June 28th Wednesday 2006 Trade Log
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The key to today's trading session was position size management.
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Commentary by M.A. Perry (a.k.a. NihabaAshi)
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Session Start: Wed Jun 28 09:28:31 2006Session Ident: #futurestrades * Now talking in #futurestrades 09:28 <X> [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm <pat255> gm niha code emini <NihabaAshi> Hi pat255 and all. <PapaJon> gm all 09:31 <NihabaAshi> Yestserday was all about interest rate fears via the pending FOMC announcement on Thursday... <pat255> When is the Fed announcement...tomorrow 2:15 EDT? <NihabaAshi> Should be an interesting trading day today. <eminitrader> morn szu, pj, pat255, niha,patternz, substanz ....... 09:32 <PapaJon> hehe.. you missed a few et.... gm <eminitrader> the least i can do for the ones who post ... 09:33 <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 692.50 -> small size <eminitrader> morn pj:) 09:34 <les> Shorts ER2 @ 692.1 «« paper »» <eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1253.25 09:36 <les> Covered all ER2 Short @ 693 --> - 0.9 «« paper »» <aym> Short ER2 @ 693.7 risk 2 09:38 <NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 692.70 --> + 0.2 Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 692.70 :( <aym> Cover er2 @ 691.6 09:39 Sponsor: As traders we must treat our trading like a business if we are to succeed as traders and as a business. Therefore, waiting till the last few weeks March to prepare for April's taxes is not good for your trading and could put extra stress on your trading during tax month or the months that follow if your one of those traders that filed an extension.. Therefore, its best to be on top of your taxes throughout the year and Traders Accounting is a great resource for such especially if you want to prevent penalties or an audit several years from now. <NihabaAshi> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 691.50 --> + 1.2 09:40 I was 2 ticks away from a WRB profit target in that prior Long position :( <les> Shorts ER2 @ 691.1 «« paper »» 09:41 <eminitrader> Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1251.25 --> + 2 <NihabaAshi> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 690.60 --> + 2.1 <les> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 690.6 --> + 0.5 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> #FuturesTrades Purpose -> No gurus here, no signal calling by a head trader and no intentions to educate. 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Do not mimic (shadow) the trades by others without their consent as stated at http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTra desChatRoom.htm 09:42 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 692.60 09:43 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 09:44 <szubaark> Shorts YM @ 11008 09:45 <les> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 698.7 --> - 7.6 «« paper »» Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 689.7 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> Oil Index lost its steam this morning around 0938am est...will continue to hold ER2 remainder because of such. <les> exit stop lowered ER2 @ 690.6 «« paper »» <NihabaAshi> exit stop lowered ER2 @ 692.00 09:47 <les> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 690.1 --> + 1 «« paper »» <jperl> Shorts ER2 @ 690.40 09:49 <eminitrader> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1250.25 --> + 3 09:50 <szubaark> nice emini <eminitrader> thx szu ..my only trade for today ..like to max it out <pdays> Shorts ER2 @ 690.6 «« paper »» 09:52 Covered all ER2 Short @ 691.6 --> - 1 «« paper »» 09:53 <NihabaAshi> Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 691.70 --> + 1 * Looking up _68GTO user info... up Arthropod user info... 09:54 up patternz user info... <jperl> Shorts ER2 @ 691.30 -> Add <eminitrader> Covered Remainder ES Short @ 1252.25 --> + 1 09:55 <NihabaAshi> Light Crude Oil CL opens in about 4mins. 09:56 <jperl> Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 690.90 --> + 0.4 <patternz> `b 11070 ym 10:00 <codehead> long YM 11010 <paper> ER 3 min vegas up <patternz> 11007 i mean <jperl> Shorts ER2 @ 692.60 -> Add <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 692.50 -> small size 10:01 <patternz> stop b.e. stop raised to 11017, locks in atleast 10 pts 10:02 <NihabaAshi> Doesn't look like 694 is in the cards so far this morning :( Volatility is going to pick up here soon around 1015am est via the pending 1030am est EIA Petroleum Status Report. 