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<ripsboy> | gm all... | 09:29 |
<base> | gm all |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:32 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 851.70 -> small size |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 851.90 --> + 0.2 | 09:35 |
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| Long ER2 @ 855.10 -> small size | 09:48 |
<Awash> | non-stop buying this morning | 09:49 |
<RONDOE> | good-morin -all |
<NihabaAshi> | I had some data problems and couldn't re-enter after the first Long trade I took :) |
| It's going to be one of those mornings :( | 09:50 |
<base> | There is S2 at 855.60 |
<eminitrader> | Shorts ES @ 1540 | 09:53 |
| quick scalp |
<Awash> | non-existent pullbacks so far | 09:55 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 855.30 --> + 0.2 | 09:56 |
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<base> | Excuse me, it is R2 level not S2, of course. |
| NihabaAshi: Good luck. | 09:57 |
<eminitrader> | shld see some res here |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Thu Jul 12 10:00:36 2007 | 10:00 |
| Session Start: Thu Jul 12 10:08:22 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<eminitrader> | ES holding up very well..looks strong | 10:11 |
<pat255> | yes em ..man it takes guts to S this move up .. | 10:12 |
<eminitrader> | 5 lot and now stop 4 ticks...not too bad pat |
<jperl> | ER@ @ VWAP 853.85 | 10:13 |
<eminitrader> | 39-41 ..res area..shld see some pullback...but its holding up |
| looks like it will prolly blast thru this take out stops | 10:14 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 854.00 -> small size | 10:15 |
<base> | I am short since 16:09 at 854.00. (paper) | 10:17 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 854.20 -> Add | 10:19 |
<eminitrader> | looks like ym failed on retest |
<Awash> | consolidation starting to form since HOD | 10:21 |
<jperl> | market waiting for 10:30 EIA Natural Gas Report |
<eminitrader> | Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1539 --> + 1 | 10:22 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 853.50 --> + 0.7 | 10:23 |
<base> | Covered ER2 Short @ 583.30 --> + 0.7 (paper) |
| Correction: 853.30 | 10:25 |
<wizardofrijnsaterwou> | -) | 10:26 |
<base> | It could be good short, if closed at 583.30 :) | 10:27 |
<eminitrader> | missed t2 by 1 tick and also a reversal :(( |
| shld test that area again ..hope fully will gat a fill | 10:28 |
<jperl> | ER2 price action on the short side of the VWAP | 10:30 |
<eminitrader> | Covered ES Short @ 1540 --> 0 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ES @ 1540 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 853.90 --> + 0.1 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 854.10 -> small size | 10:32 |
<eminitrader> | chased it by abt 2 pts......but looks good |
<ItalianSharp> | bush is speaking now |
| Iraq war report | 10:33 |
<NihabaAshi> | Thanks Italian...didn't know he was on TV. | 10:35 |
| I hate being in a trade when Bush is speaking. |
<jperl> | Short everything when he speaks |
<eminitrader> | :)) | 10:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 853.90 --> + 0.2 |
| Will stay on the sidelines until President Bush is done talking. |
<eminitrader> | Exited all ES Long @ 1540 --> 0 | 10:37 |
<NihabaAshi> | That guy has caused me more losses while in a trade than anything else :( |
<Awash> | Long ES @ 1540 |
<eminitrader> | hehehe |
<jperl> | how can that be..... |
<NihabaAshi> | By the way, he likes to do his speeches when there's a key energy report release. |
<jperl> | every time he opens his mouth, the market drops like now |
<eminitrader> | NQ is a drag on the mrkt so far |
<NihabaAshi> | Always odd with the timing of his speeches when they occur during market hours. | 10:38 |
<ItalianSharp> | yeah, he's the all-time markets jinxer |
<eminitrader> | es ym held long enough to try the followthru but nq failed for now |
<base> | exactly |
<ItalianSharp> | niha, i am sure bush gives clear instructions to his broker to short the market as soon as opens his mouth |
<eminitrader> | nq near lows ...ym es near highs :) | 10:39 |
| looks like they r wait to decide on the leader today... | 10:40 |
