August 16th Wednesday 2006 Trade Log
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ER2 EuroFX EC +8.30 -0.0010 $830.00 ($120.50) Trend Days and Key Economic Reports
More often than not, trend days are sparked by the release of a key economic report.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/b-econoday.htm
There are numerous hints that a key economic report will produce a trend day and one of those hints are big gaps in comparing today's open to the close of the prior trading day.
The rest is up to us to be prepared to exploit such information.
Today I had a great entry after a few attempts but couldn't hold on to capture additional points which was the goal prior to the trade.
Today's results (real money and simulator trading) shown above are that of NihabaAshi only. To see his total accumulated points for the month of August...click here. To see results for the months of 2006 and prior years...click here.
Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)
intradaystrategies@yahoo.comNote: Each month there are a few trading days that we consider to involve interconnecting key price action of different markets and you can view the charts associated with the key price action along with their stories at our key chart story archives.
Session Start: Wed Aug 16 08:31:40 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades * Now talking in #futurestrades 08:31 <X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm <NihabaAshi> Shorts EuroFX @ 1.28570 -> small size 08:34 Covered EuroFX Short @ 1.28640 --> - 0.0007 08:37 Reverse and Enter Long EuroFX @ 1.28640 Long EuroFX @ 1.28700 -> Add <pat255> gm all.. 08:40 <NihabaAshi> Exited EuroFX Long @ 1.28660 --> - 0.0002 08:43 Reverse and Enter Short EuroFX @ 1.28660 Reversed into a 5 contract short Covered all EuroFX Short @ 1.28640 --> + 0.0002 08:49 <pat255> anothr gap up today ... just in time Niha ... <NihabaAshi> pat255...I was a little late to the show and missed my Long entry into EuroFX a little after 7am est because it was my turn to take the kid to day care :( 08:52 Been chasing EuroFX since I've returned. 08:53 <pat255> well family is imp...mkt will be there ... u prefer to trade eur very early in the am? 08:54 <NihabaAshi> Yes I'm uncomfortable with trading it too much after 0930am est. <pat255> ah ha k... <NihabaAshi> I prefer to hit it between 3am - 0930am est. 08:55 <yo> niha if you trade on de er2 are that also scalps or swings? <pat255> wow ...prolly not that volatile then? <NihabaAshi> yo...what does de mean? <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 08:56 <pat255> hmm no idea...:) <NihabaAshi> I'm not a scalper...I enter all my day trades with the initial goal of trying to hold the trade all day. <yo> i think you trade son the fx are scalps in think ok thnx 08:57 <NihabaAshi> However, I rarely achieve that goal and the trade usually results in me exiting due to my profit target being reached or a stop out for a loss <pat255> yes i noticed that ..niha u want to stick with a treand if u catch it .. <NihabaAshi> Heck...I don't even have a system (charting, broker etc) that's suitable for scalping. 08:58 Thus, if I were to try scalping...I would be already at a huge disadvantage before entering the trade. <yo> ok 08:59 sorry my englisch is not so wel for a quick response 09:00 Sponsor: As traders we must treat our trading like a business if we are to succeed as traders and as a business. Therefore, waiting till the last few weeks March to prepare for April's taxes is not good for your trading and could put extra stress on your trading during tax month or the months that follow if your one of those traders that filed an extension.. Therefore, its best to be on top of your taxes throughout the year and Traders Accounting is a great resource for such especially if you want to prevent penalties or an audit several years from now.
