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#FuturesTrades July 3rd Thursday 2008 Trade Log

Russell 2000 Emini ER2 Futures

Today	Month	Year
+28.20	+72.40	+1959.00
$2,820	$7,240	$195,900

Eurex DAX

0335am - 0336am est

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Supply/Demand Change of the Day

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Session Start: Thu Jul 03 09:04:01 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades

* Now talking in #futurestrades 09:04

<@X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm

<tzar> gm NihabaAshi

NihabaAshi can i pm you?

<pat255> gm N

<szubaark> hi pat@office?

<+pat255> yes ...so no trading ..or v little 09:05

<+szubaark> :(

<rickf> exited es 1273.75 +2 paper (late) 09:06

<+rickf> triple-tasking here today

<+szubaark> Minor Resistance area here

<futurible> gm all 09:08

<@NihabaAshi> tzar...yes 09:09

<+rickf> btw there are some good articles in SFO Mag this month on trader psychology -- I found a few useful nuggets of info myself

<+pat255> sfo?

<+rickf> securities and futures online (i think) - sfomag.com 09:10

<+pat255> ty

<+rickf> a freebie mag

<+szubaark> most of those articles in magazines are worthless.. all Indicator/hypothetical result crap 09:13

<+rickf> oh i ignore those 09:16

some of the articles are pretty good though

but all those backtesting strategies and one-off trades from 2 months ago....bleah :( 09:17

long es 1272 paper 09:21

* +subq market profile charts for today --- http://www.charthub.com/chart/search/mpc hart

<anglo> ty subq 09:22

<+rickf> exit es 1273 paper +1 09:25

<ItalianSharp> morning all 09:27

<+rickf> gm 09:28

<Trader> gm

<ripsboy> gm all...

<Mauro> gm 09:29

<drt> gm, happy the 4th..

<Andy> gm all 09:30

<+rickf> short es 69 paper 09:39

<+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 1269 «« paper »»

<+rickf> exit 1/2 es 67 +2 paper 09:40

h4

<+szubaark> exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1269 «« paper »»

<+rickf> stop at b/e

lol

i think szu is looking over my shoulder

<+szubaark> no kidding

<@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 669.00 -> medium size 09:42

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1267 --> + 2 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> geeesh

intuition and 4 contracts only

<+rickf> exit es remainder 66.25 +2.75 paper 09:43

short es 66.75 paper 09:44

<@NihabaAshi> wow 09:45

Who pulled the plug ?

<+rickf> exit 1/2 es 63.75 +3 paper

h3

er h4

<+szubaark> Buys ES @ 1261.25 «« paper »» 09:46

<@NihabaAshi> Covered 3/4 ER2 Short @ 664.30 --> + 4.7

<+rickf> exit 1/2 es 60.75 +6 paper

h2

<Pepe> very nice Niha 09:47

<+Mauro> yeah. very good timing Niha 09:48

<+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 1261.25 --> 0 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Lucky trade considering I don't know why it's continuing to drop

<+Mauro> more sellers than buyers 09:49

<@NihabaAshi> :)

<+rickf> exit es remainder 56.50 + 10.5 paper

<Bambam-77> exactly

<@NihabaAshi> News media currently not reacting nor commenting upon the decline :(

referencing to Bloomberg, CNBC and breaking news sources 09:50

<+ItalianSharp> damn...tradestation stalled again

<+rickf> short es 1258.25 paper

<+ItalianSharp> very reliable under high volatility i must say

<lumenPharmer> yep pos TS

<+ItalianSharp> it's been 3rd time this week 09:51

seriously, all these folks at tradestation should be anal probed

<+szubaark> lol

<+lumenPharmer> with a large flag pole ;)

<+ItalianSharp> lol 09:52

<jsbach> anyone have any speculation on next ES support?

<+lumenPharmer> hehee

<+rickf> yet they advertise EVERYWHERE as "the" thing to trade with

<+ItalianSharp> well, i will bet the house that eminis will bounce when they touch 0 09:53

:)

<+rickf> exit 1/2 es 57.25 +2 paper

h4

<+ItalianSharp> you TS users still stalled with data? 09:54

<+Mauro> me too

<+ItalianSharp> totally unacceptable

especially on NFP day

with a pending report at 1000

<+rickf> exit es remainder 58 +1.25 paper (orig was short @ 59.25 not 58.25)

<+ItalianSharp> what kinda professionality is this?

