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#FuturesTrades July 28th Monday 2008 Trade Log

Russell 2000 Emini ER2 Futures

Today	Month	Year
+0.00	+156.00	+2042.60
$0	$15,600	$204,260

Not Applicable

(on vacation)

No Trades (on vacation)

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Trade Posting Chat Log Info: My name is M.A. Perry (a.k.a. online as NihabaAshi - martial arts & Japanese Candlestick term) and I am the moderator of #FuturesTrades.

I use the below chat log as feedback to critical trading information that's not available when I review my broker statements nor any statistical analysis of my trading. Also, the above profit/loss info represents my trades only and all trades were posted in real-time within 5 seconds unless otherwise noted after entry or exit as shown in the below chat log.

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Session Start: Mon Jul 28 02:24:41 2008Session Ident: #FuturesTrades

* Now talking in #FuturesTrades 02:24

<@X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm

<ripsboy> morning all... 09:22

<PapaJon> gm all 09:25

<ItalianSharp> gm all 09:29

<Awash> good morning all 09:30

<Trader> Good morning Awash 09:34

<silo[zZ]> Long ER2 @ 708.50 «« paper »» 09:35

* silo[zZ] is now known as silo 09:36

<+silo> Exited all ER2 Long @ 710 --> + 1.5 «« paper »» 09:41

* willson is now known as baxwill 09:43

<baxwill> nice start for day silo 09:44

<+silo> :P 09:45

<szubaark> Shorts ES @ 1258 «« paper »» 09:46

<+silo> Shorts ER2 @ 708.50 «« paper »» 09:47

* subq market profile charts for today --- http://www.charthub.com/chart/search/mpc hart 09:48

<+szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1258 «« paper »» 09:51

<+silo> Shorts ER2 @ 708.10 -> Add «« paper »» 09:52

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1257.50 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 09:53

<+silo> Covered all ER2 Short @ 707.40 --> + 1.8 «« paper »» 09:58

<+szubaark> Buys ES @ 1256.75 «« paper »»

Exited all Long ES at 1258 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» 10:03

<+silo> Shorts ER2 @ 707.50 -> medium size «« paper »» 10:13

<startrader> Long NQ @ 1842

<@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission. More info at www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm 10:17

<+startrader> Exited 2/3 NQ Long @ 1844.50 --> + 2.5 10:18

<+silo> Covered all ER2 Short @ 707.50 --> 0 «« paper »» 10:21

<+ItalianSharp> This must be the ugliest OPEN i've seen in a long long while 10:22

something will pop soon, i dont see YM sitting within a 40pt range for much longer

<+Awash> agree

<+silo> Shorts ER2 @ 706.20 «« paper »» 10:23

<+startrader> Exited Remainder NQ Long @ 1846 --> + 4 10:24

<werner> hi all 10:29

<+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 1255 «« paper »» 10:42

<+silo> Covered all ER2 Short @ 704.80 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» 10:45

oh wait

that's not right

there was an add in there 10:46

+2.7 as well

so +4.1 total for that trade

one of hte short was supposed to be an add

target goal reached

just so you guys know.... these paper trades...the price i post are sometimes not the actual price since it's a paper trade.... so the profits are definetly inflated a little 10:47

'cuz er2's price moves so fast

<Nesi> Long ER2 @ 705.00 10:55

<+Nesi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 703.40 --> - 1.6 10:57

<+startrader> Long NQ @ 1840.25 10:58

<+Nesi> Long ER2 @ 704.00

<+szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1255 «« paper »»

<+Nesi> Long ER2 @ 704.50 -> Add 10:59

<+Awash> $SPX stuck in mud this morning 11:00

<+szubaark> yup, every tick is hard work

<+Awash> agree 11:01

Szu, do you generally keep your profit targets tighter in this type of market?

or just wait for price to open up?

