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| Session Start: Wed Jun 27 09:30:00 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<Awash> | good morning all |
<szubaark> | gm |
<pat255> | gm .. | 09:31 |
<venedom> | gm | 09:32 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 827.80 -> small size | 09:39 |
| 3 contracts only and I missed a discounted entry around 826.70 |
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<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 827.70 --> - 0.1 |
<eminitrader> | Long ES @ 1496.75 | 09:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 827.40 -> medium size | 09:46 |
<werner> | gm all |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1497.75 --> + 1 | 09:47 |
<NihabaAshi> | :( | 09:48 |
| Chop so far |
<eminitrader> | exit stop raised ES @ 1496.25 |
<NihabaAshi> | Looking to dump this position. |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1498.25 --> + 1.5 | 09:49 |
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<NihabaAshi> | Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 828.40 --> + 1 | 09:50 |
<eminitrader> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1496.75 |
<RussellDaytrade> | S&P cash trades to 1492, I think that means Columbus will again sail the ocean blue |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 829.10 --> + 1.7 | 09:52 |
<eminitrader> | Exited 1/3 ES Long @ 1500.75 --> + 4 |
| holding 1 |
| target 1506.75 limit ..be back later elder son's birthday today ... | 09:56 |
<pat255> | vn em ...have a good one .. |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 830.60 -> small size | 10:08 |
| 2 contracts only | 10:09 |
<jperl> | ER2 1 yr 1st stdDev @ 831.17 | 10:10 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 830.10 --> + 0.5 | 10:11 |
<jperl> | ER2 approaching VWAP 828.35 | 10:14 |
| 10:30 Petroleum status coming up | 10:15 |
| This mornings trades here.... | 10:18 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-27/JP ERL_0121.png |
| ER2 touching 1 yr 1st std dev 831.16 | 10:25 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 831.90 -> medium size | 10:30 |
| Exited 2/3 ER2 Long @ 833.70 --> + 1.8 | 10:32 |
<venedom> | n1 N | 10:33 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm looking to dump my remainders anywhere within the key s/r zone of 834.90 - 837.10 | 10:35 |
<pat255> | niha or someone can post the link to the server other than mimai..have prob sometimes ,,ty |
| had to reboot | 10:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | patt255 go to the #help room to ask them how to change servers...they are the Othernet people that manage the Othernet servers. | 10:37 |
<venedom> | Long ER2 @ 833.70 -> small size | 10:38 |
| tight stop 833.40 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 833.40 --> - 0.3 | 10:39 |
| and now it goes to N target lol | 10:40 |
<pat255> | ty niha ...will check | 10:41 |
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| It is current server's map. | 10:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | The target should act like a magnet because its an area of a key change in supply/demand in yesterday's price action. |
| On the flip side...I don't have a lot of wiggle room because my entry signal into this Long position was missed @ 830.30 | 10:44 |
<pat255> | ty base |
<base> | np |
<jperl> | price is sitting on yesterdays VWAP which is at the peak volume as well... | 10:46 |
| as seen in this chart.... |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-27/JP ERL_0121.png |
| Market has no incentive to do anything.... |
| unless one of you decides otherwise |
<NihabaAshi> | If its going to do anything it needs to do it before it hits my trailing stop :) | 10:47 |
| Exited Remainder ER2 Long @ 832.10 --> + 0.2 | 10:49 |
| Had very little wiggle room to stay in that trade due to my late entry :( | 10:50 |
<RussellDaytrade> | modest but ample gains shorting the zenith, have one short runner | 10:53 |
<pat255> | rd did u S this am? | 11:00 |
| just wonder ...L paid off well this am .. | 11:01 |
<RussellDaytrade> | yes PAt, I shorted the first runup, and covered flat, near 830.4 area, then I shorted again the final rise...it just now hitting my initial targets, I closed the last one at 831.7 about ten minutes ago | 11:02 |
<pat255> | k nice ...was reluctant to S ..that is why i asked.. | 11:03 |
<jperl> | ER2 bounced off 1 year STd DEv 831.17 |
<RussellDaytrade> | slept in, got as late start, missed the buys near 825 area, thats more of my recent profile, buying into troughs, looking for a little (or bigger) bounce...did not bring myself to buying the b.o...not quite there yet. | 11:05 |
| if the larger structure down takes hold, I have targets of 826.5 area and even below | 11:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | Taking an early lunch...missed another Long entry at 832.10 with the same profit target of anything above 834.90 | 11:08 |
| I'm still up nicely for the day but the missed opportunities today would have almost doubled my profits. | 11:09 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_away |
<intowin> | shorts ES @ 1504.00 stop at 1505.75 | 11:12 |
<venedom> | Long ER2 @ 833.30 |
<intowin> | stop hit 1505.75 - 1.75 | 11:15 |
<venedom> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 835 --> + 1.7 | 11:16 |
<jperl> | ER2 peak volume price now at 833.50 | 11:17 |