<jperl> | ER2 VWAP now equals PVP 853.80.... |
| I stop trading when that happens |
<ItalianSharp> | yeah...I am sitting on the sidelines until NQ makes a clear move |
<eminitrader> | u read my mind IS |
<ItalianSharp> | right now, NQ is in a limbo |
| :) | 10:41 |
<base> | :) ER2 as well | 10:47 |
<Awash> | ES starting to advance higher | 10:52 |
| watching 1542.50 area 7-9 gap close |
<jperl> | ER2 VWAP still sitting on PVP | 10:53 |
| expect more oscillations |
<Awash> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1542.25 --> + 2.25 | 10:54 |
<jperl> | trades this morning.... | 10:55 |
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<Awash> | exit stop raised ES @ 1540.25 |
<eminitrader> | thats riggt in the supp area A | 10:58 |
| 39-50-41 |
<Awash> | E, my stop is right in support area? | 10:59 |
<eminitrader> | as per my read ...looking for an entry in this area |
<Awash> | k | 11:00 |
<eminitrader> | but dont let that change ur plan ...can always re-enter u know |
<Awash> | yes |
<eminitrader> | for all we know mrkt may not even get there |
<Awash> | exactly, so far trend is still advancing | 11:01 |
| you were just long there, can I ask what made you exit? |
<eminitrader> | no follow thru on the NQ ....and right in the res area.... |
<base> | Is Bush done yet? |
<Awash> | base, he's still trying to make his point about the war | 11:02 |
<eminitrader> | but that sometimes leads to what we call creepy uptrend |
<Awash> | yep |
<base> | Awash: Thanks :) |
<jperl> | ER2 peak volume now 854.50, VWAP 853.79 | 11:03 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1541 | 11:05 |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1542.25 --> + 1.25 | 11:17 |
<szubaark> | slow, controlled upcreep | 11:20 |
<ItalianSharp> | szu, i've been missing your "slow controlled upcreep" definition...it's been a while since you typed that...:) | 11:21 |
<eminitrader> | looks like it szu |
| be back ...stop @ b/e | 11:23 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1541 | 11:24 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 854.00 -> small size | 11:30 |
<Brutus> | Dax up 2% went parabolic into the close |
<PapaJon> | bush just finished |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 855.20 --> + 1.2 | 11:33 |
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<Awash> | Exited all ES Long @ 1543.50 --> + 3.5 | 11:35 |
<ItalianSharp> | YM hit all-time highs by 1 tick |
<jperl> | Russell not following | 11:36 |
| interesting |
<asuni12> | 27 high | 11:37 |
<eminitrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1541 --> 0 | 11:38 |
| :(( |
| late post |
<Awash> | trend still bullish, one 50% Pullback early on, remaining pullbacks are tight, breakouts are strong confirmed by solid volume | 11:44 |
<ItalianSharp> | today looks like a typical november day | 11:51 |
| no overanalysis, just buy every dip and collect the cash | 11:52 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 854.8 | 11:53 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 854.40 --> + 0.4 |
<pdays> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 854.2 --> + 0.6 | 11:56 |
<jperl> | ER2 StdDEv a mere 10 ticks for the day.... | 12:33 |
| tough to trade that....good for scalpers |
<eminitrader> | see u later guys..in a couple of hrs ...have a doc appiontment | 12:39 |
<ItalianSharp> | good luck emini | 12:42 |
| By the way, today we have treasury budget at 2pm...last time this report produced some decent volatility |
<RussellDaytrade> | yeah, good luck, and remember, you are no longer young enuf to be given the 'turn your head left and couch' checkup...unless of course its a lady doc | 12:43 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 856.00 -> small size | 12:50 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 856.50 --> + 0.5 | 12:53 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 857.10 -> small size | 13:34 |
| :( | 13:36 |
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<NihabaAshi> | I just saw my error in this trade...looking to dump it. |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 857.30 --> - 0.2 | 13:40 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 857.30 |
| Long ER2 @ 857.50 -> Add |
| Looks like the volatility can't maintain itself :( | 13:44 |