<+szubaark> yes, but still have Profit Targets 11:02

<+Awash> k 11:03

this type of session calls for patience

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1253.75 --> + 1.25 «« paper »» 11:04

<+Nesi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 703.50 --> - 1.5

<+szubaark> yes, but still easy for "noise" to take you out even with good entry

due to the low volatility

* codehead_afk is now known as codehead 11:08

<nqcruiser> gm mates 11:24

<+nqcruiser> i hope we r not a ghostroom

as no1 talks here

<+Awash> people talk, often times you have to spur conversation 11:25

<+nqcruiser> ok wash 11:27

<+Awash> How's cruising in the NQ today? 11:28

<+silo> :P 11:33

<+Awash> this area is good support for ES, PDL's in this area 11:37

<+szubaark> Buys ES @ 1248 «« paper »» 11:39

<+Awash> Exit 1/4 ESU8 Short at 1247, + 25.50 Still holding 6 11:43

<+szubaark> nice 11:44

<+Awash> thanks

<+szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1248 «« paper »» 11:52

Exited all Long ES at 1249] --> + 1 «« paper »» 11:54

* szubaark is now known as szubaark_away

<KN-SR> Long ES @ 1249.00 11:55

<+KN-SR> s.l 47.00 11:56

bbl

<+Awash> On friday i mentioned i would email you all a copy of the webinar with the Pullback strategy 12:01

I found the link online and you can download it directly 12:02

<DJ> grt

<+Awash> http://www.cbot.com/cbot/pub/cont_det ail/0,3206,1058+47525,00.html?link=rss

view the May 11th Recording by Hubert Senters "Four Ways to Trade the Markets"

<+DJ> TY! 12:03

<+Awash> save it for future reference

two trades are the most important

Gotcha trade

Ambush trade signal

it's just a simple pullback and reversal strategy 12:04

<+DJ> TY, Awash, that will be a great ref point

<+Awash> yw, let me know what you think 12:05

<+DJ> sure will, awash 12:06

<+Awash> i may need a favor from you 12:07

<+DJ> who, me?

<+Awash> if you know someone else that was around friday and is not now and they ask about it in the future, do you mind sharing with them?

<+DJ> ;)

no problem

i have it saved

<+Awash> thanks

<+DJ> you're heading out soon, right? 12:08

back to normal job

<+Awash> two weeks left

<+DJ> k

<+Awash> i'll try and log in daily but i may not be at my desk to reply quickly

<+DJ> Great 12:09

<+ItalianSharp> awash, will you be leaving trading? 12:10

<+Awash> NEVER

I WILL ALWAYS TRADE

<+ItalianSharp> what's happening in 2 weeks then?

<+Awash> i just work a full-time job where i won't be able to post trades in #FT

<+szubaark_away> Shorts ES @ 1249.25 «« paper »»

<+ItalianSharp> have you been trading fulltime up to now? 12:11

<+Awash> nice short Szubaark, first sign of selling you dumped

i trade full-time but as a swing trader 12:12

swing positions over several days

<+ItalianSharp> ok...this allows you to have 2 jobs then

<+Awash> sometimes i play intraday swings, it all depends on price location in trend

<+ItalianSharp> i am just curious why someone successful in trading would go back to a normal job 12:13

<+DJ> great question....must love work

<+Awash> well, i don't plan to be at the regular job for more than two more years

<+ItalianSharp> what's the regular job like? what field if you dont mind? 12:14

<+DJ> Awash is rock star

getting tired of throngs of women

<+Awash> but honestly, with my style of trading, i don't need to be in front of a computer everyday all day

<+DJ> ;)

<+Awash> it's actually boring sitting here, i don't mean to down play trading but i'm bored as hell 12:15

<+szubaark_away> Covered all Short ES at 1248 --> + 1.25 «« paper »»

<+Awash> swing trading that is

<+DJ> you can break boredom by offering wisdom 12:16

unless that's boring as well

i apprec your input, Awash 12:17

<+Awash> no, i love to share information, i'm actually a teacher so it's second nature for me

<+DJ> AH HA!

<+ItalianSharp> what's the regular job like? what field if you dont mind?