| VWAP well below that @ 830.31 |
<pat255> | jper what doea that emn in terms of trading & setups? |
| mean |
<jperl> | depends on whether you are a newbie or a seasoned trader.... | 11:18 |
| for newbies..... |
| look for a short trade below the Peak volume price |
| market should revert back to the VWAP | 11:19 |
<pat255> | ty jper | 11:20 |
<jperl> | For seasoned traders.... |
| lots of possibilities in here |
<pat255> | k go on ..:) |
<jperl> | both shorts and longs |
<RussellDaytrade> | bear in mind that vwap will still be rising, evn if and as price may drop into it | 11:21 |
<jperl> | possible shorts back to PVP |
| If market touches PVP.... | 11:22 |
| possible bounce to the long side off of it |
| Then there are the bounces off the various StdDEvs |
| 1st STdDEv approaching PVP....should be a good bounce there | 11:23 |
| and yes RD..... |
| VWAP is rising |
<eminitrader> | k i'm back for a while | 11:29 |
| got my tenner :)) | 11:30 |
| Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1506.75 --> + 10 |
| late post |
<intowin> | noticed that E very nice |
<eminitrader> | thx itw |
<RussellDaytrade> | since rice adavanced to new high from prior highs downtargets, downtrgets have accordingly reset higher |
| well done EM! | 11:31 |
<Brutus> | vn e :) |
<eminitrader> | thx RD. B |
| looks like a retrace from 40% fib of yest move | 11:32 |
<RussellDaytrade> | and that is if they occur at all, which with the mkt fairly oversold may have an increasing odds they will not, and instead just keep pressing higher, without fulfilling full downtargets, etc...great indicators, that mkt is altering trend | 11:34 |
<eminitrader> | shld see a bounce from todays low.....and i think thats when we will see the real selling on this bounce...if this low breks think we r in for a correction big time | 11:36 |
<jperl> | ER2 took the bounce off of the PVP |
| If you were quick on the draw you could have pulled at least 5 ticks | 11:37 |
<eminitrader> | no i mean a much larger bounce than this ...abt 30-40 pts more from current levels on the ES |
<jperl> | bounces are fun to play | 11:38 |
<RussellDaytrade> | I agree with the correction outlook, I htink we have already into a correction, and the correct trade is to short. but we since the mkt is somewhat oversold already, am finding it challenging shorting it, as I sense it may rise dramatically on any bit or glimmer of 'good news' even if it's fabricated good news)... |
| heaven knows ther's enuf bad news to go around that warrants lower prices. | 11:39 |
<eminitrader> | prolly the fed min will set it up |
<RussellDaytrade> | yes, the investment bankers already have a call in to benb, to gaff the shorts so they can offload some inventory, and reload on the short side. :) | 11:43 |
| alright JP, I give up...what's PUP? something upper price? | 11:44 |
<jperl> | PVP= peak volume price |
<RussellDaytrade> | I must need glasses, (thats another story), looked like a U...thx | 11:45 |
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<jperl> | just above this price action for ER2, there are 2 VWAPs.... | 12:25 |
| 2 day VWAP @ 836.38 |
| 2 month VWAP @ 836.57 |
<RussellDaytrade> | both of them vwaps in a dntrend? | 12:26 |
<jperl> | they are rather static RD | 12:27 |
<RussellDaytrade> | let me phrase it differntly...anything in them vwaps sugest that price may turn down about now? :) | 12:28 |
<jperl> | no |
<RussellDaytrade> | ps, I'm short again |
| lookin for 831.6 on this move...by 11:05 or so | 12:29 |
| that target above is off the table with this higher high | 12:43 |
* NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 13:00 |
<ItalianSharp> | i am wondering what's making ER2 so bullish... | 13:17 |
| while other eminis had their retracements, ER2 never really retraced |
<RussellDaytrade> | perhaps that is about to change | 13:21 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 836.80 -> small size | 13:23 |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 836.90 --> + 0.1 | 13:26 |
<ItalianSharp> | niha, why do you think ER2 has been so bullish today? | 13:28 |
<pat255> | IS prolly in front of fomc & eom | 13:31 |
| but niha is more accurate on this |
<ItalianSharp> | pat...maybe you are right...that's the only thing i can think of | 13:32 |
<NihabaAshi> | I think its FOMC related especially since ER2 reached that s/r zone where a prior key change in supply/demand had occurred that's also related to the FED. |
<ItalianSharp> | exactly niha...i am surprised ER2 went that high today |
<Brutus> | Thursday, June 28, 2007 | 13:33 |
| ET/GMT Expected Previous |
| 0830/1230 Jun 23 Jobless Claims -9K +10K |
| 0830/1230 1Q GDP, final +0.8% +0.6% |
| 1100/1500 Jun Kansas City Fed Mfg Index 20 |
| 1415 Two-Day FOMC meeting continues; |
| interest rate decision expected 2:15 |
| p.m. EDT Thursday |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 835.70 -> small size | 13:37 |
| After I close this trade I go to 1 contract only for the remainder of the trading day. |
<RussellDaytrade> | closed short |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 13:38 |
<NihabaAshi> | weak support here but stronger support further below around 835.10 | 13:41 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 836.00 -> Add | 13:43 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 836.60 --> - 1.5 | 13:45 |
