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| Session Start: Thu Sep 13 09:30:29 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
* Now | talking in #futurestrades | 09:30 |
<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<PapaJon> | reminder all.. today is rollover day |
<NihabaAshi> | Thanks PapaJon | 09:31 |
<PapaJon> | yw |
<pat255> | yes be careful low vol on dec contracts | 09:32 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 786.10 -> small size | 09:33 |
| 3 only |
<intowin> | my sprayer had some problems this am so I may be able to join for a little while gm | 09:34 |
<werner> | gm all | 09:35 |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1495 | 09:36 |
| sorry 94 |
| short ES @ 1494 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 784.20 --> - 1.9 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 784.20 |
<werner> | new tikkers? |
| contracts? | 09:37 |
<intowin> | I rolled |
<werner> | ok tx |
<NihabaAshi> | Now the price deciedes to get jumpy :( | 09:39 |
| Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 781.40 --> + 2.8 | 09:45 |
| Gold is falling but not Oil | 09:48 |
<intowin> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1492 --> + 2 |
<NihabaAshi> | If Oil joins in on the decline...I should be able to bag a 5 pointer on this remainder. |
| However, on the flip side... |
<intowin> | I always though oil and minis played opposite each other? | 09:49 |
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<NihabaAshi> | If Gold decides to stall or go up...it will shake me out of my remainder short |
| intowin...you talking about a 1 to 1 corellation. |
| I not talking about that. |
<intowin> | oh |
<NihabaAshi> | I use a 2 (Oil and Gold) to 1 (ER2) correlation. |
| Simply, there's no correlation if Oil and Gold aren't doing the same thing. | 09:50 |
<intowin> | I am still using my abasis over here lol |
<NihabaAshi> | Oil moving higher and Gold trying to stabilize. | 09:51 |
* subq | market profile charts for today | 09:52 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 782.20 --> + 2 |
* subq | http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/1 3/er2_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/1 3/es_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/1 3/nq_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/09/1 3/ym_rth_mp.png |
<eminitrader> | .. | 09:55 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1495 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1495.50 | 09:56 |
<szubaark> | exit stop set ES @ 1496 «« paper »» |
<eminitrader> | Covered all ES Short @ 1495.50 --> 0 | 09:58 |
| ym strong ...may pull the ES |
<pat255> | yes em ...ym gamgbusters |
<szubaark> | u had nice entry emini |
<eminitrader> | felt not worth the risk... |
<Tim_a> | spx stalled at 50 day ma, dow risin up to test it | 09:59 |
<werner> | indu daily triangle pattern here,maybe res | 10:01 |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1493.50 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» | 10:03 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1495 «« paper »» |
<pat255> | L 92.75 paper | 10:04 |
<werner> | http://sep13b.imghost.us/PK4i.jpg | 10:05 |
<szubaark> | i wonder if changeover to Dec is causing all this chop |
<eminitrader> | nice szu |
<szubaark> | thx. runner on.... | 10:06 |
<NihabaAshi> | Dark Hammer line |
<Tim_a> | i think it's more the 40 day ma test |
<eminitrader> | nice call |
<Tim_a> | i 50 day |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1493 --> + 2 «« paper »» | 10:07 |
| Price stalled. |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 780.50 -> small size | 10:10 |
| 2 only |
| :( | 10:12 |
| I got some support but ER2 not responding to get the price back up within the range of upper price area of the Dark Hammer Line. | 10:13 |
<pat255> | ym came down but es refusing to break down.. | 10:14 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 781.30 --> + 0.8 | 10:16 |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 781.40 --> + 0.9 | 10:17 |
<pat255> | vn N ..missed the div on er... |
<szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1496 «« paper »» | 10:22 |
<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 1496.50 --> - 2.5 |
<szubaark> | Exited 1/2 Long ES at 1496.50 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1496 «« paper »» | 10:23 |
<eminitrader> | lot of connectivity pbs since yest.. |
<szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1496 --> 0 «« paper »» |
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<intowin> | es was leading now it doesnt want to run with er strange day so far | 10:36 |
| I still want to short this market today for some reason | 10:38 |