<+Awash> teaching

<+ItalianSharp> you teach at school?

<+Awash> i'm a high school economics teacher

<+ItalianSharp> wow

really nice

<+Awash> it's fun, i even get to talk about trading in the economics club

it's awesome!!!!!!!! 12:18

<+DJ> that's great

<+ItalianSharp> you are going back for the passion to teach then, that's really honorable of you

<+DJ> Teachers ARE rock stars

<+ItalianSharp> they should double your salary IMO

<+DJ> at least my favorites were

<+Awash> thanks

<+DJ> well, your trading doubles it, right?

<+Awash> yep 12:19

<+DJ> i just contacted a teacher from 8th grade

she was thrilled to hear from me

<+Awash> about what? just for some random chatting

<+DJ> to thank her for the support

I had a broken family situation

she was fantastic

<+Awash> i'm glad she made a difference 12:20

<+DJ> found her on web

BIG diff

<+Awash> that's always rewarding for teachers

although, i didn't always want to be a teacher

<+DJ> I think she was very happy to hear from an old student

<+Awash> i found that profession because i was a losing trader out of college

<+DJ> well, trading can always be fulfilling

<+Awash> but i turned it all around with the help from others 12:21

<+DJ> well, you have gotten me on track

i have read a lot of the stuff you sent

<+Awash> glad to hear

<+DJ> TY! 12:22

scientist was great ref point and material

his tight stop read was fantastic 12:23

by the way, I have already employed that

in SIM mode

working well

<@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission. More info at www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm

<+Awash> good deal

<+DJ> saves me from huge swing losses

Thx again for that

if anyone else wants this I can provide the material in my saved emails 12:24

<+Awash> now, that guy was a scalper so that's why his stops were tight, if you find yourself getting stopped frequently, you can always adjust

<+DJ> YES

that makes sense

I am not confident to trade swings

I did some swing trading on equities 12:25

through options trades

<+Awash> did it work out?

<+DJ> sort of swinging mo to mo

Yes, it was fun and profitable

I am out of market for now as far as longs

<+Awash> swinging is less intensive than day trading

<+DJ> yes, but boring

at least to me 12:26

<+Awash> true but profitable if you can get it to work

<+DJ> i got good at covered calls

and some collars, etc

i am a real believer in put protection

if one wants to go long on a riskier entry 12:27

<+szubaark_away> Shorts ES @ 1248 «« paper »» 12:35

exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1248 «« paper »» 12:42

Covered all Short ES at 1246 --> + 2 «« paper »» 12:43

<+DJ> nice 12:44

<+szubaark_away> thnx

<+Awash> nice, good selling thru support

Exit 1/4 ESU8 Short at 1242, + 30.50 Still holding 2 12:57

Exit all ESU8 Short at 1242, + 30.50 Flat 13:01

<+silo> Long ER2 @ 700 «« paper »» 13:53

late entry

:(

<+Awash> let see if we get a solid pullback here 13:56

<+silo> Exited all ER2 Long @ 699 --> - 1 «« paper »» 13:59

<+Trader> Awash when you calculate the 30.5 you are talking about TOTAL TICKS ON SEVERAL CONTRACTS OR ON 1 CONTRACT ONLY? 14:01

sorry for yelling

<+Awash> 30.5 points from my average price on all contracts exited at that price 14:03

<anglo> nice trade awash 14:05

<+Awash> thanks

<+Trader> 30 POINTS. holly cow. Good for you. When I grow up I want to be just like you :-) 14:08

<+Awash> :) 14:09

<+Trader> is the materail DJ talking about written material or videos?

<+Awash> refresh my memory on what he chatted about...... 14:10

<+Trader> I don't know. DJ said that the material he read and that you sent him, helped him avoid mistakes.

<+Awash> ooooooooooohhhhh 14:11

i just sent him some good commentary from some traders from elitetrader.com

back in the day there was a lot of good stuff coming off that site 14:12

<+Trader> it was around 12:20

<+Awash> plus i had a journal there, use to get great feedback

<+Trader> maybe you could post those references here.