| Long ER2 @ 837.10 -> small size | 13:50 |
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<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 837.40 --> + 0.3 | 13:55 |
| Long ER2 @ 837.70 -> small size | 14:00 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 839.00 --> + 1.3 | 14:02 |
<pat255> | nice catch Niha |
<NihabaAshi> | I don't do too many "breakout" trades but that was one of them when ER2 did a WRB breakout above a key s/r zone | 14:04 |
<pdays> | Shorts ER2 @ 842.0 | 14:32 |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ 841.90 | 14:41 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 842.00 -> small size | 14:43 |
<werner> | gn all | 14:44 |
<venedom> | upps the M is against lo | 14:45 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 842.30 --> + 0.3 | 14:46 |
<venedom> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 842.3 --> - 0.4 | 14:47 |
<pat255> | too dangerous here either way ...looks like squeeze more |
<pdays> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 843.0 --> - 1 | 14:48 |
<pat255> | em had the right setup this am... | 14:50 |
<venedom> | Long ER2 @ 842.60 | 14:52 |
<RussellDaytrade> | earlier profits today have now become losses, bound to happen on occassion, trend days are a challenge for me...every business proposition contains a small particle of risk, so be it | 14:54 |
<venedom> | Long ER2 @ 842.40 -> Add |
| Exited all ER2 Long @ 842.40 --> + 842.40 - 842.60 + 842.40 - 842.40 | 14:55 |
| it was out no add |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 844.10 -> small size | 15:33 |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 844.40 --> + 0.3 | 15:35 |
<jperl> | todays P/L here.... | 15:42 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-27/JP ERL_0123.png |
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<Awash> | Jperl | 15:52 |
| do i need to have any specific plug-ins to view the file | 15:53 |
| ? |
<jperl> | you should just be able to click on it and should pop up.... |
<Awash> | it doesn't |
<jperl> | what happens | 15:54 |
<Awash> | Plug in error message |
| was this created with quicktime software |
<jperl> | no, but that's your problem....install quicktime and you should then see it | 15:55 |
<Awash> | that's the problem, i have quicktime |
| but it still doesn't work |
| it's just a png file |
| right? |
<jperl> | yes |
<Awash> | it should be easy than | 15:56 |
| i'll try and figure it out |
<jperl> | try loading it directly into quicktime by going to the dacharts.com |
| archive |
<Awash> | would it be an inconvenience in the future to just save it as a gif or jpeg file? Just curious don't inconvenience yourself |
<NihabaAshi> | What files are you guys talking about? | 15:58 |
<Awash> | http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-27/JP ERL_0123.png |
| for some reason I can't view it, plug in errror |
<NihabaAshi> | .png is a standardized image...it should just pop up when you click on it. | 15:59 |
<jperl> | try this one Awash... |
| its jpeg.... |
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<jperl> | http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-06-27/JP ERL_0124.jpg |
<NihabaAshi> | You have Windows XP or what is your default image viewer. |
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<Awash> | Windows, Photo Editor, Niha | 16:00 |
| got it jperl, |
<NihabaAshi> | Ok...the error is in Photo Editor. |
<Awash> | i can view jpegs easily |
<jperl> | ok...I'll post them as jpegs then |
<Awash> | thanks |
| Niha, this maybe a software issues | 16:01 |
| issue |
| because i can link to certain websites and still have this problem |
<NihabaAshi> | I had the same problem with .png images on my older computer. |
<jperl> | try reinstalling quicktime |
<NihabaAshi> | I did an update and it went away. |
<RussellDaytrade> | wire-to-wire buying, just put it on cruise control |
<Awash> | i'll try that again but i reinstall before | 16:02 |
| still no fix |
<RussellDaytrade> | finished day short 5, down about 2k in that acct, closed shorts in other acts near b/e, glad I did | 16:04 |
<NihabaAshi> | Awash...do you have problems viewing images at my website ? |
| http://www.thestrategylab.com/062207Futu resTrades.htm | 16:05 |
<Awash> | let me double check |
<NihabaAshi> | What happens when you click on my Friday's profit/loss statement on the right side at that link? |
<Awash> | no |
<NihabaAshi> | It's a .png image |
| Ok...if you don't have problmes seeing my images than you have some sort'uv error in the Photo Editor software when clicking on images as a download. | 16:06 |
<Awash> | i see Xtrader image |
| really? |
<NihabaAshi> | I remember having the the same problem and played around with it before it went away. |
<Awash> | okay |
| i'll look at the properties section | 16:07 |
<NihabaAshi> | I do remember changing my default image viewer to something else. |
| By the way...I'll get the chat logs updated by tonight at 9pm est. | 16:08 |
<Awash> | take your time |
<NihabaAshi> | In fact, I'm doing them right now because I'm missing Monday and Tuesday's logs. |
<Awash> | i'm around during the summer |
| but i read them periodically when i'm teaching school |
<NihabaAshi> | Take care all and see all tomorrow for the big trading day (FOMC Annoucment) which is usually one of my best trading days. | 16:25 |
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