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July 13th Thursday 2006 Trade Log

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Session Start: Thu Jul 13 09:29:20 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades

* Now talking in #futurestrades 09:29

<eminitrader> morn szu

<Awash> good morning all 09:30

<eminitrader> morn A 09:31

<szubaark> gm emini

<Awash> morning E

<les> Shorts ER2 @ 698.8 «« paper »» 09:33

Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 698.3 --> + 0.5 «« paper »»

<eminitrader> oil hitting $ 76... cnbc 09:34

<les> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 698.8 --> 0 «« paper »»

<marklc> oil is 75.55 09:35

Brent cude

crude

<eminitrader> cnbc - oil hit a high of 76 ..may have pulled a bit 09:36

<marklc> this is probably the Nymex price

* DisconnectedSession Close: Thu Jul 13 09:36:32 2006

Session Start: Thu Jul 13 09:38:35 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades

* Now talking in #futurestrades 09:38

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<pdays> Shorts ER2 @ 698.4 «« paper »» 09:39

<pat255> gm all 09:41

<eminitrader> morn pat 09:42

<pat255> morn emini

<pdays> Covered all ER2 Short @ 697.7 --> + 0.7 «« paper »» 09:43

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 696.90 -> small size 09:46

1 contract only

ER2 should be dropping hard but its not and that is making me a little suspicious about any Short positions. 09:48

<les> niha - i think that 695.4 might be a support level here 09:49

due to it being open of the wrb on the 29th

<pat255> nice read niha to take S here .. 09:50

<NihabaAshi> :)

Les...yes...I'm watching that closely for a possible profit target.

<les> or a bounce ?? 09:51

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<les> right, its broken down past that

<NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 695.30 --> + 1.6 09:53

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<pat255> vn niha ...

<szubaark> Long NQ @ 1496.50 09:55

<les> Shorts ER2 @ 695.2 «« paper »» 09:58

<szubaark> Exited all NQ Long @ 1496.25 --> - 0.25

<les> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 694.7 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» 09:59

<pat255> not easy to S & L sigh ..

<les> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 695.2 --> 0 «« paper »»

<substanz> Long YM @ 10964 «« paper »» 10:01

<szubaark> Long NQ @ 1494.75 10:05

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1256.75 10:10

<cmr> More then 10 points keeping ER2 Short since yestarday.

Keep shorting ...

<PapaJon> very nice cmr 10:11

i noticed that last night.. your hold o/n

<szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven NQ @ 1494.75

cancelled all open stop orders 10:12

not gonna wiggle take me out

Exited all NQ Long @ 1496.50 --> + 1.75 10:13

<substanz> Exited all YM Long @ 10965 --> + 1 «« paper »» 10:14

Exited all YM Long @ 10962 --> - 2 «« paper »»

<szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1496.25 10:15

<substanz> Shorts YM @ 10962 «« paper »»

Covered all YM Short @ 10972 --> - 10 «« paper »» 10:18

<eminitrader> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1257.75 --> + 1 10:20

Exited ES Long @ 1257.25 --> + 0.5 10:22

Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1257.25

Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1256.25 --> + 1 10:25

Covered ES Short @ 1257.25 --> 0 10:26

Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1257.25

<substanz> Long YM @ 10962 «« paper »»

<eminitrader> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1258.25 --> + 1 10:29

<jperl> SOX high of day

<substanz> Exited all YM Long @ 10972 --> + 10 «« paper »» 10:30

<szubaark> Covered all NQ Short @ 1501.50 --> - 5.25 10:31

Long NQ @ 1501.50

<eminitrader> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1259.25 --> + 2 10:32

<pat255> vn emini 10:35

<eminitrader> thx pat 10:36

Exited ES Long @ 1260.50 --> + 3.25 10:37

Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1260.50

<les> Shorts ER2 @ 699.3 «« paper »» 10:38

<szubaark> nice emini 10:40

<eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1261.50 --> - 1

<les> Covered all ER2 Short @ 700.1 --> - 0.8 «« paper »» 10:41

<szubaark> Exited all NQ Long @ 1507.50 --> + 6 10:42

Shorts NQ @ 1507 10:43

exit stop moved to breakeven NQ @ 1507 10:48

Covered all NQ Short @ 1507 --> 0 10:50

Shorts NQ @ 1505.25 10:52

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<szubaark> Covered all NQ Short @ 1505.25 --> 0 11:07

had 3 points didnt take it :((

Shorts NQ @ 1503.25 11:08

Covered all NQ Short @ 1502.50 --> + 0.75 11:13

too frikin tight to get any points

<jperl> ER2 oscillating about VWAP 697.70 11:18

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1256.50 11:21

2 only

<Awash> Long ES or YM @ 10980 «« paper »» 11:24

<eminitrader> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1258.50 --> + 2 11:26