<+Awash> sure, i can't do it now but if you remind me that would be great. Sorry, when i leave my desk i don't think about anything related to work. I try to forget about wins and loses 14:14

<+Trader> ok i will thanks 14:15

<+Awash> pullbacks are minimal today, i've been waiting to reshort this but they're tight 14:16

<+codehead> YM lod hit .518 retracement on daily exactly 14:24

<+Awash> we went thru 51% 14:26

<+Trader> i see 38.2% 7/15 low 2/23 high 14:28

7/23

am i missing something?

<@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission. More info at www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm 14:29

<+Awash> i think codehead meant the .618 ret on daily exactly

<+Trader> actually i did in in reverse so the retracement is really 61.8 14:30

<+silo> Long ER2 @ 697.40 «« paper »» 14:31

Exited all ER2 Long @ 697 --> - 0.4 «« paper »» 14:44

<KN-SR> dead ...... no one is talking ........!! 15:03

<+KN-SR> humm

<+DJ> trader, still in? 15:04

<+KN-SR> hi DJ 15:05

what happen to this room

<+DJ> HI, KN!

<+KN-SR> wehre are the ppl

<+DJ> welcome back

<+KN-SR> :)

thanks

<+DJ> still on road, right?

<+KN-SR> yes

<+Trader> i am here DJ

<+KN-SR> had a hard time to connect to my home pc

<+DJ> I saw your messge 15:06

send me your email and I will forward the material

great stuff

<+Trader> I did. thanks

<+DJ> missed msg earlier on phone

<+Trader> KN I hope you are having fun on your vacation 15:07

<+DJ> got it

<+KN-SR> :) 15:08

how many of u think ES will hit 1297 agian?

<+Trader> it will the question is when 15:09

<+KN-SR> how about in 2 weeks 15:10

<+Trader> why?

<Awash1> i think we retest 1200 first, push a bit below it and then rally off 1180ish

<+KN-SR> thats the q

* Awash1 is now known as Awash

<+KN-SR> do u have a reason to believe that it will hit 97 ?

<+Awash> yes 15:11

<+KN-SR> hi Awash

<tzar> hi KN-SR!

<+Awash> howdy KN-SR

<+KN-SR> well, this is what i think

<+Trader> election year

<+KN-SR> it doesnt have much to do with election yr 15:12

<+Trader> the masses must feel good

<+DJ> trader, all messages forwarded to you

Great reads...all of them

<+KN-SR> if u map...... the last three election yr (month to month), this yr is unlike any previous election yr

<+DJ> Scientist is sharp

thx to Awash

<+KN-SR> so..........I think it has everything to do with options 15:14

so me and Awash.............. 2 so far 15:16

<+Trader> what about options? 15:17

<+silo> kn !!

:)

sup

<+KN-SR> hi silo 15:18

<+silo> Long ER2 @ 697.40 «« paper »» 15:24

Exited all ER2 Long @ 697.60 --> + 0.2 «« paper »» 15:31

<+KN-SR> humm 15:35

<+Trader> what about the options KN?

<+KN-SR> showing losts of short calls 15:37

should go other way ........ majority is alwasy wrong in options

well, since no one is talking.............i should stop now..........this room is getting ...... 15:39

need Niha back :) 15:40

<+Awash> :-)

great range today in ES

do you have time for a question KN-SR? 15:41

i'll chat

<+KN-SR> sure

i m not going anywhere till 1

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<+Awash> last week you called 1292 as an area to exit your long

<+KN-SR> yes 15:42

<+Awash> we came 3 ticks from it

<+KN-SR> yes

too bad

for me

<+Awash> you still held on to your long anticipating 1292 again that wednesday?

<+KN-SR> yes

i dont change my trade in the middle

<+Awash> can you briefly mention why 1292 was so significant for you?

i had that area as a key level too 15:43

<+KN-SR> lets start from ur side

<+Awash> sure

<+KN-SR> why do u think thats the key level?

b4 it reaching there?

