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| Session Start: Thu Aug 09 08:58:19 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<NihabaAshi> | The Eminis were under attack in the overnight trading session...geesh. | 08:59 |
| Simply, all the fun started while I was sleeping :( |
<pat255> | yeah they took it down when everone is asleep |
<Joye> | not me guys i was awake but only watching :-((( | 09:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 783.00 -> small size | 09:07 |
| 1 contract only |
| Geeesh...that was easy :) |
| I like it when it drops that fast after my entry. | 09:08 |
<ItalianSharp> | morning niha, morning all |
| looks like we are smelling blood early today |
<NihabaAshi> | Yep |
| Will be a very interesting Open. | 09:09 |
<Joye> | good morning |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm doing some "extra" analysis now so that I don't get blind sided after the open. |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 782.90 --> + 0.1 |
| Oh well...good try anyways. |
<Joye> | Hi NiHa will today be a big day? | 09:10 |
<NihabaAshi> | If it is...it already started :( |
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<doublejay> | gm all | 09:28 |
| Will yesterday's great moves continue today? :) | 09:34 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 783.20 -> small size |
| 2 only...looking for a exit around 780 price area | 09:35 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 784.20 --> - 1 | 09:36 |
| Long ER2 @ 785.10 -> medium size |
<base> | GM | 09:40 |
<ripsboy> | good morning all |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 789.50 --> + 4.4 | 09:42 |
| Holding 2 | 09:43 |
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<szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1481.50 «« paper »» |
<Joye> | Niha whats your SL right now? |
<venedom> | gm |
<NihabaAshi> | exit stop raised ER2 @ 785.20 | 09:44 |
<Joye> | OK thx |
<NihabaAshi> | :( |
| Price action looking poor again. | 09:45 |
| ER2 needs to hold here or it has a good chance to make new intraday lows. |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 785.50 --> + 0.4 | 09:46 |
| got shook out | 09:47 |
<werner> | gm all | 09:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | Oil helping a lot on this counter-thrust upwards but Gold sitting near its lows of the day. | 09:50 |
| Thus, I can't see ER2 breaking out of this price action until Gold joins in. | 09:51 |
| Therefor, I'm changing my game plan... |
| No longer going for point...just looking for 2-5 tick profits. |
<PapaJon> | gm all |
<venedom> | stops r difficult to handle | 09:52 |
<NihabaAshi> | DAX not doing much right now either :( | 09:53 |
<Brutus> | Down 2%, its just waiting for ES :) | 09:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | EuroFX volatility has drop fast... |
| Same with ER2... |
| Thus, everybody is waiting for something. | 09:55 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. |
| Shorts ER2 @ 787.90 -> small size | 09:57 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 790.10 --> - 2.2 | 10:00 |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ 791.3 -> medium size | 10:01 |
| Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 790.3 --> + 1 | 10:02 |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 791.3 --> 0 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 791.20 -> medium size |
| 4 only | 10:03 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 791.50 --> + 0.3 | 10:05 |
| Had some problems trying to exit that :( | 10:06 |
<venedom> | have to reconect |
<NihabaAshi> | reducing my position size back down to 1 contract again | 10:09 |
| Expecting another volatility spike here soon. | 10:10 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 790.70 -> small size |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 790.00 --> + 0.7 | 10:11 |
| Joye and Dera...please respond to private message I just sent you...thanks | 10:17 |
| -> [Joye] PING |
| -> [dera] PING |
<Joye> | can u send it again?I cant see anything |
<NihabaAshi> | Just did | 10:18 |
| Joye...did you get the message ? | 10:19 |
| Thanks Joye :) | 10:21 |
* Looking | up dera user info... | 10:22 |
<Joye> | no worries | 10:23 |
<Brutus> | http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/tda meritrade-com/html-story.asp?guid={76bcd bff-ffda-4db2-85b3-ea84cfb66170} | 10:26 |
| Dax weak divergence | 10:27 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 794.80 -> small size | 10:29 |
<base> | EIA release |
<NihabaAshi> | I have a little WRB support |
<PapaJon> | President Bush about to speak | 10:30 |
| press confrence |