<szubaark> Shorts NQ @ 1504.25 11:27

<asd> short qm @ 76.15 risk 0.2

cover qm @ 75.95 11:31

<eminitrader> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1256.50 11:34

<szubaark> Covered all NQ Short @ 1507 --> - 2.75 11:35

Long NQ @ 1507

<Awash> exit stop raised ES or YM @ 10981 «« paper »» 11:37

<codehead> seeing tech get bought today on the gap down

SMH green

<szubaark> NQ going for gap close 11:38

<Awash> Exited all ES or YM Long @ 10980 --> 0 «« paper »» 11:42

sorry, 10980 for +1

10981 11:43

<szubaark> Exited all NQ Long @ 1507 --> 0 11:44

Shorts NQ @ 1506.25 11:46

Covered all NQ Short @ 1510 --> - 3.75 11:55

Long NQ @ 1509.75

<codehead> dow still traingulating 11:57

and naz still wedging 11:59

above 2080 might try another 10 for gap fill

<szubaark> All i know is No more Shorts for me.. only Longs now.. 12:00

<Awash> Long ES or YM @ 1261.15 «« paper »»

exit stop set ES or YM @ 1260.25 «« paper »» 12:01

1261.25

<codehead> dow breaking triangle a bit, naz testing for bullish wedge b/o 12:02

<Awash> Exited all ES or YM Long @ 1260.25 --> - 0.9 «« paper »» 12:04

Shorts ES or YM @ 1259.75 «« paper »» 12:06

<pat255> c u all later ty 12:07

back to office

<codehead> cya pat

naz trying the wedge... 12:09

thru bya fraction 12:10

<Awash> Covered all ES or YM Short @ 1261.50 --> - 1.75 «« paper »»

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<szubaark> this wants to close gap bad 12:13

<codehead> here we go

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<eminitrader> Exited ES Long @ 1262.50 --> + 6

Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1262.50

2 only

<szubaark> dang emini.. 6 on ES nice 12:14

<Awash> nice emini

<eminitrader> was patient enough:)

thx guys

<szubaark> yeah.. my patience's running thin on this action this week.. making too many trades in tight ranges 12:15

I must remember its JULY!!

<eminitrader> i observed that szu...

like i said before july and aug are a traders nightmare well at lest for me on the es...trying to come out of it.in july i have been doing decent just the past 2 days and half the month is over 12:17

Covered ES Short @ 1263 --> - 0.5 12:18

Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1263

<substanz> Shorts YM @ 11002 «« paper »» 12:20

<szubaark> yes.. ive been doing real good for july.

Exited all NQ Long @ 1515.75 --> + 6 12:21

taking some Profit to go Even for day

<eminitrader> way to go szu..never know when the ride starts or ends its JULY :)) 12:23

Long ES @ 1261.50 -> Add 12:24

holding 3 12:25

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<substanz> Covered all YM Short @ 10990 --> + 12 «« paper »» 12:26

Long YM @ 10990 «« paper »» 12:32

Exited all YM Long @ 10989 --> - 1 «« paper »» 12:41

<Awash> Shorts ES or YM @ 1261.25 «« paper »» 12:50

<szubaark> Long NQ @ 1510.25 12:54

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1260.25 -> Add 12:55

holding 5 long

stop 1259.25

<szubaark> emini im with you 12:57

<eminitrader> :) 12:58

may not work out szu ..lot of selling pressre 12:59

guess we will know soon

if 1259 holds on the es ..hope for a gap fill 13:00

<szubaark> any push up Ill move Stop to breakeven 13:01

right now they not giving any breathing room

<eminitrader> Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1261.50 --> + 1.25 13:02

holding 4

thts a b/e 13:03

<szubaark> Exited all NQ Long @ 1508 --> - 2.25 13:04

guess they want down

Shorts NQ @ 1507.75

<Awash> Covered all ES or YM Short @ 1259.25 --> + 2 «« paper »»

