Session Start: Thu Jul 21 09:30:59 2005Session Ident: #FuturesTrades
* Now talking in #FuturesTrades09:30
<X> [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab
<m618a> gm09:31
<FFT> Isn't Alan talking again today someplace?09:32
<NihabaAshi> Yes...10am est09:33
<FFT> Thanks Nihaba09:34
<NihabaAshi> Same time the 10am est Leading Indicator report is schedule for release.
<FFT>  Shorts ES @ 1235.25 09:36
Covered all ES Short @ 1235.25 --> 0
Whoops, that was the right price
<WannaBeATrader> that was yesterday niha09:39
<mispe>  Long ER2 @ 677
Exited all ER2 Long @ 677.7 --> + 0.7 09:40
<WannaBeATrader> nm. my bad
<patr82>  Shorts ES @ 1236.00 09:41
<FFT>  Shorts ES @ 1235 09:42
* lesAway is now known as les09:44
<mispe>  Long ER2 @ 676.4 09:45
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10683
Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10687 --> + 4 09:46
<les>  Buys ER2 @ 677 «« paper »»
<mispe>  Exited all ER2 Long @ 677.1 --> + 0.7
<TLTrader>  Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10683 --> 0 09:47
<FFT>  Covered ES Short @ 1235.75 --> - 0.75
Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1235.75
<tSOB>  Shorts ER2 @ 676.7 09:48
<les>  Exited all Long ER2 at 676.1 --> - 0.9 «« paper »» 09:49
<FFT>  Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1236.5 --> + 0.75 09:55
<mispe>  Shorts ER2 @ 677 09:56
<danshirley> numbers in 309:57
<FFT>  Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1226.25 --> - 9.5
Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1236.25 --> + 0.5 09:58
<mispe>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 676.7 --> + 0.3
<danshirley> 7 OUT OF 10 U.S. LEADING INDICATORS ROSE IN JUNE10:00
U.S. JUNE LEADING ECONOMIC INDICATORS UP 0.9%
<coolweb>  Long NQ @ 1610.50 -> small size «« paper »» 10:01

real

 mean
<danshirley> (.5% expected)
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ES @ 1235.50 -> small size
<coolweb>  exit stop set NQ @ 1609
<danshirley>  Shorts YM @ 10679 «« paper »»
<mispe>  Shorts ER2 @ 676.5
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 676.3 «« paper »»
<FFT> Red Alert Lots of red in #FuturesTrades :(10:02
<WannaBeATrader> lol. you have that in your script fft?
<danshirley>  Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10673 --> + 6 «« paper »»
<pdays>  Shorts YM @ 10675 «« paper »»
<FFT> It's a macro :)
<coolweb>  Trailing Stop Hit NQ @ 1609 --> - 1.5
<NihabaAshi> I'm at a pt1 but will ignore...looking for a pt2 unless my breakeven stop is hit.10:03
<danshirley>  Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10680 --> - 1 «« paper »» 10:04
<NihabaAshi> :(
Covered all ES Short @ 1235.50 --> 0
<szubaark> Not going anywhere :((10:05
<FFT> Too much disharmony
<mispe>  Covered all ER2 Short @ 676.4 --> + 0.1
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.
<FFT>  Shorts ES @ 1235.25 10:06
<pdays>  Covered all YM Short @ 10682 --> - 7 «« paper »» 10:07
<les>  Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 675.8 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 10:09

 exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 676.3 «« paper »»

this is tuff10:10
<NihabaAshi>  Shorts ER2 @ 675.80 -> small size
<les>  exit stop lowered ER2 @ 676 «« paper »»
<szubaark> Openings have been choppy lately even with Volatility there
<FFT>  Covered all ES Short @ 1234.25 --> + 1 10:11
<les>  Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 675.1 --> + 1.2 «« paper »» 10:12
<FFT> Getting some mild indications of a breakdown coming
* coolweb loves consolidation
<FFT> Heh, there it is
<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 674.80 --> + 1
<coolweb> all trendy is scary
<les> mild, eh?
Covered remainder Short ER2 at 674.7 --> + 1.6 «« paper »» 10:13
<coolweb> stopped out earlier for 1.5 pts