<+szubaark> nice rick

<@NihabaAshi> I was complaining to myself about missing a great Short entry around 0933am est (670.80)

<+rickf> thx szu 09:55

great morning on the es

<@NihabaAshi> Then I decided to "chase the price" and got short @ 669.00

<werner> ts down here IS

<+ItalianSharp> damn...tradestation still down 09:57

<@NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 663.50 --> + 5.5

<+ItalianSharp> this is a long stall

<+lumenPharmer> i'm back up but with bad data 09:58

nope back down

going again 10:00

<+ItalianSharp> down again

<+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 1257.25 «« paper »»

<+lumenPharmer> yup lol

<@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 662.50 -> small size

intuition - 3 only 10:01

<+jsbach> bad service sector data

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1254.75 --> + 2.5 «« paper »» 10:02

taking a break, this is too fast for me 10:03

<+lumenPharmer> as the russ tanks so does ICE, not giving me confidence in the switch over

<@NihabaAshi> Covered 2/3 ER2 Short @ 659.50 --> + 3

<+szubaark> Nice Niha.

<+lumenPharmer> nice niha

<+szubaark> Good Volatility so far. 10:04

<@NihabaAshi> Psychotic price action...

<+lumenPharmer> lets not rub it in now ;)

<@NihabaAshi> Crazy considering I was expecting low volatility trading conditions all week

<+lumenPharmer> TS u suck ;( 10:05

<+szubaark> 8:30 Unemplyment numbers

<+silo> you have no data ?

my tradestation works fine

<+rickf> my es data is cutting in and out via open ecry

<+silo> it might just be a reginal thing

<+rickf> past 5 mins or so

<+lumenPharmer> ts still down for me

<+rickf> restart didnt help

<+Mauro> TS alive here

<@NihabaAshi> Anybody in here having Broker problems during this price drop...

<+silo> maye the server for your region is down 10:06

nope

<+rickf> niha - yes

<+silo> my tradestation works fine

<+szubaark> fine here

<@NihabaAshi> Please speak up so that we all know what brokers are having difficulty

<ts> ok here

<+lumenPharmer> ts down in CA

<+szubaark> IB=Fine

<+rickf> open ecry, es data choppy here in DC

<@NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 661.90 --> + 0.6

Yeah...please state where you are located at if having problems 10:07

Thanks rickf

<+rickf> np

<kantor> gm all 10:08

<@NihabaAshi> I can't get data on any interval higher than 5min intervals via QCharts and Futuresource...

<KN-SR> Shorts ES @ 1259.00

<@NihabaAshi> Only have data on the 1min, 2min, 3min, 4min and 5min charts

<+lumenPharmer> ok 3rd restart and we are ok on TS now, so far

<@NihabaAshi> I'm located north of Montreal

<+KN-SR> 60.25 stop

<+rickf> my er2 is frozen at 661.5 10:09

<+Mauro> Hey lumenPharmer is TICK data running in your TS

<+ItalianSharp> gotta be a major network priblem then

<+rickf> right at 10AM

<@NihabaAshi> I had a brief data outage (no data) between 0930am - 0932am est

<+silo> boston, data works fine here

<+rickf> es seems ok now

<+lumenPharmer> no mauro 10:10

<+Mauro> thanks lumen

<+lumenPharmer> np

<+drt> es and ib ok in fl

<@NihabaAshi> All charts and intervals working OK now for me. 10:11

<+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 1257 «« paper »»

<+rickf> scratch that, my es data still flaky

<+KN-SR> Covered 3/4 ES Short @ 1256.50 --> + 2.5

<+lumenPharmer> do not trust TS with any sort of size, imo 10:12

<+ItalianSharp> this gotta be the worst data issue i've seen in 2 years 10:13

<+lumenPharmer> that felt like "we gona tank so fry the data", "they" are out there working ;) 10:14

<+rickf> folks on ET complaining about TS this morning too

<+ItalianSharp> i am done for the day 10:16

f..k tradestation

enough is enough

i wont be able to trust them again today anyways

<+lumenPharmer> yep

we close in 45 min, no? 10:17

<+rickf> es data back on openecry -- er2 looks like it's back but my dom data is not all there

<+KN-SR> Shorts ES @ 1260.25

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1260 --> - 3 «« paper »»

<+rickf> 60.25?

<+ItalianSharp> i think we close in 1hr and 45mins 10:18

<+rickf> i show 52.50

<+szubaark> Shorts ES @ 1260 «« paper »»

<+ItalianSharp> actually, at 1pm

<+rickf> what is the es right now?

<+szubaark> 1260

<+rickf> ok i am not trading

<+KN-SR> s.l .75

<+lumenPharmer> got ya 11:00 my time

<+rickf> wow - i have a 6pt divergence in es price between primary and backup broker 10:19

hrm. the paper trader for OEC has the divergence, but the live platform data matched my backup broker 10:21

very strange

<@NihabaAshi> They are fighting good to get the price back up. 10:22

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1264 --> - 4 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> If it retraces all the way back to the Opening price level...

A big WOW.

<+szubaark> Buys ES @ 1264 «« paper »»

<robert> OEC has been having sim data prob for about a week - they're aware of it..