<base> | PapaJon: right now? | 10:31 |
<PapaJon> | in a few moments |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 796.50 --> + 1.7 |
<PapaJon> | so.. heads up.. careful out there |
<NihabaAshi> | Thanks PapaJon...you know well how much I hate being in a trade when that guy is giving a TV speach that's being followed by the financial networks. | 10:32 |
| That's the reason why I dumped my position. |
<PapaJon> | yup.. is why i mentioned it... :)) |
<base> | PapaJon; Thanks, I had not noticed it. |
| :) |
<PapaJon> | We take care of our own in here |
<NihabaAshi> | Looks like the market is trying to squeeze some more juice out of prices before he shows up on TV. | 10:33 |
<PapaJon> | Bush is on now! |
<base> | LOL, yeah, if Bush is going to speak, short everything you can! :) |
<PapaJon> | depends on charts base... | 10:35 |
| i just went long a few moments ago |
| have exited 2/3 | 10:36 |
| 1 left |
<base> | I am in paper short on ER2 from 800. |
<PapaJon> | nice trade :) | 10:37 |
<base> | Now closing +3.0 |
<PapaJon> | me too... +2 ticks better than be |
| b/e |
<base> | I just wanted to short it at the time you have said Bush is on. :) |
<PapaJon> | hehe |
<eminime68> | Bush still talking? | 10:46 |
<PapaJon> | yes |
<base> | PapaJon: Where are you watching him, CNBC? | 10:50 |
<Brutus> | 08/09/2007 10:53 *DJ Bush: Enough Liquidity In Financial Markets | 10:54 |
<PapaJon> | just the regular NBC channel | 10:55 |
| The Today Show |
<Brutus> | Sure... explains why ECB gave 100B in liquidity :)) |
<base> | Can be watched online? | 10:56 |
<PapaJon> | dunno | 10:57 |
<NihabaAshi> | Things only got interesting doing that run up when Gold decided to get moving. |
<PapaJon> | is on bloomberg tv too |
| nad cnbc |
| and |
<eminime68> | go to cnbc.com and click on exclusive video events | 10:58 |
<base> | I have had only CNBC radio online, not working anymore. |
<Brutus> | Base you got cable TV in Chec Reb ? | 10:59 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yeah...CNBC nixed that :( |
<base> | Brutus: There is no such thing as a cable here. :) |
| eminime68: I am lokking for a live stream, not for selected events. | 11:01 |
| At the present I listen to BBC World Service. I used to listen to CNBC live, but it does not work anymore for me. | 11:02 |
<Brutus> | http://www.bloomberg.com/streams/video/L iveBTV200.asx | 11:04 |
| http://www.bloomberg.com/streams/video/L iveBTV56.asx | 11:05 |
<base> | I am on a 64 bit linux box and there are not codecs for ASF streams available. Anyway, I will save the links and try later on my laptop, where I have 32 bit linux distro installed. Thank you Brutus. | 11:07 |
<Brutus> | urw |
<szubaark> | This months Price Action is a lot different then Previous 2-3 months. Throwing me off. | 11:12 |
<Brutus> | different to previous 2-3 years ? :)) | 11:14 |
<szubaark> | that too |
| u got these tight, congestion,controlled creeper channels | 11:15 |
| typical computer buying, selling crap | 11:16 |
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<PapaJon> | Bush now done |
<base> | Thanks PapaJon | 11:18 |
<PapaJon> | yw |
| jeeze.. market died | 11:47 |
<base> | Yeah, it's boring. | 11:51 |
<PapaJon> | gotta head out to the jobsite... heres my trades | 11:55 |
| http://www.veritashomeinspection.com/pj2 .jpg |
| you all have a great day and evening... cya tomorrow |
<base> | PapaJon: Have a nice evening, see you. | 11:56 |
<szubaark> | nice Papa |
<PapaJon> | tx |
<base> | One loss only, very nice. |
<Pepe> | Pepa it is really very goog | 11:57 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:58 |
<Pepe> | What do you trade Pepa? Action price? |
| or Market Profile? |
<PapaJon> | a bit of both pepe... but i really need to go now... | 11:59 |
| cheers |
<Pepe> | thanks | 12:05 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 797.10 -> small size | 12:13 |
| 1 only as previously commented. |
| I'm also in profit protection mode even though I haven't reach my profit goal for today of 2k in profits. | 12:14 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 798.50 --> + 1.4 | 12:17 |
<pat255> | vn n ..leery of L side |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm about 7 ticks away from my profit target goal and calling it quits for the day. | 12:19 |
<pat255> | nice |
<base> | :) | 12:20 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 797.6 | 12:32 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 796.5 --> + 1.1 |
<szubaark> | nice quick | 12:33 |
<pdays> | yeah it was...geeeees |
<AusTrader00> | what your daily profit target Nihaba? |
<NihabaAshi> | Today it was 2k |