<szubaark> | Looks exhausted |
<NihabaAshi> | szu...we know that's tough thing about these creeper uptrends... | 13:45 |
| They always look exhausted. |
<szubaark> | "look" is right. | 13:46 |
<jperl> | ER2 doing a slow creep up the 2nd StdDev of VWAP... |
| I hate this kind of market |
<Awash> | jperl, why? |
<NihabaAshi> | It's so sluggish even though its going up... |
| Can't do any decent size in the price movement. | 13:47 |
<jperl> | too many small oscillations |
<szubaark> | very tight | 13:48 |
| 2pm TREASURY BUDGET COMING up | 13:51 |
<ItalianSharp> | i think the most difficult thing about creeping uptrends is that everyone talks about, everyone knows what they look like, but very few have the balls to play them the right way...in all honesty, creeping uptrends could be the easiest plays...just buy the dips and wait for a new high...as simple as that...when you are wrong, you'll know it |
| the tough part is that most of traders wait for a decent retracement ----> better prices to buy the dips... |
| this is why they are called creeping...they just never retrace |
<szubaark> | Italian, they play a lot of psychological mind games on you.. Plus creepers dont happen often so we forget about them | 13:52 |
<jperl> | Well they do retrace IS...it's just that the retraces are small |
<ItalianSharp> | exactly szu...but a couple of hrs ago you recognized the creeping slow controlled upmove and had you gotten long back then, by now you'd be nicely in teh green | 13:53 |
| jperl, correct |
<szubaark> | it took me a while to catch its a creeper, think Niha mentioned it first |
<ItalianSharp> | retracements are not enough to adventure into a long trade...basically, you have to deal with teh fact that you buy near the highs...that's the only way to catch them...unless you go long at the open with the bases loaded | 13:54 |
| CNBC isnt even mentioning Treasury Budget...WTF? | 14:02 |
<NihabaAshi> | Weird huh. |
| That usually is a big market mover. |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 856.20 --> - 1.1 | 14:03 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 856.20 |
| reversed into a large position | 14:04 |
<ItalianSharp> | [14:06:08] <iNews> 14:06ET BC-FEDERAL-BUDGET Federal Deficit Down, June Posts Surplus [ AP » http://w3t.org/u/43rc ] | 14:06 |
<NihabaAshi> | This volatility is very odd...has been all week :( | 14:08 |
| I think I'm officially going to say that the "summer trading" has begun that's typically this type of volatility we've seen all week. | 14:09 |
| ER2 looks only phased a "little bit" by the Treasury Budget report. | 14:10 |
| I'm looking to dump my position. |
<pat255> | later guys back to office ty all | 14:12 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 855.90 --> + 1.9 | 14:14 |
| Ooops | 14:15 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 856.90 --> - 0.7 |
| I see the problem... | 14:16 |
| The script is giving the wrong math for 855.90 |
| It's +0.3 and not +1.9 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 855.40 -> small size | 14:17 |
<RussellDaytrade> | the hot-air balloon was overly gassed up this am, and rose rapidly and to the upper stratoshere, when the tethers were cut...now experiencing a case of vertigo, afraid to look down, it's such a long way | 14:18 |
<NihabaAshi> | increased my size on the short in the creeper uptrend from 1 contract to 2 contracts. |
| Still feels like I'm counter-trend trading on the Shorts. | 14:19 |
| Looking to add to make this a large position | 14:20 |
<Awash> | Long ES @ 1544.75 | 14:21 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 855.50 -> Add |
| oh oh... | 14:24 |
| ER2 volatility dropping fast. | 14:25 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon |
| Shorts ER2 @ 856.00 -> Add | 14:27 |
| large size now |
| Volatility dropping again. | 14:33 |
| If this starts to move again against me...I won't let it hit my stop. | 14:34 |
<Awash> | Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 1546.75 --> + 2 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 856.30 --> - 0.3 | 14:41 |
| Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 856.40 --> - 1 | 14:42 |
| Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 856.60 --> - 1.2 |