10:04 <patternz> flat +10 10:05 <timing> vn ptz <NihabaAshi> Exited all ER2 Long @ 692.20 --> - 0.3 <szubaark> would like to see them test that 11000..reason im holding my Short 10:06 <patternz> b 11015 10:07 <szubaark> just Chop <jperl> Covered all ER2 Short @ 691.50 --> 0 10:09 <patternz> flat b.e. 10:12 <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 692.50 -> small size 10:14 2 contracts only <patternz> b 11018 10:16 <NihabaAshi> So far...the price action that traverses throught the 692.50 price is completely unwilling to take on the 694 and above price area :( 10:18 <codehead> Ym wedge 10:19 some tough resistance overhead to break thru 10:20 <szubaark> 11000 needs another test 10:21 <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 691.90 -> Add Position now at 3 contracts Interest rates versus Oil Inventories...should get intersting in a few minutes. 10:23 EuroFX EC just dropped. Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 692.10 --> + 0.2 10:24 <patternz> flat b.e. <codehead> 5 mins to oil, ya? 10:25 <szubaark> maybe the Oil report will cause this consolidation breakout <NihabaAshi> Something is going to pop soon with all the info in the air about Interest Rates and Oil Inventories. 10:26 Long ER2 @ 691.40 -> Add 10:28 Position now at 3 contracts <szubaark> Oil blasted to the upside 10:30 <patternz> b 11006 10:31 stop b.e. 10:32 <NihabaAshi> Exited 1/3 ER2 Long @ 691.80 --> + 0.4 <patternz> b 11005 10:33 <NihabaAshi> Long ER2 @ 692.00 -> Add Position now at 3 contracts <patternz> stop b.e. 10:34 stop 11009 stop 11015 10:35 flat +10 <szubaark> NQ,ES keeping me in this YM Short..otherwise My Stops would be getting popped left and right 10:36 <patternz> b 11005 stop b.e. 10:37 Trading Edge: If your an independent trader looking for an edge to help you traverse around obstacles to profitable trading...a method that's well defined, gives you a better understanding of the markets, applicable for day trading, position trading and swing trading with a money back guaranteed policy...click here. Trading Strategies -> These strategies will reveal and explain specific strategies from entry to exit that exploit inefficiencies in the price action of your trading instrument for profits in the following trading instruments: Emini Index Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Index Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Index Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Energy Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, OIH, IWM, QQQQ, SPY) <NihabaAshi> szu...not a lot happening so far today...I'm just keeping it light today. Maybe yesterday price actgion spoiled us :) <szubaark> yersturday was fun 10:38 <patternz> flat reenter 11005 <szubaark> [10:06] <szubaark> would like to see them test that 11000..reason im holding my Short 10:39 maybe thats what this consolidation is all about? <patternz> stop stop 11010 10:40 flat +5 10:41 <NihabaAshi> Exited ER2 Long @ 691.10 --> - 1.4 10:42 Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 691.10 <szubaark> right on deck <NihabaAshi> Reversed into a large position <szubaark> code, how u like the "shamu" and "zrl" galore on CCI? LOL 10:43 <jperl> Problem here is ER2 is sitting on VWAP 691.76 <codehead> pretty choppy <NihabaAshi> -1.40 on 2 contracts and -0.90 on 1 contract of the prior Long position. :( 10:44 <patternz> b 11000 10:47 <szubaark> Niha why were u Bullish? <patternz> tight stop stop b.e. 10:48 <NihabaAshi> I'm bearish...not bullish. <patternz> flat 10:49 <NihabaAshi> I'm only willing to go small size on Longs and/or large size on Shorts. Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 689.40 --> + 2.6 10:50 <patternz> b 10995 <szubaark> they setting this up for a Huge pop up after FOMC announcment LOL 10:51 Covered all YM Short @ 10994 --> + 14 10:52 <NihabaAshi> szu...I always use position size to manage my bias...helps in managing my risk exposure. <szubaark> after that Short..i need a break geez 10:53 <NihabaAshi> 694 was realistic today...came within a tick or two of catching a profit at that price on one particular Long position. ER2 just didn't want anything to do with it :( 10:54 <patternz> nice trade szu 10:55 <NihabaAshi> ER2 trying hard to find some support here. 10:56 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) <szubaark> thanks.. made me sweat a little. watching ES,NQ helped me stay in this sucker. YM too choppy to use Stops. (Unless u want 30+ stops) 10:57 <codehead> dow having trouble getting red so far <szubaark> I just dont have the balls to trade ER,ES,NQ.. too many painful memories <jperl> Shorts ER2 @ 689 10:58 <NihabaAshi> szu...if ER2, ES and NQ gives you bad memories...EuroFX EC will give nightmares :) <patternz> stop b.e. 10:59 <NihabaAshi> EC is tough to trade. <patternz> yes, i trade only ym too - i just a small trader i'm expecting a range day today, so if i'm lucky ym will head back towards today's high 11:00 <szubaark> Yes Euro also. Its amazing how many newbies jump into Euro,ES,NQ,ER.. the results are Brutal. 11:01 <NihabaAshi> It's 11am est and I usually start getting mentally tired...will take a long break here soon. <patternz> flat 11:02 <NihabaAshi> Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 687.80 --> + 3.3 exit stop lowered ER2 @ 691.00 11:03 <patternz> b 10991 11:04 <NihabaAshi> My first investment ever (back in the mid 80s) was a penny stock for 12k... 11:05 I lost it all in one week :( Only time I ever traded a penny stock and the last time :) My first trade in futures...I lost 6k. <jperl> Covered ER2 Short @ 687.50 --> + 1.5 11:06 Sponsor:
Mentally getting away from trading is much harder to do in comparison to physically getting away from trading when its time for some rest and relaxation. Personally, one of my favorite ways to mentally rest is to watch movies I've copy & recorded from the local video store via my Slysoft software that copies any copyright protected dvd's and cd's. <NihabaAshi> I got a mentor after that because I obviously didn't know what the hell I was doing :) <codehead> long ER 687.40 <paper> 1 pt stop <NihabaAshi> Took 3 years to become a breakeven trader (1992)...been doing good since. 11:07 <patternz> flat +10 <codehead> YM 5 min inv ghost 11:08 <NihabaAshi> szu...therefore...just hang in there and stay away from penny stocks :) <patternz> niha - i'm new in room - does your website explain your trading strategy ? 11:09 or is strategy lab not your website ? 11:10 <NihabaAshi> patternz...it gives the basic (no specific details) at http://www.thestrategylab.com/NihabaAshi.htm 11:11 <patternz> k, thks 11:12 <NihabaAshi> In a nutshell...WRBs, supply/demand and volatility. 11:13 <patternz> b 10994 <NihabaAshi> Oil Indices giving ER2 some support :( 11:15 <jperl> Shorts ER2 @ 687.90 Shorts ER2 @ 687.90 <NihabaAshi> If Oil losses a little steam...I may get lucky and catch another WRB profit target. 11:16 Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 686.50 --> + 4.6 11:17 <jperl> Covered ER2 Short @ 686.80 --> + 1.1 <pat255> vn both of u 11:18 <szubaark> Nice Niha,jp <jperl> tx <NihabaAshi> :) Trade Posting Script -> The color posted trades you see in here is available for free to any registered member of #FuturesTrades. 