| Most trading days it is different mainly because the market isn't the same every trading day. | 12:35 |
| Recently I've doubled or tripled my profit target goals because of the increase in volatility. |
<AusTrader00> | nicee..... | 12:36 |
| what size u normally trade with ? 4 cars? |
<NihabaAshi> | At last statistical review prior to dropping 1/2 my size was 4.3 | 12:39 |
| It must be around 3.8 or so by now. |
| Shorts ER2 @ 792.80 -> small size | 12:40 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 792.60 --> + 0.2 | 12:42 |
| Wasn't fast enough to grab 792.00 :( |
<Brutus> | 08/09/2007 12:42 HOT: Goldman Sachs-GS second hedge fund sells some positions, source says-WSJ |
<NihabaAshi> | Geeesh...a lot of fund news lately during this increased volatility. | 12:43 |
<Brutus> | ER and YM looking relatively strong |
| Wonder if it was the last stop hunt b4 news | 12:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 794.30 -> small size | 12:46 |
| If it drops against me...there should be a re-entry setup for me. | 12:47 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 793.60 --> - 0.7 | 12:50 |
| Long ER2 @ 792.60 -> small size | 12:52 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 794.80 --> + 2.2 | 12:57 |
| Wow...see how fast that retraced...crazy. |
| Actually...more scary than crazy. | 12:58 |
<Brutus> | 08/09/2007 12:56 HOT: NY hedge fund Tykhe Capital hit with losses, source says-WSJ |
<NihabaAshi> | Looks like the market was waiting for me to dump my 1 contract :) |
| Long ER2 @ 792.60 -> small size | 12:59 |
| :) |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 792.40 --> - 0.2 | 13:02 |
| Got too choppy for me. |
| Back to back timely exits :) | 13:03 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 790.10 -> small size | 13:04 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 788.80 --> + 1.3 | 13:05 |
| reached my goal with commissions included. | 13:06 |
| I'm done for the day. |
<AusTrader00> | nice....job as usual... | 13:08 |
<NihabaAshi> | If I was still trading...I would try to exploit the Short side down to the 780 price area because I'm a little bearish now. |
<AusTrader00> | Now u should do some lecture for the room :P |
<NihabaAshi> | Today's Lecture: How to make Sushi rolls | 13:09 |
| :) |
<AusTrader00> | :P |
<ItalianSharp> | NQ put up a double bottom now...let's see if it holds | 13:11 |
<NihabaAshi> | NQ still holding but ER2 looks like it wants to be a party pooper. | 13:13 |
<ItalianSharp> | yep...ES also trying to flush some stops at the lows |
<NihabaAshi> | Lets see if ER2 can make NQ fall through its support of the double bottom. | 13:15 |
| NQ still fighting hard to keep its support level. | 13:17 |
<NihabaAshi> | Anyone here doing any "heavy duty" statistical analysis in Excel that want's to share their "template" with the room. | 13:23 |
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<Brutus> | Looking more bullish..have to watch price action at ES lows |
<NihabaAshi> | If so...please send your Microsoft Excel template (not your trades) to questions@thestrategylab.com or intradaystrategies@yahoo.com | 13:24 |
<pat255> | sorry N i dont ...:( |
<NihabaAshi> | I'll upload it and then post the direct link to it for sharing. |
| I've gotten a few emails lately about statistical stuff in Excel. | 13:25 |
<pat255> | ty |
<ItalianSharp> | the bulls are trying hard to keep up these mkts... | 15:03 |
| yet, the down pressure is too strong |
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<werner> | gn all | 15:34 |
<Brutus> | US STOCKS PLUNGE AS GOLDMAN PILES ON HEDGE FUNDS WOES | 16:12 |
| U.S. stock losses accelerate after reports that a second Goldman Sachs hedge fund is selling positions as another fund reports a large portfolio selloff is sending shockwaves through other equity-market neutral funds. In addition, BNP Paribas suspends three asset-backed funds, saying it can't fairly value them because of the U.S. mortgage woes, and Tykhe Capital is hit with large losses. |
| BANK CREDIT WORRIES UNNERVE MARKETS |
| Money-market rates shoot higher, credit spreads widen, Treasurys rally and the yen jumps, forcing the European Central Bank and Treasury to add liquidity to the system to prevent a sharper crunch. |
| ============ U.S. MARKETS ACTION =========== |
| DJIA down 313.21 points to 13341.07 |
| NASDAQ down 49.30 points to 2563.68 |
| S&P 500 down 34.67 points to 1463.36 |
| 10-year T-note up 16/32 at 99 23/32 yield 4.783 |
| NYMEX Spot Crude up $0.01 at $71.60/bbl |
| Dollar/Euro down 0.0118 at 1.3676 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Thu Aug 09 17:12:20 2007 | 17:11 |
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