalianSharp_eating_ | 13:17 |
<Tim_a> | we need mary tyler moore - she can take a nothing day, and sudenly make it all seem worthwhile | 13:38 |
<szubaark> | who is she? Market Wizzz? | 13:39 |
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<werner> | gn all | 13:56 |
<intowin> | Delay of game over.. we have kick off | 13:57 |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1539.50 --> - 2 «« paper »» | 13:58 |
| Shorts ES @ 1539.50 «« paper »» |
<intowin> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 818.60 --> + 1.9 | 13:59 |
<szubaark> | Missed my +2 Target Fill by 1 TICK! on my Long | 14:00 |
<intowin> | : ( |
| this one had me sweating since 7.30 am | 14:01 |
<szubaark> | lets see if they close gap :)).. that would be nice.. i would have a good weekend |
<intowin> | exit stop set ES @ 820.50 | 14:02 |
| break even |
| someone must have thrown a flag on the play. back to delays | 14:20 |
| with this small swing so far I may just take what I can get | 14:41 |
| Covered 2/3 ES Short @ 817.50 --> + 3 |
<szubaark> | nice intowin | 14:42 |
<intowin> | exit stop set to break even plus one |
| thanks |
<szubaark> | u think ES gap close by end of day? | 14:43 |
<intowin> | Market is not doing at all what I thought so really dont know.. Just got lucky this didnt stop out this morning |
<szubaark> | for me i read this as trend is Down now, confirmed | 14:44 |
<intowin> | overall If I had to guess probably not. Looking to close out at one more point |
| quad witch usually breaks all the rules | 14:45 |
<Brutus> | IHS ? | 15:00 |
<Tim_a> | quad witch can have a spike out of nowhere that 'pins' to their strike price |
<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 819.50 --> + 1 | 15:04 |
* ItalianSharp_eating_ | is now known as ItalianSharp | 15:06 |
<ItalianSharp> | volatility seems to have improved a little...hopefully i wont jinx it...:) | 15:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 819.50 -> small size | 15:08 |
| 2 only |
| I give up because I have no patience today for this type of market day. | 15:11 |
<intowin> | got that right from 7.30 to 2pm to get my first profit crazy | 15:12 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 820.20 --> + 0.7 | 15:15 |
| I'm done for the trading day...will take my small profits and enjoy the weekend. | 15:16 |
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<intowin> | same here.. enjoy |
<NihabaAshi> | Nothing worst than closing a trading day with a loss on a slow day like today. | 15:17 |
<intowin> | yep off for some wakeboarding here in a few |
<NihabaAshi> | Especially it being a Friday. |
| Also, missing the first few hours of trading didn't help at all because I felt like I've been a few steps behind the market on each trade I did...a few steps as in I should'uv have better entries. | 15:19 |
| Take care all and have a good/safe weekend. |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away | 15:21 |
<rainer> | Shorts ER2 @ 820.1 |
<NihabaAshi_away> | Reminder -> #FuturesTrades chat room trade posting archived logs are posted @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm (today's log will be updated tonight by 9pm est) | 15:28 |
| The direct link to yesterday's chat log is @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/092007FuturesTrades.htm | 15:29 |
<rainer> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 819.10 --> + 1 | 15:34 |
<szubaark> | NQ nice triple Top for what its worth..could mean nothing on this low volume | 15:35 |
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<mrboso83756> | anyone have any idea to where i can get a full listing of stock traded in the united states and overseas? | 15:43 |
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<Brutus> | Back pain form sitting to long trading? | 15:53 |
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<szubaark> | :) | 15:56 |
| Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1537 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» | 16:01 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1539.50 «« paper »» |
| Covered all Short ES at 1537.50 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 16:02 |
<ItalianSharp> | nice finish szu | 16:04 |
| well at the LOD |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Fri Sep 21 16:26:42 2007 | 16:26 |
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