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Also, as a member you will be able to post messages at our discussion forum @ http://p207.ezboard.com/bthestrategylab 11:37 <pat255> later guys ...back to office ty 11:57 <patternz> flata b.e. 11:59 flat b.e. <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 12:05 <NihabaAshi> Reminder -> Today's #FuturesTrades chat room trade log with trading tip/market insight are posted @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm (logs will be updated tonight by 9pm est to current) 12:06 * NihabaAshi is now known as NihabaAshi_away 12:09 <codehead> my only ER trade today, entered 4 ticks off the low, but stopped out +0.30 :-/ 12:23 <jperl> ER2 at VWAP 689.30 12:25 <szubaark> welcome back emini 12:49 <eminitrader> hi szu 12:51 <szubaark> emini.. that Short u had was nice for +3 12:55 [09:50] <eminitrader> Covered 1/3 ES Short @ 1250.25 --> + 3 <eminitrader> yes szu got 1/2 ( 5 ) @ 2pts, 3 @ 2 pts and 2 @ 1pt 12:59 oops actualy 3 @ 3 pts 13:00 <szubaark> was that previous day High resistance u Shorted? <eminitrader> had a sell @ 50.75 and got stopped out @ 51.75 ( 5 ) was a pending order that i for got about and paid the penalty :( 13:01 yes plus it was @ a retracement level 13:02 38% retrace 13:03 from yes low <szubaark> Shorts YM @ 10990 13:04 <codehead> long YM 10991 <paper> 13:10 5 tick stop 13:12 signal might roll over here exit half YM +8 <paper> stop on remainder moved to b/e 13:17 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) <szubaark> yeah my Short not looking good <codehead> move stop up to 10996 (+5) <paper> 13:19 <szubaark> hope its a fakeout 13:20 <codehead> my signal was the little YM 3 min inv ghost 13:21 <szubaark> i dont watch anything below 5min chart testing previous uptrendline 13:22 THIS here should be my entry for Short (11003) 13:23 <codehead> low volume 13:24 <timing> 010 some r 13:26 <codehead> mkt run out of sellers? no buyers ready to step up 13:27 ? <timing> buy/sell vol even <codehead> yeah--both light <timing> yes 13:28 <szubaark> Overall trend is down..sellers in control 13:29 <codehead> stopped out +5 on remainder <paper> <szubaark> I jumped my Short by 10 Points! geez got to be more patient <codehead> trinq .75, near lows 13:30 <szubaark> code that was a nice scalp u did 13:31 we should be testing lows again shortly <codehead> i did want to take it for real, but the utter lack of volume in the mkt at the time kept me from it seems to be low-volume chop right now 13:32 <szubaark> yeah..its still gonna move where they want it to move nice Buyer fakeout 13:33 <codehead> long YM 10986 <paper> 13:35 no signal :-/ <szubaark> then why u take it? 13:36 heheh.. i do that sometimes too <codehead> exit YM +1 <paper> took it to keep myself from thinking about real trades, prolly <szubaark> code..worst can happen is you blow your account.. thats the only way u'll find out where u stand 13:37 <codehead> long ER 686.70 <paper> seems like low volume move, just playing 13:38 685.90 stop ER <paper> that 11003 short you mentioned was a good idea--YM was in extremes on low volume move 13:41 <szubaark> i just didnt feel like waiting for more conformation :( 13:42 notice any try to the upside gets slammed <timing> yep 13:44 <szubaark> ohh crap..not another consolidation wedge :( 13:47 <patternz> here's 13:48 <szubaark> seems like we cant make any decent move without consolidating for HOURS and shake everyone <codehead> shoulda stuck with YM--it's a little better than ER 13:51 ER might ZLR down here phew, curling back up--needs to get thru 687.50 13:52 <szubaark> 2pm approcahing.. chicago boys back from "lunch" <codehead> no good patterns on YM, just about any time frame 13:53 cept 30 min zlr for down <patternz> havce triangle pattern that just completed on 5 min chart imo - 11:30 to now 13:55 ahhhh, you're talking cci 13:56 <codehead> yeah, nice triangle ER trying zlr down again 13:58 exit half ER +1.8 <paper> raise stop to b/e 14:01 on remainder <szubaark> nice.. i have no clue now about this price action 14:02 <codehead> raise stop to 687.60 (+1) on remainder <paper> this trade, and the YM one i bailed, just operating on theory that mkt seems to be running out of sellers, maybe some covering ahead of fed 14:03 some stuff is pretty dang cheap these days so i figure on dips at least, to see some buying after price drops stall 14:04 doh--posted this a min ago in the wrong room: 14:19 exit ER +2.90 <paper> time to pay attention to stocks 14:20 russell cash at resistance 14:22 <szubaark> Covered all YM Short @ 11015 --> - 25 14:23 :(( Long YM @ 11015 ate -25 points on that Short 14:24 breaking downtrendlines..couldbe nice Pop 14:25 <codehead> russell got thru <szubaark> amazing..didnt even do a double bottom.. just took off 14:26 <codehead> yes, the lack of volume was the key 14:27 <szubaark> Short covering should take this higher <codehead> couldn't muster enough sellers to give it a push down <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 14:29 <codehead> definitely possible to close hod on this kind of reversal... 