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| Session Start: Tue Jun 10 00:00:00 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 01:46 |
| * NihabaAshi_away | is now known as NihabaAshi | 07:43 |
| <+tzar> | hi | 07:45 |
| NihabaAshi gm |
| <@NihabaAshi> | I've open up the room for speech now :) | 07:46 |
| <Flex> | morning | 07:47 |
| <+Flex> | thanks |
| <+tzar> | gm NihabaAshi |
| how come you close it up |
| gm Flex |
| <anglo> | he who sells what isn' hisn', must buy it back or go to prisn' |
| <+Flex> | setting up the "moderated" tag, as operator |
| <@NihabaAshi> | tzar...testing a new "devoice" script |
| <+tzar> | ah i see | 07:48 |
| gm rickf | 07:49 |
| <rickf> | gm al |
| <+rickf> | all |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 08:01 |
| <+rickf> | long euro fut 155.14 paper (late post) | 08:04 |
| exit euro fut 155.20 paper + 6 ticks | 08:05 |
| paper |
| balance of trade report 830ET | 08:28 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Another big GAP down day at the open | 08:46 |
| Be back later...gotta reboot to see if my scripts are working properly | 08:47 |
| <+tzar> | gm KN-ES | 08:48 |
| <KN-ES> | gm |
| <+Flex> | hallo |
| <+tzar> | do we try to close the gap today? |
| or straight down? |
| <+KN-ES> | hello Flex |
| i have a open short order......looking for 42.50 | 08:49 |
| brb | 08:52 |
| <+rickf> | shorted dax 6757.5 paper (late) | 08:54 |
| exit dax 6751.5 paper +6 paper |
| back later | 08:55 |
| <+Flex> | USDCAD | 09:03 |
| <ItalianSharp> | morning all |
| <+Flex> | ciao |
| <futurible> | gm all | 09:14 |
| <+Flex> | Hi |
| <nqcruiser> | simon r u here |
| <pat255> | gm allSession Close: Tue Jun 10 09:19:54 2008 | 09:15 |
| | Session Start: Tue Jun 10 09:19:54 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
| * DisconnectedSession | Close: Tue Jun 10 09:19:54 2008 | 09:19 |
| | Session Start: Tue Jun 10 09:30:52 2008Session Ident: #futurestrades |
| * Now | talking in #futurestrades | 09:30 |
| <@X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
| <drt> | gm | 09:32 |
| <ripsboy> | gm all... | 09:33 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | sneaky price action...very sneaky | 09:35 |
| Bernanke speaking today ??? | 09:36 |
| <PapaJon> | yes | 09:37 |
| <werner> | gm all |
| <+PapaJon> | Ben Bernanke Speaks! Tuesday - Jun 10, 2008 | 09:38 |
| or are they just refering to yesterdays comments??? |
| <lumenPharmer> | i think they are last nights comments | 09:39 |
| <+PapaJon> | reading them now.. kinda looks that way | 09:40 |
| <+tzar> | Shorts NQ @ 1960 | 09:41 |
| Covered all NQ Short @ 1965 --> - 5 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 729.30 -> medium size | 09:42 |
| intuition only |
| Back within that sneak price action area | 09:43 |
| <HK> | Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 729.3 --> + 8.1 «« paper »» | 09:44 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Pin Ball Machine |
| <szubaark> | also no 10am reports to help with Volatility | 09:45 |
| <+nqcruiser> | days like this one needs to go golfing | 09:46 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 728.80 --> + 0.5 | 09:47 |
| <+nqcruiser> | long es - TOC |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Had to take that WRB pt1 because that pin ball machine price action can show up anytime to take a winner into a loser very fast |
| <+pat255> | yes especially this er beast.. | 09:48 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 730.50 -> small size |
| <+HK> | Covered 1/3 ER2 Short @ 732.3 --> + 3.1 «« paper »» | 09:51 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 731.30 --> + 0.8 | 09:54 |
| <+nqcruiser> | exit Es long | 09:55 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 730.00 -> medium size | 09:56 |
| Geeesh...this thing reversed fast...too fast for me... |
| <+szubaark> | Shorts ES @ 1353 «« paper »» | 09:57 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | I was looking at an intuition trade @ 731.10 and couldn't get it... |
| :( |
| Looking for a Houdini Escape | 09:58 |
| <Splurge> | I find myself just watching here | 09:59 |
| <+Splurge> | had some signals but dont trust any yet |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 730.00 --> 0 |
| <+tzar> | nice exit NihabaAshi | 10:00 |
| <+Splurge> | wd |
| <+nqcruiser> | long es |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Got greedy...tried to grab 3 ticks...couldn't get it :( |
| <+nqcruiser> | tzar lol |
| <+tzar> | lol it is nice |
| i usualy either +-1 tick |
| never 0 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Yeah...I rarely get breakevens | 10:01 |
| It's either a loss or a profit...rarely a breakeven |
| <+tzar> | NihabaAshi whats a houdini escape? | 10:02 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Means I screwed up something big time with my entry that should result in a losing trade. |
| However, if I "escape" out of the trade at a profit... |
| I consider it a escape like the famous magician Harry Houdini | 10:03 |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm | 10:04 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | It