<+szubaark> Shorts not working 10:23

<+rickf> robert - really? first i heard about it, and first i noticed it was today

<+lumenPharmer> Internals of ISM nonmanufacturing report are weak as well...as new orders plunged to 48.6 from 53.6; deliveries slipped to 50.5 from 51.0; employment got clobbered to 43.8 from 48.7; and prices paid rocketed to 84.5 from 77.0. 10:24

<+robert> yes, I use it for additional charts and practice entries, been throwning me off..

* Looking up Mauro user info...

<+lumenPharmer> this is why we tanked

* Looking up Trader user info...

up stomper user info...

<@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 666.70 -> small size 10:25

2 only

<+szubaark> this thing could go up just as fast as it came down LOL 10:26

<@NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 666.70 --> 0 10:28

Got too bouncy for me

Long ER2 @ 667.50 -> small size 10:29

NQ has made it back to its Opening price...Wow. 10:30

<+szubaark> now ES needs to catch up 10:31

<@NihabaAshi> Same with YM

Exited ER2 Long @ 667.60 --> + 0.1

:(

Shorts ER2 @ 667.80 -> small size 10:34

1 only

<+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 1265.75 --> + 1.75 «« paper »»

Shorts ES @ 1265.75 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Due to the pattern of difficulty involving my last 2 trades... 10:35

I've dropped my positin size down to 1 contract until price action becomes less Pin Ball Machine like

Natural GAS Report just released 10:36

Covered ER2 Short @ 667.70 --> + 0.1

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1267.75 --> - 2 «« paper »» 10:37

:((

Buys ES @ 1267.75 «« paper »»

]looking for new highs

<@NihabaAshi> 669.60 gets ER2 back within another area for me to take trades within 10:38

level not showing anything to bit on 10:39

Long ER2 @ 669.90 -> small size 10:40

3 only 10:41

nothing 10:42

Exited ER2 Long @ 668.90 --> - 1

<pdays> Shorts ER2 @ 670.0

<@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 668.60 -> small size 10:43

<+pdays> Covered all ER2 Short @ 669.0 --> + 1

<+silo> Shorts ER2 @ 668.50 -> medium size «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 669.40 --> - 0.8 10:49

<@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission. More info at www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm

<@NihabaAshi> ooops

<+szubaark> more Pinball type Price Action

<@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 668.40 --> + 0.2

<+silo> Covered all ER2 Short @ 669.10 --> - 0.6 «« paper »» 10:50

<@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 669.60 -> small size 10:51

<+silo> Long ER2 @ 670 -> large size «« paper »» 10:52

<@NihabaAshi> 3 only

Should be obvious now where the resistance area is at :) 10:53

Exited ER2 Long @ 668.70 --> - 0.9 10:54

<+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 1268 --> + 0.25 «« paper »»

Shorts ES @ 1268 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 668.60 -> small size 10:56

<+silo> Exited all ER2 Long @ 668.30 --> - 1.7 «« paper »»

<+szubaark> lots of zig-zagging up here :(

<@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 669.40 --> - 0.8 10:59

<+KN-SR> Shorts ES @ 1267.50 11:00

<@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 668.50 -> small size

<+KN-SR> s.l 1 11:01

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1269 --> - 1 «« paper »»

:((

Buys ES @ 1269 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Back at that resistance area 11:02

Watching more carefully this time

Exited ER2 Long @ 670.40 --> + 1.9 11:04

<+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 1267 --> - 2 «« paper »»

12geez

Shorts ES @ 1267 «« paper »» 11:05

starting to feel like a Holiday now LOL

<@NihabaAshi> szu...it's a tight trading range up here...bouncing back n forth (top to bottom to top to bottom).

May as well play the range :) 11:06

Short the top and buy the bottom

<+szubaark> yeah.. i just want it to break in my direction

Covered all Short ES at 1270 --> - 3 «« paper »» 11:07

Buys ES @ 1270 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Higher lows too...

<+szubaark> geez, finally broke.. took 3 good whacks though :(

<+silo> Long ER2 @ 671 «« paper »» 11:08

<@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 671.00 -> small size

tight stop due to the higher lows 11:09

<+szubaark> yersturday we had a choppy range at open, now in the middle :( hate these chop ranges 11:10

<@NihabaAshi> trade no longer look worth while 11:11

Covered ER2 Short @ 670.30 --> + 0.7 11:14

<+szubaark> just creeping higher now

<@NihabaAshi> Pin Ball Machine has returned :(

Shorts ER2 @ 670.00 -> small size 11:15

2 only

<+robert> possible ES up target 1277 11:16

<gary> index futures close today at 1:15 est 11:17

<+jsbach> gary, what about dax? 11:18

<+gary> sorry, don't know about dax

<+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 1270 --> 0 «« paper »»