<Brutus> | Looks long IT, NQ needs to get above the I H&S neck line 10year and Dax very +ve | 10:42 |
<intowin> | oh I agree thats why I cant figure out why I want to short lol |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1497.75 «« paper »» | 10:46 |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility declining...I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. | 10:47 |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1496.75 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 10:48 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1497.75 «« paper »» | 10:49 |
<intowin> | Tight stops look like they are working better for you szu |
<szubaark> | any Volatility spike down Ill exit my remainder |
| Covered all Short ES at 1497.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 10:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 785.60 -> small size | 10:55 |
| 2 only |
| WRB pt1 reached but I'm unable to grab it as an exit :( | 11:01 |
<pat255> | k guys later ... | 11:07 |
| need to run some errands.. |
| ty all |
<NihabaAshi> | oh oh | 11:11 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 785.80 --> + 0.2 | 11:13 |
| I started losing my support at the 785.20 price area... |
| Thus, watching it move higher allowing my a profitable exit is LUCK. | 11:14 |
| On that note, I'm going to take an early lunch break. |
| Be back later. |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_lunch |
<X> | #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) | 12:27 |
* NihabaAshi_lunch | is now known as NihabaAshi | 12:44 |
<NihabaAshi> | volatility declining fast | 12:46 |
| Long ER2 @ 787.30 -> small size |
| 2 only |
| problem trade | 12:47 |
| volatility dropping fast again | 12:53 |
<intowin> | got bored with es and er not moving took a stab at the australian dollar... glad I did its the only thing moving... luckily in my direction | 12:56 |
<NihabaAshi> | I just lost my patience on this trade. | 12:57 |
| Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 788.10 --> + 0.8 | 12:59 |
| I just got back my patience :) | 13:01 |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 789.10 --> + 1.8 | 13:05 |
<intowin> | nice call | 13:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | :) |
<intowin> | I just cant shake my desire to try and find a short today.. |
| glad I havent persued .....YET | 13:08 |
| 1505 is r3 for es will c what happens there | 13:21 |
<Tim_a> | i have to admit, this market makes no sense to me |
| ym penant forming | 13:35 |
<intowin> | I am looking to scale into a es short with a 1506 stop |
| counter trend is usually not my friend but when they work I get my small stops back plus some | 13:38 |
<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1501.75 «« paper »» | 13:52 |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 1500.75 «« paper »» | 13:56 |
<szubaark> | Covered 1/2 Short ES at 1500.75 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 13:57 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1501.75 «« paper »» |
| Limit to Cover Short ES @ 1499 «« paper »» | 14:05 |
| either pops my Stop or get filled on Exit@1499.. be back | 14:06 |
<Brutus> | Exited ES Long @ 1501 --> + 0.25 «« paper »» | 14:11 |
<szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1501.75 --> 0 «« paper »» | 14:12 |
| :( |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1500 | 14:15 |
<szubaark> | shook me out :(( |
<intowin> | wanted 1504 again but will use wide stop |
| and add in bounce to average | 14:16 |
<Brutus> | ER still near HOD | 14:18 |
| Long ES @ 1499 «« paper »» | 14:19 |
<intowin> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1499 --> + 1 |
| balance at break even I may get a better shot |
<Brutus> | Exited ES Long @ 1500 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 1500 --> 0 | 14:20 |
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<intowin> | Long ES @ 1500 | 14:36 |
| giving up on my short for now |
| r3 is close and they probably want it | 14:37 |
<NihabaAshi> | Just got back... | 14:49 |
| Nice price movement. |
<Brutus> | 09/13/2007 14:32 *DJ OIL FUTURES: Nymex Crude Ends +14c at $80.05/Bbl |
<intowin> | Exited all ES Long @ 1500 --> 0 | 14:50 |
| I think I will go watch some water boil instead | 14:53 |
| more exciting |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 791.60 -> small size |
| 2 only |
<intowin> | yeah I am ready to scale into a short es all the way to 55 again.. if it was going to pop it should have done it by now | 14:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 790.50 --> + 1.1 | 14:56 |
<Tim_a> | nice nih |
<NihabaAshi> | Holding 1 because Gold seems to want this to go down but Oil not joining in so far :( |
| Hammer line trying to form on the 2min chart :( | 14:57 |