<eminitrader> Exited ES Long @ 1259.25 --> - 3.75

Reverse and Enter Short ES @ 1259.25

5 contracts 13:05

will probably see new lows

Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1257.25 --> + 2 13:09

wrong

Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1257.75 --> + 1.5

holding 3 13:10

Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1258.25 --> + 1 13:13

<Awash> nice eMini 13:14

<eminitrader> 2 contract trades only rest of the day

<Awash> you took a loss and then squeezed more points on the reversal

<eminitrader> thx A just made up my add on fiasco 13:15

good sell @ around 1261 13:16

<Awash> thanks 13:19

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<szubaark> lets see if we crack lows here

<eminitrader> most likely 13:26

<szubaark> emini what u think about NQ chart right now? will test lows? 13:27

<eminitrader> nq holding up strong today 13:28

<szubaark> so is ER

ER and NQ are twins

<eminitrader> looks like es is the only one having good swings today

nq broke my key supp @ 1504 lokely test lows 13:30

any shorts around 1509 hold on 13:31

<szubaark> im in at 1508 13:32

<eminitrader> good :)

try locking in some szu

have around 5 pts now 13:33

<szubaark> im only trading 1 contract again 13:36

dont have the balls yet for 2

<Awash> me either

still on paper, testing strategy 13:37

<jperl> shouldn't be thinking about number of contracts,,,,,

more important is how much to risk per trade

<eminitrader> true jper1

<jperl> general consensus is 2% of total capital 13:38

<eminitrader> i'm @ 1%

oil @ 76.50 13:39

<jperl> ok so if you have a 50K account then 1% is $500 13:40

<eminitrader> yep

<jperl> you should then be willing to risk $500 on each and every trade you make 13:41

<eminitrader> looks like a tenner szu ..:))

<jperl> For ER2 that would be 5 pts 13:42

on a 1 contract trade

<Awash> Jperl, what if you place several trades a day and lose, you're basically risking more than a 2% of portfolio value daily?

<eminitrader> 10 pts on the es for 1 contract

<jperl> a 1% risk factor means you could make 100 trades before you are wiped out 13:43

<eminitrader> its not per day A its per trade if u lose a trade then the risk for next trade is 1% of remaining capital

<jperl> If you have lots of losing trades in a row then you better rethink your trading method

<Awash> understood, do you advocate or have an opinion as to max draw per day?

draw = drawdown 13:44

<jperl> personally for me, three losing trades in a row and I stop trading

<eminitrader> i stopp @ 3% for that day ..but usually double my size after 1.5% 13:45

thats about right around 3 consecutive losses

means either overtrading or not being able to read the flow that day either way good day to take a break :) 13:46

<Awash> k 13:47

<eminitrader> overtrading in terms of random trades / chasing etc ..entering w/o a set-up

<jperl> It wasn't until I thought in terms of risk percentage/trade that I started making profits

what this means in practice..... 13:49

if you enter a trade and starts moving against you....

don't get scared off unless 13:50

a)it no longer satisfies your entry criteria or

b)you reach your risk factor(1% or 2% of your capital)

<eminitrader> looks like its rebound time 13:51

<Awash> jperl, nice commentary 13:52

same E

<eminitrader> urw A 13:53

<jperl> For me this means that I would be willing to scale in to "a losing trade"

as long as it stays below my risk factor

<eminitrader> i dont practice this now jper1 ..unless i'm already in the green upto that trade..never when on a loss at the pt of iniating that trade 13:54

intiating 13:55

learned that the hard way...real hard

<szubaark> Covered all NQ Short @ 1497.75 --> + 10

<eminitrader> szu u still holding

<szubaark> hehe..just got out 13:56

<jperl> yes....well don't confuse scaling in with averaging down....not the same

<Awash> Nice Szu

<eminitrader> was thinking greedy you :))

<szubaark> well..im Profitible for the day and im DONE. Made too many stupid trades today.

<eminitrader> ok u mean scaling in on a winner

<jperl> no.... 13:57

<eminitrader> nice one szu good trading

<jperl> I mean scaling in period....