14:32 <szubaark> we've been selling off for 3 days..short covering should take this to 10975 Cash at least 14:38 Exited all YM Long @ 11038 --> + 23 14:44 made up for the -25 loser :(( <codehead> nice wish i had guts to take those trades for real--kinda thought mkt might do this 14:45 <szubaark> FOMC leak? LOL <codehead> lol 14:46 <PapaJon> yah.. someone flew a minature microphone that looks like a mosquito into the fomc meeting <szubaark> that last Short i took was Stupid.. i guess thats why im still trading YM :) lol PAPA! <PapaJon> of course with west nile virus and all.. i imagine it will get smacked as soon as someone sees it 14:47 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... splat <codehead> whew, ER went +8 from my paper entry 14:49 <szubaark> this was expected after they whacked everyone in that consolidation zone 14:51 code..Ghosts forming now.. but i wont Short this <codehead> yeah, noticed 14:52 looking at 15 min chart, YM cci inverted ghost--the right shoulder formation was during that low-volume period 14:55 the head of the ghost down near extremes was the volume washout <szubaark> code.. wehn cci starts hoovering around o line, they doing rope-a-dope 14:56 <codehead> lol 14:57 <szubaark> looking to Buy this pullback 15:01 Sponsor:
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<eminitrader> Shorts ES @ 1255 15:05 <szubaark> Long YM @ 11040 15:11 looking for next leg up 15:14 <PapaJon> Most of you have probably seen this... but its still a good laugh. http://www.veritashomeinspection.com/htm l/papa/fatherhood.html 15:15 <codehead> bond-close signal is bullish and strong, btw 15:16 theory there is go long the closing price for higher sometime tomorrow morning 15:17 <szubaark> crap..pullback deeper then i thought 15:20 <codehead> long YM 11029 <paper> 15:29 <szubaark> nice entry code 15:30 <codehead> thinking we have to move up into close <eminitrader> Covered all ES Short @ 1255 --> 0 <szubaark> yup.. break that 11050 area good 15:31 <codehead> if it was jsut a little lower i would have done it for real just a little closer to pivot 15:32 exit half YM +11 <paper> see if we can get back to 11050 i think something like 11057 is b/o... <szubaark> hehe.. they not gonna be that nice to you that wedge breakout signaled major reversal 15:33 taking too long............. 15:36 <X> #FuturesTrades Info -> Chat room for realtime trade posting by traders of Emini Futures (ER2, ES, NQ, YM), EuroFX Futures (EC), Eurex Derivatives (DAX, ESTX50), Euronext Futures (FTSE100, CAC40), Treasury Futures (ZF, ZN, ZB), NYMEX Futures (CL, NG, HO, QM) and Exchange Traded Funds (DIA, GLD, IWM, OIH, QQQQ, SPY) 15:38 <codehead> a little margin shake here 15:40 dang, this is where i wanted ot buy, but too chicken this late in day 15:42 11025 15:43 <szubaark> i know its getting late in the day 15:46 <codehead> YM should bounce off pivot 15:48 got within 2-3 ticks <szubaark> only 30 minutes left.. they gotta move NOW 15:49 3pm then Blast-ff? 15:54 3pm..right on time 15:59 <codehead> exit YM +15 <paper> could get more after main close if ER squeezes, YM like to follow a bit 16:00 <szubaark> they right on time today exit stop moved to breakeven YM @ 11041 <codehead> nice hold 16:01 i shoulda taken my target entry <szubaark> moving Stop because of the eod games Exited all YM Long @ 11046 --> + 6 16:03 im just too exhausted today another tough frikin trading day * szubaark is now known as szubaark_away <codehead> YM back to hod 11055 16:08 11056 16:09 ER squeezing <NihabaAshi_away> Take care all and see all tomorrow. 16:19 * DisconnectedSession Close: Wed Jun 28 16:22:03 2006 16:22 We are proud to say that our chat room members are from the following geographical areas in the world:
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