<+Awash> 1292 was 38% retracement from may high to july low, exactly at 1292, plus it was the july high 15:44

1292 was 38% retracement from may high to july low, exactly at 1292, plus it was the july high

that's an area where long-term traders will try to short the pullback

based on what i say, they sold that area immediately without hesitating and we dropped fast that afternoon 15:45

say = saw

now, why was it significant for you (1292)? 15:46

<+KN-SR> well i dont use fibs or any s/r level except vol 15:47

well, fist .

i do trade some long term trades 15:48

and often hedge them with aother account to secure my profits

so once i m in a trade for a long time.. its not much about where the price is heading or going to

its all about hedging in places

right now i have my 1205 tade secred till 1280 15:49

is secured

so even if the price goes back to 1205 still i will have that 75 points

what often i do ..... to spot a level 15:50

is to look for vol

* +DJ is now away - Reason : Biz

<+KN-SR> i already told about the matrix window and vol in each price

<Awash1> my connect dropped

<+Trader> that matrix thing was not clear. Could you post something in the forum? 15:51

<+KN-SR> but what I do most often is to go back to my trades and find the levels i used to trade last time when price were at that level

for example. i can tell u all the levels between 1301 1400

so 1292 was a level i had way too many short trades last time 15:52

my tading is as simple as it gets :).................... 15:53

<+Awash1> understood

one more question about your comments

you mentioned you dont use s/r or fib levels to enter or exit your trading. If you knew a greater number of participants focused on those levels, will you even consider watching it as a potential point of a lot of market action?

<+KN-SR> let me post some lines from A22 15:56

* Awash1 is now known as Awash

<+KN-SR> [14:54:55] <A22> , you could point to the overwhelming 15 minute ES volume at 1205 15:57

[14:55:05] <A22> very different from the previous days

[14:55:16] <A22> to show that the big money was getting involved

[14:55:29] <KN-SR> yes

[14:55:29] <A22> and the market had a high probability of turninng

............ we are alwasy watching volume...... market activity........... if there is lots of market activites, we may have a key level of /r 15:58

s/r 15:59

<+Awash> understood 16:01

here is one unique thing about trading

there are thousands of traders, that trade thousands of different ways, take thousands of setups, et cetera. There's no real right or wrong way to trade, as long as you're making money then the way you trade is good enough 16:02

<+KN-SR> i agree

<+Awash> good stuff on your hedging

<+KN-SR> yes only if its a long term trade, 16:03

in short term or day trading it may kill u

with commissions

<+Awash> i'm definitely going to have to look into some hedging strategies

as for the market today 16:04

you can see the aggressiveness in the bears in shorting this

<+Trader> 2 me hedging does not make sense. if you have a profit and take the oposit position why not just close the trade?

<+Awash> the ranges are wide over the past three sessions

<+KN-SR> thats what u do when u day trade

the trades i usually post here are from my day trading.........get in and out with profits 16:05

<+Trader> if i have a profit I close it. I am not going to open an opposing trade. It make no sense to me.

<+KN-SR> well, no one is right or wrong here...........its just the way we feel comfortable 16:06

<+Awash> plus, trader, another way to look at it, we may not see 1205 again and it may be possible to catch a larger move of the intermediate trend, without closing your initial short

<+KN-SR> as long u and I both make money. we both are right

<+Awash> exactly, thousands of ways to trade

in the end, it's about what makes you profitable 16:07

<+KN-SR> i agree

<+Trader> i have no argument with a winning trader or system.

<+KN-SR> well, you may not find a suitable entry for a long term trade in next 20 days...... who knows

and again 16:08

hedging wont hurt u since u r just securing ur profit......

one trade loses and the other one makes up the losses

<+Trader> mybe my Autistic background requires a more alaborate explanation of hedging :-)

<+Awash> exactly

:-)

<+KN-SR> :)

to me

.......