<NihabaAshi> Ok...not a problem. Here's some stats for the EuroFX and the Eminis... 09:01 After an 0830am est key economic report and they put in a parabolic price surge upwards... If they have not retraced more than 10% of that price surge prior to 0930am est... 09:02 There's a 93% chance they will move higher and reach a WRB before moving lower and retracing more and 10% of that price surge (if they move lower). 09:03 In reference to another WRB "after" 0930am est. <yo> ok thnx niha 09:04 wrb is a reverse line? 09:05 ah i see wrb is a analyse 09:08 <NihabaAshi> WRB = Wide Range Body or Bar 09:09 <yo> dogi? or hammer? 09:10 i think i must first read the site , thnx 09:12 <pat255> gm emini 09:16 <eminitrader> morn pat 09:17 <NihabaAshi> Shorts EuroFX @ 1.28840 -> small size 09:18 1 contract only...another intuition trade. Covered EuroFX Short @ 1.28890 --> - 0.0005 09:19 Reverse and Enter Long EuroFX @ 1.28890 :( 09:20 Geesh...my 1 lot is nothing in comparison to some of the size I see moving across the prints for EuroFX :) 09:23 <eminitrader> how much is a tick worth niha <pat255> same as es emini 09:24 <NihabaAshi> Trying to hold this a little beyond 0930am est. <eminitrader> k thx pat <pat255> but eur is a beast like er.. easy come easy go..lol <eminitrader> k <eminitrader> morn pj <NihabaAshi> If anybody is here as an unregistered member...please register via following the instructions at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm 09:29 <NihabaAshi> I'll close the room for tomorrow and leave it close for awhile. 09:32 Thus, make sure your register and have access to the password or else you will not be able to enter #FuturesTrades tomorrow nor for the remainder of the month. 09:33 Follow instructions at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTra desChatRoom.htm <pat255> hmm oh boy always have problem getting access when u change pw...:( 09:34 will try to get it from the link...ty <NihabaAshi> Password is the same. It's just not active right now so that "anybody" can log in. 09:35 I'm just going to make it active again :) <pat255> ah ha k...:) <eminitrader> Long ES @ 1293.25 09:36 <les> niha.. 09:42 is the pasword the same one u currently have on your site? <NihabaAshi> Yes <les> or are u gonna change it by tomorrow? <NihabaAshi> No... <les> thx <NihabaAshi> Room currently is not password protected to allow any curious trader to log in without going through the registration process. 09:43 Registration process has ONE purpose only...weed out the spammers and trouble makers. <PapaJon> niha... i just tried to access the page for access.. and it says i am not registered to the room 09:44 <NihabaAshi> Unfortunately, it also discourages some traders from joining. Papa...make sure your logged into ezboard. Click on the log-in link. <PapaJon> i got access to the forum... just not to the page ok.. i will check <pat255> yes first log into ezboard then try the link.. 09:45 <aym> Short er2 @ 705.1 risk 2 <NihabaAshi> Yes. <szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1549.75 <PapaJon> ok.. got it.. thnx 09:46 <eminitrader> szu ..u get the return <szubaark> yes. thanks <eminitrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1293.25 --> 0 <aym> Cover ER2 @ 703.7 09:47 <NihabaAshi> Exited EuroFX Long @ 1.28830 --> - 0.0006 09:50 Typical first 30mins flat action in the EuroFX after 0930am est :( 09:51 Reason why I hate trading it right now. <szubaark> exit stop set NQ @ 1549 <eminitrader> Long ES @ 1292.50 <NihabaAshi> Prior to 0930am est is much better. Will wait until the 1015am - 1045am est to consider trading EuroFX again. 09:52 <szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1547 --> + 2.75 <jperl> somewhat mixed market opens this morning... <eminitrader> niha , given ur years in the mrkt ...the increase in gap openings ..does it mean anything ? <jperl> http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-16/JP ERL_016.png <NihabaAshi> My intuition tells me the market is Bullish and a very big trend day is coming. 09:55 If reference to eminitrader question. <eminitrader> k thx <NihabaAshi> However, I'm still playing the Short side with some size in the Eminis because I'm still not convince by all the GAP ups. 09:56 <eminitrader> so the increase in gap -uos ..is basically a indication of a bullish short term scenario? 09:57 NQ at good supp area ..holding so far 09:58 1544-1545 <szubaark> NQ will need from ES,YM to move higher <eminitrader> looks like ES is forming a base :)) 09:59 hopefully in my direction :) 10:00 <NihabaAshi> [09:57] <eminitrader> so the increase in gap -uos ..is basically a indication of a bullish short term scenario? 10:02 Yes <eminitrader> k thx much niha <NihabaAshi> Eminis and EuroFX are tight...the 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status Report should cause some good volatility. 