NQ couldn't hold
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 675.80
<coolweb> waiting to go long10:14
<pat255> nice ther niha ...geez missed your post ...:(
<NihabaAshi>  exit stop lowered ER2 @ 675.70
<pat255>  wow, ever dip held up...
<szubaark> Niha u getting nice followthru with the ER10:16
<NihabaAshi>  Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 673.70 --> + 2.1 10:17
<FFT> GOOG's at 313, sheesh.
<TLTrader>  Shorts YM @ 10667 10:18
<pdays>  Shorts YM @ 10667 «« paper »»
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 673.6 10:19
<FFT> OK< what happened? DId alan light up a reefer or something?
<tSOB> bombs in London10:20
<les>  Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 673.2 --> + 0.4
<FFT> Oh yeah? I thought the cops said that was nothing big?
<coolweb> who's the lucky folks who bought NQ @ 1620
<TLTrader>  Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10652 --> + 15
<les>  exit stop moved to breakeven ER2 @ 673.6
<NihabaAshi> In case anybody is wondering...my short is via the Special Free Strategy at ezboard...ER2 3min chart interval @ 1009am est...trade signal @ 676.10
However, I missed getting a "better entry" price at 676.20 and chased it down by 4 ticks.10:21
<FFT> Man, I was looking for 30 even to bail on my short, but I don't know now.
<les>  exit stop lowered ER2 @ 673 10:22
<coolweb> time to short10:23

time to wait to short :D
<les>  Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 672.6 --> + 1
<coolweb> no institutional buying yet10:25
<tSOB>  Covered ER2 Short @ 672.6 --> + 4.1 10:26
<les>  exit stop raised ER2 @ 673.4 10:28

late w/that, sorry

 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 673 --> + 0.6 10:29
<coolweb>  buy limit to enter long NQ @ 1601 10:30
cancelled all open stop orders 10:31
wait 15 mins10:32
<FFT> Come on 30.5 and I'm out.
<coolweb> something wrong with the bread I bought :<10:35
woops wrong channel
<TLTrader>  Covered Remainder YM Short @ 10656 --> + 11
* coolweb filtering out low volume trades from T&S10:36
<FFT> Finally, geez.10:37

Today ya gotta beat the other traders over the head with a brick to make money ;)
<pdays>  Covered all YM Short @ 10651 --> + 16 «« paper »» 10:38
<FFT> Unless yer pdays pulling in double digits. W2G.
<pdays> tnx...just no guts yet for the real stuff ;}10:39
<NihabaAshi>  Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 670.90 --> + 4.9
<szubaark> Nice Niha!
<danshirley> Greenie is talking again
<FFT> Hey, it's like I say to myself to keep from over trading - "Watching is way cheap" :)
Gratz Nihaba.10:40
<TLTrader> good one niha
<NihabaAshi> I'll send Greenie a commission check later as a thank you for today's profits and yesterdays profits via his ability to say "particular words" that relates directly to aneconmic report release as it is being released :)10:41
<FFT> Man, lookit all the money we left on the table.
<NihabaAshi> FFT...I caught a 6 point ride in ER2 yesterday in my remainders and still left 6 points on the table because it kepted going up :(10:42
<FFT> Greenspan musta said something about selling blotter acid to support the economy.10:43
<PapaJon> http://www.bloomberg.com/streams/audio/r adio_live.ram10:45
<danshirley> Blair talking in London: No casualties10:46

rather talking ABOUT London10:47
<patr82>  Covered all ES Short @ 1227.50 --> + 8.5
<NihabaAshi> A little more downwards and the Eminis will have retraced all of yesterday's impressive gains.10:48
<les> nice trading p82
<NihabaAshi> Reference to ER2.

NQ still holding more than 1/2 of its gains from yesterday.10:49
<FFT> PJ what's /ram? Real Player?
.ram?
<PapaJon> yeah
<FFT> MSFT still up for the day
<patr82> thanks les10:50
<les> er2's ground to a halt
<coolweb> movement is beautiful! :D
<PapaJon> FFT.. you have realplayer?10:51
<patr82> anybody think its going lower10:53
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 668.6 «« paper »»
<coolweb> patr82: sure, anything can happen
<patr82> well i could have said that10:54
<FFT> PJ, nope. Don't wanna install it on my trading system.

I might fire up my backup system and keep that on.
<coolweb> patr82: thats all the info requird :D10:55
<PapaJon> yep... i understand fft