<+Trader> as you know Autistic people are B & W................ 16:09

<+KN-SR> if i have a 50+ trade, i feel like anyting

<+Trader> very rule oriented

<+KN-SR> u cant rally explain it

really

and i dont care much abotu trades 10 or less........lots of work involved 16:10

<+Trader> I like the smaller trades. It is instant gratification

<+KN-SR> neitehr of us is wrong 16:11

:)

<+Trader> i didn't say that u r wrong KN

<+KN-SR> we are not

we all have our own way of trading

thats what make trading so dynamic

<+Trader> I think that the details of your strategy would probably - once explained - would make sense. 16:12

bad sentence composition but u got my point

<+Awash> good conversation for end of the day 16:13

i'm going to set some sell orders overnight

<JimL> KN, thanks for the insight. When you get back, maybe you would be so kind to post more screen shots of the matrix & volume setups. I've read the forum posts several times & I don't see the volume setups in the matrix. But as I see your posts during the day, you have an excellant track of getting the trades & then protecting your delta profits. I just can't figure out the matrix/volume setups that your seeing.

<+KN-SR> well, i think I have explained how I trade 100+ times in last 7 months

<+Trader> KN your explanation of the TS MAtrix use would be appreciated

<+KN-SR> i will try :) 16:14

i m joining in september

<+Trader> KN you remind me when I had to explain how to design electronic circuits many times over and I never understood why I was not understood .....

<+KN-SR> so new job may wont allow me as much time as i have time, well, i will try 16:15

<+Trader> for me it was like an instinct just like trading seems to be for you

<+KN-SR> may be, i agree 16:16

sometime i cannt even explain myself why i take a trade........just happens

:)

<+Trader> exactly

<+KN-SR> but I wont be trading much day trades from september

<+Trader> why?

<+Awash> sell limit to enter short ES @ 1242 16:17

not sure if we'll get there overnight but i'll try

thanks for everything all, definitely learned something

12good night

<+KN-SR> gn 16:18

<+Awash> good night

<+Trader> good night

<+tzar> gn

<+KN-SR> Well Trader, i m joing a hedge fund in september

and i will be mostly in long term trading

<+Trader> great

so we should learn everything we can from you until September

<+KN-SR> if u follow my trades, i moved to long term trades from scalping in last 7 months 16:19

u already know

just follow the chatt room logs from last 7 months

i think i explained everyting

<+Trader> KN I was not kidding about Autism. 16:20

let me give you an example

BTW do you know what is Autism?

<+KN-SR> :) 16:21

<+Trader> is that a yes?

<+KN-SR> I will try to explain one more time when i get back

but one thing i told again and again................

we need lots of screening time.... 16:22

<+Trader> anyway, one day my better half's son left the lights on as usual for teenagers and I said "I am sick and tired of you leaving the lights on" to which he replied " so why don't you take and Aspirin and go to bed"

<+JimL> That's what I missing...I was looking through thestrategylab forums for the KN descriptions. How do I get to chat logs for find the last 7 months??? I'll do the research & homework on KN's history if someone will direct me. 16:23

<+Trader> for him it was the correct solution to my problem

JimL the logs to this chat room are in the system but only if you were logged into this room.

you cannot see logs if you were not here 16:24

<+KN-SR> i dont think so

<+Trader> I am here about 2 weeks only

<+KN-SR> if u go to www.thestrategylab.com

<+Trader> sorry KN is right

there is a way

<+KN-SR> u will see the callender......and logs from every day 16:25

<+Trader> KN is right . I forgot

but you have to put things in context. ie look at a chart 16:26

<+KN-SR> anyway. i have leave for lunch.........will try to get back tomorrow if i m still in london

<+Trader> great. c u

bye everyone

<+KN-SR> talk to u later

take care and good trading

<+JimL> OK, I see the calendar area in thestrategylab. KN if you know when approximately you spent alot of time explaining I'll research all those logs. Think about it & we'll chat when you're back from holidays. 16:27

<+werner> gn all 16:30

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