10:04 Long EuroFX @ 702.60 -> small size 1 contract only <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 10:05 <jperl> So far this morning, TotalMarket oscillating about average price... <NihabaAshi> ER2 volatility is drying up...I'm now expecting a volatility spike. <jperl> http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-16/JP ERL_017.png <szubaark> Buys NQ @ 1548.25 10:06 exit stop set NQ @ 1548.25 10:07 <jperl> When TotalMarket hovers around its average price, there is not market direction <NihabaAshi> Exited EuroFX Long @ 703.40 --> + 0.8 10:08 <szubaark> Exited all Long NQ at 1548.25 --> 0 10:09 <pdays> Shorts ER2 @ 703.4 «« paper »» <szubaark> no followthru <pdays> Covered all ER2 Short @ 702.9 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> Things should start heating up around 1015am est. 10:10 <pat255> yeah ...just slow motion now .. <szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1547.50 10:18 exit stop set NQ @ 1548 10:23 <NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 701.10 -> small size 10:24 3 contracts only...will reverse if needed. intuition trade <eminitrader> nq/es holding at supp 10:25 <NihabaAshi> :( 10:28 lowering my stop 10:29 <szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1548 --> - 0.5 Buys NQ @ 1548 <les> Long ER2 @ 701.6 10:31 exit stop set ER2 @ 700.3 10:32 Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 702.1 --> + 0.5 exit stop raised ER2 @ 700.5 10:33 <jperl> TotalMarkets still showing no direction... http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-16/JP ERL_018.png <pat255> looks like bulls not gonna give it up esy 10:34 <les> Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 702.2 --> + 0.6 10:35 exit stop raised ER2 @ 701.7 <NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 702.30 --> - 1.2 Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 702.30 Switched into a 5 contract Long 10:36 <eminitrader> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1293.50 --> + 1 10:38 mrkts not willing to give more :( <les> c'mon, bounce, dammit <jperl> I don't trade until the TotalMarket shows me a direction <les> Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 701.7 --> + 0.1 10:39 <szubaark> Exited all Long NQ at 1548 --> 0 10:40 <les> :( <szubaark> just chop <NihabaAshi> Agree. szu...typical August trading so far. 10:42 <szubaark> Buys NQ @ 1550.50 <eminitrader> looks like mrkt deciding to make a move now or after filling the gap :) Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1294.50 --> + 2 10:44 <szubaark> emini u still holding,nice <eminitrader> holding 1 <pat255> vn emini <eminitrader> yes szu that was a good supp for a bounce 10:45 thx guys <szubaark> it was tough holding thru it for me. only caught it because of FAST REACTION Reverse <NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 703.90 --> + 1.6 Holding 2 contracts 10:46 <szubaark> Exited all Long NQ at 1553 --> + 2.5 <NihabaAshi> Not worth it unless I can capture a WRB around 705 on these remaining 2 contracts. <Chilly> Long YM @ 11295 exit stop set YM @ 11296 <jperl> TotalMarket now showing definite life to the upside..... 10:47 passing through its 3rd StdDeviation.... http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-16/JP ERL_019.png 10:48 <NihabaAshi> exit stop raised ER2 @ 702.50 <eminitrader> Exited ES Long @ 1294.50 --> + 2 10:51 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1294.50 might as well play the chop <NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 705.40 --> + 3.1 10:53 Holding 1 contract Trading Edge: Trading Strategies -> These strategies will reveal and explain specific strategies from entry to exit that exploit inefficiencies in the price action of your trading instrument for profits in the following trading instruments: Emini Index Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM), Forex Currencies (EurUsd, EurYen, UsdCdn), Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY) and Hang Seng Index Futures (HSI) <asuni> this exit on WRB? niha <NihabaAshi> Yes Via the 2min chart. <asuni> u answered befro my question (time frame) :-) 10:54 befro=before <eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1295.50 --> - 1 <NihabaAshi> Increasing my chart interval to better manage my remainder just in case I get my wish... Wishing that I can hold this trade and it develops into a trend. 10:55 EuroFX is dead in the water. 10:56 Not unusual to see when the Eminis are doing what they currently are doing. EuroFX EC Commentary -> All my EuroFX EC price action commentary also applies to Forex EurUsd and the "inverse" price action of U.S. Dollar Index or vice versa. 10:57 <jperl> TotalMarket now showing nice trend to the upside... http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-16/JP ERL_0110.png <asuni> niha, pm when u can 10:58 <eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1295 10:59 <NihabaAshi> asuni...can you send a pm again...I want to see if my "anti-spam" code is preventing your pm's from reaching me on IRC. <asuni> sent 11:00 <NihabaAshi> I can hear the audio alert that a pm was sent but I can't see it... That means its working... Now I need to figure out how to disable it :) <asuni> lol i can send a mail <NihabaAshi> Yes...please send an email. 11:01 asuni...try pm me again...I want to see if I've de-activated my anti-spam code in the IRC script. 11:02 <asuni> sent mail 11:03 <NihabaAshi> Can you pm me again...just say a hello to make it quick...thanks. <eminitrader> nice sell setup signalled on the nq 11:04 <asuni> sent pm niha <NihabaAshi> It worked...great. 