<Tim_a> | are you finding gold, oil and er2 tightly correlated usually? |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 791.50 --> + 0.1 | 14:58 |
| Tim_a...what's your definition of correlation ? | 14:59 |
<Tim_a> | tendency to move the same direction or reliable inverse |
<NihabaAshi> | There's a high correlation to the Eminis when Gold and Oil are doing the same thing. | 15:00 |
| Correlation is low when Gold and Oil are keeping pace with each other. | 15:01 |
| Good example of low correlation to the Eminis was the initial price decline out of the gate this morning. | 15:02 |
| Gold and Oil weren't keeping pace with each other... |
| Simply, trading is much easier when the "key markets" are in sync sort'uv speak instead of fighting each other. | 15:03 |
| weak resistance area here | 15:06 |
| volatility also declining |
| Reminder -> #FuturesTrades chat room trade posting archived logs are posted @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm (today's log will be updated tonight by 9pm est) | 15:07 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 791.90 -> small size | 15:10 |
| 1 only |
| weak support around 791.60 price area | 15:12 |
<Brutus> | Niha there is no colour in the log files anymore? |
| text only? |
<NihabaAshi> | Yeah...I have a major IRC color code conversion problem. |
<Brutus> | ic | 15:13 |
<rainer> | Shorts ER2 @ 791.9 |
<NihabaAshi> | Simply, I can't remember how to do the html format to use the code :( |
| I lost my instructions for it. | 15:14 |
| As in I accidentally deleted it. |
<Brutus> | - 1000 tick little bearish |
<NihabaAshi> | Also, the guy to showed me how to do it before has changed his email address. | 15:15 |
| Big Dark WRB pt target area right now |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 789.00 --> + 2.9 | 15:19 |
<Pepe> | very nice | 15:20 |
<intowin> | I waited all day for that short and let it pass me by lol |
<NihabaAshi> | Once it broke below that weak support area...it had a good chance to retest the prior swing point. | 15:21 |
<intowin> | had an order in at 1503 |
<NihabaAshi> | That trade also gave me my profit goal for the day. |
| Brutus...I found a website that uses a similar code as mine for IRC color log conversion... | 15:23 |
| http://www.jwz.org/hacks/irc2html.cgi |
<Brutus> | ok good |
<NihabaAshi> | I'll use it for awhile until I can figure out the cgi | 15:24 |
| However, I prefer to use it at my own site. |
<intowin> | Long ES @ 1498.75 | 15:25 |
<Brutus> | Niha another faster option is to use snagit to capture a jpg of todays log, scroll capture function. then u just post the jpg |
<rainer> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 790.4 --> + 1.5 | 15:26 |
<NihabaAshi> | I did that for a few months but it takes up large space at my site and the search engines can't scan the text on an image :( |
<Brutus> | ic | 15:27 |
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<NihabaAshi> | I also got a lot of complaints by many site visitors that said the images were too large and some wanted to copy particular trading tips in the logs but couldn't do it. | 15:28 |
<rotherwell> | hi | 15:40 |
<intowin> | Exited all ES Long @ 1549.75 --> + 51 | 15:42 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1459.75 --> - 39 | 15:43 |
| lol |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1499.75 --> + 1 |
| there we go |
<Tim_a> | dow at 20 week ma | 15:44 |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1498.25 | 15:46 |
| last trade |
| Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1495.50 --> + 2.75 | 15:48 |
<Tim_a> | volume explosion | 15:50 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 786.6 | 15:54 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 786.2 --> + 0.4 |
<intowin> | exit stop set ES @ 1500 | 16:03 |
| will carry this overnight for a 1494 fill.. whichever comes first.. | 16:04 |
<Brutus> | ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== | 16:05 |
| DJIA up 133.96 points to 13425.61 |
| NASDAQ up 10.53 points to 2602.60 |
| S&P 500 up 12.55 points to 1484.08 |
| 10-year T-note down 20/32 at 102 2/32 yield 4.489 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $0.18 at $80.09/bbl at close |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0025 at 1.3879 |
<intowin> | cu guys in the morn |
<Brutus> |
http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={c924e 50a-ae39-45b7-8bb6-6ce4e27e32fe} | 16:06 |
<werner> | gn all | 16:16 |
* sep34 | is now known as sep34_away | 16:20 |
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<NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all tomorrow | 17:09 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Thu Sep 13 19:08:42 2007 | 19:08 |
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