<eminitrader> then its avg on a loser right

k 13:58

<jperl> If a trade is moving against me....I might consider scaling in....

as long as it still meets my entry criteria

at the lower price

<eminitrader> any paricular rules to dictate this or is it random

got you

<jperl> I just don't scale in willy nilly....that's death 13:59

<szubaark> thanks

<cmr> IMHO there is only one trade to place at open: Short Cover at the end of day. Next day do the same. Don't need to scalp

<eminitrader> know what ur talking about..i only do this if i'm on the plus on prior trades

<jperl> ok emini.....you have to develop your own methodology 14:00

<cmr> Today is a normal day: ending down around 2%

<eminitrader> what abt tommorow 14:01

<cmr> Don't see any big change in the comming weeks. Oil with records high and Global uncertainity will drive markets further down 14:03

<eminitrader> k thx ..so its short at the open and cover at the close right

<Awash> :) 14:04

:)

<cmr> Better to keep contracts overnight until the recovery will happen.

<eminitrader> whats the stop urecommend ? 14:05

<cmr> From yestarday until the open of today, there was 10 points (ER2)

<eminitrader> so its the high of previous day ?

<cmr> I suggest stop, if we're going to have another day with more than 1% gain

<eminitrader> k thx 14:06

<cmr> It was 1 hour before market close yestarday, I traced the ER price: 706.5 14:07

<eminitrader> what entry do u suggest for today if not short yet 14:08

<cmr> I would short ER2 @696.5 if it gets that price again 14:10

<eminitrader> k thx gain 14:11

again

<Awash> Long ES or YM @ 1255.50 «« paper »» 14:15

<eminitrader> nice vol on the ES million traded with an hr and half to go 14:26

<Awash> Exited all ES or YM Long @ 1254.25 --> - 1.25 «« paper »»

sorry, wrong price

Exited all ES or YM Long @ 1254.50 --> - 1 «« paper »» 14:27

<cmr> eminitrader: if you had shorted ER2 stay like that. Keep it same days, u will win.

<eminitrader> thx cmr but i trade only the ES 14:29

any comments on the ES 14:30

oil closes @ 76.70 wonder what the price/gallon will be when we r done with trading 14:32

today ..should have filled her up yesterday :( 14:33

and should have held that short from 1262.50.. 14:34

and and and........lol

<Awash> :) 14:35

<eminitrader> nothing much to do A

<Awash> still time left in market to trade 14:37

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<jperl> those of you interested in scaling....I will post todays trading executions...

<eminitrader> no i'm done for the day A unless... 14:38

<jperl> http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-07-13/JP ERL_011.png

a reasonably good day trading only 1 or 2 contracts

<eminitrader> r u holding any or is it in and out 14:39

<jperl> all out

<eminitrader> k thats a decent day of trading u got there jper1 14:40

<jperl> it's a little on the shy side for me

<Awash> nice trading

<jperl> today was strange market to say the least...very mixed 14:41

<eminitrader> come to think of it, there was a natural flow to it at least on the ES ..intially it sold off, then it pulled back to a exactly 40% retracement level from the start of this downmove ( 1282.50 - 1256 )recent high and now the continuation of the trend .. 14:45

was around 38% actually...40% is at 1266.50 ..that was to be my entry :( 14:46

<cmr2> jper: I was asking if u could tell how to obtain that track record, when I loose connection

<jperl> i'll post the link again 14:47

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-07-13/JP ERL_011.png

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 692.40 -> small size 14:55

1 contract only 14:56

<cmr2> Ok jperl, I got the link, but would like to know how do u generate that report.I supose u trade with IB, correct?

<jperl> yes....I use zerolinetrader as a front end through which I do the trading from a DOM 14:57

report is generated by zerolinetrader software 14:58

<cmr2> thanks. How much doest it costs the zerolinetrader?

<jperl> yearly fee is about $70/year 14:59

cheap

very nice front end

easy to scale in and out

<NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 692.50 -> Add 15:00

Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 691.80 --> + 0.7 15:02

<cmr2> I've instaled the simulater version. Do u use any strategie from them? 15:04

<NihabaAshi> Covered all ER2 Short @ 692.30 --> + 0.1

:(

<jperl> not from them

<NihabaAshi> Take care all and see all tomorrow.

