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August 9th Wednesday 2006 Trade Log

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Today was a boring trading day.

I had the direction (bearish) in the afternoon correct but trading a new strategy via the simulator.

Today's results (real money and simulator trading) shown above are that of NihabaAshi only. To see his total accumulated points for the month of August...click here. To see results for the months of 2006 and prior years...click here.

Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)
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Session Start: Wed Aug 09 09:28:18 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades

* Now talking in #futurestrades 09:28

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<PapaJon> gm all

<szubaark> gm 09:29

<eminitrader> morn pj szu

<asuni> gm all 09:31

<NihabaAshi> gm

Key Economic Reports: 10am est Wholesale Trade and 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status Report... 09:32

Hopefully the generate some good volatility.

<les> Long ER2 @ 697 «« paper »»

<pat255> gm all

<les> Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 697.5 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 09:33

exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 697 «« paper »»

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 697.90 -> small size 09:34

1 contract only

<les> Exited 1/4 ER2 Long @ 698.1 --> + 1.1 «« paper »»

exit stop raised ER2 @ 697.7 «« paper »» 09:35

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 698.20 -> Add

Holding 2 contracts now.

<les> Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 697.9 --> + 0.9 «« paper »» 09:36

<jperl> limeade this morning... 09:37

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-09/JP ERL_011.png 09:38

<pat255> nice niha...

@office again ...dial up connect sigh 09:39

<NihabaAshi> Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 697.30 --> + 0.9

<pat255> L 1284 09:40

<NihabaAshi> exit stop lowered ER2 @ 697.70

Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 696.60 --> + 1.3 09:41

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<pat255> out b/e..

<les> Long ER2 @ 696.1 «« paper »» 09:46

Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 696.6 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 09:48

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<les> Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 697.7 --> + 1.6 «« paper »» 09:51

thats not right

sould be -.90

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<szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1510 09:53

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 694.00 -> small size 09:54

1 contract only

<pdays> Shorts ER2 @ 694.0 «« paper »»

<NihabaAshi> I'm starting to smell a possible GAP close but will need help from the 10am est Wholesale Trade report. 09:55

However, I'm only willing to trade a 1 contract on it (not too confident). 09:56

<pat255> yes data may get it going one way or the other 09:57

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1283.25

<NihabaAshi> Volatility drying up...a WRB spike will soon appear. 09:59

<szubaark> exit stop set NQ @ 1513.50

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1282.25 10:02

<NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 693.50 --> + 0.5

Whimpy shallow WRB :(

Will just sit and watch to see if the GAP can fill before 1015am est when volatility picks up in pre-reaction to the 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status report. 10:04

<szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1510 --> 0 10:05

Buys NQ @ 1510

<asuni> Long EuroFX @ 12917 «« paper »» 10:08

<eminitrader> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1283.25 --> + 1 10:09

thats a b/e actually

<szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven NQ @ 1510 10:10

Exited all Long NQ at 1510 --> 0

tough range here 10:12

<eminitrader> hate these gap days ...disturbs my mind when in a trade

<szubaark> yeah we getting a lot of those lately 10:13

<eminitrader> specially when against the gap

and w/o reason

<asuni> Exited 1/2 EuroFX Long @ 12922 --> + 5 «« paper »»

<eminitrader> cisco results today were no reason for the es to gap up almost 8 pts 10:14

<asuni> exit stop set EuroFX @ 12918 «« paper »» 10:15

<eminitrader> Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1282.25 --> 0

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 693.30 -> small size

3 contracts 10:16

<szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1507.50

<NihabaAshi> Late entry :(

<eminitrader> nq at supp 1507-1505

<szubaark> emini looking for try at gap close 10:17

<NihabaAshi> Should have been short between 694.00 - 693.80

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1282.25

k szu.just my observation 10:18

<pat255> k guys c u al later..ty all..back to work 10:20

<eminitrader> bye

<pat255> later emini

<asuni> Trailing Stop Hit EuroFX @ 12918 --> + 1 «« paper »» 10:23

<eminitrader> just out of curiosity - does the euro fx generally move opposite to the indices ? 10:26

<NihabaAshi> Low volatility...expecting another WRB volatility spike... 10:27

Hopefully in my direction.