Heres the link for the free one... http://forms.real.com/netzip/getrde601.h tml?h=software-dl.real.com&r=21a5d511655 db1631b14&f=windows/RealPlayer10-5GOLD_b b.exe&p=RealOne+Player&oem=dlrhap_bb&tag type=ie&type=dlrhap_bb
<szubaark>  Shorts YM @ 10633 10:56
<patr82>  Shorts ES @ 1228.75 10:57

i guess ill get back in the water
<les> i need a crystal ball right now
anyone know a cheap source?
<patr82> coolweb let me use his crystal ball. he said anything can happen10:58
<szubaark> Miss Cleo!
<coolweb> one particpant with his friends can bring the whole market down when they think its time , "oh bomb? good reason for me to release 500 contracts"

which is why you never know
<PapaJon> Here ya go les... http://www.turtletrader.com/images/cryst al-ball.jpg
<szubaark> Ms.Cleo will tell you where market is going 2-3 days in advance!
<les>  Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 668.3 --> + 0.3 «« paper »»
sorry, late
<coolweb> We are | | this close to breaking huge resistance.10:59

on NQ
<szubaark> http://www.princeton.edu/~pauper/02-01-2 8/Pictures/cleo.jpg
<coolweb> then next few days will be down days I think :D
<PapaJon> :)) szu11:00
<coolweb> or maybe we are setting up for a GOOG run

hah! who knows, I just go with the flow
<szubaark> Gooooooogggggggg!!11:02
<les>  Covered remainder Short ER2 at 668.5 --> + 0.1 «« paper »» 11:03
<szubaark>  Covered all YM Short @ 10645 --> - 12 11:09
deeper pullback then i thought!
Shorts YM @ 10656 11:12
lets try this again
<TLTrader> im buying a dip, if we get it11:13
<FFT>  Shorts ES @ 1231 11:14
<szubaark> already +40 off the lows..amazing
<diego12> sell ES 123111:15
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.11:17
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10650 11:19
<patr82> ive been short all day and im going to set my stop at 1235.25 on the es, that way if i get stopped out, i can go home with a little. im thinking this is just a large pullback and will end lower at the end of the day. my money is where my mouth is
<FFT>  Covered all ES Short @ 1230.25 --> + 0.75
Here's yer dip, TLT.11:20
Looks kinda more powrful than I expected, tho.
<TLTrader> yeah me too
<danshirley> Greenie talking about housing bubble11:21
<patr82> the best thing for me to do is leave my screen so i don't have to watch. either i get it or i don't. simple as that.11:22
<szubaark>  Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10648 --> + 8 11:27
<diego12> partial 30.2511:28
<szubaark>  exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10656
<TLTrader>  Exited all YM Long @ 10641 --> - 9 11:30
<FFT> Kinda slow easy drift down. Wonder if that suggests an upsurge to come.11:33
<NihabaAshi> Les and mispe or others in London area...

Don't take the bus nor subway.
<FFT> What have you done, Nihaba? ;)11:34
<NihabaAshi> Crazy...hopefully today's attacks are just copy cat bombers looking for publicity and not the real deal terrorists.

FFT...not my style.11:35
<diego12> cover rest
<NihabaAshi> If I wanted to put on a position and move the market in my way...I would do a phone call (fake) threat :)
<FFT> "LONDON (AFP) - Police said they have sent armed officers to investigate an "incident" at University College Hospital in London, as emergency services responded to several bombings in the city. "11:36
<NihabaAshi> Be safe and just think...they got the Olympics.

Hopefully they get this under control prior to the Olympic Games.11:37
<les> 201211:38
<tSOB> ^_^
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10643
<pat255> hope this crazy stuff stops ...but this unbelievable ...thot they will be more vigilant sfter the first one
<les> i think thats partly why this lots been less effective bombing11:41
also they were small bombs
everyone in london's on tenterhooks since first lot anyway, and they've already made a couple of arrests
<TLTrader>  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10645 --> + 2 11:44

taking too long

 Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10643 --> 0 11:45

Oooooo!11:50
<codehead> phily fed numbers soon11:52
yeah, i typed "dow has come to a point in a tringle" in antoher room, and by the time i finished typing it popped 10
number should be out about now12:02
<NihabaAshi> Looks like the Philly FED is a bust :(12:10
* PapaJon is now known as PapaJon_afk12:13
<danshirley> LOUD BANG HEARD NEAR ST. PAUL'S: DOW JONES NEWSWIRES12:16
* Disconnected 12:20
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<X> [NihabaAshi] Password, trade post script, trader profiles and trade journals are posted ONLY at the discussion forum at http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10656 12:27
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.12:29
<tSOB> oops. missed entry12:30
<TLTrader>  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10667 --> + 11 12:31

 exit stop set YM @ 10655 12:33

looking for 10680ish12:35

 Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10675 --> + 19

crap, was typing when we got there
* FFT_Real is now known as FFT12:37
<TLTrader> awful lot of guys losing their connection12:50
<FFT>  Shorts ES @ 1236.5 12:55
<TLTrader> big tick13:02
<FFT>  Covered all ES Short @ 1237 --> - 0.5 13:06
<szubaark>  Covered all YM Short @ 10656 --> 0 13:07

got back and u we going higher

 Shorts YM @ 10702 13:10

 Covered 1/2 YM Short @ 10692 --> + 10 13:12

 exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 10702
<patr82> came bck from lunch, got stopped out kept a little. see everyone tomorrow13:13
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10681 13:17