11:05 <asuni> good so, mail or pm, how u prefer <Chilly> Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 11296 --> + 1 11:11 <eminitrader> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1293.50 --> + 1.5 <pat255> wel done guys .. <eminitrader> :) 11:12 Shorts ES @ 1294 -> Add 5 now will hold for gap fill be back 11:13 * les is now known as lesAway 11:15 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 11:17 <yo> niha if i try too register it says :usename already exists, i have try another one but that does not work also 11:20 <NihabaAshi> Yes...you need to get a new username. 11:29 ezboard is big and has hundreds of different forums not related to the financial markets. 11:30 Very easy to come across a user name being used. <yo> k tx i try soms <jperl> time for lunch..... 12:13 Here are this mornings trades....a little complicated.... http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-16/JP ERL_0111.png Anyone wants explanation PM me <eminitrader> lloks like a creeping uptrend 12:16 <pat255> yes emini ... <eminitrader> mental stop hit 12:17 exit stop set ES @ 1296.50 holding 5 short avg 1294.50 12:18 Trailing Stop Hit ES @ 1296.50 --> - 4 12:23 thats -2pts 12:24 gave back all my am gains :(( <pat255> dang ...:( not good ...:( 12:25 <eminitrader> ona a happier note the days not over yet :) <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 12:29 <pat255> L 1295 12:56 1 pt stop <eminitrader> Long ES @ 1295 12:57 <szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1558.25 13:00 <Chilly> Shorts YM @ 11319 13:18 <NihabaAshi> Oil price action is keeping ER2 from testing the 708 price area. 13:19 Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 705.50 --> + 3.2 13:21 That sucks...really thought it had a chance to test that 708 price area. <szubaark> Niha good exit overall. U didnt give much back. 13:26 <eminitrader> Long ES @ 1294 -> Add 13:27 <Chilly> exit stop set YM @ 11318 13:31 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 13:41 <szubaark> exit stop set NQ @ 1561 <Chilly> Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 11318 --> + 1 13:49 <szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1561 --> - 2.75 13:51 Buys NQ @ 1561 <eminitrader> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1296 --> + 2 14:01 <pat255> vn emini.. 14:02 Sponsor:
<eminitrader> thats actually 1.5pts. avg long 1294.50 <pat255> missed the entry did not wnt to chase.. <eminitrader> thx pat u were in @ 95 right 14:03 <pat255> yes but scalped it ..then took a shower just came back .. 14:04 <eminitrader> k <pat255> i gotta hold it ...get itchy fingers when in profit.. 14:05 <eminitrader> Exited ES Long @ 1295.50 --> + 0.5 Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1295.50 <Chilly> Shorts YM @ 11320 14:06 exit stop set YM @ 11332 14:17 Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 11332 --> - 12 <szubaark> ES getting slammed here at Resistance 14:19 <eminitrader> lot of buy pressure too <szubaark> i was looking for it to go thru BUT it has to pause of course 14:20 <eminitrader> if this retest fails then can see lot of longs covering 14:21 <lesAway> Shorts ER2 @ 706.2 Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 705.8 --> + 0.4 14:22 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 706.8 14:23 * lesAway is now known as les <szubaark> Exited all Long NQ at 1562.75 --> + 1.75 14:25 losing patience. Time of the day where i just like to watch. Let the Pros battle it out. 14:26 * szubaark is now known as szubaark_away <eminitrader> my last trade too 14:27 <les> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 705.7 --> + 0.5 14:28 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 706 break down dammit 14:30 <Chilly> Shorts YM @ 11329 <les> it wouold be nice to have just one decent belt of profit today instead of bloody tiddlers the whole time 14:31 Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 706 --> + 0.2 <Chilly> third and last attempt here to buck trend 14:32 <szubaark_away> pop goes the weasel 14:33 <Chilly> exit stop set YM @ 11341 14:34 <eminitrader> exit stop set ES @ 1298.50 <Chilly> Trailing Stop Hit YM @ 11341 --> - 12 guess the dog won't eat tonight as I get his food 14:35 <pat255> lol .. poor dog OR poor chilly ...? hmmm <Chilly> lol 14:36 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 14:50 <pat255> k giys c u all later ty 15:07 very tired .. <Chilly> c ya <pat255> later chilly <eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1299 --> - 3.5 15:08 <NihabaAshi_away> Don't forget...tomorrow #FuturesTrades goes back to being password protected to keep the spammers out. 15:19 Password is posted at this link... 15:20 http://p207.ezboard.com/fthestrategylabf rm88 Make sure your log-in to ezboard to access that private thread. 15:21 If your not a register member...you can't get in unless you follow the instructions at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTra desChatRoom.htm 15:22 * NihabaAshi_away is now known as NihabaAshi 15:50 <NihabaAshi> To register your IRC name...follow the following command... 15:52 type /msg NS register password Replace the word password with whatever password you want. <NihabaAshi> Take care all and it was a nice trend day. 16:24 Too bad I wasn't able to stay in my trade to enjoy it. There will always be a next time :) 16:25 * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 17:11 * DisconnectedSession Close: Wed Aug 16 17:15:10 2006 17:15 Sponsor:
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