<szubaark> yes..i hope to downside also

<asuni> generally in opposite direction

<eminitrader> no want it in mine ...long......................

<pdays> Covered all ER2 Short @ 692.8 --> + 1.2 «« paper »»

<eminitrader> :)

thx asuni

<szubaark> sweating out every trade so far this morning.

<NihabaAshi> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 692.50 --> + 0.8 10:28

<eminitrader> time for a upward spike

es staying too long at support 10:29

<NihabaAshi> Come on...just a few more ticks downward.

<eminitrader> looks more and more like a breakdown of supp 10:30

:(

<szubaark> emini could go either way.. doesnt it always LOL

<eminitrader> true szu 10:31

<NihabaAshi> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 691.80 --> + 1.5

Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 692.50 --> + 0.8

<szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1509.25 --> - 1.75 10:32

Buys NQ @ 1509.25

<NihabaAshi> I'm going to simulator trading now...testing something new.

<szubaark> Shorts aint working. Long time

<eminitrader> niha is ur bias still bearish from yest - general mrkt i mean 10:33

looks like whichever way it breaks --its going to be quite a large move 10:34

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<szubaark> Exited all Long NQ at 1506.50 --> - 2.75 10:35

Shorts NQ @ 1506.50

<eminitrader> looks like the mrkt heard u szu

<substanz> Long YM @ 11222

<szubaark> its just pain in the ass catching that moce

move

<eminitrader> yep

<szubaark> gave them 2 Stops now i need to cover BEFORE any Profit :(( 10:36

<eminitrader> expecting a decent bounce from here es and nq in alignment 10:37

Long ES @ 1281.25 -> Add 10:38

if mrkt breaks thru here prolly a gap fill 10:39

<szubaark> slow,controlled downdraft

<eminitrader> just like yest pm szu ..the way the sell pressure was thought that it would crash and nq help up pretty well 10:40

<szubaark> yup.. break here they gonna Pull The Rug

<eminitrader> help=held

yep looking to get out 10:41

on the short cover bounce --

nq on the lower end of supp 1505 ..just managing to hold..wonder for how long 10:42

<NihabaAshi> ER2 missed closing that GAP from the regular trading session by 1 tick.

<szubaark> Widening My Stop. Need to give this room 10:43

<eminitrader> es and nq finding it tough to break down 10:48

mrkt prolly getting ready for a chop-suey 10:49

Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1282.75 --> + 1.5 10:52

thats acuatty 0.5

missed my limit by 1 tick :( 10:53

looks like lobster dinners for the brokers 10:55

<szubaark> yeah. 10:56

<eminitrader> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1281.25

<substanz> Exited all YM Long @ 11238 --> + 16 11:02

<eminitrader> Exited 2/3 ES Long @ 1283.25 --> + 1

thats actually 2

holding 1

<szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1511.25 --> - 4.75

:((

cant trade this chop 11:03

Buys NQ @ 1212.75

<eminitrader> think its a short covering ..no real buying coming in 11:04

who cares anyways..as long as the mrkt makes a move :)

<szubaark> this is more then just short covering 11:11

<aym> Short ES @ 1284.5 RISK 2

<eminitrader> i think yest shorts szu

ES will prolly close lower than open @ 1284.50 11:12

<aym> Short qm @ 70.125 risk 0.2 11:14

<eminitrader> Exited ES Long @ 1284.25 --> + 2 11:16

Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1284.25

prolly gap fill now 11:21

on the es

wow 11:33

<szubaark> heheh.. crazy frikin market

<eminitrader> nice entry szu

<szubaark> well.. late by 2-3 Points but im not trying to be Perfect. 11:34

<eminitrader> :))

<szubaark> watching ES if it tests High 11:35

emini u still in that Short? 11:36

Exited all Long NQ at 1520.75 --> + 308 11:40

<eminitrader> yes szu

<szubaark> Buys NQ @ 1212.75 11:41

Exited all Long NQ at 1520.75 --> + 308

hmm

Buys NQ @ 1212.75

<eminitrader> nice one szu ..dont worry abt that

<szubaark> just for my Journal. 11:42

Buys NQ @ 1512.75

Exited all Long NQ at 1520.75 --> + 8

emini u still holding Short?