Shorts ES @ 1270 «« paper »»

<+jsbach> k

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<@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 669.80 --> + 0.2

crazy

I'm sideline now...price action just bouncing around (noise) 11:19

<+silo> Exited all ER2 Long @ 669.60 --> - 1.4 «« paper »» 11:20

<+szubaark> Covered all Short ES at 1270 --> 0 «« paper »» 11:28

<+silo> Long ER2 @ 671 «« paper »» 11:29

<@NihabaAshi> Is it time now for the patriotic July 4 push upwards ??? 11:30

:)

<+szubaark> Buys ES @ 1272.75 «« paper »»

<@NihabaAshi> Or was the bounce of the lows it ???

<+pat255> lol looks like

<@NihabaAshi> :)

<+szubaark> now that everyone got shaken out to death, they will make their move :(( 11:31

<@NihabaAshi> :)

I'm now looking for a breakout of this crazy range we've seen the past 30 mins or so 11:32

Breakout up or down but I'm leaning upwards

<+Trader> when does the market close today? 11:33

<@NihabaAshi> http://www.cmegroup.com/tools-informatio n/holiday-calendar/index.html 11:35

Change the Dr. Martin day to Independence Day

That's Chicago time they show 11:36

<+Trader> thanks 11:37

<+rickf> ok guys, done for the week -- off to run errands and hit the food stores to get my Jul4 munchies before the after-work hordes show up :) 11:47

good trading all -- see ya on Monday!

<@NihabaAshi> Starting to look like all th fun is gone... 11:50

Vacationers heading out the exchange door to beat rush hour traffic.

:)

<+pat255> yup ... 11:51

<+szubaark> OR watch this thing Rocket to the upside before close LOL

* codehead_afk is now known as codehead 11:53

<@NihabaAshi> Shorts ER2 @ 666.40 -> small size 12:05

<+szubaark> This is some Weird Price Action 12:08

<@NihabaAshi> Covered ER2 Short @ 666.10 --> + 0.3

<+szubaark> Exited all Long ES at 1263.50 --> - 9.25 «« paper »» 12:12

<+codehead> amazing ES action: it bounced to the openeing high exactly, which was also .500 retracement fromt he late top yesterday; then it dumped 10 points to get within a tick of .500 retracement of today's entire range 12:17

here's a friend's chart, before it retapped the opening high:

http://charts.dacharts.com/2008-06-21/12 .png 12:18

now bouncing off the .500 retracement

<+szubaark> dont forget the 2 1/2 hour Viscious Chop Zone at the Highs 12:21

<@NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 665.30 -> small size 12:38

2 only and last trade of the day

:( 12:40

<+tzar> how come your done early today NihabaAshi

<@NihabaAshi> Market closes early...I have no choice :) 12:41

Exited ER2 Long @ 665.50 --> + 0.2 12:43

:(

<+tzar> why today market closes early?

<@NihabaAshi> tzar...what country you live in ??? 12:44

<+tzar> canada

lol

canada day already passed

and tomorrows is 4th of july 12:45

today is 3rd

<@NihabaAshi> You should keep a exchange calendar of your trading instrument and market down in your spreadsheet the days the market closes

I posted a link earlier today with a holiday calendar 12:46

Save it in your browser for future reference...

Why ???

You don't want to be sitting in a position and suddenly the market closes early on you... 12:47

Thus, you have a open position going into a holiday.

<+tzar> sorry i was away for the morning just got back

<@NihabaAshi> Happens a lot with traders that don't follow the market holiday schedule

http://www.cmegroup.com/tools-informatio n/holiday-calendar/index.html 12:48

<+tzar> thanks

<@NihabaAshi> July 4th holiday and a few other U.S. Holidays the market will be closed on the holiday along with closing EARLY the trading day before the holiday

<@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission. More info at www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm

<+Bambam-77> what time is mrkt closed it it 1 or 1:30

<Nesi> have a great holidays guys

<+Nesi> be safe all :) 13:10

<+ripsboy> Have a happy and safe holiday all... 13:14

<+werner> nice wk all 13:19

<peterpanboy> Hello to everyone 13:20

<+peterpanboy> I wanna only wish a nice 4 july to all 13:21

<@NihabaAshi> Thanks peter 13:34

Take care all and have a safe July 4th...too many accidents happen on that day. 13:35

<+peterpanboy> yes take care and when tired rest do not drive... 13:40

<+peterpanboy> enjoy 4 july all see ya next week 14:30

bye

<nqlove> hi 14:38

<+nqlove> folks how r u

<+nqlove> longt timesince i was here

<@X> #FuturesTrades Info -> No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade because it provides critical information they can't get from broker statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not recommended without their permission. More info at www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm 14:58

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