<jperl> I don't think there are any

<eminitrader> that was a quick in and out niha see you tommorwo 15:05

<NihabaAshi> Yes...got a poor entry on that ADD and decided to call it a day...a little tired from all the personal home care stuff I did today. 15:06

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<PapaJon> cya.. take care niha 15:07

<cmr2> jperl: do u have your own strategie?

<jperl> yes of course 15:10

<cmr2> Do u use tech analysis on the charts, or pivot points, or fixed profit/loss on each trade? 15:11

<jperl> all of the above 15:12

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1249.75

2 only

<cmr2> Do u use the charts of IB or from zerolinetrader?

<jperl> I use ensignsoftware

<eminitrader> Exited all ES Long @ 1249.75 --> 0 15:13

<cmr2> do u usualy make so many trades as today? Only on ER2? 15:14

<eminitrader> Long ES @ 1249 15:16

<jperl> today was excessive number of trades for me. I usually trade just ER2 15:19

<cmr2> Better to short eminitrader, tomorrow will have your profit.

<eminitrader> :)) 15:20

<cmr2> I think it's a very good instrument. How many years trading like that?

<eminitrader> just 2 contracts ...looking for a quick scalp to end the day..tomorow is new game 15:21

* cmr2 slaps cmr2 around a bit with a large trout 15:24

<jperl> see you all tomorrow...have a good evening 15:25

<PapaJon> cya jperl 15:26

<eminitrader> taking time for a bounce ...if at all

thats better 15:29

<PapaJon> I called the floor for ya et.. told em to buy 15:31

<eminitrader> Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1251 --> + 2

thx pj

can u do it once more plsssssssss

<PapaJon> I'll try.. they get kinda annoyed if dont to much 15:32

dont = done

<eminitrader> lol ..thx for trying

<PapaJon> :) 15:34

<eminitrader> just thinking if i'm being greedy...my risk was just 3 ticks 15:35

<PapaJon> eh.. just move it to b/e 15:36

<eminitrader> also thinking if being stingy is better than being greedy ..just take it now 15:37

Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1250 --> + 1 15:38

was that u selling pj :))

<PapaJon> :)... nice way to end the day

<eminitrader> thx bud

<PapaJon> nope.. i dont trade es

<eminitrader> just kiddin 15:39

<PapaJon> I'm one of those er2 fiends

<eminitrader> then u gotto thx cmr...

<PapaJon> lol.. yep 15:40

been a wacky day for my strats...

still ended in the black but... i dont like this type of mkt action 15:41

not enough momo

<eminitrader> july pj ..hoping to just get thru this month w/o a hit

<PapaJon> yesterday bit 2/3 my arse off

grew a little of it back today.. hehe

<eminitrader> lol

<PapaJon> was weird yesterday.. cuz all my trades met all my criteria.. i double checkied that 15:42

<eminitrader> guess u need to spend more time eating than trading

get that pretty back of yours in action for better days

<PapaJon> hehe

it aint that pretty 15:43

<eminitrader> dont tell me...u a female right

<PapaJon> not

<eminitrader> gotcha !

<PapaJon> im a grandpa 15:44

fairly young one

<eminitrader> i know u mentioned that befor

<PapaJon> still have all my hair

lol

course.. my dad died at 80 with full head of hair

<eminitrader> runs in the family eh 15:45

<PapaJon> not for my bro.. unless he got his from my moms dad

<eminitrader> now that i dont want to get into

<PapaJon> :) 15:46

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<PapaJon> why's that.. you little thin on top? 15:47

<eminitrader> what a guess i give it to u

all from trading .lol 15:48

<PapaJon> hehe

it 15:49

it's those damn gamma rays from our monitors

lol

<eminitrader> its more from the p&l screen :)))) 15:50

<PapaJon> hehe... agree

<eminitrader> specially since its my only source of income 15:51

<PapaJon> how long have you been trading? 15:53

<eminitrader> thanx for the chat pj ..gotto take the kids to the library see u in the morn

<PapaJon> k.. cya.. take care

<Awash> i'm out too

<eminitrader> from 5+ yrs

<Awash> good night all

<PapaJon> cya awash

<eminitrader> bye all

<cmr> How was your day szubaark ? 16:13

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