| That knocks me down to +19 ticks for the day :( | 14:43 |
| Volatility declining again... | 14:47 |
| A good volatility spike still hasn't shown its face this afternoon. |
<Awash> | Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 1547.75 --> + 3 | 14:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 856.30 -> small size | 14:49 |
| 2 contracts only |
| Can't really afford to put on size again because if I'm wrong... |
| Not much time remaining in the trading day to recover from. | 14:50 |
| Volatility dropping again | 14:51 |
| trailing stop raised ~ | 14:53 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 856.50 --> + 0.2 | 14:54 |
| Got pick pocketed because I think there's still more upside to this price movment :( | 14:55 |
<Awash> | Exited 1/4 ES Long @ 1548.75 --> + 4 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 856.80 -> small size | 14:56 |
<Brutus> | Very nice trade A |
<NihabaAshi> | 2 contracts only |
<Awash> | thanks, had to wait 3 hours for a pullback | 14:57 |
| eyes are burned from watching the chart |
| holding 1 more | 14:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 857.20 --> + 0.4 | 14:59 |
| wanted 3 ticks but got 4 ticks | 15:00 |
<werner> | gn all | 15:01 |
<Fleneer> | Who's short? | 15:15 |
<Awash> | Exited all ES Long @ 1550.50 --> + 5.75 |
<RussellDaytrade> | I am |
<Awash> | done for today |
<Fleneer> | me too. Wanting to short but this is a monster. | 15:16 |
| best put down the mouse and step away from the keyboard. | 15:17 |
<RussellDaytrade> | put yer hands up and step away fron the keyboard |
<Fleneer> | modest gain for today and would rather quit early than risk it. | 15:18 |
<ItalianSharp> | [15:16:01] <RussellDaytrade> I am | 15:28 |
| [15:16:04] <Awash> done for today |
| this was funny...reading the 2 messages together it looked like RD and Awash were trying to make a sentence together |
<RussellDaytrade> | look at his thing still gathering steam, wow | 15:29 |
<Awash> | :) | 15:30 |
<RussellDaytrade> | shall we make a sentence together A? Let me begin ... I am | 15:31 |
<ItalianSharp> | lol |
<RussellDaytrade> | adding |
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<Awash> | ....I am proud of my trading after yesterday's |
<RussellDaytrade> | short position |
<ItalianSharp> | wow, YM might be making a run to 14000 by day end at this pace |
<Awash> | taking off for the day | 15:34 |
| good night all |
<RussellDaytrade> | fkem, fading 860 |
| trend days still challenging for me, I do much better rangebounders | 15:35 |
<Fleneer> | Had a Columbus moment. +0.50 jumpped on the mmoving train long 53.75 for 54.25 | 15:36 |
| 1555 monster still breathing. | 15:37 |
<ItalianSharp> | I sure as hell wont short this thing as long as it keeps making new record highs |
<Fleneer> | just want to scalp a little payday. | 15:38 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 860.20 -> small size | 15:39 |
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<ItalianSharp> | today must have been one of the biggest gainers in a long while | 15:41 |
| dow up over 250 pts |
| [15:32:36] <ItalianSharp> wow, YM might be making a run to 14000 by day end at this pace | 15:42 |
| i am starting to believe my statement has a chance to become real, although i was joking | 15:43 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 860.60 --> + 0.4 | 15:44 |
| Long ER2 @ 859.90 -> small size | 15:57 |
| 1 contract only |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 861.00 --> + 1.1 | 15:59 |
| Not much for profits today considering I couldn't do size earlier in the trading day when I had the data problems. | 16:00 |
<RussellDaytrade> | welcome tp parabolimania'sville |
<NihabaAshi> | Yet, another profitable day :) |
| Glad my last trade was able to catch a WRB pt1 level. |
| Thus, ended my trading day the way I like to end them. | 16:01 |
<RussellDaytrade> | that last late day drop made me pft again in one account, and just as importantly, I read it correctly | 16:19 |
* sep34_ | is now known as sep34_away | 16:22 |
<NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all tomorrow. | 16:25 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Thu Jul 12 16:27:58 2007 | 16:27 |
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