can also mean that I'm too slow for the price action and I got lucky to
get out with a profit after it bounce fast against into a losing open
position |
| <+nqcruiser> | i am coughing heavily today | 10:08 |
| and reduce to taking price direction off "toss of coin" |
| rather than normal str/wrb/apaor rules |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1355.50 --> - 2.5 «« paper »» | 10:11 |
| Buys ES @ 1355.50 «« paper »» |
| Volatility spike | 10:13 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 733.30 -> small size | 10:14 |
| intuition |
| Other key markets showing strength again |
| <+szubaark> | Hopefully Ill catch a WRB PT2 | 10:15 |
| exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1355.50 «« paper »» |
| Exited all Long ES at 1360.50 --> + 5 «« paper »» | 10:17 |
| <+nqcruiser> | what volume charts do u guys use on DAX |
| will 250vol be ok |
| <+HK> | Covered ER2 Short @ 734 --> + 1.4 «« paper »» |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 734 «« paper »» |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 734.70 --> + 1.4 | 10:18 |
| <+pat255> | vn N |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Just jumped on the band wagon after it broke through that resistance area while the volatility was still present | 10:19 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 733.50 -> medium size | 10:21 |
| Darn weak dark hammer line trying to be a hero and give ER2 some support :( | 10:23 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 733.40 --> + 0.1 | 10:25 |
| Hammer line punks :( | 10:26 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 732.80 -> medium size | 10:28 |
| Pin Ball Machine... |
| Too fast for me again :( | 10:29 |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1360 «« paper »» |
| Exited all Long ES at 1358.75 --> - 1.25 «« paper »» | 10:30 |
| Shorts ES @ 1358.75 «« paper »» | 10:31 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | A white hammer line a few intervals ago is now trying to be a hero and provide support for ER2 :( | 10:32 |
| <+szubaark> | whipsaws back and forth | 10:33 |
| <+Splurge> | what timeframe Niha? |
| ah got it | 10:34 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | 1min and 2min have a hammer line trying to play the hero role to keep this from dropping like a rock. | 10:35 |
| <+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1358.75 «« paper »» |
| <@NihabaAshi> | They shook me out once on a prior Short... |
| I'm still here on the second Short :) |
| <+szubaark> | Volatility spike, hopefully it wont get retraced in a whipsaw | 10:36 |
| <+HK> | Long ER2 @ 732.9 -> Add «« paper »» |
| Long ER2 @ 731.7 -> Add «« paper »» | 10:37 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | No hammer lines developing so far... | 10:38 |
| Hopes are high for an exit at a lower price | 10:39 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 732.70 --> + 0.1 |
| :( |
| <+szubaark> | some just showed up :( |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Yeah...it moved fast after the Hammer...too fast |
| <+szubaark> | Covered all Short ES at 1356.50 --> + 2.25 «« paper »» | 10:41 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 732.40 -> medium size | 10:42 |
| My Short entries are like Lower Highs and all I'm catching are +0.1 tick profits after a wicked retracement back upwards :( |
| <+szubaark> | more hammer lines forming :( | 10:43 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | 733.50 ---> 732.80 ---> 732.40 | 10:44 |
| * [1]kitchen | is now known as kitchen | 10:46 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 733.30 --> - 0.9 | 10:47 |
| <Awash> | good morning all | 10:49 |
| <+tzar> | heya Awash |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 732.70 -> medium size | 10:53 |
| <Brutus_> | hi awash |
| <+Awash> | howdy |
| <+rickf> | bak | 10:55 |
| <+tzar> | that was a long brb rickf |
| <+rickf> | tennis does that to me |
| <+tzar> | i like tenis |
| i suck at it and using an antique racket | 10:56 |
| but i still like it |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Unbelievable this price action right now | 10:57 |
| Hammer shows up again to take away my WRB pt1 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 732.60 --> + 0.1 | 10:58 |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1357.75 «« paper »» |
| <+Flex> | why did you enter right after wrb ? |
| <@NihabaAshi> | I entered before a WRB | 10:59 |
| <+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1357.75 «« paper »» |
| Exited all Long ES at 1357.75 --> 0 «« paper »» |
| more pinball :( | 11:00 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Yep...as expected and discussed earlier |
| I'm
expecting this price action to continue for the remainder of the
trading day unless some new market news events shakes things up. | 11:01 |
| <+HK> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 734.7 --> + 3.7 «« paper »» |