[11:16] <eminitrader> Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1284.25

NQ amazing.. not a SINGLE Red Candle since 10:50 upmove 11:43

<eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1288 -> Add 11:44

<szubaark> [09:55] <NihabaAshi> I'm starting to smell a possible GAP close but will need help from the 10am est Wholesale Trade report.

Niha ER was the one closing gap while ES,NQ,YM were waiting 11:45

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<NihabaAshi> [11:45] <szubaark> Niha ER was the one closing gap while ES,NQ,YM were waiting 11:58

szu...I think ER2 missed closing that GAP by 1 tick. 11:59

<eminitrader> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1284.25 --> + 3.75 12:21

thats a b/e 12:22

will hold 1288 short for gap fill

<asuni> emini, where u come, from Mars? 12:33

great trades! 12:34

<eminitrader> came in from 2992 and finally trying to get some payback :)

2992 = 2002 12:35

<asuni> :-)

i still need to come trying to get some payback from 2000

i'm older than u :-)

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<eminitrader> lol

5 yrs day in - day out man its abt time for me 12:36

and just the ES ...nothing else

same system/method ...wonder what took me so long 12:37

exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1288 12:39

Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1283 --> + 1.25 12:49

thats 35 pts

35 = 5

holding 2 for gap target 12:50

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<szubaark> nice emini 13:15

<eminitrader> thx szu 13:17

<szubaark> Buys NQ @ 1514

Exited all Long NQ at 1512 --> - 2

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 691.60 -> small size «« simulator »» 13:20

Testing something new...reason why I'm on the simulator. 13:21

<szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1509.75

<codehead> potential inv ghost setup on YM 5min szu 13:25

<NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 693.00 --> - 1.4 «« simulator »» 13:29

Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 693.00 «« simulator »»

Seeing some 2-3 tick spreads...spooked me out early :(

<substanz> Long YM @ 11183 13:31

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 691.70 -> small size «« simulator »»

<codehead> long Ym 11184

<NihabaAshi> Same pattern...2 contracts this time.

<codehead> dang, ghost trying to roll over

<substanz> Exited all YM Long @ 11176 --> - 7

<eminitrader> missed my tenner by 2 ticks ..second time :( 13:32

<codehead> k, here's a new pattern, this time triggered YM 13:40

ES same pattern but ER sloppy 13:41

<NihabaAshi> [13:29] <NihabaAshi> Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 693.00 «« simulator »» 13:43

That wasn't a Long entry. 13:44

I'm only going Short this afternoon into the close.

<codehead> ah, was wondering what you saw there

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 692.20 -> Add «« simulator »» 13:45

<codehead> out half +8 YM

<NihabaAshi> I have a 690 target on this trade but it just doesn't want to break down :( 13:49

<codehead> pesky bugger

<NihabaAshi> Will take that or the first appearance of a WRB.

ER2 currently setting up for a very shallow (small) WRB :( 13:50

<codehead> ER breaking a cci trendline here 13:53

for possible bounce 13:54

ES and YM trading same pattern, NQ and ER same pattern but different than YM/ES 13:55

<substanz> Long YM @ 11193

<NihabaAshi> ER2 WRB volatility spike.