 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10683 --> + 2 13:19

 Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10685 --> + 4 13:20
* WannaBeATrader is now known as WBAT-lunch13:22
* Disconnected 13:44
* Attempting to rejoin channel #FuturesTrades13:58
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<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10678 14:01
<szubaark> you walked right into that one TLT14:02
<TLTrader>  Exited all YM Long @ 10670 --> - 8
* lesAway is now known as les14:06
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 674.1 «« paper »» 14:07

 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 673.6 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 14:13
<tSOB>  Shorts ER2 @ 673.8 14:14
Covered ER2 Short @ 675.3 --> - 1.5 14:15
no joy there
<les>  Covered remainder Short ER2 at 674.6 --> - 0.5 «« paper »»

thats what happens when ya vilate yr own trading rules

:(14:16

violate, even
<tSOB> that may well be true. this one was good on the rules, though.
<les> what dya mean?14:18
<tSOB> oh, my bad. I thought you were talking about me.
<les> no14:19

about my sim trade
<diego12> sell ES 31.7514:27
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 673.2 «« paper »»

Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 672.6 --> + 0.6 «« paper »» 14:28

 Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 672 --> + 1.2 «« paper »» 14:30

 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 672.5 «« paper »» 14:31

 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 672 «« paper »» 14:33

 Covered remainder Short ER2 at 671.8 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» 14:36
<diego12> cover 1/2
<les> back later
* les is now known as lesAway
<diego12> stop set at 31.7514:37
<TLTrader> .14:48
<szubaark> ..14:51
<TLTrader> just testing connection , 45 mins ago everyone but emini dissapeared for about 15 mins14:52
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.14:53
* PapaJon_afk is now known as PapaJon14:56
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10647 -> small size 14:58

 Exited all YM Long @ 10641 --> - 6 14:59

 Long YM @ 10644 15:01
<szubaark>  Covered all YM Short @ 10650 --> + 52 15:02
Long YM @ 10650
<TLTrader>  Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10647 --> + 3 15:03

 Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10652 --> + 8 15:04

nice short szu15:06
<szubaark> thnx
Exited all YM Long @ 10650 --> 0
* WBAT-lunch is now known as WannaBeATrader15:08
<TLTrader>  Shorts YM @ 10645 15:11
Covered all YM Short @ 10654 --> - 9 15:12
<diego12> out ES
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 670.7 «« paper »» 15:24
Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 670.2 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 15:33
Covered remainder Short ER2 at 670.7 --> 0 «« paper »» 15:34
<szubaark>  Shorts YM @ 10647 15:35
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 670.1 «« paper »»
Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 669.7 --> + 0.4 «« paper »» 15:37
Covered 1/3 Short ER2 at 669.8 --> + 0.3 «« paper »» 15:38
t&S is churning like mad15:39
Covered remainder Short ER2 at 670.1 --> 0 «« paper »»
<TLTrader>  Long YM @ 10647 15:41

 Exited 1/2 YM Long @ 10649 --> + 2

Exited Remainder YM Long @ 10647 --> 0

got spooked15:42
<szubaark> this is Frustrating Short15:44
Covered all YM Short @ 10648 --> - 1 15:46
coudnt take it anymore15:47
<les>  Shorts ER2 @ 668.1 «« paper »» 15:58
<TLTrader>  Shorts YM @ 10639 15:59
Covered all YM Short @ 10638 --> + 1 16:00
<les>  Covered all Short ER2 at 668.8 --> - 0.7 «« paper »» 16:05

 Buys ER2 @ 668.9 «« paper »»
<X>  #FuturesTrades Info -> This room is only for Trade Posting (real or paper) and/or discussions about a posted trade or key market events that could affect a trader's open trade position. LURKING not allowed..strictly enforced.
<les>  Exited 1/3 Long ER2 at 669.4 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 16:08

 Exited remainder Long ER2 at 668.9 --> 0 «« paper »» 16:11
<TLTrader>  Shorts YM @ 10634 16:14
<Awash_afk> .16:17
<TLTrader>  Covered all YM Short @ 10633 --> + 1 16:27
<NihabaAshi> See all tomorrow.16:29
<TLTrader> i'm gone too
* DisconnectedSession Close: Thu Jul 21 16:31:03 200516:31