| * szubaark | is now known as szubaark_away | 11:02 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Their just dragnetting this tight range...catching everything within the net | 11:05 |
| Long ER2 @ 731.70 -> medium size | 11:06 |
| hammer line |
| Their dragnetting the range again | 11:13 |
| Hammers showed up again | 11:24 |
| Another hammer line | 11:29 |
| <+rickf> | short es 1355.75 paper | 11:30 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | weak support area ER2 |
| <+rickf> | exit 56.75 -1 paper | 11:32 |
| short es 1355.75 paper | 11:33 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 730.80 --> - 0.9 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 730.80 -> medium size | 11:34 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 729.20 --> + 1.6 | 11:39 |
| <+pat255> | vn |
| <@NihabaAshi> | It's not an easy trading day but I am only 1 point away from my profit goal for the day. | 11:40 |
| <+pat255> | yup pin ball action ... | 11:41 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Always tough trading when the range is stuck between yesterday's afternoon trading session range. |
| * codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 11:45 |
| <+tzar> | where is oil at , anyone? | 11:48 |
| <+rickf> | 134.8 |
| <silo> | Long ER2 @ 732.20 «« paper »» |
| <+tzar> | thanks |
| <+rickf> | and falling ...133.65 | 11:50 |
| <+silo> | Exited ER2 Long @ 731 --> - 1.2 «« paper »» | 11:52 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 731 «« paper »» |
| <+rickf> | short dax 6789.5 paper | 11:57 |
| exit 1/2 dax 6783 +6.5 paper | 11:58 |
| <+tzar> | thats fast rickf | 11:59 |
| <+rickf> | that's dax for ya |
| <+tzar> | thats 150$ |
| per car |
| <startrader> | Long ES @ 1968 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | My spouse complained yesterday that she almost lost our 1 1/2 year old in the tall grass in the back yard yesterday. | 12:00 |
| <+rickf> | lol |
| <@NihabaAshi> | We had to send the 5 year old on a rescue mission. |
| Simply, as soon as I get my profit goal for the day... |
| <+pat255> | lol .... |
| <+silo> | time to go regulate the jungle? |
| <@NihabaAshi> | I'm done trading so that I can go cut the grass before I get in trouble. |
| <+silo> | how far are you from target | 12:01 |
| <+rickf> | exit remainder dax 6787 +2.5 paper |
| <+startrader> | Long ES @ 1967.25 -> Add |
| * szubaark_away | is now known as szubaark | 12:02 |
| <+startrader> | Exited all ES Long @ 1965.25 --> - 4.75 | 12:03 |
| Long ES @ 1966 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 729.70 -> small size | 12:04 |
| 2 only |
| <+startrader> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1968.75 --> + 2.75 | 12:05 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 730.60 --> - 0.9 | 12:07 |
| <@X> | #FuturesTrades Info ->
No gurus, no head traders. Members use this room to document (trade
journal) their trades and thoughts from one trade to the next trade
because it provides critical information they can't get from broker
statements nor statistics. Also, mimicking the trades by others is not
recommended without their permission. More info at
www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChat Room.htm |
| <+szubaark> | Buys ES @ 1358.25 «« paper »» |
| <+silo> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 731 --> 0 «« paper »» |
| <+startrader> | Exited Remainder ES Long @ 1970.25 --> + 4.25 | 12:08 |
| <+tzar> | startrader | 12:09 |
| i think you mean NQ not ES | 12:10 |
| <+startrader> | your right, did not change setting today, ty. |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 731.00 -> small size |
| 2 only |
| <+szubaark> | exit stop moved to breakeven ES @ 1358.25 «« paper »» | 12:11 |
| <+startrader> | oil trying to take out low. | 12:12 |
| <+Splurge> | wish it would :/ | 12:15 |
| <+startrader> | strong reversal on oil at 38% could rally and push down equities. |
| <@NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 732.60 --> + 1.6 | 12:18 |
| <+startrader> | funny how they are playing this out over lucng. |
| lunch |
| <+szubaark> | Exited all Long ES at 1360 --> + 1.75 «« paper »» | 12:19 |
| <+silo> | Long ER2 @ 732.30 -> medium size «« paper »» | 12:20 |
| <+startrader> | No
one complained when speculator drove up housing or equity prices in
their respective surges, what's the problem with doing it to oil? |
| <+silo> | Long ER2 @ 733.20 -> Add «« paper »» | 12:23 |
| <@NihabaAshi> | speculator...true. |
| However, most see Oil like they see goods sold at the grocery store. | 12:24 |
| <+silo> | they were talking about a probe into energy manipulations a fweek ago |
| <@NihabaAshi> | When oil hits 2.50 per liter here in Canada (currently at 1.81 per liter)... | 12:26 |
| I told spouse we are getting some Mopeds |
| <+tzar> | 1.81 really? | 12:28 |
| its 1.31 in toronto |
| <@NihabaAshi> | You guys stealing our gas :) | 12:29 |
| <+tzar> | lol |
| <+rickf> | hey we like oil sands :) |
| <@NihabaAshi> | This provincial hatred has got to stop :) |
| <+tzar> | haha |
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