<codehead> on YM seller lined up protecting s1, just under 11200 13:56

price touched it, backing off

i was on the phone earlier and didn't report i took +3 on the rest YM on a pb 14:03

doing various small scalps, i'll just post when it's on a pattern

Ym getting good support so far near yesterday's bottom, as you might expect on a big compacting dump like that 14:04

cci still trending up on YM 14:05

despite the price going to lows, cci couldn't reach the -100 14:06

and right back up into s1 14:07

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<codehead> looks like stuck in a range for now 14:08

<szubaark> exit stop set NQ @ 1513 14:09

This whole week so far Shitty Price Action. Im down for week so far. market confusing the hack out of me 14:10

Long periods of Consolidation followed by QUICK,Impossible to catch Moves 14:11

<eminitrader> es trying hard for the gap fill 14:13

<jperl> Here's what the TotalMarket is doing today.... 14:18

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-09/JP ERL_012.png

Two reversals....very unusual

<subq> total market? 14:21

<szubaark> Covered all Short NQ at 1509.75 --> 0

<jperl> Yes....weighted sum of nine indicies

<szubaark> frikin Chop

<subq> nice

what indices?

what is the reversal line? 14:22

<jperl> These indicies....

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-09/JP ERL_013.png

<szubaark> Buys NQ @ 1510.50 14:23

<jperl> reversal line is the average price for the day for the weighted sum

<subq> cool stuff there jperl

i like custom indicators and stuff

only custom one i watch is http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/08/0 9/$RVOLD_1t.png 14:24

uvol divided by dvol

<jperl> red and green lines are the 1st standard deviations

<subq> it was hard to watch vold :)

<eminitrader> es will not reverse before the gap fill ...rest is noise 14:25

<subq> but i think trading futures it is more important to watch indices and volume instead of the future itself

<NihabaAshi> Lower highs but I'm losing my patience...profit target (WRB nor 690) not being reached.

Looking to dump this trade.

<asuni> NEED TO GO CU U TOMORROW 14:26

<NihabaAshi> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 691.70 --> + 0.5 «« simulator »»

<szubaark> geez..losing my patience also 14:28

<NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 691.40 --> + 0.3 «« simulator »» 14:29

<szubaark> now Quick,sudden upthrust? 14:30

<NihabaAshi> I held on a little longer...it test 691.00 but no breakdown :(

<szubaark> looks like frikin lows are in.

<codehead> stuff stuck in ranges 14:31

<NihabaAshi> If it breaks below 691 on a WRB...I'll be shorting again.

<codehead> i keep buying 11178-ish and selling for 6 ticks, keep doing it till it stops working

<eminitrader> :)

<NihabaAshi> :) 14:32

<szubaark> Exited all Long NQ at 1510.75 --> + 0.25

Thats enough for today.

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<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 690.40 -> small size «« simulator »» 14:34

3 contracts and a small profit target 690 or a WRB.

Last trade of the day for me. 14:35

<codehead> phew, it's still working 14:36

lol

<eminitrader> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1280 --> + 4.25 14:37

<codehead> kept 1 this time

<eminitrader> thats 8 pts ..guess no tenner here

<codehead> nice 14:38

<eminitrader> thx code

missed my fill by a tick @ 1278 14:39

:((

<codehead> whew

nice target

<NihabaAshi> emini...good patience on that ES Short.

<codehead> or targeting

<eminitrader> yep 1277.25 wat the gap fill thought gave it room ...guess it was not meant to be 14:40

thx niha 14:41

<NihabaAshi> ER2 is due for one of those big WRBs...

<codehead> hm, dow curling

<NihabaAshi> Hopefully I'm not on the losing end of such.

<codehead> in a bottoming pattern--needs to get thru that tough 11200 of course

<eminitrader> think we 'll see new lod 14:42

<codehead> ER relatively ugly today

choppy down 14:43

<NihabaAshi> Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 690.00 --> + 0.4 «« simulator »» 14:44

Caught the WRB and may be able to get more on my remainder. 14:45

<eminitrader> this sucks ....

here's my tenner

<NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 687.90 --> + 2.5 «« simulator »» 14:46

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<NihabaAshi> Take care all and see all tomorrow. 16:23

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